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Fiction: as new UN delegate, i have been griefing North Pacific by booting innumerable natives

Fact:

I have booted only 3 natives (I'm allowed to boot 10% of the region or 20 nations). All 3 natives received the pword and were unbanned, although I admit I didn't know I had to unban them immediately.

Fact:

I have booted 20 invaders from The North Pacific.

Fiction: as new UN delegate, I have been UN Multying.

Fact: I do not use multis, and at the moment it looks like the mods have been removing more natives from the region than I have. It also looks like the mods are deleting only the UN natives that endorsed me.

Fact: the method used to liberate the region was legal and backed by [Violet]. Something to bear in mind all those who keep trying to cause confusion by claiming we multied.

so you're saying that the game's top moderator decided to pick a side in the game...

im appealing the decision on the grounds of equity. i dont have the time to sit by the computer and argue all day so that will be my input on the matter.

Fact: the method used to liberate the region was legal and backed by [Violet]. Something to bear in mind all those who keep trying to cause confusion by claiming we multied.

Hypothesis: you're confusing "North Pacific" with "The North Pacific" ;)

Ballotonia

First, the region under discussion is "North Pacific", not to be confused with "The North Pacific". Please surround all nation and region names with quotation marks to avoid confusion.

Second, I alerted "Evoyyep" that he was in violation of invasion rules by permanently banning natives. He has since rectified this.

Third, another Moderator ran a UN multi scan and detected that "Evoyyep" was a UN multi with "Doxa" and ejected both nations.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Fact: the method used to liberate the region was legal and backed by [Violet]. Something to bear in mind all those who keep trying to cause confusion by claiming we multied.
The.

I dont know Doxa. He is not a puppet or a UN multi. this is one big, horrible mistake

I dont know Doxa. He is not a puppet or a UN multi. this is one big, horrible mistake

The UN multi scan doesn't tend to make mistakes. That is, after all, its purpose.

The UN multi scan doesn't tend to make mistakes. That is, after all, its purpose.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's kindof a logical fallacy.

The UN multi scan doesn't make mistakes
How do you know?
Cos of the UN multis it has ejected in the past
How do you know that they were multis?
Cos the UN multi scan told us they were.
Well, how do you know it didn't make a mistake?
The UN multi scan doesn't make mistakes

Rinse and repeat

well, i dont understand what happened and even if i get un back, my delegateship in north pacific has been toobed. thanks.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's kindof a logical fallacy.

The UN multi scan doesn't make mistakes
How do you know?
Cos of the UN multis it has ejected in the past
How do you know that they were multis?
Cos the UN multi scan told us they were.
Well, how do you know it didn't make a mistake?
The UN multi scan doesn't make mistakes

Rinse and repeat

That is, of course, assuming that you're right. How do you know I don't know how and why it doesn't tend to make mistakes? I can think of at least three very solid ways to prove more than one account is on a single computer, only one of which is the computer's IP address, one of the others being something the mods have nearly said outright they use.

Besides, just because it's circular doesn't make it wrong. :)

well, i dont understand what happened and even if i get un back, my delegateship in north pacific has been toobed. thanks.

well it would have anyway, unless you planed to ejected every UN nation that resisted, because I doubt nations that have lived in NP much longer then your nation have even existed would accept you, it might have taken more time, but we took back the power from those trying to hurt us before you and we would have done the same to you and your friends.

I only booted 3 natives. I could have legally kicked out 18 (10%). We set up a pword after I informed all natives what it was. I kicked out 17 invaders from TNP. To protect the region. At that point, I could have booted the entire region if I truly had it in for the region. Instead, I booted no one else. Think about it - was that really such an abuse of authority? Rhetorical question - the answer is no.

I only booted 3 natives. I could have legally kicked out 18 (10%). We set up a pword after I informed all natives what it was. I kicked out 17 invaders from TNP. To protect the region. At that point, I could have booted the entire region if I truly had it in for the region. Instead, I booted no one else. Think about it - was that really such an abuse of authority? Rhetorical question - the answer is no.

I sincerely suggest you re-read the rules. Booting the entire region is only a legal option for a Founder. That 10% you state is not a formal rule. You do not distinguish between ejecting and banning when you say 'kicked'. It's a very important difference.

Ballotonia

I only booted 3 natives. I could have legally kicked out 18 (10%). We set up a pword after I informed all natives what it was. I kicked out 17 invaders from TNP. To protect the region. At that point, I could have booted the entire region if I truly had it in for the region. Instead, I booted no one else. Think about it - was that really such an abuse of authority? Rhetorical question - the answer is no.
Considering the fact that you weren't ejected for griefing, I fail to see the relevance of this.

Evoyyep have you still not understand that you where, my moderator definitions an invader, and that you actually DID brake NS rules, you banned three natives and waited almost an entire day before unbanning them, and you did that because the mods warned you.

Evoyyep have you still not understand that you where, my moderator definitions an invader, and that you actually DID brake NS rules, you banned three natives and waited almost an entire day before unbanning them, and you did that because the mods warned you.
He wasn't ejected for griefing. He was ejected for UN multying.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

He wasn't ejected for griefing. He was ejected for UN multying.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Thus, he still might be a native, but I think that being a multy is enough reason to ban him permanently, or aren't delegates allowed to punish people for braking game rules?

He wasn't ejected for griefing. He was ejected for UN multying.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

I never said he griefed, I said he banned natives, and after what I know he was warned for doing that, I believe it was you who posted in NPs regional HQ warning him for banning natives.
Now he might have been ejected for something else, but the fact that he was warned means he was not a native delegate (because as I understand they are allowed to ban natives.

http://nsnational.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=art&action=display&num=1091387875

http://nsnational.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=art&action=display&num=1091387875

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