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oh god no! :cry:

*resigns himself to a nationstates experience full of political and religious debates and rp, which he cannot join*

*resigns himself to a nationstates experience full of political and religious debates and rp, which he cannot join*
Alas, that is what this game is intended for. :wink:

*resigns himself to a nationstates experience full of political and religious debates and rp, which he cannot join*
Alas, that is what this game is intended for. :wink:

NS is now no fun at all :evil:

*resigns himself to a nationstates experience full of political and religious debates and rp, which he cannot join*
Alas, that is what this game is intended for. :wink:

NS is now no fun at all :evil:

Hear, hear. :cry:

well...this seems pretty lame...but if the servers run better great, if not you guys are just abusing your power IMO.

What exactly is a word game?

What exactly is a word game?
What you just did...

Watch out! You're gonna get deleted!

This sounds like what would have been a good topic in forum 7. I think the mods should move it there.... oh... wait... THEY KILLED FORUM 7!!!
Actually I for one think they did the right thing... I come on the forums one day and find that thing there... So I'm thinking "wtf?"

What is the point of that forum and how did someone manage to make it with the stringent rules and regulations of the current regime?

And then the most important question... Why make a forum that is basically the exact equivelent of general.

God i think amerigo is still a mod in disguise... the point of making it is that someone was allowed and had the ability and desire to make it. these are here for our enjoyment, which is what everyone seems to be losing sight of.

Seriously..... why don't we just create a new forum 7? Like, turn general into forum 7.... if we all do it at once they wont deat all thousand (or so i cant count) of us..............................................

if we all do it at once they wont deat all thousand (or so i cant count) of us..............................................
they will...
they get newbies everyday....
you still don't understand how this system works.
individuality is crushed by the garish wheels of the machine.

God i think amerigo is still a mod in disguise... the point of making it is that someone was allowed and had the ability and desire to make it. these are here for our enjoyment, which is what everyone seems to be losing sight of.

OR AM I?

Instead of making a Forum 7, they should have just loosened the rules for General...

Oh, believe me I do know how the system works, personally know how the system works. Nazi b... I won't go there... I just try to hope sometimes, you know.

Oh, believe me I do know how the system works, personally know how the system works. Nazi b... I won't go there... I just try to hope sometimes, you know.
well you seem to have too much optimism just give in to complete disillusionment. Government of all sorts is not created for the people, it is created to "protect" the people from themselves. It is the opposing force to anarchy. However, we humans inherently hate anarchy, so for this reason we form primitive governments which grow and develop until they become sprawling and intricate as governments today.

However, we humans inherently hate anarchy, so for this reason we form primitive governments which grow and develop until they become sprawling and intricate as governments today.

Only some humans, I would be perfectly content in anarchy.

This sounds like what would have been a good topic in forum 7. I think the mods should move it there.... oh... wait... THEY KILLED FORUM 7!!!
Actually I for one think they did the right thing... I come on the forums one day and find that thing there... So I'm thinking "wtf?"

What is the point of that forum and how did someone manage to make it with the stringent rules and regulations of the current regime?

And then the most important question... Why make a forum that is basically the exact equivelent of general.

Amerigo- Forum 7 was part of the April Fools day gag, since the so-called moderator conspiracies all point to some OMG SECRET! "Forum #7". It was sorta a goofy forum that just turned into spam and server strain.

Oh, believe me I do know how the system works, personally know how the system works. Nazi b... I won't go there... I just try to hope sometimes, you know.
well you seem to have too much optimism just give in to complete disillusionment. Government of all sorts is not created for the people, it is created to "protect" the people from themselves. It is the opposing force to anarchy. However, we humans inherently hate anarchy, so for this reason we form primitive governments which grow and develop until they become sprawling and intricate as governments today.

Only some humans, I would be perfectly content in anarchy.

Ah yes... well so you say now... However, if you were a part of a pure and true anarchy... you would not thinks so. Since, for example an aggresor decides to steal your things, you would obviously retaliate, mayhaps phsyically. The other would then thus ally himself with others and form a primitive tribe gang or group... Then they get over there and try and steal your stuff again, this time theres more of them. So then you are forced to stick with others... friends comrades... and thus a primitive government is formed. It will continue to complicate itself...

I';d go into this further but I think we've hijacked this sticky far enough and besides I ought to walk my dog.

As quickly as I showed up I disappear again... who knows when I shall be back!

Goodbye!

This sounds like what would have been a good topic in forum 7. I think the mods should move it there.... oh... wait... THEY KILLED FORUM 7!!!
Actually I for one think they did the right thing... I come on the forums one day and find that thing there... So I'm thinking "wtf?"

What is the point of that forum and how did someone manage to make it with the stringent rules and regulations of the current regime?

And then the most important question... Why make a forum that is basically the exact equivelent of general.

Amerigo- Forum 7 was part of the April Fools day gag, since the so-called moderator conspiracies all point to some OMG SECRET! "Forum #7". It was sorta a goofy forum that just turned into spam and server strain.
Ah that explains it...
Thanks for that.

I knew its pointlessness when I first looked at it.

Good job deleting it.

No sarcasm, pure sincerity... Thats why I don't get along with many people... I'm too moderate politically... On some issues i'm the anti-control/government liberal on the other issues I'm conservative...
On some I'm just moderate...
Can't agree with anyone completely politically. O well I ramble.
Nice seeing your still mod Reploid.

It is official, all word games of any sort will be, and are being, deleted on sight.

Word games are a mild form of spam which we have been ready to tolerate in the past, however, they are a parasitic drain on forum resources, and are being removed as part of our crackdown on what has sometimes been termed Spam Lite.

We recognise that NationStates is a light-hearted political game, but just because this forum is called General, does not mean that all forms of silliness are permitted.

Players are therefore requested not to create any more word game threads. Any which we find will be deleted without malice. However, players which continue to create them after this fact being made clear, may attract penalties under the established spamming rules.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Any chance of an explanation?

No rudeness intended.

Its a drain on resources.

Will this ruling be removed at Jolt?

My Announcement is the explanation.

What I find ironic is that I have just split a page of spam from my policy announcement on spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

When we move to Jolt and the resource drain is less of a problem, will the ruling be removed? Just wondered :lol:

My Announcement is the explanation.

What I find ironic is that I have just split a page of spam from my policy announcement on spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
I'm sorry, but I'm relating this to John Kerry's explanation to a random voting citizen of "who exactly these forgein leaders who wanted Bush out were."

I'm for your action here, but that was over the line.

Yes, I'm speaking as a regular member of NS to a mod, that shouldn't be a factor right?

I'm sorry, but I'm relating this to John Kerry's explanation to a random voting citizen of "who exactly these forgein leaders who wanted Bush out were."

I'm for your action here, but that was over the line.

Yes, I'm speaking as a regular member of NS to a mod, that shouldn't be a factor right?
I cannot do anything other than repeat myself.

Word games are a parasitic phenomenon, having no connection to NationStates, and exerting a burden on its resources. Their triviality makes them an obvious target in any spam crackdown.

There is nothing more to be said, as there is nothing more to it. It was a simple decision: word games = spam = toast.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

I'm sorry, but I'm relating this to John Kerry's explanation to a random voting citizen of "who exactly these forgein leaders who wanted Bush out were."

I'm for your action here, but that was over the line.

Yes, I'm speaking as a regular member of NS to a mod, that shouldn't be a factor right?
I cannot do anything other than repeat myself.

Word games are a parasitic phenomenon, having no connection to NationStates, and exerting a burden on its resources. Their triviality makes them an obvious target in any spam crackdown.

There is nothing more to be said, as there is nothing more to it. It was a simple decision: word games = spam = toast.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

but jolt can obviously handle it, as they have their own spam forum, and i heard max wont pay anything, so will the ruling be reversed upon arrival to jolt?

I asked that twice and seemed to get ignored. I wonder though..

I'm sorry, but I'm relating this to John Kerry's explanation to a random voting citizen of "who exactly these forgein leaders who wanted Bush out were."

I'm for your action here, but that was over the line.

Yes, I'm speaking as a regular member of NS to a mod, that shouldn't be a factor right?
I cannot do anything other than repeat myself.

Word games are a parasitic phenomenon, having no connection to NationStates, and exerting a burden on its resources. Their triviality makes them an obvious target in any spam crackdown.

There is nothing more to be said, as there is nothing more to it. It was a simple decision: word games = spam = toast.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

but jolt can obviously handle it, as they have their own spam forum, and i heard max wont pay anything, so will the ruling be reversed upon arrival to jolt?

Nogt with the sort of mods who prefer us to post threads like "Donnie Darko was a really good film" and "my gerbil's just had babies" ... and insightful political comment like "Bush sucks"

I mean, we wouldn't want to snarl up the server so much that this sort of meaningful observation can't be made ... :evil:

Hooray! Thankyou for getting rid of those horrible games. Absolutely terrible they were.

we at least want some form of non-vague answer :)

but jolt can obviously handle it, as they have their own spam forum, and i heard max wont pay anything, so will the ruling be reversed upon arrival to jolt?
The ruling is extremely unlikely to be reversed. They have a spam forum, but as I understand it, it is pruned quite ruthlessly. In view of the fact that we have double the user base and as many threads as them, I would not bet too much on cornucopian ideals. We will want to minimise spam. Another thing which should be possible is toggling postcount incrementation in selected forums. I am sure you can imagine the applications.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

but jolt can obviously handle it, as they have their own spam forum, and i heard max wont pay anything, so will the ruling be reversed upon arrival to jolt?
The ruling is extremely unlikely to be reversed. They have a spam forum, but as I understand it, it is pruned quite ruthlessly. In view of the fact that we have double the user base and as many threads as them, I would not bet too much on cornucopian ideals. We will want to minimise spam. Another thing which should be possible is toggling postcount incrementation in selected forums. I am sure you can imagine the applications.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

wt? why would you prune a spam forum except for flooding and rule-breaking posts?

As mods are replying to this thread, could we have a quick statement on what are the rules regarding discussion threads. General discussion threads that is.

dump general! most of the threads here are worse than spam :?

dump general! most of the threads here are worse than spam :?
Hey, no. There'd be no forum for people who want to discuss RL isues and not RP.

dump general! most of the threads here are worse than spam :?
Hey, no. There'd be no forum for people who want to discuss RL isues and not RP.
then rename general, and impose stricter rules on it :?

then rename general, and impose stricter rules on it :?

Which the mods have done (apart from rename it).

I'm sorry, but I'm relating this to John Kerry's explanation to a random voting citizen of "who exactly these forgein leaders who wanted Bush out were."

I'm for your action here, but that was over the line.

Yes, I'm speaking as a regular member of NS to a mod, that shouldn't be a factor right?
I cannot do anything other than repeat myself.

Word games are a parasitic phenomenon, having no connection to NationStates, and exerting a burden on its resources. Their triviality makes them an obvious target in any spam crackdown.

There is nothing more to be said, as there is nothing more to it. It was a simple decision: word games = spam = toast.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

But why now? Word games have been around for ages - why suddenly ban them now, on the move to a much faster, much more tolerable server?

I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense. Fine, word-games are a strain on the forum. What, did you guys just figure that out now? They have been allowed to live before. What has invoked such a decision?

But why now? Word games have been around for ages - why suddenly ban them now, on the move to a much faster, much more tolerable server?

I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense. Fine, word-games are a strain on the forum. What, did you guys just figure that out now? They have been allowed to live before. What has invoked such a decision?

Perhaps it's to cut down on the amount of posts that will be posted on Jolt, so that that server will last longer?!

But why now? Word games have been around for ages - why suddenly ban them now, on the move to a much faster, much more tolerable server?

I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense. Fine, word-games are a strain on the forum. What, did you guys just figure that out now? They have been allowed to live before. What has invoked such a decision?

Perhaps it's to cut down on the amount of posts that will be posted on Jolt, so that that server will last longer?!

dude, NS jolt will be spread across several servers, all of which are better than the current single NS server

Word games are a nuisance. They are a waste of server resources. They have nothing to do with NS. I have explained this before, it is also explained at length in the General Forum. They should have been banned much earlier, in my opinion, but we didn't get around to it. We have now.

Jolt might have better servers, but that is no argument to allow spam onto the forums. The General Forum is better off without spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Word games are a nuisance. They are a waste of server resources. They have nothing to do with NS. I have explained this before, it is also explained at length in the General Forum. They should have been banned much earlier, in my opinion, but we didn't get around to it. We have now.

Jolt might have better servers, but that is no argument to allow spam onto the forums. The General Forum is better off without spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

We have an answer! Now whats the chance this will be split as spam?

Sorry, but I just can't believe that "you never got round to it". Ok, it would take time to purge the forums (I think) of all word games, but how long does it take to create an announcement saying "No word games"?

:?

Word games are a nuisance. They are a waste of server resources. They have nothing to do with NS. I have explained this before, it is also explained at length in the General Forum. They should have been banned much earlier, in my opinion, but we didn't get around to it. We have now.

Jolt might have better servers, but that is no argument to allow spam onto the forums. The General Forum is better off without spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

How about my question regarding the discussion threads?!

How about my question regarding the discussion threads?!
They're OK, as long as they are discussion and not post-whoring. Post-whoring gets split and deleted. Nothing new there actually, only this time we will be enforcing it.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

What exactly is a word game?
What you just did...

Watch out! You're gonna get deleted!

So basically when you post something dumb to get a +1?

They're OK, as long as they are discussion and not post-whoring. Post-whoring gets split and deleted. Nothing new there actually, only this time we will be enforcing it.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

So, wwhat would you class as post-whoring and not discussing? So I don't get it wrong...

Great, thanks.
Now if only we can move or remove the "Temple to the Mods, Magic Powers"
spam as well.

Great, thanks.
Now if only we can move or remove the "Temple to the Mods, Magic Powers"
spam as well.

get real. there were only two of those threads :x

get real. there were only two of those threads :x

But, they are temples of heresy and cardinal sin! :wink: :lol:

Great, thanks.
Now if only we can move or remove the "Temple to the Mods, Magic Powers"
spam as well.

That thread is long dead.

In fact it was archived, it was so popular (amongst the players and the mods).

I believe you know this, and you are having a go at flamebait. Don't.

I believe you know this, and you are having a go at flamebait. Don't.

He's just done this sort of thing in another thread. Perhaps he's in a bad mood.

He's just done this sort of thing in another thread. Perhaps he's in a bad mood.

I've noticed him doing it before. Perhaps he is just a bad person. Now before this gets split...

Mods

Where do you stand in regards to cafe type threads, such as those that Ikitiok and Petworthia had?

I believe you know this, and you are having a go at flamebait. Don't.

He's just done this sort of thing in another thread. Perhaps he's in a bad mood.

No, not done as flamebait.
I just believe that Nation States was set up for political role play and discussion. Apologies to those I may have offended.

Where do you stand in regards to cafe type threads, such as those that Ikitiok and Petworthia had?

Surely they would come under discussion which means that they are allowed.

Where do you stand in regards to cafe type threads, such as those that Ikitiok and Petworthia had?
I believe that Rep's original Ruling Announcement still stands.

CE, post-whoring is posting content-light stuff to increment your postcount. As with so many things, it is a question of judgement. The vast majority of people have good judgement when it comes to these things. I wouldn't worry about it.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

I believe you know this, and you are having a go at flamebait. Don't.

He's just done this sort of thing in another thread. Perhaps he's in a bad mood.

No, not done as flamebait.
I just believe that Nation States was set up for political role play and discussion. Apologies to those I may have offended.

well ns has the invasion phenomenon, and no-one planned for that, face it, Ns has grown past anyones expectations or control

CE, post-whoring is posting content-light stuff to increment your postcount. As with so many things, it is a question of judgement. The vast majority of people have good judgement when it comes to these things. I wouldn't worry about it.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Okay. I take it as fact then that posting things such as emoticons (and only emoticons) is not allowed.

*is beginning to think that the mods are turning into John Nike-alikes*

now, no offense intended but this is getting ridiculous.

It appears to me as if the nationstates moderators, are pretty much limiting us to either
a) Role playing, which gets to impractical when you are my size and nobody of any size wants to do anything because they know it will be to devastating blow if they lose a war and the costs
b) ridiclous repetitive debates, which in most cases do not appluy. 99% of debates are about either i) American foreign policy, ii) gays and other sexual matters or iii) religion... or a combination of the 3 :roll:

anyway, my point is that there are people here who really have better things to tyalk about than these debates and are experience enough taht rping becomes boring (i am not pressing my rp ability, it just becomes impracticle). we just want a place where we can hang out. im sure that when you goto jolt, even if you did eliminate the post count on our types of threads many of us will still use them.

Great Move...while we're at it...let's sticky

1 Pro/Anti Bush thread
1 Pro/anti Religion thread
1 Pro/Anti Gay thread

and disallow posting all the same...there's nothing new to be said anyway. And since most types of RP conflicts have also already been played, let's close the RP sections too...

Hey..why don't we just close the entire game? It's just wasting server space that could be used for better ends...like hosting pics of the World Championship clogdancing...

[/sarcasm]

Great Move...while we're at it...let's sticky

1 Pro/Anti Bush thread
1 Pro/anti Religion thread
1 Pro/Anti Gay thread

and disallow posting all the same...there's nothing new to be said anyway. And since most types of RP conflicts have also already been played, let's close the RP sections too...

Hey..why don't we just close the entire game? It's just wasting server space that could be used for better ends...like hosting pics of the World Championship clogdancing...

[/sarcasm]good point. we only need 1 of each debate type.

Word games are a nuisance. They are a waste of server resources. They have nothing to do with NS. I have explained this before, it is also explained at length in the General Forum. They should have been banned much earlier, in my opinion, but we didn't get around to it. We have now.

Jolt might have better servers, but that is no argument to allow spam onto the forums. The General Forum is better off without spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

We have an answer! Now whats the chance this will be split as spam?

Sorry, but I just can't believe that "you never got round to it". Ok, it would take time to purge the forums (I think) of all word games, but how long does it take to create an announcement saying "No word games"?

:?

Hmm, now why didn't that get a reply :roll:

Ridiculous...

Word games are a nuisance. They are a waste of server resources. They have nothing to do with NS. I have explained this before, it is also explained at length in the General Forum. They should have been banned much earlier, in my opinion, but we didn't get around to it. We have now.

Jolt might have better servers, but that is no argument to allow spam onto the forums. The General Forum is better off without spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

We have an answer! Now whats the chance this will be split as spam?

Sorry, but I just can't believe that "you never got round to it". Ok, it would take time to purge the forums (I think) of all word games, but how long does it take to create an announcement saying "No word games"?

:?

Hmm, now why didn't that get a reply :roll:

Ridiculous...dont push the boundaries dogs. we dont want anymore trouble.... lets not act irrationally...irrationall... irrattional...
*runs around screaming*

The bottom line is, you are annoyed because this will affect your postcounts and your opportunities to increase them. Not because you are missing out on the opportunity to say something of value, but because you are losing a status symbol. That argument wins little sympathy from me. You've had your fun. Now please go and do something constructive.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

The bottom line is, you are annoyed because this will affect your postcounts and your opportunities to increase them. Not because you are missing out on the opportunity to say something of value, but because you are losing a status symbol. That argument wins little sympathy from me. You've had your fun. Now please go and do something constructive.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

then disable postcounts? :?

The bottom line is, you are annoyed because this will affect your postcounts and your opportunities to increase them. Not because you are missing out on the opportunity to say something of value, but because you are losing a status symbol. That argument wins little sympathy from me. You've had your fun. Now please go and do something constructive.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

then disable postcounts? :?yes... i would still speak to the same people in the same threads even if postcounts were disabled.

The bottom line is, you are annoyed because this will affect your postcounts and your opportunities to increase them. Not because you are missing out on the opportunity to say something of value, but because you are losing a status symbol. That argument wins little sympathy from me. You've had your fun. Now please go and do something constructive.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

No, we are annoyed because you are taking away our pass-time... I couldn't care less about my post-count.

The bottom line is, you are annoyed because this will affect your postcounts and your opportunities to increase them. Not because you are missing out on the opportunity to say something of value, but because you are losing a status symbol. That argument wins little sympathy from me. You've had your fun. Now please go and do something constructive.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

you do realize we are pitering our time away on an internet forum site?

I asked...

Word games are a nuisance. They are a waste of server resources. They have nothing to do with NS. I have explained this before, it is also explained at length in the General Forum. They should have been banned much earlier, in my opinion, but we didn't get around to it. We have now.

Jolt might have better servers, but that is no argument to allow spam onto the forums. The General Forum is better off without spam.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

We have an answer! Now whats the chance this will be split as spam?

Sorry, but I just can't believe that "you never got round to it". Ok, it would take time to purge the forums (I think) of all word games, but how long does it take to create an announcement saying "No word games"?

:?


TG replied...

The bottom line is, you are annoyed because this will affect your postcounts and your opportunities to increase them. Not because you are missing out on the opportunity to say something of value, but because you are losing a status symbol. That argument wins little sympathy from me. You've had your fun. Now please go and do something constructive.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Firstly, WRONG! I do care about my post-count, but the reason I was annoyed is that I quite liked those word-games. They were funny, and quite frankly, a lot more interesting than Pro/Anti Bush Debates.

I got more annoyed by the answers you have given me. I think you have treated me like an idiotic twelve-year-old and use your Moderator status to show that you are smarter/more correct than me.

Not because you are missing out on the opportunity to say something of value, but because you are losing a status symbol.

I find that quite rude - assuming you no little to nothing about me besides what sort of threads I post in.

You've had your fun. Now please go and do something constructive.

That was clearly dismissive. I see no need to resort to such comments, and believe we can settle this argument if we are polite and honest to eachother.

The fact is, the only answer I have gotten so far is "We never got round to it" which I do not believe.

I ask again - is the banning of word games preparation for the move to Jolt?


P.s


Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

What is that, but a status symbol?

NS was made for a reason in addition to it being a nifty marketing ploy.

That reason was to examine and debate international relations, politics, nationalism, and the roleplay thereof, hence the name. NationStates. It has a particular set of topics that are deemed appropriate, like the above, and a particular set of topics that are deemed inappropriate, like word games.

We were willing to let it slide before. Now we have to triage the servers. In our leniency we never enforced rules that we should have. The tension has finally snapped, the pendulum must swing the other way. In this aspect we failed; one of the most important parts of moderation is that it be consistent. Thus, it is most probable that word-games are banned forever.

However, we are still performing our duties and still keeping within the purpose of this site. If that makes it less fun for some, then nothing prevents those who prefer word games or chats from coordinating with their friends and forming their own boards or making their own chat rooms. If they like doing things that are not appropriate for our forums, then they can make or find places that are appropriate.

I don't really want to use the water-slide analogy again, but it remains relevant. The people who establish and maintain the site are allowed to determine what goes on inside it because they have expended time and energy and money into it. It may be fun to climb up the water-slide, but the owners and those the owners appointed to enforce the rules say it isn't allowed. If someone does, they get thrown out. It happens every day, and the exact same logic applies here.

Nothing prevents anyone from having fun. Whether that fun be here or not is another story altogether.

Scolo the Senior Game Mod
A status symbol is a new Ferrari.
A symbol of authority is a police badge.

This isn't really an objection; yes, General can easily do without the word-games.

I love word games, they're great fun. I did NOT play them to increase my post-count, i played them for laughs.

For those of us who've been here ages, they were starting to get repetitive - though presumably for new folk they still appeared novel. But they seemed to be on the increase - there really were hundreds of them. So far so good although i'm not sure banning them will really reduce spam that much - folk will still post spam, just elsewhere.

As the Mods pointed the word games have nothing to do with Nationstates.
I'm concerned that, worryingly, you could say that about most of the threads in General... don't take away ALL our fun... :(

I really believe the freedom that General allows, in terms of lack of rules, is very important for people like me who had never used internet forums before, who had never encountered RP - it allows us to get more involved in the game, whil being a relaxed place to learn.

And to be honest i still scarcely dare venture into the Nationstates forums proper, because the rules are so strict (as they should be) :P

Scolo the Senior Game Mod
A status symbol is a new Ferrari.
A symbol of authority is a police badge.

You're symbol of authority lies underneath your name.

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Well, there is the whole "Debate about anything and everything" subtitle to General. Reasonable, rational debate is always welcome, even if it's about favorite colors and why. The and why is important or else it becomes "I like Blue." "Red." "No, blue." "No, red is better!" And so on and so forth in simple contradiction, which is not debate or even the sharing of understanding. While word games are out, there are many other things which are still perfectly appropriate.

We're also still allowing chat threads, so that allows for some sort of interaction that is not necessarily on-topic.

Well, there is the whole "Debate about anything and everything" subtitle to General. Reasonable, rational debate is always welcome, even if it's about favorite colors and why. The and why is important or else it becomes "I like Blue." "Red." "No, blue." "No, red is better!" And so on and so forth in simple contradiction, which is not debate or even the sharing of understanding. While word games are out, there are many other things which are still perfectly appropriate.

We're also still allowing chat threads, so that allows for some sort of interaction that is not necessarily on-topic.so, do chat threads include:
cafes/bars (though not inexcess)
a single active temple (or thereabouts)
novelty threads (ie, the type that might last a few nights but no more)

Well, there is the whole "Debate about anything and everything" subtitle to General. Reasonable, rational debate is always welcome, even if it's about favorite colors and why. The and why is important or else it becomes "I like Blue." "Red." "No, blue." "No, red is better!" And so on and so forth in simple contradiction, which is not debate or even the sharing of understanding. While word games are out, there are many other things which are still perfectly appropriate.

We're also still allowing chat threads, so that allows for some sort of interaction that is not necessarily on-topic.

So can i have a 'Do you like word-games and why' thread, then?
:P That's just a joke... I take your point about needing threads containing proper discussion (if only more folk would apply their imagination instead of starting threads like 'I'm bored').

so i would support Lapse's question here - what defines a 'chat' thread?

well...this seems pretty lame...but if the servers run better great, if not you guys are just abusing your power IMO.

But we go onto Jolt soon where it would have gone very well regardless of all this purging etc.

So the simple question to sum all of this up is...

Once NS is moved onto Jolt will we be allowed to have word games again :?:

So the simple question to sum all of this up is...

Once NS is moved onto Jolt will we be allowed to have word games again :?:
Extremely unlikely. Spam is spam, even on a higher capacity server.

As to the earlier question, my interpretation of acceptable chat is the "How was your day?" [Reply] sort, rather than the *throws pie* *throws nuke* *dies* [eBaum's World picture] OMG look at our postcounts! sort. We have nothing against social interaction, so long as it does not consist of tens of pages of meaningless monosyllabic excuses to increase postcount.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

TG, what if we create a topic such as...

"Mall Fight! Grab anything you'd find in a mall and fight!"

Now...that's not spam is it? It's simple Role Play!

TG, what if we create a topic such as...

"Mall Fight! Grab anything you'd find in a mall and fight!"

Now...that's not spam is it? It's simple Role Play!

Talk about splitting hairs...

TG, what if we create a topic such as...

"Mall Fight! Grab anything you'd find in a mall and fight!"

Now...that's not spam is it? It's simple Role Play!yes, along the same lines, the wharf, where we use witty fish names to attack each other.

TG, what if we create a topic such as...

"Mall Fight! Grab anything you'd find in a mall and fight!"

Now...that's not spam is it? It's simple Role Play!yes, along the same lines, the wharf, where we use witty fish names to attack each other.

:lol:

see, that's the kind of word game i liked - where some actual thinking , some application of imagination and wit was required.

Granted, the majority didn't. :|

As to the earlier question, my interpretation of acceptable chat is the "How was your day?" [Reply] sort, rather than the *throws pie* *throws nuke* *dies* [eBaum's World picture] OMG look at our postcounts! sort. We have nothing against social interaction, so long as it does not consist of tens of pages of meaningless monosyllabic excuses to increase postcount.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Well, can we at least stop the purging. I'm sure that enough has been done and we've certainely all lost a lot of posts. How about you purge some of the dead RP's. Lord knows they take up a lot of space!

But you won't do that, will you. You'll carry on pruging General

As to the earlier question, my interpretation of acceptable chat is the "How was your day?" [Reply] sort, rather than the *throws pie* *throws nuke* *dies* [eBaum's World picture] OMG look at our postcounts! sort. We have nothing against social interaction, so long as it does not consist of tens of pages of meaningless monosyllabic excuses to increase postcount.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Well, can we at least stop the purging. I'm sure that enough has been done and we've certainely all lost a lot of posts. How about you purge some of the dead RP's. Lord knows they take up a lot of space!

But you won't do that, will you. You'll carry on purging General

hoooooly shit! you are losing posts faster than me 0_o o_0

hoooooly shit! you are losing posts faster than me 0_o o_0

Well, I have a lot more to lose!

hoooooly shit! you are losing posts faster than me 0_o o_0

Well, I have a lot more to lose!

i lost more posts over my life than you could ever gain :P

Well, can we at least stop the purging. I'm sure that enough has been done and we've certainely all lost a lot of posts.

Eh? the purging is an ongoing process... just like the posting!

how can 'enough' be done when the number of posts, inc spam, is continually on the increase?

You won't suffer from the purges if you don't post spam.
Surely to be the top poster without posting spam is a more admirable goal?

You won't suffer from the purges if you don't post spam.
Surely to be the top poster without posting spam is a more admirable goal?

But I don't consider myself to spam. I don't post in word game threads and I haven't posted in 'discussion' threads since the demise of Volcano.

You won't suffer from the purges if you don't post spam.
Surely to be the top poster without posting spam is a more admirable goal?

But I don't consider myself to spam. I don't post in word game threads and I haven't posted in 'discussion' threads since the demise of Volcano. Plus, only General is being targeted whereas both NS and II forums have lots of large, dead, threads that are no good to anyone. Why aren't they being targeted?

only General is being targeted whereas both NS and II forums have lots of large, dead, threads that are no good to anyone. Why aren't they being targeted?
Simple. The RPers would lose the written historical records of their nations, stuff to which they regularly make reference to (in a literal sense, by linking) during ongoing play. I think you will find that many of those large, dead threads are still relevant to current events. In contrast, the Generalites are losing numbers under their name, not actual content. Who has regular need to refer back to a smiley-ridden social club thread from November or December? Hmm?

As you know, I am fond of colourful analogies. So I present you with a city, consisting of a centuries-old stone-built Old Town, and an urban New Town consisting of rotting multi-storey car parks and cheap restaurants. If you needed building space, which would you bulldoze first? The choice here is much the same. After Forum 7, the back pages of General is the least useful real estate.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator