NationStates Jolt Archive

Long story short, there's a bit of debate in the North Pacific as to whether the UN Delegate should voluntarily tell his/her password to a few trusted nations after Magicality, our former UN delegate, was taken ill and was inactive as a delegate thereafter.

However, could you answer the following questions raised by Otm Shanks? I admit I have little clue as to the answers:
The legal implications of the password system deserve some consideration.

Say that, by some oversight, the delegate gives his password to a nation that turns out to be a long-term NPO infiltrator. The infiltrator comes in, changes the password and email, and starts booting people.

Does that count as "nation-hacking"? Is password sharing even legal?

And what happens if someone logs in as the delegate when they already have a UN nation?

Would both nations be counted as UN-multies? Even if it only happened once?

My guess is they would both immeadiatly be registered as Multies and Banned.
Whoever is asking for your Delegates Password is simply trying to steal the delegacy seat and should probably recieve a deletion .
There is no reason to give anyone your Password.

Couldn't you only PW share with a non UN? The IP numbers would match up otherwise...

Well I think you're supposed to keep your password to yourself. I mean, if you freely give your password out, then you're basically allowing that other person to access your nation. Since no one forcefully "hacked," I don't know if you could actually concider it nation hacking. The mods say this about auto-login - do it at your own risk because they can't help you if your password falls into the wrong hands.

I'm pretty sure they would show up on the multi scan and get ejected from the UN even though it was only one time.

Couldn't you only PW share with a non UN? The IP numbers would match up otherwise...
You could have it so that, in times of emergency, someone could resign their nation to take contol of the delegate

My guess is they would both immeadiatly be registered as Multies and Banned.
Whoever is asking for your Delegates Password is simply trying to steal the delegacy seat and should probably recieve a deletion .
There is no reason to give anyone your Password.
You misunderstand, Loop. The debate is about sharing the password among trusted nations to be used in times of crisis, not give it out willy-nilly to anyone who asks!

Yes, it may be used in "crisis times," but, as one suggested earlier; it's easy to trust someone on this game based on "appearances," you don't know their true motives.

I eagerly await a mod response, hoping this is deemed illegal.

Yes, it may be used in "crisis times," but, as one suggested earlier; it's easy to trust someone on this game based on "appearances," you don't know their true motives.

I eagerly await a mod response, hoping this is deemed illegal.
...hence the original post concerning 'infiltrators' and the like. In fairness, it is the delegates choice, and thus the consequences are his responsibility.

Pasword sharing is not illegal, as long as it has been given in good consent. I know for fact that many founders and delegates have shared ownership. I see nothing wrong in it, as long as any of the "owners" anen't in the UN also. If one of the "owners" give the password to an enemy, that is a risk they take. Even that is not illegal. As long as that "enemy" didn't got the password by hacking and stuff. There is also a risk that an "owner" changes the e-mail to his/her own on the nation, and than claims a new password. That is theoretically possible. I don't know about the rules, but the mods can easily see if a nation has been shared, but I don't know if a new "owner" who singlehandidly decides not to share it anymore, by changing the password, gets punished.

In answer to your questions:

-Password sharing is not explicity against the rules, as trying to enforce it would be a waste of time. Share your password at your own risk.
-If, say, an NPO infiltrator was given the password, and then proceeds to hijack the nation and start booting people, they might get nailed for griefing if they ejected most/all of the people in the region all at once, but otherwise the mods wouldn't be able to help. As stated above- you share a nation's password at your own risk.
-In answer to Erastide's question- if another UN player logged in to the delegate nation, yes, it would show on our cheat scan as multies. If there's just one hit though, most of the time the mods will assume it a fluke. However, if a bunch of UN nations all logged into the delegate nation, it our cheat scan would show all those hits, making everyone involved look very much like a ring of UN multies, which would likely then result in said nations getting booted from the UN.

In short, sharing a password is not against the rules, but it's extremely ill-advised.

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