NationStates Jolt Archive


Um, I just wanna know...

Rhyno D
19-05-2004, 17:33
Why was forum7 deated? Like i said, i just want to know...It seemed to be fine, and Lapse's spam rules sounded fine to me...
Kwaswhakistan
19-05-2004, 18:50
Same here.
Gothic Kitty
19-05-2004, 18:58
<-------- Not a Moderator

It was a temporary forum anyway, and it was never meant to jolt with us. The time had come. I never posted there, since it was a useless forum, full of spam.
Tactical Grace
19-05-2004, 19:02
We're getting tough on Spam Lite. The server can't take the load, so we got rid of it.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Tuesday Heights
20-05-2004, 04:09
It's about time, guys.
Collaboration
20-05-2004, 17:31
It's about time, guys.

Bah.
Humbug.
Lighten up and smell the flowers.
This whole site is for fun; it's not like we're Salon or something. If someone wants high quality debate, they've come to the wrong place.
Draconis Nightcrawlis
20-05-2004, 18:51
Servers been better since Forum 7 went. Think how much better it would be if General went too :D
Rhyno D
20-05-2004, 19:29
Servers been better since Forum 7 went. Think how much better it would be if General went too :D

not it hasn't. It's just as crappy as it ever was, besides, why not get rid of the forums that no one ever uses, like the issues forum or the archive?

Almost all of my posts were in that forum! That forum is most of the reason i come here! It wasn't all spam, a lot of it was just having fun, and if you don't want spam, follow lapse's rules, and crack down on the actual spam, but leave the rest there, eh? Forum7 was perfect for the guys who just wanted to hang, no politics, and no RP.

And i personally wouldn't mind the server being a little slower if we can have forum7 back! Who's with me?
Draconis Nightcrawlis
20-05-2004, 19:58
Actually you'll find that Issues and Archives are used. They just aren't used as spam fests like Forum 7 was.
Zarozina
21-05-2004, 00:02
It's about time, guys.

Bah.
Humbug.
Lighten up and smell the flowers.
This whole site is for fun; it's not like we're Salon or something. If someone wants high quality debate, they've come to the wrong place.couldn't have put it better myself.

Anyway, who's to say what's "useless"?

It may be spam to non F7 people, but if they're weren't using F7 who are they to complain? It's our site; F7 AND non F7 users alike. We all have as much right to our "space" as each other. Now our fun is right under their noses in General.

Anyway the server is no better now than it was, so ... WHAT WAS THE POINT?
Persecuted Redeemed
21-05-2004, 00:34
This is like trying to get a deated nation back.

Sorry man, but it's not going to happen. And the server has been faster since they got rid of F7.

<-------- Obviously not a mod.
Rhyno D
21-05-2004, 17:55
This is like trying to get a deated nation back.

Sorry man, but it's not going to happen. And the server has been faster since they got rid of F7.

<-------- Obviously not a mod.

Again, no it's still crappy! And it was NOT all spam! I was actually having fun there, as was, i assure you, everone else! And people get away with more pointless threads in the general forum...

Power to the forum7ites!
Join the forum7ite movement!
Disclaimer: We are NOT anitmod, just anti-antiforum7

P.S. For anyone who feels the same way, come to the region i'll be making in a minute, "Land of the Forum7ites"
Draconis Nightcrawlis
21-05-2004, 18:40
It is definitely better now forum 7's been deleted. Before I could hardly post, now it hardly goes down on me. It may have been fun but it was still a spam fest there.
Forschnik
21-05-2004, 18:42
Forum 7 was pretty much the only forum I went to. What am I supposed to do now? I know the General Forum is for....General Chatting, but Forum 7 was not full of spam, YOUR definition of spam is probably useless stuff that is meant to make you laugh, but MY definition of spam is useless stuff that doesn't make you laugh, think, have anything to do with what was previously said, or is constantly repeated for no reason. Forum 7 may be a tiny bit faster, and more to some other people, but I play on a school computer(and it is really,really (REALLY) slow. Forums will ALWAYS run slow on a computer like this and probably any other computer that has just as much space as this and is still running on Windows 95/98. Forum 7 peoples felt just as 'homley' as General forum ppls do. I know we're just a few people and it's a pretty useless argument. But how was Forum 7 pointless? If forum 7 was pointless, then so is the General Forum! If you disagree then your probably not a General Forum person or a Forum 7 person. NationStates is a site for fun, and not everyone takes it so seriously nor do they usually represent their country on the boards. For me, my country is the SN i use on NationStates forum, and the Country I own on NationStates.

Power to the anti-antiForum7
Power to the Forum 7ites!
-Arynth-
21-05-2004, 20:47
If I remember correctly, Forum 7 just started as an April Fools' joke...maybe it will return next year. :twisted:
Rhyno D
22-05-2004, 04:18
Ok, proof of why Forum7 wasn't spam...Right now on the first page of the General forum is a thread titled "Fun/interesting websites", "Hot concervative chics", and "Hey". Is any of that called spam? HELLO! They may as well titled it "Spam" and labeled it "made in chirnoble"!

OK, not trying to piss off the mods, but you're being hypocrits. If you're going to delete a whole friggin' forum that was actually fun, then you should at least lock stupid threads that aren't even funny! Half of the threads in General are more pointless than those in forum7, and at least forum7 was fun.
Automatic Noodles
22-05-2004, 21:10
Ok, proof of why Forum7 wasn't spam...Right now on the first page of the General forum is a thread titled "Fun/interesting websites", "Hot concervative chics", and "Hey". Is any of that called spam? HELLO! They may as well titled it "Spam" and labeled it "made in chirnoble"!

OK, not trying to piss off the mods, but you're being hypocrits. If you're going to delete a whole friggin' forum that was actually fun, then you should at least lock stupid threads that aren't even funny! Half of the threads in General are more pointless than those in forum7, and at least forum7 was fun.ditto, seconded, hear hear, etc etc.
Please lock the above threads; they are slowing the server down for people who want to have serious political/ethical discussions. Also "hot guys/chicks on NS" and all taverns, clubs and word games. They are annoying and they are just pointless spam.
Rhyno D
23-05-2004, 16:33
Ok, proof of why Forum7 wasn't spam...Right now on the first page of the General forum is a thread titled "Fun/interesting websites", "Hot concervative chics", and "Hey". Is any of that called spam? HELLO! They may as well titled it "Spam" and labeled it "made in chirnoble"!

OK, not trying to piss off the mods, but you're being hypocrits. If you're going to delete a whole friggin' forum that was actually fun, then you should at least lock stupid threads that aren't even funny! Half of the threads in General are more pointless than those in forum7, and at least forum7 was fun.ditto, seconded, hear hear, etc etc.
Please lock the above threads; they are slowing the server down for people who want to have serious political/ethical discussions. Also "hot guys/chicks on NS" and all taverns, clubs and word games. They are annoying and they are just pointless spam.

There's more spam in the general than in forum7. Especially cuz the far majority of NS players never even went there. Most of them go to the General, though. If cracking down on spam is your excuse for deating a perfectly good forum, then start cracking down! The server is still slow anyways.

And if you think the server isn't still slow, than can we at least have it back when we switch to jolt (whenever the hell that is)? You keep saying how much jolt is going to improve the server, so it can handle the extra forum, right? So at least give it back then!!!

P.S. I think something is wrong with this thread. Yesterday it said that people had posted but i couldn't see the posts.
Lemmings With Attitude
23-05-2004, 17:01
*yells* CONSPIRACY!!!
Kaukolastan
23-05-2004, 17:34
Forum 7 was a joke, that they kept around for a while. It was never meant to stay, and this was known from square one.

<---Nope, not a mod.
Rhyno D
23-05-2004, 18:19
Forum 7 was a joke, that they kept around for a while. It was never meant to stay, and this was known from square one.

<---Nope, not a mod.

So?! It was fun. And they did say afterwards that they were going to keep it. Common decency would at least give us a warning, a vote, something.
Kaukolastan
24-05-2004, 03:50
So?! It was fun. And they did say afterwards that they were going to keep it.
They said "until we move to Jolt". I am under the unconfirmed impression that this is happening soon. Hence the massive trimming and pruning.
Common decency would at least give us a warning,
They did say it was temporary, and they announced it was until the switch. The switch is being prepped, so it went. A warning was given.
a vote,
NS is NOT a democracy. You signed the Terms of Service, and you play by their rules.
something.
What else could they do? Shift to general? That would merely MOVE the problem, not solve it. They need to cut back, and Forum Seven was the first target of opportunity, as well as the least relevant/important forum.

I.E. The other forums relate to the game, except for General, and if General died, it would cause a huge fubar.

<--- Not a mod
Scolopendra
24-05-2004, 06:02
How about this... this will be unpopular, but it's tough.

Forum 7 was spam to us. This site, as proposed by Max Barry, is supposed to be primarily about political and national debate. Not about word games, not about who can post here first or last or the most times in a day. It isn't about post counts or saying HAVE YOU FOUND JEEZUS?! or OMG MODERATOR CONSPIRACY! or doing something just because it's fun--the fact that spamming may be fun is irrelevant to the fact that it is spam as per the ToS and thus not a legitimate form of fun on this site. It may be fun to climb up the slide at the water park, but is that allowed? No. The water slide is for going down, as determined by the people who paid to build and maintain it and the agents those self-same people appointed to enforce the rules. The exact same concept applies here. There are places where such things are appropriate. This is not one of them.

That's why Forum 7 disappeared.

That's why post-games are disappearing from General.

That's why no amount of argument will bring them back.

It was a gag to begin with and never intended to stay. If people don't like it, we're sorry but that's how it is. The choices left are to stay and adapt or to leave. Those complaining are hardly out anything but the time they spent posting on thread X first (or last or most). This is not a democracy and the needs of keeping this server triaged for as long as we may need it trumps the 'common decency' of a warning that would serve no purpose but to elicit cries of "NO, DON'T!" which would simply be ignored as the decision had already been made.

Adapt or leave. It is a simple choice, and an individual one, and all one can do is be true to him or herself when they make it.