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I'm just feeling a little discriminated against about this whole deletion thing. And i am a little dumbfounded that you will add an offence commited a very long time ago to the list.

I fail to see how having Multi-Un affects my status on the forums. And even so, I think the deletion was a little unfair. I'm not asking to be treated differently, but lately the mods seem to be taking a very nazi-esque attitude towards everything (no offence intended but it was the best way to discribe what I see).

Like many other have said, what's wrong with a warning? Is that below you?

You broke the rules--location is irrelevant. You were warned.

You broke the rules again. You were deleted.

Just like anyone else--quite fair. Granting leniency would certainly be discrimination--in your favor.

We're not quite sorry about the effect to your post count but I'm afraid all you can do is follow the rules just like everyone else.

How can something that happened in September last year still have affect now? Isn't there a chance to wipe the proverbial slate clean?

Can you look at my record and see that i've done nothing harmful in the recent months?

As for the motto, that could have been changed by you or me if you'd just taken the time to send me a TG and explained it. I'm not even going to state the fact that I've had that motto for 6 months now and this is the first time anyone has said anything negative about it.

Let's put it this way:

We give you leniency. Then the next time something happens, of course there will be a reason to be lenient to them as well. And again, and again, and again until we are absolutely less than useless because there's always an excuse, always a reason to let it pass and slide.

It is not my problem that you chose to toe the line. It is not my problem that you went over the line. You chose to take the actions that you did and, unfortunately for you, you went over the line. You posted spam threads when you knew that, at least in your mind, we were being "Nazi-like" concerning them. Every individual is responsible for their own conduct and is therefore responsible for taking the consequences of that selfsame conduct. Denying responsibility while requesting privilege is an indication of civil and moral immaturity which, while sadly wide-spread and growing in today's culture, remains uncognizant of the simple fact that causes have effects and vice versa. If one touches a hot stove, the stove will burn them. It will not allow for argument because the person just wanted to see it was hot or merely wanted to warm their hand; the simple definitions of thermodynamic heat transfer that are part and parcel with the laws of reality simply act. It is not done with malice or for petty reasons, it is simply done. I have full faith that you recognize this.

My function is to execute similar consequences on this website. That has been done. There is no more debate over this matter.

I must admit, It seemed a little rash considering that no warning was issued prior to deletion.

Six months is a long time.

If the last warning was six months ago, and then she makes a thread entitled "Spam..."
THEN gets deated.......Could it be that the mod assumed that she was attempting to get deated, like Cyril just did?

Ot at least.....say something.
A deletion just out of the blue is a bit strange, especially if the last offence was months ago.

Beg pardon,
I think this may be a bit hasty on the part of the mod.

I must admit, It seemed a little rash considering that no warning was issued prior to deletion.

Six months is a long time.

If the last warning was six months ago, and then she makes a thread entitled "Spam..."
THEN gets deated.......Could it be that the mod assumed that she was attempting to get deated, like Cyril just did?

Ot at least.....say something.
A deletion just out of the blue is a bit strange, especially if the last offence was months ago.

Beg pardon,
I think this may be a bit hasty on the part of the mod.

Surely that argument just indicates that it's ok to break the rules because 'I've never done it before'..... which is no defence really.

This site has never posted anything (to the very best of my knowledge) that misdemeanors will be given over a period of X weeks/months/years.

I must admit, It seemed a little rash considering that no warning was issued prior to deletion.
It was, six months ago.

Six months is a long time.
That is irrelevant. This has been established in precident for at least the same amount of time.

If the last warning was six months ago, and then she makes a thread entitled "Spam..."
THEN gets deated.......Could it be that the mod assumed that she was attempting to get deated, like Cyril just did?
No. I read the thread, determined it to be spam, went to apply a warning and found one there. Having already been alerted to remain cognizant of the rules to this site and yet infracting (time between alert and action irrelevant) nonetheless, the offending nation was deleted.

A deletion just out of the blue is a bit strange, especially if the last offence was months ago.
It is not out of the blue. It is in response to violations of the rules.

Beg pardon,
I think this may be a bit hasty on the part of the mod.
As is your right. I can only hope that my explanations suffice.

I must admit, It seemed a little rash considering that no warning was issued prior to deletion.

Six months is a long time.

If the last warning was six months ago, and then she makes a thread entitled "Spam..."
THEN gets deated.......Could it be that the mod assumed that she was attempting to get deated, like Cyril just did?

Ot at least.....say something.
A deletion just out of the blue is a bit strange, especially if the last offence was months ago.

Beg pardon,
I think this may be a bit hasty on the part of the mod.

Surely that argument just indicates that it's ok to break the rules because 'I've never done it before'..... which is no defence really.

This site has never posted anything (to the very best of my knowledge) that misdemeanors will be given over a period of X weeks/months/years.

No,
I merely implied that the other events that mods are taking into consideration happened almost a year ago.
Further, that before she was deleted, she was given no warning.
If one was issued, then her actions would have changed immediately,or so I believe, as I have no reason to think she is lying.

My opinion is that this deletion was a bit rash, and a warning would have sufficed.

I must admit, It seemed a little rash considering that no warning was issued prior to deletion.
It was, six months ago.

No,
I merely implied that the other events that mods are taking into consideration happened almost a year ago.
Further, that before she was deleted, she was given no warning.
If one was issued, then her actions would have changed immediately,or so I believe, as I have no reason to think she is lying.

My opinion is that this deletion was a bit rash, and a warning would have sufficed.

But why would there be a warning this time? What good would it achieve?

EXAMPLE
This is a warning... I am about to delete you...

There IS a warning, it's called the site rules.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a shame she was deleted for this, but to be honest, I think a LOT of people here would expect a warning for creating a thread that (literally by it's own definition) WAS spam.

This is a warning... I am about to delete you...


Not that kind of warning... that WOULD be pointless. he means the 'i've just locked your spam thread, you'll be deleted if you do it again' kind of warning.

i'm actually astonished that BV HADN'T ever had a warning for spam... it seems she'd only had a warning for UN-multi (is that right?).

But why would there be a warning this time? What good would it achieve?

EXAMPLE
This is a warning... I am about to delete you...

There IS a warning, it's called the site rules.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a shame she was deleted for this, but to be honest, I think a LOT of people here would expect a warning for creating a thread that (literally by it's own definition) WAS spam.

eh, did you just change your post? you seem to be contradicting yourself... :?

But why would there be a warning this time? What good would it achieve?

EXAMPLE
This is a warning... I am about to delete you...

There IS a warning, it's called the site rules.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a shame she was deleted for this, but to be honest, I think a LOT of people here would expect a warning for creating a thread that (literally by it's own definition) WAS spam.

eh, did you just change your post? you seem to be contradicting yourself... :?

um.. accepted I wasn't too clear. Posting spam is an offence which gets a warning. Hence my comment that anyone posting that thread should expect one. On this site, you get deleted for your second warning.

That's why I say a warning on THIS occasion would have been pointless, as it was her second, thus making her in danger of deletion anyway.

If she HADN'T been deleted, then it would have re-set the precendence to 'if you get a second warning, you MIGHT get deleted'.. which is a pretty big change for this site.

wtf, this is the biggest crock of shit ive heard in my life :roll:

um.. accepted I wasn't too clear. Posting spam is an offence which gets a warning. Hence my comment that anyone posting that thread should expect one. On this site, you get deleted for your second warning.

That's why I say a warning on THIS occasion would have been pointless, as it was her second, thus making her in danger of deletion anyway.

If she HADN'T been deleted, then it would have re-set the precendence to 'if you get a second warning, you MIGHT get deleted'.. which is a pretty big change for this site.

well this post has just confused me even more. :?
what on earth does 'you get deleted for your second warning' mean?

do you mean that you get 1 warning, and then an automatic deletion for your 2nd offence? regardless if that offence was different (ie spam) from the first one (un multi)?

sorry if i'm asking obvious questions here, but i realised i'm really not clear on this score.

I can immagine that it is warning related. If the offence deserves a warning, you get one. If you do something else, that also deserves a warning, you'll be deleted. Couldn't be simpler, but who am I, right?!

I can immagine that it is warning related. If the offence deserves a warning, you get one. If you do something else, that also deserves a warning, you'll be deleted. Couldn't be simpler, but who am I, right?!

that seems so, yes, but i thought i had seen people in the past get more. the mods would say something like 'this is your final warning, do it again or else', which implied that you might get more than 1 warning, BEFORE you do the final thing which gets you deated.

does it depend on the nature of the offence? like if you didn't really mean to spam/ flame - whereas BV did start a thread knowing it contravened recent rulings.

Couldn't be simpler, but who am I, right?!

oh, and it doesn't matter who you are, newb or puppet - if you have a valid comment, it's a valid comment. it's cool. :)

wtf, this is the biggest crock of shit ive heard in my life :roll:

evidently you haven't lived then... :P

well this post has just confused me even more. :?
what on earth does 'you get deleted for your second warning' mean?

do you mean that you get 1 warning, and then an automatic deletion for your 2nd offence? regardless if that offence was different (ie spam) from the first one (un multi)?

sorry if i'm asking obvious questions here, but i realised i'm really not clear on this score.

yes, that's what it means. Automatic deletion for second offence, regardless of whether it's related to, or the same as the first offence.

well this post has just confused me even more. :?
what on earth does 'you get deleted for your second warning' mean?

do you mean that you get 1 warning, and then an automatic deletion for your 2nd offence? regardless if that offence was different (ie spam) from the first one (un multi)?

sorry if i'm asking obvious questions here, but i realised i'm really not clear on this score.

I think that this is a good point. There needs to be some clearification on these issues.
Are all offenses equal in the eyes of the mods ? And what does it really hurt to say "Don't do this thing again" if they had not commited this offense before, and it was not a horrible offense (such as porn)? I have seen people recieve numerous warnings for flaming and such.
I think that it would have been considerably more considerate and just nice to say "Don't make spamm threads anymore or you will be deleted." Rather than just deleting a nation that she has obviously put so much time and effort into simply because she had a UN multi issue 6 months ago.

I must admit, It seemed a little rash considering that no warning was issued prior to deletion.
It was, six months ago.

Six months is a long time.
That is irrelevant. This has been established in precident for at least the same amount of time.

If the last warning was six months ago, and then she makes a thread entitled "Spam..."
THEN gets deated.......Could it be that the mod assumed that she was attempting to get deated, like Cyril just did?
No. I read the thread, determined it to be spam, went to apply a warning and found one there. Having already been alerted to remain cognizant of the rules to this site and yet infracting (time between alert and action irrelevant) nonetheless, the offending nation was deleted.

A deletion just out of the blue is a bit strange, especially if the last offence was months ago.
It is not out of the blue. It is in response to violations of the rules.

Beg pardon,
I think this may be a bit hasty on the part of the mod.
As is your right. I can only hope that my explanations suffice.
Thank you.I hae been trying to get info on my main nations deletion.so i see that you are supposed to get a warning,WHERE WAS MINE AND WHAT DID I DO WRONG.the rules you are speaking about were not followed on my case.explain plz

Thank you.I hae been trying to get info on my main nations deletion.so i see that you are supposed to get a warning,WHERE WAS MINE AND WHAT DID I DO WRONG.the rules you are speaking about were not followed on my case.explain plz

:?

eh?

Who are you? Who was YOUR main nation?

I just have to say that the rules change according to which mod is doing the governing.

We've all seen many people get multiple warnings, for flaming or trolling.
and yet..do not get deleted.

Ive never seen anyone get warned, and then six months later, get deleted for a minor offense, especially when there are existing threads in the same forum, with similar content.

This was clearly a rash decision, and as a weak exscuse for that decision, the fact that an earlier warning had been given OVER A HALF A YEAR EARLIER, was mentioned.

The offenses werent even related.

Forgive me, but this is a power trip.
This is a clear case of the mods desire to execute authoritive measures, and deletion, the only action.

A simple warning would have sufficed.

How many of us have these pre existing warnings?

No one should actively break the rules, but sometimes accidents happen, or tempers get flared in a heated debate.
How do we know if we are next?

Ive heard many people say that the mods are out of control, and normally I brush it aside as stupidity.
Right now, Im really wondering if that just may be the case.
The point is to attract people to this game, not chase all the regulars away, when they accidently lose thier heads for a moment.

You attract more flies with honey, than you do vinegar.

You attract more flies with honey, than you do vinegar.

I don't know if your analogy really works this time -- given that attacting flies is usually considered undesireable. I'll bet good hard cash that the mods aren't trying to attract flies!

(Please don't read this as supporting or attacking any comments made in this thread as I don't know enough to have an opinion. I was just amused by the image of people encouraging flies to participate in the forum.)

I'm still agitated that the could include a non-forum offense in my deletion. As well as stating that my motto contributed to that factor. It's pathetic.

Maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, but have they ever stated anywhere that any and all offenses commited over an indeifinite timeframe can contribute toward deletion? I've never been told this or seen it mentioned.

Maybe a system needs to be introduced so people don't do something which 'toes the line' when they know how close they are to 'the line'. I know some forums allow a warning meter under your username so you know how the mods think you're behaving. Perhaps soething like this would be appropriate so we know where we stand.

No,
I merely implied that the other events that mods are taking into consideration happened almost a year ago.
Further, that before she was deleted, she was given no warning.
If one was issued, then her actions would have changed immediately,or so I believe, as I have no reason to think she is lying.

My opinion is that this deletion was a bit rash, and a warning would have sufficed.

But why would there be a warning this time? What good would it achieve?

EXAMPLE
This is a warning... I am about to delete you...

There IS a warning, it's called the site rules.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a shame she was deleted for this, but to be honest, I think a LOT of people here would expect a warning for creating a thread that (literally by it's own definition) WAS spam.

just stopping by to mourn at BV`s grave. and while i do, id like to remind pet that coffee shops are probably considered spam too- and you and iki had the best one ever. hypocritic?

Retracted.

Looks like you didn't leave after all... :roll:

Cut the snide tone-of-voice. Now.

You will treat other players with respect.

Statement officially retracted. See here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151424).

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

What about making a sticky thread, with some sort of notification of those who are, or are not on alert?

I mean, for all I know...I might have a "warning" still pending on me right now.

But how am I to know?

It could be a mere list, updated every so often by the mods, wich tells the players if they are under "watch"..or should simply quit being a jerk.

Huh?

wtf, this is the biggest crock of shit ive heard in my life :roll:

Too true :lol:

wtf, this is the biggest crock of shit ive heard in my life :roll:

evidently you haven't lived then... :P

Hey your wife made a post a while ago. Freaky stuff. Was that real or not?

I would just like to say my nation was deleted 2 days ago i have asked repeatedly for a explaination.I still have none COME ON MODS GET THE FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

I would just like to say my nation was deleted 2 days ago i have asked repeatedly for a explaination.I still have none COME ON MODS GET THE FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
As was asked before, which nation of yours was deleted two days ago?

No,
I merely implied that the other events that mods are taking into consideration happened almost a year ago.
Further, that before she was deleted, she was given no warning.
If one was issued, then her actions would have changed immediately,or so I believe, as I have no reason to think she is lying.

My opinion is that this deletion was a bit rash, and a warning would have sufficed.

But why would there be a warning this time? What good would it achieve?

EXAMPLE
This is a warning... I am about to delete you...

There IS a warning, it's called the site rules.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a shame she was deleted for this, but to be honest, I think a LOT of people here would expect a warning for creating a thread that (literally by it's own definition) WAS spam.

just stopping by to mourn at BV`s grave. and while i do, id like to remind pet that coffee shops are probably considered spam too- and you and iki had the best one ever. hypocritic?

No ruling was ever made by the Mods that they were Spam. HAD a ruling been made, then I would have stopped making them. :roll:

BV made a thread that was even titled Spam and more to come.... and then filled it with nonsense. Even she hasn't argued that it wasn't spam.

I would just like to say my nation was deleted 2 days ago i have asked repeatedly for a explaination.I still have none COME ON MODS GET THE FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Has that approach EVER worked??

I'm still agitated that the could include a non-forum offense in my deletion. As well as stating that my motto contributed to that factor. It's pathetic.

Maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, but have they ever stated anywhere that any and all offenses commited over an indeifinite timeframe can contribute toward deletion? I've never been told this or seen it mentioned.

Maybe a system needs to be introduced so people don't do something which 'toes the line' when they know how close they are to 'the line'. I know some forums allow a warning meter under your username so you know how the mods think you're behaving. Perhaps soething like this would be appropriate so we know where we stand.

um yeah.. they have.. ALL of the time.

They say that you get ONE warning, THEN deletion.... that's it. They don't say 'you get one warning every 6 months'.

Let me ask you this... do you deny UN Multying?

Do you deny that your post was spam, pure and simple?

If the answer to both these is no, then just move on and give it up.

I would just like to say my nation was deleted 2 days ago i have asked repeatedly for a explaination.I still have none COME ON MODS GET THE FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
As was asked before, which nation of yours was deleted two days ago?FIFEKIRKALDY

What about making a sticky thread, with some sort of notification of those who are, or are not on alert?

I mean, for all I know...I might have a "warning" still pending on me right now.

But how am I to know?

It could be a mere list, updated every so often by the mods, wich tells the players if they are under "watch"..or should simply quit being a jerk.

Huh?

Whilst at first glance, that seems sensible.. it does lend itself to the idea that it's ok to break the rules once....

A better idea, is just don't break the rules at all!

I would just like to say my nation was deleted 2 days ago i have asked repeatedly for a explaination.I still have none COME ON MODS GET THE FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

"Patience is a virtue."

I would just like to say my nation was deleted 2 days ago i have asked repeatedly for a explaination.I still have none COME ON MODS GET THE FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
As was asked before, which nation of yours was deleted two days ago?FIFEKIRKALDY

As stated previously,

Warned: deleted for codemonkeying (#11722) (06 JUN 04)

I would just like to say my nation was deleted 2 days ago i have asked repeatedly for a explaination.I still have none COME ON MODS GET THE FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
As was asked before, which nation of yours was deleted two days ago?FIFEKIRKALDY

As stated previously,

Warned: deleted for codemonkeying (#11722) (06 JUN 04)AS STATED BEFORE WHAT THE HELL IS CODEMONKEYING YOU NEVER ANSWERED ME THE LAST TIME :oops:

AS STATED BEFORE WHAT THE HELL IS CODEMONKEYING YOU NEVER ANSWERED ME THE LAST TIME :oops:

No, it was. Now stop hijacking and posting in all caps, or you'll lose this one too.

So there's no hope for me? I don't expect to get my nation back, but I'd like to know atleast if all those reasons given to me were well founded. It seems that one I'd been deleted, everyone kept piling more reasons on top just for the fun of it. I never saw the harm in my motto.

Yeah, real good way to get people to come here guys.

AS STATED BEFORE WHAT THE HELL IS CODEMONKEYING YOU NEVER ANSWERED ME THE LAST TIME :oops:

No, it was. Now stop hijacking and posting in all caps, or you'll lose this one too.Can you please tell me what codemonkeying is.i do not know what it is.

Codemonkeying is messing about with phpBB tags to distort the appearance of the forums.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

which reppy also explained in this thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151050)

Codemonkeying is messing about with phpBB tags to distort the appearance of the forums.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Souds technical. How could he do that?

Codemonkeying is messing about with phpBB tags to distort the appearance of the forums.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Souds technical. How could he do that?

he purposely screwed up the quote tags

just stopping by to mourn at BV`s grave. and while i do, id like to remind pet that coffee shops are probably considered spam too- and you and iki had the best one ever. hypocritic?

Coffee shops/ bars/ chat are not considered spam; when word games/ spam threads were banned, chat threads were specifically stated to be OK. granted they have a lot of nonsense in them sometimes, but they are a little more structured...


No ruling was ever made by the Mods that they were Spam. HAD a ruling been made, then I would have stopped making them. :roll:

BV made a thread that was even titled Spam and more to come.... and then filled it with nonsense. Even she hasn't argued that it wasn't spam.

no, that wasn't in dispute. but i think she, not unnaturally, didn't realise her thread would cause her deletion when her first offence was totally unrelated to posting, or spam, or forums altogether. she'd have got the message with a lock and a warning.

no, that wasn't in dispute. but i think she, not unnaturally, didn't realise her thread would cause her deletion when her first offence was totally unrelated to posting, or spam, or forums altogether. she'd have got the message with a lock and a warning.

I understand your point of view, and I am sorry it happened to Viper but... the mods are already fairly swamped all the time dealing with all kinds of crap -- much of it less light-hearted and more mean spirited perhaps than what Viper did. If they had to maintain a thread of who was on warning, that would take MORE time. Then there would be the arguments about what people are on warning for, whether they are warning worthy, etc. There would be some people demanding their "crimes" be made public and others pissed that the NS world knows what they did wrong. I think the kind of warning thread you suggest would be a nightmare for them to maintain.

I think this is also a reaction on the mods' part, and quite a human one, I might add, to the endless warnings they have given to some players in the past and the thanks they got for cutting them slack (which is to say, more behavior of the type they had warned against). We all know a number of players, no longer with us, who seemed to wreak havoc on a fairly regular basis on the strength of their popularity. That practice had to be stopped as it was patently unfair to the rest of NS -- and so they moved to the one warning practice.

However, they do TG people when they've been warned... that would be my signal to keep my nose clean.

But surely, being deleted for an unrelated incident to the warning you recieved six months ago.....is a little extreme.
This is why courts have statute of limitations...
Six months is a long time to get deleted without being asked to cease, or given an opportunity to cease the newest offence.

The mods were too rash on this one, used a hammer to swat flies, and just wont give in.

and sadly, this is a part of the reason that many people are moving away from this game.

But surely, being deleted for an unrelated incident to the warning you recieved six months ago.....is a little extreme.
This is why courts have statute of limitations...
Six months is a long time to get deleted without being asked to cease, or given an opportunity to cease the newest offence.

The mods were too rash on this one, used a hammer to swat flies, and just wont give in.

and sadly, this is a part of the reason that many people are moving away from this game.

I thought the US courts had a three strike policy? Is there a time limit on this?

You're over exaggerating. Six months is not too long, and BV hasn't been forum banned or IP Banned.

But surely, being deleted for an unrelated incident to the warning you recieved six months ago.....is a little extreme.
This is why courts have statute of limitations...
Six months is a long time to get deleted without being asked to cease, or given an opportunity to cease the newest offence.



That's great and all for the US, but as this is a private website, we are not bound by that. We have no "statute of limitations" as it were. Our system is very simple. 2 strikes, and you are out. That is how things work here. If you have a problem with this, email admin@nationstates.net, as complaining to the mods will accomplish nothing. We have guidelines to follow, and until those change, we will continue doing business as we have been.

Our system is very simple. 2 strikes, and you are out. That is how things work here. If you have a problem with this, email admin@nationstates.net, as complaining to the mods will accomplish nothing. We have guidelines to follow, and until those change, we will continue doing business as we have been.

That system doesn't make it more fun. If I had to pay for this game, I surely would protest this. With systems like this one, people tend to care less and less about the deletion of a nation. They end up playing puppets, and create a new one when the previous is deleted. Six months playing without braking any rules must be worth something. You can't force people to play by the rules, when you make sure that the'll never be able to come clean, after one transgression,

The Blue Viper broke the rules not once, but twice. The spam thread, and the inappropriate motto. Each on its own merits a warning. The two together, given that nation's history, warranted a deletion.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

That system doesn't make it more fun.

The purpose of the system is to enforce rules.

If I had to pay for this game, I surely would protest this.

You don't, and yet you still are...

With systems like this one, people tend to care less and less about the deletion of a nation. They end up playing puppets, and create a new one when the previous is deleted.

That's why we have increasingly punative measures.

You can't force people to play by the rules, when you make sure that the'll never be able to come clean, after one transgression,

It's our fault that people are unwilling to follow simple rules? That player managed to go six months without breaking them, so they can't be all that complicated.

That player managed to go six months without breaking them, so they can't be all that complicated.

He sure did. And then he got deleted. Wait a sec!

Wasn't that the point you were trying to defend? :roll:

That player managed to go six months without breaking them, so they can't be all that complicated.

He sure did. And then he got deleted.

Because he decided to cease following the rules.

That player managed to go six months without breaking them, so they can't be all that complicated.

He sure did. And then he got deleted.

Because he decided to cease following the rules.

no one is perfect :cry:

* Looks a bit pale.

Uh-huh. Excuse me, how long has it been two strikes and off with your head ? I always thought it was three ... Any way to find out if I've had one of those big black marks put aside my name,

* Goes further pale,

Cause if I remember, the telegram inbox can get full, and if it were you could not get more telegrams, why then could it not be that a moderation telegram may not get through ? Aggg, frightening possibilities.

So, any way moderation could T.G. me as to if I have any warnings stacked up ? Meeep. Other-wise, could you tell me how to formally request such data, is it a getting help page matter ?

( A mildly more then usual confused )

- T.R. Kom.

The TG box cannot become "full." It will simply start dumping your oldest telegram as you get new ones. You do not have any warnings currently.

Thanks for that Karmabaijan ! I was feeling all paranoid, :wink:

- T.R. Kom
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Ministre Régional de Substance.
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<- Not A Moderator, Just A Know It All.
" Clowns To The Left of Me ... Jokers To The Right, Here I am ... "

That player managed to go six months without breaking them, so they can't be all that complicated.

He sure did. And then he got deleted.

Because he decided to cease following the rules.

Someone missed my point.

...

Guess I did too then ...

Well, if my motto was so offensive, why wasn't I previously warned?