NationStates Jolt Archive


How many warnings am I allowed?

Colodia
04-05-2004, 19:22
I think I have crossed the line perhaps twice....

Is it like a 3 strikes, your DEATed rule?

And can you guys tell me the warnings I received? I do not get to see all of em...

EDIT: Also, is it possible I can get a free ride if I do something nice?
Scolopendra
05-05-2004, 00:42
Warned: $MOD: Bad UN proposal "Monkey resolution". (25 Jan 2004, 10:27 PM EST) Added.. Flaming on the forum (May4/04) - $MOD

Well... you've got one very minor warning and one big one. If you do something along the lines of flame, troll, or spam again, you'll get deleted.

And these go on your permanent record. There are no 'free rides.' Do good and you don't get deleted. Do bad and you are punished. Simple as that.

--Scolo
Colodia
05-05-2004, 03:35
thanks

I never knew mods had records like that :shock:
Attitude 910
05-05-2004, 03:38
*Double Post*
Attitude 910
05-05-2004, 03:39
thanks

I never knew mods had records like that :shock:


Oh yea they keep records from the day you were created to even passed the death of you nation. Which makes we wonder what they have on me?

[not a mod]
Der Kommiser
05-05-2004, 06:28
do we have the right to request a viewing of our "file"?
Scolopendra
05-05-2004, 06:41
You can ask if you've been warned, at which point we check.

Otherwise, no.

By the way, you're clean at the moment.
Stephistan
05-05-2004, 06:42
do we have the right to request a viewing of our "file"?

Only if you make an application through the "Freedom of Information Act" :lol:
Monkeypimp
05-05-2004, 06:43
I know I've been given an 'unofficial warning' but I'm not sure if I've picked up more than that. I'll assume I have.
05-05-2004, 06:47
While we're on the topic, if a person has a few warnings early on, and then has a significantly long history of good behavior, and then commits a single act, does that person's history still count against him/her, or does it eventually get wiped clean?

After all, after a long period of time, eventually something is bound to come up. I'm certain my record is clean- I've received no telegrams, received no warnings to my knowledge- but I figured I'd ask out of curiosity.
Colodia
05-05-2004, 06:49
While we're on the topic, if a person has a few warnings early on, and then has a significantly long history of good behavior, and then commits a single act, does that person's history still count against him/her, or does it eventually get wiped clean?

After all, after a long period of time, eventually something is bound to come up. I'm certain my record is clean- I've received no telegrams, received no warnings to my knowledge- but I figured I'd ask out of curiosity.
Kinda the question I asked...humans make mistakes, it's only natural to make a mistake here and there


It's unreasonable to be held accountable for an act you did on January 2004 and another act on February 2005
Marineris Colonies
05-05-2004, 06:55
do we have the right to request a viewing of our "file"?

Only if you make an application through the "Freedom of Information Act" :lol:

*is lowered down from ceiling with a disk in teeth...swings over to terminal, inserts disk and begins downloading MOD list*

*leaves completed FOIA form on keyboard as he is lifted back into ceiling*
Scolopendra
05-05-2004, 07:11
FOIA only applies to records held by the United States Government...

...and because these records belong to Max Barry of Austrailia...

...yeah. ;)

Anyway, yes, we do hold people accountable for actions throughout their existence. If they break the rules of their own volition and have been informed of their error, any other voluntary violation cannot be tolerated. It's all about personal responsibility. If someone chooses to flame another, that person suffers the consequences of that choice.

Afterwards, they should know what they did was wrong and willingly not break rules again. If, in a fit of pique, they choose to break another rule, then they suffer the consequence of that action--deletion--knowing full well that that is the consequence.

It is not our job to police the responsibility of the individual. It is the individual's perogative to be a responsible member.

--Scolo der Game Mod
Stephistan
05-05-2004, 07:18
do we have the right to request a viewing of our "file"?

Only if you make an application through the "Freedom of Information Act" :lol:

*is lowered down from ceiling with a disk in teeth...swings over to terminal, inserts disk and begins downloading MOD list*

*leaves completed FOIA form on keyboard as he is lifted back into ceiling*

In case of any confusion.. I was only joking..lol :wink:
Unfree People
05-05-2004, 07:29
Joking, Steph? Pfft, how dare a GM have a sense of humor??

:P
Nolaerie
05-05-2004, 07:48
:) :? :lol:

Of course Stephanie has a sense of humour!

Colodia might want to consider a remaking of his image by creating a new nation and being especially good -- like being an ally against griefers, etc.

Of course be aware that the moderators are watching! :wink:
[violet]
05-05-2004, 07:58
Warnings make for a fairer mod system -- we can easily tell if this nation is a constant trouble-maker or not. Previously, a nation could be punished too harshly for just one borderline rule violation.

Warnings are also dated, so mods can tell how old a previous infraction is.
Colodia
05-05-2004, 08:06
]Warnings make for a fairer mod system -- we can easily tell if this nation is a constant trouble-maker or not. Previously, a nation could be punished too harshly for just one borderline rule violation.

Warnings are also dated, so mods can tell how old a previous infraction is.

Heil [violet]


Heh, awesome...I finally got the admin to a topic of mine


anyways....thanks for coming...peace....god bless....etc...
Gothic Kitty
05-05-2004, 10:10
I don't want to know how many stitches I have on the notch. (Judgement day is inevitable for us all.) If I have any, I will eventually find out, and learn that this is still a game, and that it's free 8)
Crazy girl
05-05-2004, 10:17
i asked bout it not too long ago, and after one year of playing, and creating over 200 puppies, i'm still clean
the mods never did find out my evil plans :twisted:
so, where's my cookie?
Gothic Kitty
05-05-2004, 11:27
i asked bout it not too long ago, and after one year of playing, and creating over 200 puppies, i'm still clean
the mods never did find out my evil plans :twisted:
so, where's my cookie?

Maybe they are just scared to feel the wrath of a 1000 puppets, and rather not tell :twisted:
Crazy girl
05-05-2004, 11:28
sssstt...

they only know of about 200 of them :twisted:
Gothic Kitty
05-05-2004, 11:34
sssstt...

they only know of about 200 of them :twisted:

A "delete-on-sight" on you must be a nightmare for them. I shudder to think of the horror that particular mod must go though :P
Meulmania
05-05-2004, 11:35
FOIA only applies to records held by the United States Government...

...and because these records belong to Max Barry of Austrailia...

...yeah. ;)

Anyway, yes, we do hold people accountable for actions throughout their existence. If they break the rules of their own volition and have been informed of their error, any other voluntary violation cannot be tolerated. It's all about personal responsibility. If someone chooses to flame another, that person suffers the consequences of that choice.

Afterwards, they should know what they did was wrong and willingly not break rules again. If, in a fit of pique, they choose to break another rule, then they suffer the consequence of that action--deletion--knowing full well that that is the consequence.

It is not our job to police the responsibility of the individual. It is the individual's perogative to be a responsible member.

--Scolo der Game Mod


I am from Australia and there is a freedom of information act if you wish to get information. That is how we found out our school was blackmailed by our former principal but that's another story. ANd just out of curiousity do I have a mod record.
[violet]
06-05-2004, 01:55
I am from Australia and there is a freedom of information act if you wish to get information. That is how we found out our school was blackmailed by our former principal but that's another story. ANd just out of curiousity do I have a mod record.
You do now.
:twisted:
Dragon angel
06-05-2004, 02:07
my other nation got deleted with no warnings :cry: :oops:
Liverpool England
06-05-2004, 08:57
my other nation got deleted with no warnings :cry: :oops:

Did you not log in to it for over 28 days?
Did you post porn [a DEAT-on-sight offence]?
Roania
06-05-2004, 09:10
I am from Australia and there is a freedom of information act if you wish to get information. That is how we found out our school was blackmailed by our former principal but that's another story. ANd just out of curiousity do I have a mod record.

Generally, that's not applied to private enterprises. Such as this site.
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 09:46
]I am from Australia and there is a freedom of information act if you wish to get information. That is how we found out our school was blackmailed by our former principal but that's another story. ANd just out of curiousity do I have a mod record.
You do now.
:twisted:

AHHHHHHHHHH!
Leumah
06-05-2004, 10:55
my other nation got deleted with no warnings :cry: :oops:

Did you not log in to it for over 28 days?
Did you post porn [a DEAT-on-sight offence]?


You mentioned "DEAT on sight" offences. what are these, and are there any other categories of offences, and if so what are they?
R they listed somewhere? I am new to NS and have not found such a list.
(now that I have asked, it will probably be staring me in the face) :roll:
Gothic Kitty
06-05-2004, 11:03
<----------- Not a Mod!

"DEAT on sight"

"Delete-on-sight". Please don't call it "Deat"? Mods are not gods. They aren't even close.

Repeated offenders get a "delete-on-sight" waranty, also porn posters and people who spam links to sites that have nothing to do with NationStates.
Adbusters
06-05-2004, 11:27
.

And these go on your permanent record.

its like getting suspended! :lol:
The Most Glorious Hack
06-05-2004, 11:52
You mentioned "DEAT on sight" offences. what are these, and are there any other categories of offences, and if so what are they?

Well... they're pretty obvious, usually. If you post pornography in the forums, on your flag, have an inappropriate name (ie: 'Fukk You') you will likely be deleted without warning.

Also, excessive violations of the T&C can lead to insta-deletion. For instance, spamming normally just gets you a warning. Posting dozens of spam threads across several forums will likely result in instant purging.

Again, let common sense be a guide, and remember that as Mods, we are allowed a certain degree of discretion.

Edit: Also, there's this: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87887
Sketch
06-05-2004, 19:30
Is there anyway to know if you have been warned or not? Such as a "Congratualtions, your idiocy has earned you the attention of the mods. Keep it up and you will be DEATed." TG from the ubliquitorous nation, NationStatesMods. Or, will you just wake up one day and find that you have spammed one too many times and have been DEATed?
Enerica
06-05-2004, 19:42
Can Mods be deleted? :lol:

Can I?

Can Max?
The Most Glorious Hack
07-05-2004, 06:56
Is there anyway to know if you have been warned or not?

Oftentimes a VoM (Voice of Mod) telegram is sent to the nation explaining what happened. Also, if a Mod gives you a warning in one of your threads, that counts too. Also, if your motto suddenly changes to something along the lines of "Choose An Appropriate Motto", you can consider that a warning.

Can Mods be deleted?

Can I?

Can Max?

Yes, yes, and no.

Max, obviously, cannot be deleted as he is a person and note a nation. Since he is not stored on the server, Moderator powers cannot reach him. His nations, on the other hand, are fair game.
Liverpool England
07-05-2004, 07:05
Out of interest, can someone check if I have a warning?

Not guilty conscience or anything, just wondering....
Transnapastain
07-05-2004, 07:10
It seems to me, if you had a record, you'd most likely know it, i, for one, wouldnt miss a warning from a mod in a thread....

...at least i dont think i would.....

....wonder if i did.....

....awwww poop
The Atheists Reality
07-05-2004, 07:12
Out of interest, can someone check if I have a warning?

Not guilty conscience or anything, just wondering....

same here, just wondering
07-05-2004, 08:34
u would know i think, cuz the mod would say- ok TAR- this is a WARNING. dont do it again, your risking the life of your nation, blablabla, etc. you get the point.
The Atheists Reality
07-05-2004, 09:50
u would know i think, cuz the mod would say- ok TAR- this is a WARNING. dont do it again, your risking the life of your nation, blablabla, etc. you get the point.

eh? :?
Jay W
07-05-2004, 10:11
This brings up a question for me. I am a moderator on a different forum style site. On our's we have a warn level feature that can be raised or lowered. Do the moderators here have the ability to lower the warn level or only to raise? I like this feature very much, as it gives the moderator the ability to reward good behavior as well as punish bad. Just curious.
The Most Glorious Hack
07-05-2004, 10:19
No such animal here.
Jay W
07-05-2004, 10:36
No such animal here.That's a shame. Kind of puts you moderators into a negative light. Sure would like to see something like that added here. Might make things easier all around. Thanks for the answer.
Roania
08-05-2004, 07:26
You mentioned "DEAT on sight" offences. what are these, and are there any other categories of offences, and if so what are they?R they listed somewhere? I am new to NS and have not found such a list.(now that I have asked, it will probably be staring me in the face) :roll:

Generally, it's common sense. Posting porn is a delete on sight offense. Posting spam is a deletable offense. Making a fake NS2 site is a delete on sight offense. Being a moron is a deletable offense. Being IP banned, but coming back through another IP is a delete-on-sight offense. Comparing people to Hitler is a deletable offense, if the target is insulted incredibly.

List goes on.