Whittier-
27-07-2004, 06:05
To the Honorable Mods:
I know the chances of getting my nation back are practically nil.
But I am doing this as a matter of principal.
Due to what I saw in thread I looked up.
Due to a thread I saw, I have begun collecting evidence.
Here it is for you puruse.
The only thread where I was warned:
Note that it was not a formal warning:
Note the flaming just cause I had a bout of patriotism.
This particular thread shows that I was considered a troll just
because I said athiests forced their views on people just as much
other religions do.
Stephistan gives me warning but does not warn any of the others, whome
she is in agreement with.
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22-07-2004, 3:24 PM #1
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Americans and Athiesm
According to th US Bureau of the Census:
Less than 1% of Americans are athiest. Interesting as athiest always
force their views on others at gun point.
Americans view the rest of the world as being just plain lazy.
22-07-2004, 3:30 PM #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakartopia
Athiests force their points at gunpoint? When? Where? How? More than
theists?
Theists believe in freedom of religion, atheists do not. Atheists want
to ban all religion. And atheists want to censor all speech they don't
agree with.
22-07-2004, 3:34 PM #8
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Whittier is that why you want God to Bless only America and the rest
of the world to go to hell? Because you are so religious and
compassionate?
nice... well Im not religious, but I am not an atheist either.
so from my non-biased viewpoint I have seen no forcing of beliefs by
atheists and VERY MUCH forcing of beliefs by mainly Christians.
Also I have seen MANY MANY christians say that America is a Christian
nation and the laws shoudl be based on Christian values.
I'm not saying all of them are liek this but much more than any atheist.
22-07-2004, 3:36 PM #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gods Bowels
Whittier is that why you want God to Bless only America and the rest
of the world to go to hell? Because you are so religious and
compassionate?
nice... well Im not religious, but I am not an atheist either.
so from my non-biased viewpoint I have seen no forcing of beliefs by
atheists and VERY MUCH forcing of beliefs by mainly Christians.
Also I have seen MANY MANY christians say that America is a Christian
nation and the laws shoudl be based on Christian values.
I'm not saying all of them are liek this but much more than any atheist.
If our laws weren't based on the christian bible, we would not be rich
as we are economically, nor as powerful militarily.
The rest of the world has atheist governments and they are all poor
and pathetically weak.
22-07-2004, 3:37 PM #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
If our laws weren't based on the christian bible, we would not be rich
as we are economically, nor as powerful militarily.
The rest of the world has atheist governments and they are all poor
and pathetically weak.
You mean like the Atheist government of Iran?
Your world view is utterly retarded.
22-07-2004, 3:41 PM #19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gods Bowels
You must not have been here when it was disproved that the Laws were
based on the Christian bible.
Eitehr that or you chose to ignore it and you are just trollign which
is what it really looks like due to your apparent complete lack of
common sense.
Trolling:
Making a statement that other people don't agree with, and that must
be censored cause others don't agree with it.
22-07-2004, 3:48 PM #27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakartopia
Kinda sounds like your view on everything not American/religious.
If it was not for christian america, the rest of the world would be
Hitler's slave's right now.
22-07-2004, 3:53 PM #32
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Okay, Whittier, you're are coming very close to trolling.. I have
already locked one of your threads for flamebait.. Keep it up and you
will get a formal warning on your nation.
Thank You
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22-07-2004, 4:03 PM #40
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Also the US Supreme Court even said that athiests force their views on
everyone else. That is why it overturned the 9th circuit decision
regarding the pledge of allegiance.
22-07-2004, 4:06 PM #48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakartopia
Athiests force their points at gunpoint? When? Where? How? More than
theists?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
Theists believe in freedom of religion,
Do they?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
atheists do not.
Don't they?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
Atheists want to ban all religion.
Do they?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
And atheists want to censor all speech they don't agree with.
Do they?
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22-07-2004, 4:10 PM #57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
We are still the wealthiest on the planet.
Japan only has the crumbs we throw at them cause we own Japan justlike
we own Europe. And we own Russia too.
You are sick! its that attutude that makes everyone hate america. cant
u see u and yer manifest destiny will bring america down. it will
crumble like the roman empire.
22-07-2004, 4:15 PM #67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
Theists believe in freedom of religion, atheists do not. Atheists want
to ban all religion. And atheists want to censor all speech they don't
agree with.
you are seriosuly retarded.
I am athiest, and I am having religion crammed down my throat 24/7. I
think it's great that people believe in something, unlike me. I don't
care if anyone is ahtiest or not, just as long as they don't cram it
down my throat, which they do most of the time.
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This is thread in the deletion was discussed:
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http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t...hlight=whittier
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23-07-2004, 2:39 AM #3
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He had a temporary bout of patriotism. A serious bout of patriotism.
23-07-2004, 4:13 AM #8
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Stephistan said he had claimed that it wasn't him several times
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So the Whittier Pact goes on without Whittier? How would that work?
I don't remember seeing Whittier claim it was someone else flaming...
I haven't ever seen Whittier flame- but I haven't been here very long...
EDIT- Oh, West Moon is Whittier. Now I get it... *facepalm*
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Quote:
Originally Posted by West Moon
That is not true.
Ah, but it is. Don't you recall the little "Whittier is dead" thread?
I certainly do.
23-07-2004, 6:29 AM #27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Temporary whittier
You said serveral times.
Yes, that did go on for several posts.. different puppets, all coming
from your ip #. You swore that they weren't you either. As for the
formal warning, issued it and then came back to find another thread in
mod about your flaming, that's why you got deleted.
23-07-2004, 6:45 AM #36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Temporary whittier
I saw. One of them was an rp thread. Why was that one locked?
That was the one complained about in mod I believe.. and it was
basically the exact same post you had made in General to get that
thread locked. So, I'm not buying the IC argument either.
I'm done explaining.
Have a nice day!
(note that stephistan said several times. But cited only one example.
That was because there was only one incident. Not the many she that
she had claimed.)
_________________________________________________________________
The thread that supposedly caused my deletion:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...24&page=2&pp=30
the rp thread.
(As you can see, almost everything is rp, except for the one remark my
friend posted.)
_______________________________________________________________
I was thinking that it was odd. Cuase supposedly she issues a formal
warning but deletes my nation less than 5 seconds later.
Cause of an rp thread. So I did some searching to find out just
exactly what was said. I put Whittier into the search engine and
clicked search. And I found some interesting stuff.
This thread for instance:
New Haderan
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America is NOT founded on Christian values.
For all those who have argued against secularism in America by saying
that our Founding Fathers built it upon a Judeo-Christian foundation,
I offer you this:
(A footnote, most of this is intended to be read by Whittier, whose
ceaseless idiocy drove me to have to completely debunk this absurd claim)
22-07-2004, 6:35 PM #2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Berkylvania
Was Whittier saying that nonsense again? Sigh, some people never learn.
I deleted "Whittier"
22-07-2004, 6:47 PM #7
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I deleted "Whittier"
You're my favorite for the next five minutes!
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I deleted "Whittier"
*grovels in reverence and thanks*
22-07-2004, 8:30 PM #55
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Here is MY feeling on the matter. As much as it doesn't make sense to
me, believe all you wish. If you believe in a god, all the freaking
power to you. I am no one to judge you.. and I certainly can't say
there is or isn't because quite frankly NO ONE knows.
But here's the thing, I do have a problem with Religion X.. telling me
how I should or should not think.. I do have a problem with religion X
saying they are right and there is no possible way they're wrong. I am
an atheist. It makes sense to me. However, I do play with the idea I
just might be wrong, I don't think so, but I don't know for sure, no
one does.
If religion X whatever religion is what you wish to believe, hey, I
say go for it.. if it makes you feel better, gives meaning to your
life, whatever your reasons are.. go for it.
What I don't see is a need to convert the rest of us who it doesn't
make sense to. Who cares? I mean you believe , I don't, the world
keeps spinning round, right?
Why should I care what you believe any more then you should care what
I believe? I have many friends and all my family who do believe, I
love them and that's not going to change.. Yet, they don't have a
right to dictate morality to me.. If I'm not hurting any one, who cares?
It's all very silly really.. the whole religious debate.. believe as
you wish and I shall do the same..
It's no biggy
(Clearly, the fact that people didn't agree with my view that athiests
could be just as bad as thiests had something to do with my deletion.)
______________________________________________________________
And now the smoking gun:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colodia
Damn, I was fine with Canada and the whole of Europe until I came here
and discovered stereotyping at its best.
Now I got this HUGE problem with Canada and I have this urge to
conquer Europe.
Hell, now I sing "Blame Canada" at Cross Country workouts all the time.
I don't really care either way about Americans as a whole. I just like
to correct the occasional blatant misinterpretations of history they
occasionally put forward, such as "W3 w0n teh w0r of 1812!!!!!1111" I
also like to correct blatant misinterpretations of history put forward
by fellow Europeans, lest they make me look stupid by association.
I have lots of online friends who are American, and I have nothing
against the country in general. Just idiots like Whittier.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagari
Just idiots like Whittier.
Then you'll be happy to know I deleted him...
found here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...hlight=whittier
(this thread makes it clear I was deleted cause some people on General
did not like my views. Note Stephistan's response to Vagari.)
___________________________________________________________
The facts show that the deletion was clearly politically motivated.
And hence sets a bad precedent.
While I was warned about supposedly trolling, none of the others, who
were clearly flaming the threads recieved any warning. But were
allowed to continue to troll and flame.
The reason for the deletion was cause my nation had expressed views on
athiesm that certain person's didn't want to see expressed.
Therefore the appropriate conclusion is that the deletion was wrong
because it was politically motivated.
I know the chances of getting my nation back are practically nil.
But I am doing this as a matter of principal.
Due to what I saw in thread I looked up.
Due to a thread I saw, I have begun collecting evidence.
Here it is for you puruse.
The only thread where I was warned:
Note that it was not a formal warning:
Note the flaming just cause I had a bout of patriotism.
This particular thread shows that I was considered a troll just
because I said athiests forced their views on people just as much
other religions do.
Stephistan gives me warning but does not warn any of the others, whome
she is in agreement with.
_____________________________________________________
22-07-2004, 3:24 PM #1
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Americans and Athiesm
According to th US Bureau of the Census:
Less than 1% of Americans are athiest. Interesting as athiest always
force their views on others at gun point.
Americans view the rest of the world as being just plain lazy.
22-07-2004, 3:30 PM #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakartopia
Athiests force their points at gunpoint? When? Where? How? More than
theists?
Theists believe in freedom of religion, atheists do not. Atheists want
to ban all religion. And atheists want to censor all speech they don't
agree with.
22-07-2004, 3:34 PM #8
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Whittier is that why you want God to Bless only America and the rest
of the world to go to hell? Because you are so religious and
compassionate?
nice... well Im not religious, but I am not an atheist either.
so from my non-biased viewpoint I have seen no forcing of beliefs by
atheists and VERY MUCH forcing of beliefs by mainly Christians.
Also I have seen MANY MANY christians say that America is a Christian
nation and the laws shoudl be based on Christian values.
I'm not saying all of them are liek this but much more than any atheist.
22-07-2004, 3:36 PM #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gods Bowels
Whittier is that why you want God to Bless only America and the rest
of the world to go to hell? Because you are so religious and
compassionate?
nice... well Im not religious, but I am not an atheist either.
so from my non-biased viewpoint I have seen no forcing of beliefs by
atheists and VERY MUCH forcing of beliefs by mainly Christians.
Also I have seen MANY MANY christians say that America is a Christian
nation and the laws shoudl be based on Christian values.
I'm not saying all of them are liek this but much more than any atheist.
If our laws weren't based on the christian bible, we would not be rich
as we are economically, nor as powerful militarily.
The rest of the world has atheist governments and they are all poor
and pathetically weak.
22-07-2004, 3:37 PM #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
If our laws weren't based on the christian bible, we would not be rich
as we are economically, nor as powerful militarily.
The rest of the world has atheist governments and they are all poor
and pathetically weak.
You mean like the Atheist government of Iran?
Your world view is utterly retarded.
22-07-2004, 3:41 PM #19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gods Bowels
You must not have been here when it was disproved that the Laws were
based on the Christian bible.
Eitehr that or you chose to ignore it and you are just trollign which
is what it really looks like due to your apparent complete lack of
common sense.
Trolling:
Making a statement that other people don't agree with, and that must
be censored cause others don't agree with it.
22-07-2004, 3:48 PM #27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakartopia
Kinda sounds like your view on everything not American/religious.
If it was not for christian america, the rest of the world would be
Hitler's slave's right now.
22-07-2004, 3:53 PM #32
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Okay, Whittier, you're are coming very close to trolling.. I have
already locked one of your threads for flamebait.. Keep it up and you
will get a formal warning on your nation.
Thank You
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22-07-2004, 4:03 PM #40
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Also the US Supreme Court even said that athiests force their views on
everyone else. That is why it overturned the 9th circuit decision
regarding the pledge of allegiance.
22-07-2004, 4:06 PM #48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakartopia
Athiests force their points at gunpoint? When? Where? How? More than
theists?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
Theists believe in freedom of religion,
Do they?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
atheists do not.
Don't they?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
Atheists want to ban all religion.
Do they?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
And atheists want to censor all speech they don't agree with.
Do they?
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22-07-2004, 4:10 PM #57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
We are still the wealthiest on the planet.
Japan only has the crumbs we throw at them cause we own Japan justlike
we own Europe. And we own Russia too.
You are sick! its that attutude that makes everyone hate america. cant
u see u and yer manifest destiny will bring america down. it will
crumble like the roman empire.
22-07-2004, 4:15 PM #67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whittier
Theists believe in freedom of religion, atheists do not. Atheists want
to ban all religion. And atheists want to censor all speech they don't
agree with.
you are seriosuly retarded.
I am athiest, and I am having religion crammed down my throat 24/7. I
think it's great that people believe in something, unlike me. I don't
care if anyone is ahtiest or not, just as long as they don't cram it
down my throat, which they do most of the time.
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He had a temporary bout of patriotism. A serious bout of patriotism.
23-07-2004, 4:13 AM #8
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Stephistan said he had claimed that it wasn't him several times
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So the Whittier Pact goes on without Whittier? How would that work?
I don't remember seeing Whittier claim it was someone else flaming...
I haven't ever seen Whittier flame- but I haven't been here very long...
EDIT- Oh, West Moon is Whittier. Now I get it... *facepalm*
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Originally Posted by West Moon
That is not true.
Ah, but it is. Don't you recall the little "Whittier is dead" thread?
I certainly do.
23-07-2004, 6:29 AM #27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Temporary whittier
You said serveral times.
Yes, that did go on for several posts.. different puppets, all coming
from your ip #. You swore that they weren't you either. As for the
formal warning, issued it and then came back to find another thread in
mod about your flaming, that's why you got deleted.
23-07-2004, 6:45 AM #36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Temporary whittier
I saw. One of them was an rp thread. Why was that one locked?
That was the one complained about in mod I believe.. and it was
basically the exact same post you had made in General to get that
thread locked. So, I'm not buying the IC argument either.
I'm done explaining.
Have a nice day!
(note that stephistan said several times. But cited only one example.
That was because there was only one incident. Not the many she that
she had claimed.)
_________________________________________________________________
The thread that supposedly caused my deletion:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...24&page=2&pp=30
the rp thread.
(As you can see, almost everything is rp, except for the one remark my
friend posted.)
_______________________________________________________________
I was thinking that it was odd. Cuase supposedly she issues a formal
warning but deletes my nation less than 5 seconds later.
Cause of an rp thread. So I did some searching to find out just
exactly what was said. I put Whittier into the search engine and
clicked search. And I found some interesting stuff.
This thread for instance:
New Haderan
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 7
America is NOT founded on Christian values.
For all those who have argued against secularism in America by saying
that our Founding Fathers built it upon a Judeo-Christian foundation,
I offer you this:
(A footnote, most of this is intended to be read by Whittier, whose
ceaseless idiocy drove me to have to completely debunk this absurd claim)
22-07-2004, 6:35 PM #2
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Was Whittier saying that nonsense again? Sigh, some people never learn.
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Was Whittier saying that nonsense again? Sigh, some people never learn.
I deleted "Whittier"
22-07-2004, 6:47 PM #7
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22-07-2004, 8:30 PM #55
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Here is MY feeling on the matter. As much as it doesn't make sense to
me, believe all you wish. If you believe in a god, all the freaking
power to you. I am no one to judge you.. and I certainly can't say
there is or isn't because quite frankly NO ONE knows.
But here's the thing, I do have a problem with Religion X.. telling me
how I should or should not think.. I do have a problem with religion X
saying they are right and there is no possible way they're wrong. I am
an atheist. It makes sense to me. However, I do play with the idea I
just might be wrong, I don't think so, but I don't know for sure, no
one does.
If religion X whatever religion is what you wish to believe, hey, I
say go for it.. if it makes you feel better, gives meaning to your
life, whatever your reasons are.. go for it.
What I don't see is a need to convert the rest of us who it doesn't
make sense to. Who cares? I mean you believe , I don't, the world
keeps spinning round, right?
Why should I care what you believe any more then you should care what
I believe? I have many friends and all my family who do believe, I
love them and that's not going to change.. Yet, they don't have a
right to dictate morality to me.. If I'm not hurting any one, who cares?
It's all very silly really.. the whole religious debate.. believe as
you wish and I shall do the same..
It's no biggy
(Clearly, the fact that people didn't agree with my view that athiests
could be just as bad as thiests had something to do with my deletion.)
______________________________________________________________
And now the smoking gun:
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Posts: 183
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colodia
Damn, I was fine with Canada and the whole of Europe until I came here
and discovered stereotyping at its best.
Now I got this HUGE problem with Canada and I have this urge to
conquer Europe.
Hell, now I sing "Blame Canada" at Cross Country workouts all the time.
I don't really care either way about Americans as a whole. I just like
to correct the occasional blatant misinterpretations of history they
occasionally put forward, such as "W3 w0n teh w0r of 1812!!!!!1111" I
also like to correct blatant misinterpretations of history put forward
by fellow Europeans, lest they make me look stupid by association.
I have lots of online friends who are American, and I have nothing
against the country in general. Just idiots like Whittier.
Stephistan
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagari
Just idiots like Whittier.
Then you'll be happy to know I deleted him...
found here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...hlight=whittier
(this thread makes it clear I was deleted cause some people on General
did not like my views. Note Stephistan's response to Vagari.)
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The facts show that the deletion was clearly politically motivated.
And hence sets a bad precedent.
While I was warned about supposedly trolling, none of the others, who
were clearly flaming the threads recieved any warning. But were
allowed to continue to troll and flame.
The reason for the deletion was cause my nation had expressed views on
athiesm that certain person's didn't want to see expressed.
Therefore the appropriate conclusion is that the deletion was wrong
because it was politically motivated.