NationStates Jolt Archive

After 28 days, when a nation is deleted, is it possible to register with that same nation name? If no, why not?

No, that is not possible. However you can get the nation revived via the "getting help" page, located here:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help

The reason you are not allowed to use previous nations' names is that some names carry a reputation left by their previous owners. Someone may want to undermine that previous owner and tarnish their repuation. It would also just cause general confusion amoungst the players who knew that nation.

After 28 days, when a nation is deleted, is it possible to register with that same nation name? If no, why not?


You were already told the answer to this, and it's a non-negotiable: NO.

No, that is not possible. However you can get the nation revived via the "getting help" page, located here:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help

The reason you are not allowed to use previous nations' names is that some names carry a reputation left by their previous owners. Someone may want to undermine that previous owner and tarnish their repuation. It would also just cause general confusion amoungst the players who knew that nation.

Additionally, The previous owner may want to come back, someday, and continue playing. That statistics of the dead nation are kept static until the nation is resurrected by a Moderator so that the original owner can get back their nation in the same condition in which they left it.

Also, if the nation was ejected from the UN for rule violations, but died of inactivity, it could still be resurrected, but the UN ban would remain in place.

In other words: If a nation dies due to inactivity, then you can get the original old nation back, but you cannot create a fresh new nation in its place.

In anticipation of what you're thinking, let me spell this out for you clearly (and I'm trying to be polite, here): Under no circumstances other than an Admin-granted appeal will any NationStates nation named "Imperial Italia" ever be a member of the United Nations in NationStates 1 ever again. Admins almost never grant appeals.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Hey, Cogy, I applied for the UN in my new nation of Italia Imperiale, but I also did it for my puppet nation of Due Sicilia, so, umm, if I reject the email when it comes in on Italia Imperiale, it wouldn't count as being a UN member, correct? Because I changed my mind on the Italia Imperiale, that's why.

Yes. Just ignore the other e-mail.

There were some players who would apply to the UN with lots of different puppets and only finalize the application of whichever nation they needed at such a time as to be advantageous to the puppeteer and resigning the other(s) from the UN. If memory serves me correctly, this practice was ruled in violation of the rules. You may want to get a clarification from Cog or another mod if this is your intention to avoid the whole "why did Loopholia get deleted?!?" confusion

There were some players who would apply to the UN with lots of different puppets and only finalize the application of whichever nation they needed at such a time as to be advantageous to the puppeteer and resigning the other(s) from the UN. If memory serves me correctly, this practice was ruled in violation of the rules. You may want to get a clarification from Cog or another mod if this is your intention to avoid the whole "why did Loopholia get deleted?!?" confusion


I have asked this to SalusaSecundus, and he told me that that was okay, within the rules, as long as there would be only one UN member. The safest thing to do was have 24 hours between resignation of one, and acceptance of the other. You could easily be mistaken for a multy, that is why he adviced the 24 hours between each. Just as a precaution, but not as rule.

Just out of curiousity, why is multi-UN nations considered cheating and bad? I mean, I could understand if it is to gain more votes for one resolution, but for what else could it be illegal for (I am not pressing the Imperial Italia restoration issue)?

Just out of curiousity, why is multi-UN nations considered cheating and bad? I mean, I could understand if it is to gain more votes for one resolution, but for what else could it be illegal for (I am not pressing the Imperial Italia restoration issue)?

UN endorsements are used to determine who is Delegate of a region, and the Delegate has access to Regional Control (unless the region has a Founder and the Founder blocked Delegate access). Regional Control can be used to impose a regional password and to kick nations out of the region. This is useful for keeping unwanted guests out, but it can also be abused.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Just out of curiousity, why is multi-UN nations considered cheating and bad? I mean, I could understand if it is to gain more votes for one resolution, but for what else could it be illegal for (I am not pressing the Imperial Italia restoration issue)?

If one member of the site had, say, 1000 UN nations, he/she could use those votes to sway any resolution one way or another. This is a big deal, too, along with all the other griefing and such that Cog has touched on in his previous post.

There were some players who would apply to the UN with lots of different puppets and only finalize the application of whichever nation they needed at such a time as to be advantageous to the puppeteer and resigning the other(s) from the UN. If memory serves me correctly, this practice was ruled in violation of the rules. You may want to get a clarification from Cog or another mod if this is your intention to avoid the whole "why did Loopholia get deleted?!?" confusion
This is incorrect; both [violet] and Sal said this practice was OK. I had the threads bookmarked on the old forum, but it would take some rooting around to find them now. I'll have a look...