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I apologise for posting if this gets considered to be spam, but what happened to the policy on appointing founders being that you'll almost never appoint founders? Japan got itself a founder just the other week as well.[Emphasis mine.]

"almost never" != "never"

(For those who aren't familiar with the C programming language, read that as "'Almost never' is not equal to 'never'.")

It's rare that we appoint Founders, but we do do it on rare occassion.

The fact that "Japan" got a Founder last week is just a fluke of probability.

Also, this topic is going to be open for at least a week or two before I make the appointment.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation Yeah, but I understood rare occasion to be.... 2 to 3 times before the heat death of the universe. Is it just like the number 7 bus, you wait ages for a founder to be appointed, and then two get appointed at once?

Also, if I remember rightly, didn't the region "Sparrow" get turned down for a new founder at one point? They were pretty large at the time if I remember rightly...

I suppose what I'm really surprised about is the lack of any obvious extraordinary conditions. Normally, on the rare occasions founders are appointed, it happens maybe if a sufficiantly sized region gets griefed or something (eg: Hell). What were the unique circumstances in Japan or TPC?

I'm just asking cos often people want to know about founder appointments, and now I don't know how I'd respond to a thread like that.

Didn't Sparrow lose its Founder because of Moderation action (namely, got deleted)?

I too was impressed and happy that Japan was given a founder/the original founder could be revived.

I am seeking thoughts and information regarding the refounding of regions to restore the founder access lost by formerly active and or absent players. I have had some success with three smaller regions but I am receiving inquiries as a result as to how to do it but my knowledge base is rather limited.

Any thoughts or ideas that you may have are most welcome and appreciated.

Brad/Nolaerie

Yeah, but I understood rare occasion to be.... 2 to 3 times before the heat death of the universe. Is it just like the number 7 bus, you wait ages for a founder to be appointed, and then two get appointed at once?

Also, if I remember rightly, didn't the region "Sparrow" get turned down for a new founder at one point? They were pretty large at the time if I remember rightly...

I suppose what I'm really surprised about is the lack of any obvious extraordinary conditions. Normally, on the rare occasions founders are appointed, it happens maybe if a sufficiantly sized region gets griefed or something (eg: Hell). What were the unique circumstances in Japan or TPC?

I'm just asking cos often people want to know about founder appointments, and now I don't know how I'd respond to a thread like that.

Well, we withdrew our foundership petition a while ago, because our "creator" (the guy who created the region before founders and who was resurrected recently) didn't want us to, and I respecet that decision.

I believe our circumstances is that we are quite large (240+ nations).

Well, we withdrew our foundership petition a while ago, because our "creator" (the guy who created the region before founders and who was resurrected recently) didn't want us to, and I respecet that decision.

Then, is that no longer the case? I mean, if the region didn't want a Founder and still doesn't, what's the point of getting one now?

I believe our circumstances is that we are quite large (240+ nations).

How long have you been that large? Have you dealt with being that large without much problems? Personally, I don't think having a large region merits special circumstances to having a Founder appointed, because then, anyone can come in and claim that they want a Founder instated - because of their population - and when they're denied will point back to a case like this and say, "Well, that's not fair."

Well, we withdrew our foundership petition a while ago, because our "creator" (the guy who created the region before founders and who was resurrected recently) didn't want us to, and I respecet that decision.

Then, is that no longer the case? I mean, if the region didn't want a Founder and still doesn't, what's the point of getting one now?

That's my fault; I was acting on out-of-date information. "Blackbird" had submitted a request for Foundership a long time ago, far prior to the resurrection of "Haderan", the actual nation that founded the region. While looking into "Blackbird"s request, "Haderan" had telegrammed me saying that he didn't want to be appointed Founder and asked that no Founder be appointed at all unless there was an overwhelming call for such a thing. "Blackbird" then withdrew his Foundership request in accordance with "Haderan"s wishes, but I wasn't notified of such withdrawal until after I posted the Foundership topic in Moderation.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Ah, okay, that makese sense. I think it also brings some light to this topic.

Well, we withdrew our foundership petition a while ago, because our "creator" (the guy who created the region before founders and who was resurrected recently) didn't want us to, and I respecet that decision.

I believe our circumstances is that we are quite large (240+ nations).
I had no objections to you being made founder of TPC as a specific case, I was just curious as to why it was being offered as an option

Didn't Sparrow lose its Founder because of Moderation action (namely, got deleted)?
Did it? Okay, my point on Sparrow was probably irrelevant if thats true then.

Yes, to clarify our specific situation.

Haderan created a user-created region, The Proletariat Coalition, before founders existed. When founders came into gameplay mechanics, he did not see a need for one. His nation ceased to exist, and several months afterwards, I petitioned for a founder. This was all many months ago. During that time, Haderan ressurected, and in accordance to and with respect to his wishes (as he, was, after all, our ideological if not gameplay founder), I withdrew the application, but I did not properly communicate with Cogitation, for which he has my most profuse apologies.