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I was wondering, what's the ruling on banning inactive nations from a region? Following the ban would be an immediate reinstatement, and the banning would take place with the support of the founder. Thanks.

I was wondering, what's the ruling on banning inactive nations from a region? Following the ban would be an immediate reinstatement, and the banning would take place with the support of the founder. Thanks.

The founder can ban whomever s/he pleases for whatever reason without warning.

If the Founder supports the action, have the Founder do it.

yeah but i think kicking out inactive nations completly or at least indefinatly

OK two scenarios.

1. What if the founding nation was recently deleted and one of their puppets asks like the UN rep to do it?

2. What if there is no founder?

OK two scenarios.

1. What if the founding nation was recently deleted and one of their puppets asks like the UN rep to do it?

2. What if there is no founder?

Why bother to eject inactives? What if the founder holds a secret grouch against the UN Rep, and schemes him/her into grieving the region, in order to have the UN Rep deleted? On all accounts, a delegate is not allowed to eject many nations. Be careful what you get into. A founder can eject as many as s/he wishes, and asking a delegate to do it, smells fishy to me :gundge:

A puppet of the founder, is no founder. Only the founder is founder :p

True. OK, here's the two situations.

1. NationA, the founder, was deleted. In order to recreate RegionA with himself as founder, he needs to move everyone out. Once all the active members are gone, there will just be inactive nations in the region. If the UN Rep boots those inactive regions to clear the region, will they get deleted? UN Rep does have the support of NationA.

2. In order to keep the activity level high in RegionB, UN Rep NationB would like to boot any nation's inactive for 15+ days with no notice of vacation. There is no founder in the region.

No and no

I think if a nation is alive it is considered active. People who lose interest will let thier nations die. Hence if it is still alive the owner of that nation wants it to be.

So I object to evicting "in"active nations, unless you are the founder.

True. OK, here's the two situations.

1. NationA, the founder, was deleted. In order to recreate RegionA with himself as founder, he needs to move everyone out. Once all the active members are gone, there will just be inactive nations in the region. If the UN Rep boots those inactive regions to clear the region, will they get deleted? UN Rep does have the support of NationA.

A deleted founder nation means there is no founder. Foundership is something a nation has, not a player. So, RegionA has no founder and the player who used to control NationA is not recognized by the rules or game-engine as having any authority over RegionA whatsoever.

So, you're left with the standard rules: if the delegate is not internally elected, doing as you suggest would be a clear-cut case of griefing.
If the delegate is internally elected, it may eject a good portion of the region, but not even close to all nations. A unofficial rule of thumb that gets thrown around a lot is 40%, but one does well to stay clear of that number. There's a large grey area, left to moderator discretion.

2. In order to keep the activity level high in RegionB, UN Rep NationB would like to boot any nation's inactive for 15+ days with no notice of vacation. There is no founder in the region.

NS Rules do not state exceptions for inactivity. A native is a native, even if 58 days idle. Basically, see the answer above because it's the same thing ;)

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Thank you all for your interpretations. We'll take all this into consideration before acting.

Thank you all for your interpretations. We'll take all this into consideration before acting.

And we'll keep an eye on you, when acting :P

A deleted founder nation means there is no founder. Foundership is something a nation has, not a player. So, RegionA has no founder and the player who used to control NationA is not recognized by the rules or game-engine as having any authority over RegionA whatsoever.

So, you're left with the standard rules: if the delegate is not internally elected, doing as you suggest would be a clear-cut case of griefing.
If the delegate is internally elected, it may eject a good portion of the region, but not even close to all nations. A unofficial rule of thumb that gets thrown around a lot is 40%, but one does well to stay clear of that number. There's a large grey area, left to moderator discretion.



NS Rules do not state exceptions for inactivity. A native is a native, even if 58 days idle. Basically, see the answer above because it's the same thing ;)
Correct on all counts.

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And we'll keep an eye on you, when acting :P

No, really, you don't have to. We don't want to take up anymore of your valuable time.