NationStates Jolt Archive

I understand that game rules have not been changed. So far, so good, but have forum rules changed? I have done some reading in the Jolt forum, and I noticed that the 4 letter "F" word is widely abused in conversation. Lol, some of the members have it even in their signatures. I hate to be blamed for starting it up, but are Jolt rules any different here in the NS forum?

Speaking personally, I'd allow it in conversation as long as it is not directed at anyone so as to become flaming. Signatures, I'd say no and would edit them out.
I will bring this up with the other moderators, however, before I take any action.

Of course, this is all subject to being overruled by a higher power.

I always thought it was a tiny bit of hypocrite to say 'shit' uncensored but not 'fuck'.

This is what I got from a signature:
Originally posted by Damaged Justice
Crappy, fuck off you fucking retard.

Please don't blame me.

How about this "smilie"? :upyours:

I personally think that starring curses is ridiculous. Everyone knows what you mean and it achieves nothing, so realistically a word censor is pointless. Same for beeping on radio edits.

[/growling]

I personally think that starring curses is ridiculous. Everyone knows what you mean and it achieves nothing, so realistically a word censor is pointless. Same for beeping on radio edits.

[/growling]

Think of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children?!

I just wondered if the rules have changed. I will not repeat anything anymore. Girlscout's honour :D

I just wondered if the rules have changed.

Why would the rules change?

Max Barry still owns NationStates. His rules, his way, or the highway; why whould it be any different?

Why would the rules change?

Max Barry still owns NationStates. His rules, his way, or the highway; why whould it be any different?

I don't think Max owns this forum ;)

Think of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children?!

Children come from the verb in question, dude.

Think of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children?!

I really don't think we should think of children when the subject at hand is the verb to fuck.

Children come from the verb in question, dude.
Think of this scenario:
Person says 'f' word on forum
Child reading forum sees 'f' word
Child starts saying 'f' word everywhere
Parents wash child's mouth out with soap for saying 'f' word

Think: do you want that to happen? THINK OF THE CHILDREN READING THE FORUM!

Or better yet, add a COPPA restriction. By the time you turn 13, you should prolly already know about the 'f' word. But foreigners might not. Try to avoid saying the 'f' word.

Think of this scenario:
Person says 'f' word on forum
Child reading forum sees 'f' word
Child starts saying 'f' word everywhere
Parents wash child's mouth out with soap for saying 'f' word


Person advocates a political stance on the forum.
Young person reading forum sees political stance described.
Young person advocates political stance everywhere.
Authority figures punish the young person for their beliefs & actions based on that stance.

Difference?

In your scenario who is being unreasonable: the original poster, the child, or the parents?

And what if you use the word in a RP, a great way to convey your characters emotions, or some such.

And what if you use the word in a RP, a great way to convey your characters emotions, or some such.

I am not entirely sure, but I think that is allowed. Like Myrth says: "As long as you don't direct it at someone."

I always assumed that people who, for some reason, cannot stand the sight or sound of the word 'fuck' were retarded or something. Surely unless I'm directing it at you in some kind of invective, it's not actually doing you any harm.

If I really want to offend people, I have a hundred ways of doing so using words that, out of context, are quite harmless. I really don't see why any word should be offensive when not used in an offensive context.

So, in conclusion: Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.

Think of this scenario:
Person says 'f' word on forum
Child reading forum sees 'f' word
Child starts saying 'f' word everywhere
Parents wash child's mouth out with soap for saying 'f' word

Think: do you want that to happen? THINK OF THE CHILDREN READING THE FORUM!

Or better yet, add a COPPA restriction. By the time you turn 13, you should prolly already know about the 'f' word. But foreigners might not. Try to avoid saying the 'f' word.

You sir, are political correct

I really don't think we should think of children when the subject at hand is the verb to fuck.

This is why there are so many surprises in the world -- not thinking about consequences. :p

Children come from the verb in question, dude.


No, actually it's old English and is in fact an acronym..

F - forced
U - unlawful
C - carnal
K - knowledge

Which amounts to rape.

Granted that's not how it is generally used any more.

No, actually it's old English and is in fact an acronym..

F - forced
U - unlawful
C - carnal
K - knowledge

Which amounts to rape.

Granted that's not how it is generally used any more.

No it's not, it's a corruption of the German 'fokken,' an imitative sound for hitting [presumably developed in the sense that 'bang' is used now].

No it's not, it's a corruption of the German 'fokken,' an imitative sound for hitting [presumably developed in the sense that 'bang' is used now].

Bah, you're right.. my version was a myth..lol one I might add that I have foolishly believed for a long time..Ah well

[Fuck] is a very old word, recorded in English since the 15th century (few acronyms predate the 20th century), with cognates in other Germanic languages. The Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang (Random House, 1994, ISBN 0-394-54427-7) cites Middle Dutch fokken = "to thrust, copulate with"; Norwegian dialect fukka = "to copulate"; and Swedish dialect focka = "to strike, push, copulate" and fock = "penis". Although German ficken may enter the picture somehow, it is problematic in having e-grade, or umlaut, where all the others have o-grade or zero-grade of the vowel.

Bah, you are taking the fun out of the word :headbang:

Bah, you are taking the fun out of the word :headbang:
Thanks for taking the fun out of the word, guys. Perhaps then people will stop saying it. :-\

No, actually it's old English and is in fact an acronym..

F - forced
U - unlawful
C - carnal
K - knowledge

Which amounts to rape.

Granted that's not how it is generally used any more.

Laughably incorrect.
Did you seriously believe that acronyms were used in the middle ages?

This is blasphemy. God gave an entire race a word to giggle about, and it takes one single adult to take the fun out of it again :confused:

I really don't think we should think of children when the subject at hand is the verb to fuck.

This is why there are so many surprises in the world -- not thinking about consequences. :p

I was refering to thinking about children as the object of the verb to fuck, rather than the end result.

Think of this scenario:
Person says 'f' word on forum
Child reading forum sees 'f' word
Child starts saying 'f' word everywhere
Parents wash child's mouth out with soap for saying 'f' word

Think: do you want that to happen? THINK OF THE CHILDREN READING THE FORUM!

Or better yet, add a COPPA restriction. By the time you turn 13, you should prolly already know about the 'f' word. But foreigners might not. Try to avoid saying the 'f' word.With the number of nazis who frequent NationStates, I hardly think the word fuck is the greatest concern.

Laughably incorrect.
Did you seriously believe that acronyms were used in the middle ages?


I was told that years ago.. and I just never questioned it.. it didn't seem that important..lol So, yeah, I guess I did believe it.. Doh!

I don't think Max owns this forum ;)

He owns the right to use the name "NationStates" in conjunction with this forum. Thus, his rule is law here, too, along with whatever rules Jolt imposes.

I was told that years ago.. and I just never questioned it.. it didn't seem that important..lol So, yeah, I guess I did believe it.. Doh!

Sorry, about that my response seemed a bit harsh.

Since I made it, however, I have been trying to think of any acronyms that would have existed in the middle ages. The Greek Jesus/fish one is the only one I can really think of right now, but I am sure there are some other Latin ones that I have forgotten. As far as medieval english goes, though, I'm drawing a complete blank.

Seems like this topic would be good for a nation issue...if there isn't one already...

What's the stance on the 'c' word out of interest? (And anyone who seriously thinks that Jolt is bad for the use of the word "fuck" should read Chaucer.)

wow

This is blasphemy. God gave an entire race a word to giggle about, and it takes one single adult to take the fun out of it again :confused:

Nope, neither meself nor Stephistan is single, hence the reason we have such OMFG POWAH.

So I guess we can use the

:D :D :D
:D
:D :D :D
:D
:D word

Fuck yeah.

Fuck fuckety fuckfuckfuck.

See, it doesn't hurt anyone! :D

Well this is a fucking turnout for the books then.

Dear god... Moderators saying fuck...

I LOVE YOU ALL!

Well as you can use the f word, can we run in the forums now...pwwwweease.

Fuck fuckety fuckfuckfuck.

See, it doesn't hurt anyone! :D


Can we name bodyparts too, now? :D

Can we name bodyparts too, now? :D

What bodyparts were we forbidden to name when the server was located in the home of the free?

Well as you can use the f word, can we run in the forums now...pwwwweease.

No, because you could be carrying a virtual pair of scissors and someone could get hurt.

What bodyparts were we forbidden to name when the server was located in the home of the free?

The "Penis" word, and the "****" word, for instance. I was not talking about arms, legs and shoulders :p

The "Penis" word, and the "****" word, for instance.

Ah, the pectorals and the chin.

I certainly got away with using the catch all term 'pudenda' on the old server.

Ah, the pectorals and the chin.

Exactly. I just love to hang around with smart people :fluffle:

Well, it seems that the British are a bit more...oh...liberal* when it comes to speech. Surprisingly, this site does not support the gun laws in Britian. I was almost surprised that this was not an American forum, until I saw things that would NEVER be in an American forum.

It is very obvious that these forums are a bit more liberal* in their showing of emotion, such as...


:sniper:
:mp5:
:gundge:

And to show anger

:upyours:

And a more radical expression of the nationstates :wub:

:fluffle:

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*NOTE: "liberal" in this case does not refer to the political left/right spectrum -- instead it refers to being more free to do something or not.

/me looks around at the crowds as though everyone has gone mad.

/me realizes that this is not a new development.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester

lol

Well thanks alot, I've already been brainwashed not to say it thanks to the rules on the old forum :rolleyes:

I was always a fan of using swears from different languages, it was cathartic and the ladies like an exotic man.

Sharmuta.

Pfft. Stick a f*rk in it.

pudenda, huh? learned a new word today! :D

Since when did fark become a dirty word? :mad:

Since when did fark become a dirty word? :mad:

I think he meant "fork".

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

I think he meant "fork".

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

No he didn't! Saying "fark" is an deletable offence in many fora.

I some said "FARK YOU!", to you, wouldn't you be offended?

what would be the limit tho'?



fucking fuck this fucking sucks fucking hell<---something like that? or does it have to be directed at people to be prohibited?

fucking fuck this fucking sucks fucking hell<---something like that? or does it have to be directed at people to be prohibited?And how about, for fuck's sake, provide your fucking sources.

Surprisingly, this site does not support the gun laws in Britian.
Not to sound rude, but can I have a cite for that please?

What exactly do you want me to get a site for?

What exactly do you want me to get a site for?

A cite or citation for the fact that the forum doesn't support the UK gun laws, if I follow correctly.

No he didn't! Saying "fark" is an deletable offence in many fora.

I some said "FARK YOU!", to you, wouldn't you be offended?

Actually, I wouldn't take offense. I use Fark everyday to get my news! :cool:

And how about, for fuck's sake, provide your fucking sources.

LOL :D

A cite or citation for the fact that the forum doesn't support the UK gun laws, if I follow correctly.

That was just a WAG (wild ass guess) providing that there are three smileys that deal with weapons that are even illegal to own in the United States.

That was just a WAG (wild ass guess) providing that there are three smileys that deal with weapons that are even illegal to own in the United States.

Do you base all your statements on such ill-thought out reasoning and circumstantial evidence?

would the signature "Cuck the Fubs" be OK?

would the signature "Cuck the Fubs" be OK?
I agree about the fubs!

Do you base all your statements on such ill-thought out reasoning and circumstantial evidence?

Goddamnit!

The statement was meant as a freakin joke!

No, I do not base my decisions on WAGs, btw.

Bah. White Sucks. :upyours:

Oh, and I don't believe that this gun: :gundge: is banned anywhere, as I'm pretty sure that... er... radioactive-sludge (or whatever the Hell that green stuff is) guns don't exist.

Oh, and one more thing:

Fuck the fucking fuckers

Ahem. Sorry, figured that since everyone else was acting like a 13-year-old, I could too.

Ahem. Sorry, figured that since everyone else was acting like a 13-year-old, I could too.
*Repeats everything the Most Glorious Hack said in a silly voice*

Might as well lock this now. It has served its purpose :D

I'm tempted to throw it in Jolt's spam forum.

Funny. I was tempted to throw it into the Archive forum.

I'm tempted to throw it in Jolt's spam forum.

Don't you dare, unless you let a link open. This thread is very educational. A simple lock is much better. ;)

Might as well lock this now. It has served its purpose :DThis thread had a purpose? Fuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkkkkk

Just to get it in before I can’t; fuckity fuckity fuck fuck.

FUCK (http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/anonx/)

That is all I will say to this :cool:

Actually, I wouldn't take offense. I use Fark everyday to get my news! :cool:

What's your fark account? Mine Katholic Kaukasian Kommunit!

I still haven't used the "F" word. You are all out of line! Your deletion is imminent! :mp5:

what is the ruling of the "Cuck the Fubs" signature? I want to use it but need mod OK

Why doesn't everyone start using "Fukk" instead? I mean hey, it's carbonated! :P

what is the ruling of the "Cuck the Fubs" signature? I want to use it but need mod OK

Does it mean something offensive?

Does it mean something offensive?

fuck the cubs waarschijnlijk ;)

fuck the cubs waarschijnlijk ;)

If any mod is a fan of the Astros, he'll surely be raised to modhood, but on the other hand, if a mod is a fan of the Cubs :rolleyes:

To be short, looks like flamebait. I say: "Don't take the risk."

What's your fark account? Mine Katholic Kaukasian Kommunit!

Mine is MPScott108

Sadly, I don't post there very often. Usually when I have something to add or say, someone beats me to the punch. :headbang:

If any mod is a fan of the Astros, he'll surely be raised to modhood, but on the other hand, if a mod is a fan of the Cubs :rolleyes:

To be short, looks like flamebait. I say: "Don't take the risk."
I know Hack is a Flubs fan(and I weep for him now that they are dead), he will deat me for it. If there are Marlin, Reds, Brewers, Astros, Pirates, or Card fans I'm safe

Who give's a crap! we should be allowed to say what we want and when we want

Who give's a crap! we should be allowed to say what we want and when we want
hehehe. no. :D

Who give's a crap! we should be allowed to say what we want and when we want

You might want to revist the FAQs.

Who give's a crap! we should be allowed to say what we want and when we want

I agree with the second part. You may speak whenever you want, but say what you want, might bring this site down to a flamefesting, garbage spitting children's playground, and I'll be out in a jiffy. Freedom is nice, but when it gets abused, the fun is over. You may simply go play another game, but you would have destroyed a perfectly good game for thousands of others.
Now I think of it, it isn't even logicall to speak whenever you want. If you yell "BOMB!" during flight of an airplane, you'll be thrown in jail. Try yelling "FIRE!" in cimema, for instance. You are thrown out so fast, you'll never know what happend :p

I know Hack is a Flubs fan(and I weep for him now that they are dead), he will deat me for it. If there are Marlin, Reds, Brewers, Astros, Pirates, or Card fans I'm safe
I believe that I'm the only Mod who really follows baseball.

FUCK (http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/anonx/)

That is all I will say to this :cool:

That was too funny! :p

Why doesn't everyone start using "Fukk" instead? I mean hey, it's carbonated! :P

Because I don't like using stolen ideas....I won't use "Fukk" until Scat gets the credit he deserves. :p

I don't like the sound of 'fukk' and 'scat' being used in the same sentence ;/

I don't like the sound of 'fukk' and 'scat' being used in the same sentence ;/
It appears that someone hasn't read Syrup...

And what if you use the word in a RP, a great way to convey your characters emotions, or some such.

When I have my characters swear, I avoid the issue by saying "So and So swore in Callisdrunian"
Except when they're talking to just other Callisdrunians, which is rare. Then I usually wrote "So and so cursed"

I don't like the sound of 'fukk' and 'scat' being used in the same sentence ;/

I agree. It shouldn't be allowed.

http://www.wisher-lures.com/beanie/scat.jpg

I don't like the sound of 'fukk' and 'scat' being used in the same sentence ;/

We will just avoid using the word 'felch' then.

We will just avoid using the word 'felch' then.Oh yuck. You are a bad, bad person.

Oh yuck. You are a bad, bad person.

Just gently probing to see how far our newly granted freedom of expression goes.

I've never liked the word fuck. Its far too common from being over-used. I made my own pair which I apply depending on how I am expressing myself. That, and, I occasionally develop a british accent. So they can occasionally come out that way to the listener/s any-way ...

1) " Fluck "

Example : " I don't give a flying fluck about foot-ball "

2) " Fock "

Example : " And you can fock off the misguided sarcasm already "

* Fluck is usually used only after " flying " but my also come before " 'em ".

* Fock may be turned into " focked " as in " They'll be focked before they get my vote "

It works for me, ;)

Context, context, context. If it’s out of context it is silly.

Actually, my favourite relation to " fuck " has to be the one I picked up from a great web comic while it was still up, " Boy Meets Boy ", and if I recall right, was the descriptive of choice used by the character Collin when various carbon based life-forms ... annoyed him. Mildly.

" fuck-tard ".

Beautiful ... simply beautiful ...

( Okay, I miss the web comic, still ... its a great word ... :D )

Children come from the verb in question, dude.
Haha thats hilarious.

" fuck-tard ".

Beautiful ... simply beautiful ...


I prefer "fucko".

when you realize that Fuck and Shit are no different than any other words...that's when you've reached maturity.

Fuck you means the same as "I really don't like you at this moment" and countless other things. You shouldn't say it at certain times...just like you don't go and say. "Hey man, how's it hangin'" to your 65 year old boss at work.

There's a time and a place for every word.

just like you don't go and say. "Hey man, how's it hangin'" to your 65 year old boss at work.

Because he might snap totally and reply : " Get off my lawn you young whipper-snapper ! " ? ;)

haha...yeah...something like that...