NationStates Jolt Archive


Moderators, check out Nazi Europe. Talk about Griefing...

21-05-2004, 19:22
Ejected all nations but 5, I assume friends of the invader delegate.
Gothic Kitty
21-05-2004, 19:56
This invader has no friends. He also ejected his endorsees. Nazi Europe is up for the grabs.
21-05-2004, 19:59
IToo bad there is a password....
Gothic Kitty
21-05-2004, 20:04
It needs a founder. If a mod makes my puppet (1.7 billion) a founder, all problems are solved. I'll hold a tight grip on it, and we can finally sleep 8)
R E Lee
22-05-2004, 03:23
I am curious to know what exactly happened, when I csme back two people were deleted and tons of people gone!? War is good come back and flip out? and why was Orleans deleted?
22-05-2004, 03:37
What scum to invade a region... How lame.
Bucharuie
22-05-2004, 12:18
Hey, it was my cronies who invaded. A lot of casualties. There was no griefing, only deleting of nations by mods.
22-05-2004, 12:38
why was my nation deleted? I demand an explantion

Its not easy to come bye and develop a 2.7 billion person nation overnight!
22-05-2004, 12:38
why was my nation deleted? I demand an explantion

Its not easy to come bye and develop a 2.7 billion person nation overnight!
Gothic Kitty
22-05-2004, 12:59
why was my nation deleted? I demand an explantion

Its not easy to come bye and develop a 2.7 billion person nation overnight!

Did you assist War-is-good in any way? Did you endorse him, and didn't un-endorse him after he broke the invasion rules?
The Island of Orleans
22-05-2004, 13:18
Everyone here and especially RE Lee --

Happily none of my puppet nations have ceased to exist just yet.
Though I don't agree with the decision to make The Isle of Orleans ex-, I apologize to the Moderators anyway for giving them so much damn work to do :roll:

Just a clarification before I explain. This nation is The ISLAND of Orleans.
As the moderators have long known, I have roleplayed it as the direct ambassador to the home region of the UN in NS. I will stay on there as long as I'm wanted.

Additionally, with this nation I will not at this time apply for UN membership. I have made a formal UN application instead with my oldest current NS nation still in play. I await the world body's response.

Finally on the UN matter exclusively, though I am not appealing for Orleans direct re-instatement into the UN and gameplay, I have raised what I believe is an important issue in the sequence of reporting of UN ejections.
(Please refer to my latest posting in Moderation forum --
"I want UN membership back! Nazi Europe Invasion" )

As regards to what came down in NAZI EUROPE, RE Lee, you and the Confederate Empire's first guess was correct -- I had endorsed a "dummy" nation. Further, I had convinced a whole bunch of others to do the same!

Like many UN NS nations interested in going after a particular region, I had puppets in Nazi-themed regions. In NAZI EUROPE I certainly did. In fact one non-UN nation that was around when NE's founder Hitlers austria was alive.

Additionally I had secured an ally in NE's feeder region of Imperial Europe. This ally dutifully reported all activities there for me. So I saw all the Nazi roleplay of Sargeant Tom iii et al, from IE into NE. That ally did not make contact with anyone in the region however.

When Sargent Tom iii and his nations busted open themselves and the region as that of the purview of LV_421, I had my puppet within contact any nations UN or not that posted good anti-Nazi messages in Civil HQ. Only one responded, and it was not Tom or his "cheats". Nor was it War-is-Good. Indeed ( :o :o , neither me nor this other nation EVER have had returned communications or telegrams from War-is-Good.

Thoroughout this whole experience, War-is-Good NEVER communicated with me or I believe anybody. In fact, he ejected us all! Including non-UN puppets!

Indeed, you knew as much about War-is-Good as we did. No actvity for six days! Yet in a defensive strategy long known by such players but I think truly rarely employed. I trusted the enemy of my enemy without really knowing anything. :wink:

End of chapter one today. Please post comments here if you agree or not
:wink:
23-05-2004, 08:11
what? i get deleted for endorsing the UN delegate of a region. this is ridiculous. i didnt even know the delegate. I find it unacceptable that a nation can be deleted for no cause other then he endorses someone who a moderator doesnt like. I'm not interested if they broke Un rules or not, this shoud'nt have had any bearing on me or my nation "waterford".
Gothic Kitty
23-05-2004, 09:26
<----------- Not A mod

I'm not interested if they broke Un rules or not, this shoud'nt have had any bearing on me or my nation "waterford".

Why are you not interested in what he did?! You endorsed him, and it doesn't bother you at all, that he griefed the place? You are lucky that I am not in the jury. I vote guilty! It is beside the point if you care or not. By endorsing him, you became part of the problem, and also partly responsible. I might be out of line here, but I bet this wasn't your first time that you assisted in invasion/defending that had gone wrong.
The Island of Orleans
23-05-2004, 10:10
:( Sorry Waterford if it makes you feel better. I lost my whole nation over that too, I'm sure (note this is The ISLAND of Orleans. Same emir however as The Isle of Orleans)

:wink: Gothic Kitty is right. Rather than be upset overly let us learn from the experience. I sure have. Now my long time puppet and native of Nazi Europe has nearly the same command of things as Orleans did with its UN status!

:P Reminds me of the saying: "Don't underestimate the power of a pawn"

-- The Emir of The Island / ex-Isle of Orleans
Gothic Kitty
23-05-2004, 10:34
It's a pity that he lost such a big nation for it. I really feel sorry for him, but that doesn't mean that he should be restored. We have walked that fine line between griefing and occupying too. My sister was the center off all ejectees complaints, and we already had an IP ban on this forum.
My main nation was deleted for rule's violations on another occasion, and I still mourn that one.
What I want to say with this is that you have to move on. Complaining about it makes things only worst. You get to be known by the moderators, and since you are already tagged for a violation, it makes it only easier to delete your next nation.
24-05-2004, 02:01
24-05-2004, 02:03
24-05-2004, 02:06
This is bull, I'm deciding to leave the game then if this is the case. Trying to imply i was involved in underhand activity is shamless. The cowardly mods make me puke, wont even respond to my queries. I have been in this game for most of its existence and now I dont care if they wish to delete my nation. They have sickened me, Apox on them, self righteous gangsters, who would behave in such a rude way?, i mean really, they even had the cheek to object just now to the fact i have a filthy leftist as my national animal? did they not notice that i had this as the animal of my ol country for 12 months? oh god.
The Most Glorious Hack
24-05-2004, 07:47
This is bull, I'm deciding to leave the game then if this is the case. Trying to imply i was involved in underhand activity is shamless. The cowardly mods make me puke, wont even respond to my queries. I have been in this game for most of its existence and now I dont care if they wish to delete my nation. They have sickened me, Apox on them, self righteous gangsters, who would behave in such a rude way?, i mean really, they even had the cheek to object just now to the fact i have a filthy leftist as my national animal? did they not notice that i had this as the animal of my ol country for 12 months? oh god.

Dude, relax.

Look, it's really simple, and has even been explained previously. By endorcing a griefing Delegate, you gave tacit support to a disallowed activity. "Aiding and abeting a felony", if you will. Ad hominem and baseless attacks aside, it still remains that the Mod who took action on your case followed SOP.
24-05-2004, 08:01
Aiding a felony?!? he was already UN delegate when I entered the region!

You are only trying to justify the behaviour of reactionaries who cant admit they were wrong in case it sting their egos. I wasnt even warned ffs.
Beachcomber
25-05-2004, 15:37
I find it unacceptable that a nation can be deleted for no cause other then he endorses someone who a moderator doesnt like.
Yeah, it really should be in the FAQ that the mods can and will delete you if they don't like something you've done, the look on your face, the way you do that funny thing with your tongue, or the way your dog smells...whether or not you break any stated rules.

I suppose you might have done something technically illegal in this case, but if you lose your nation permanently over this, I don't blame you for leaving.