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Pedaphiliac

Erinin
12-06-2004, 20:56
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary



Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
One entry found for pedophilia.
Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia
Pronunciation: "pE-d&-'fi-lE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object
- pe·do·phil·i·ac /-'fi-lE-"ak/ or pe·do·phil·ic /-'fi-lik/ adjective

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=pedophiliac

I dont want to be an a$$hole, but if nazi sybolism is a problem (of which I am not advocating)
Then so to should names like Pedaphiliac.
To Ped, I dont think you were thinking at all when you chose that name.
I think it should be deleted(or changed if he can).
If I have some how missed the meaning of your name and taking to simply be a poor attempt at spelling "child molestor" then I apologize.
Praetonia
12-06-2004, 21:02
I dont see a problem with it - how does his name hurt anyone? I mean do you think we ought to ban news reports about Pedophilia in case they offend anyone? It's just a name, should we ban war and slavery on the II forum because they are bad? I'd be interested to hear mod comments on this though.
Erinin
12-06-2004, 21:06
How nice that you dont see a problem with child molestation, this is not a news site.
I dont see problem with letting people have swastikas for flags butthen it doesnt matter what you or I think.
I have pointed out my beef I leave it up to the mods.
This isnt a poll n00b, this is a post for mods which is why it is in the moderation forum.
DeadPeace
12-06-2004, 21:07
Its hard to think off a name because normally if you do a name it could be offensive to somebody else but its not intended so lay off
Gothic Kitty
12-06-2004, 21:08
<------- Not a moderator

There is no nation with that name, so can you please explain why you are bringing this up?
Tactical Grace
12-06-2004, 21:09
We will look into it.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Erinin
12-06-2004, 21:11
<------- Not a moderator

There is no nation with that name, so can you please explain why you are bringing this up?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=770009

Shut up.
Thanks Grace I appreciate that.
Gothic Kitty
12-06-2004, 21:12
Shut up.


There are nicer ways to ask me to stay out of this :x
Tactical Grace
12-06-2004, 21:16
OK guys, please stay calm, moving along if possible.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Reploid Productions
13-06-2004, 02:24
Alright, here's the story:

Yeah, I don't think child molestation is a good thing, however, the nation died of inactivity, the player asked for it to be revived. It had a warning tag on it, but did not die of mod action, so therefore is fair game to be revived. If the player isn't careful about toeing the line though, he'll get deleted.

~Rep
Pedaphiliac
13-06-2004, 02:29
um...ive had this name for a LONG time...and no one has ever said anything about it. I dont go around preaching about pedophilia...its just a name. Ask anyone that knows me, I dont go around saying my country partakes in it.

But ive had this country for a long while, and ive done very little wrong. It would upset me greatly if i had to lose this nation. I think the fact that the mods reactivated it in the first place says that its ok..
NuMetal
13-06-2004, 03:45
Yeah you have had that name for a long time so it seems kind of weird if it was deleted now....
Erinin
13-06-2004, 16:29
Reploid Productions, fair enough. I had to say something, i said it, I'm cool with that.

Pedaphiliac, I sent a tag to personally(or as personally as one can be with a tag) explain my protest of his name.
I would like to say for the record, I am not claiming he posted anything offensive, or any wrong doing on Ped's part other then choosing a very cruel and insensitive name.
He has a right to do so...fine.
I was just exercising my right to complain.
Nothing personal.
1 Infinite Loop
14-06-2004, 05:40
<-----Not a Mod, but crazy.



<------- Not a moderator

There is no nation with that name, so can you please explain why you are bringing this up?

as an excuse to flame and all under the false pretense of rightious indignaiton

Awwwwwwwww aint is sweet, Erinin said Noob,

also probably got moderated for having a Swastica and is now trying to raise as much heck as possible.
Jazzy J Funkmeister
14-06-2004, 07:01
Alright, here's the story:

Yeah, I don't think child molestation is a good thing, however, the nation died of inactivity, the player asked for it to be revived. It had a warning tag on it, but did not die of mod action, so therefore is fair game to be revived. If the player isn't careful about toeing the line though, he'll get deleted.

~Rep

Interesting. So the name "Pedaphiliac" is allowed, but the nation, The Capitalist Splendor of Money Whores has been deleted for being offensive? A nation that has been around a few years with not only no complaints against it, but many compliments towards it and requests for it to join other regions?

PM Ivy
Ivytopia
Feline Dominion
The Borg Wondercube
Money Whores
Whited Fields
14-06-2004, 07:22
Hmmm.

I think somehow some people are under the impression that this forum is called "Questioning Moderators Decisions", since so many people seem to think it is just that.

I, however, am under the impression that this forum is a place for people to post grievances about issues that are happening in the site, and allow people to post POSSIBLE suggestions for assistance until such time that a moderator has seen and made a decision on the matter.

That, to me, does not include shooting down other peoples grievances, the questioning of decisions of the staff, or offering non-staff opinions of what actions should be taken.

Now granted, assistance such as posting links and doing some of the groundwork for the moderators seems ok. But in all that, I DONT THINK they need our opinions of what should be done, if we feel a grievance is warranted, or what we think about the people involved in the grievances or their motivations for making them.

Simply put, can we please allow the staff to handle these matters?
imported_Ivytopia
14-06-2004, 07:26
Pfah. Copy-pasting the forum address apparently logs me back in as the last person who was here (in this case, the husband).

Forgot to add: if "Money Whores" is considered offensive, then why isn't "corporate bordello"? I would think the existence of that government type would invalidate moderator decision for refusing to reactivate Money Whores.

And don't say I should use an alternate name. I worked my butt off for that nation and was told by mods that the words "hooker," "prostitutte," and "ladies-of-the-evening" were fine to use, even though the first and third can be offensive to women for insinuating that only females can be prostitutes.

The system just seems flawed to me. "Dick" was listed as being censored in one thread, even as a name. I'm waiting for "Saturday" to be censored, as it has been in one other website I frequent.

PM Ivy
Ivytopia
Feline Dominion
The Borg Wondercube
Money Whores

P.S. I'm not going to be a flaming jerk about this whole thing, I just would like the system to be more balanced or the raging amount of stupidity displayed to be toned down.
Free Outer Eugenia
14-06-2004, 10:20
Well if Bastard got deleted for 'having an offensive name'... :roll:
imported_Ivytopia
14-06-2004, 14:16
Well if Bastard got deleted for 'having an offensive name'... :roll:

Interesting.

Actually two of mine were disabled because of inactivity (finals month - I logged in a scant hour after they disappeared) and while Feline Dominion was reactivated, the moderators told me they wouldn't reactivate Money Whores. :?

PM Ivy
Ivytopia
Feline Dominion
The Borg Wondercube
Money whores
HC Eredivisie
14-06-2004, 14:22
i think this is the general rule: If the nation <insert bad name> is very young (pop ~<12 million) it is deleted, if it was made before the mod-age, it can stay (there was one, but I forgot its name).

HCE, non mod
Tuesday Heights
14-06-2004, 15:58
I don't think "Pedaphiliac" is an offensive name, however, if the currency, national animal, and quote were offensive, then, perhaps action could or should for that matter be taken.

Pedaphiliac is not an "offensive" word, it is a definition, yes, but it does not invoke the same emotional response (as it is a politically correct form of saying: Child molestor) as using the n-word or calling someone a whore or slut. The actions of a pedophile are what gets people going, and I think we need to separate the definition of the word (in this case, for this nation) and the actions of an actual pedophile.
imported_Ivytopia
14-06-2004, 18:24
i think this is the general rule: If the nation <insert bad name> is very young (pop ~<12 million) it is deleted, if it was made before the mod-age, it can stay (there was one, but I forgot its name).

HCE, non mod

It had a population of 3 billion. I think just a couple hundred thousand short of Ivytopia's population. My nations have been around for a while, way before mods and while the only issues was the inital 30ish. They were fluctuating activity depending on how fast I went through issues. For a while I logged in each nation only once a month just because I had gone through all the issues several times.

Anyway, The Capitalist Splendor of Money Whores was nothing more than a satire of business-run government. The national animal was the overpaid elite and the currency was the platinum bullet. All my (and my husband's) nations are run that way. I have a psychotic dictatorship, military-run government, Ivytopia, and Money Whores, the capitalist government. My husband has a super liberal government, an anarchy, and a nation run by a stoned government.

And yes, we do need to separate the actions from the word, but the word "whore" also means "a person who has abandoned their morals for personal gain." In the case of my nation, it was the corporate-run government screwing over innocents in return for money and power. Every issue voted on was decided by thinking "which resolution would make the most money?"

And I still say "corporate bordello" should be stricken from the game if "whore" and "bastard" have been. After all, while "whore" has a second meaning that doesn't pertain to sexuality (and that meaning is used all the time in society so it's not an unknown meaning), "bordello" has no meaning other than "a place where sexual activity takes place, for a price."

I thought NS was supposed to be about simulation and experimenting. Worrying about this kind of stuff is kind of killing the fun. I take it the mods have already killed the nations with "Nazi" in their name as I remember a ton of those in the beginning.

Argh, this is just frustrating. It's about as dumb as stripcreator's obscenity filter blocking the word "Saturday" because it has the word "turd" in it.

PM Ivy
Ivytopia
Feline Dominion
The Borg Wondercube
Money Whores
Tuesday Heights
14-06-2004, 18:31
Well put, Ivytopia.
Free Outer Eugenia
15-06-2004, 00:41
(as it is a politically correct form of saying: Child molestor) No it's not. "Child molester" itself is a PC term. The two are completly different A pedophiliac is one with the desire to do such things. A child molester is one who does them.
Tuesday Heights
15-06-2004, 02:28
(as it is a politically correct form of saying: Child molestor) No it's not. "Child molester" itself is a PC term. The two are completly different A pedophiliac is one with the desire to do such things. A child molester is one who does them.

Actually, molester is no longer a PC term to use. In today's modern us of "pedophiliac," it covers the desire and the action. Since their was a high rise of such desires and actions, a new word was conveyed to describe both instead of using the un-PC "child molester."
Myrth
15-06-2004, 02:42
The mods have spoken! Leave debate in General.


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