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So, why was I deleted? I stopped flaming when told to. What, I disagreed with your political opinions, so you decided to silence me? Now you're going to refuse to give me an explanation and say that this is "off-topic" or some such, right? Perhaps I'll be deleted again for having the audacity to pose a simple question.

Obviously you did something wrong. Whether you believe in your own infallability so much that you can't see that is beyond me. But I wouldn't push the issue. Obviously they let you create a new nation. They could have just banned you from the forum, or even the site. I'd count my blessings and move along silently. You aren't the first newbie to try to take on the "corrupt" mods, and you won't be the last. And you also won't be any kind of martyr.

Who are you? and Why should I care?

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Myrth
Forum Moderatz0r

It would take someone like, Goober, or Qual, or Ballotonia (sp? why do the big posters all have complicated names?) to realyl be a marytr for this game.

And that won't happen before they become mods themselves so we shall forever be under their rule.

Turn or Burn, Vicious.

You did not stop flaming in time. You were warned by myself and two Game Moderators in several different threads before you were deleted. That's three warnings for three different offences. The norm is one.

In future, remember that disagreeing with someone's politics or stance in a debate does not give you a right to make personal attacks. Always treat other players with respect.

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Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

I fail to understand how people do not know what they did wrong. Is it just me, or do other people expect others to know when they are in the wrong? Perhaps, I'm the only one, but this game seems to attract a lot of people who fail to see the error in their ways.

I fail to understand how people do not know what they did wrong. Is it just me, or do other people expect others to know when they are in the wrong? Perhaps, I'm the only one, but this game seems to attract a lot of people who fail to see the error in their ways.

Like I said, alot of people truly believe that they are infallable. No matter what they do, they don't think that they should be punished for breaking the rules. You could go point by point and show him exactly why what he did was wrong, and he'd come up with excuses as to why those points don't actually count. Some people can do no wrong in their own minds.

Like I said, alot of people truly believe that they are infallable. No matter what they do, they don't think that they should be punished for breaking the rules. You could go point by point and show him exactly why what he did was wrong, and he'd come up with excuses as to why those points don't actually count. Some people can do no wrong in their own minds.

And all of these people play NS!!! :evil:

Obviously you did something wrong. Whether you believe in your own infallability so much that you can't see that is beyond me. But I wouldn't push the issue. Obviously they let you create a new nation. They could have just banned you from the forum, or even the site. I'd count my blessings and move along silently. You aren't the first newbie to try to take on the "corrupt" mods, and you won't be the last. And you also won't be any kind of martyr.
Hey, pal, don't try to condescend to me. You're not very good at it. I was simply asking for an explanation. Don't you dare presume to put words in my mouth, so to speak. Perhaps remedial English courses are in order for you, eh?

You did not stop flaming in time. You were warned by myself and two Game Moderators in several different threads before you were deleted. That's three warnings for three different offences. The norm is one.

In future, remember that disagreeing with someone's politics or stance in a debate does not give you a right to make personal attacks. Always treat other players with respect.

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Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
For future reference, what, pray tell, did I post that constituted a further flame?

Like I said, alot of people truly believe that they are infallable. No matter what they do, they don't think that they should be punished for breaking the rules. You could go point by point and show him exactly why what he did was wrong, and he'd come up with excuses as to why those points don't actually count. Some people can do no wrong in their own minds.
Right, Mr. Psychologist, you really KNOW me. You don't know me at all, don't assume to know the workings of my mind. Perhaps the same applies to you and you're trying to tack your shortcomings onto me, eh?

Hey, pal, don't try to condescend to me. You're not very good at it. I was simply asking for an explanation. Don't you dare presume to put words in my mouth, so to speak. Perhaps remedial English courses are in order for you, eh?


You know what? He happens to be right. You were deleted for a reason, for a violation of the rules. Frankly, given your holier-than-thou attitude and flamebaiting, I can see why you were deleted.


For future reference, what, pray tell, did I post that constituted a further flame?


For future reference, that little comment about remedial English counts as flaming/flaimbaiting.


Right, Mr. Psychologist, you really KNOW me. You don't know me at all, don't assume to know the workings of my mind. Perhaps the same applies to you and you're trying to tack your shortcomings onto me, eh?

You're just determined to see this nation blasted too, aren't you? Go look up the Real HLF and the Real HLF2 threads here in Moderation, and see what the mods do to recalcitrant miscreants who fail to learn their lesson.

I fail to understand how people do not know what they did wrong. Is it just me, or do other people expect others to know when they are in the wrong? Perhaps, I'm the only one, but this game seems to attract a lot of people who fail to see the error in their ways.

I kno what you mean. I can see some things, but really....

Obviously you did something wrong. Whether you believe in your own infallability so much that you can't see that is beyond me. But I wouldn't push the issue. Obviously they let you create a new nation. They could have just banned you from the forum, or even the site. I'd count my blessings and move along silently. You aren't the first newbie to try to take on the "corrupt" mods, and you won't be the last. And you also won't be any kind of martyr.
Hey, pal, don't try to condescend to me. You're not very good at it. I was simply asking for an explanation. Don't you dare presume to put words in my mouth, so to speak. Perhaps remedial English courses are in order for you, eh?


No one is condescending towards you. That's in your mind. You didn't simply ask for an explanation, however. You insinuated that you were deleted for having a different political belief than the moderators, not because you were warned 3 times for flaming. Then you made the comment that you might be deleted for standing up to the moderators, a martyr, so to speak. So you weren't simply asking for an explanation, you were confronting the moderators. I could read the subtext in your post just fine; I don't need remedial English courses. And, for the record, that's the kind of flaming that probably got you deleted in the first place.

Like I said, alot of people truly believe that they are infallable. No matter what they do, they don't think that they should be punished for breaking the rules. You could go point by point and show him exactly why what he did was wrong, and he'd come up with excuses as to why those points don't actually count. Some people can do no wrong in their own minds.
Right, Mr. Psychologist, you really KNOW me. You don't know me at all, don't assume to know the workings of my mind. Perhaps the same applies to you and you're trying to tack your shortcomings onto me, eh?

I'll assume the workings of your mind as much as I want. I'm sorry if you don't feel my words apply to you, but in disagreeing like that, you're really just proving my point. Whether or not it's actually the case, it appears that way to the rest of us. And, as far as I know, I've yet to have my nation deleted, and then try to assault the mods for doing so, so the same does not apply to me at all. But thank you for trying to shift the blame.

Hey, pal, don't try to condescend to me. You're not very good at it. I was simply asking for an explanation. Don't you dare presume to put words in my mouth, so to speak. Perhaps remedial English courses are in order for you, eh?

Right, Mr. Psychologist, you really KNOW me. You don't know me at all, don't assume to know the workings of my mind. Perhaps the same applies to you and you're trying to tack your shortcomings onto me, eh?

. . .

For future reference, what, pray tell, did I post that constituted a further flame?

OK. Let's have a look at the first two comments you posted just there. That's flamebaiting. That's another official warning. As for your earlier misconduct, you know what you did, so you can search it up yourself.

EDIT: Oh yes, and could all non-Mods please stop provoking him? Thanks.

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Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Oops. Looks like someone's finger slipped over at the mod control center.

EXTERMINATUS

Hey, pal, don't try to condescend to me. You're not very good at it. I was simply asking for an explanation. Don't you dare presume to put words in my mouth, so to speak. Perhaps remedial English courses are in order for you, eh?

Right, Mr. Psychologist, you really KNOW me. You don't know me at all, don't assume to know the workings of my mind. Perhaps the same applies to you and you're trying to tack your shortcomings onto me, eh?

. . .

For future reference, what, pray tell, did I post that constituted a further flame?

OK. Let's have a look at the first two comments you posted just there. That's flamebaiting. That's another official warning. As for your earlier misconduct, you know what you did, so you can search it up yourself.

EDIT: Oh yes, and could all non-Mods please stop provoking him? Thanks.

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Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Sorry. When did this thread go into Moderation? I must've missed that.

The 4th post. :wink:

The 4th post. :wink:

Ah. I posted when it was in General. And then I followed it from the list of my posts. Didn't notice the forum had changed. I'm so clueless sometimes. I didn't realize it had turned into an official moderator thing, otherwise I wouldn't have kept on at him. My apologies, TG.

That's fine, mistakes can be made, no harm done. As you can see, he's toast anyway.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Oh, okay, I get it now. It's not just profanity that I must avoid, it's responding at all to fellow forum members' vicious and unwarranted verbal attacks upon my person. I shall not in the future deign to defend myself, Mr. Tactical Grace, forum moderator. I am acquiescing to your righteous orders, though I suppose you might in your infinite wisdom classify this as flamebaiting as well, even though I have not at all insulted anyone within this particular post. In the future, I shall sit on my hands when faced with an attack. Understood. So, are you going to delete me for confirming my willingness to obey your moderatorly directives?

If you are flamed or flamebaited, you're supposed to come here and post here and let the moderators handle it. If you go back and flame them too, then you too are in the wrong as much as the other man. Vigilante justice doesn't solve anything in NS because the mods are so readily accessable and they will find you.

BTW, making smart comments to a moderator isn't the best way to play this game. Go and look at all of the threads by The Real HLF and mabye they will show you what not to do. You have a new nation, so just go and enjoy it and leave the mods alone before you make them angry.

(not a moderator myself)

Oh, okay, I get it now. It's not just profanity that I must avoid, it's responding at all to fellow forum members' vicious and unwarranted verbal attacks upon my person. I shall not in the future deign to defend myself, Mr. Tactical Grace, forum moderator. I am acquiescing to your righteous orders, though I suppose you might in your infinite wisdom classify this as flamebaiting as well, even though I have not at all insulted anyone within this particular post. In the future, I shall sit on my hands when faced with an attack. Understood. So, are you going to delete me for confirming my willingness to obey your moderatorly directives?

Note to self, no one likes a smartass.. move on.. nothing to see here.. be good or else! ;)

Stephanie
Game Moderator

Oh, okay, I get it now. I'm annoyed and so I'm going to make myself feel big by talking down to the people who run the website that I don't pay any money to go to and yet expect the universe out of.
Look--that kind of attitude is not going to get you anywhere. We deal with enough terminal ends of the gastrointestinal tract so that when people go out of their way to be obnoxious to us, we tend to be sure to not cut them much, if any, slack.

You wanna flame others, "defend" yourself, stoke the fires? Go ahead. You're going to get deleted [again] just like any other rulebreaker.

Now, if you'd like to calm down and play nice, then talk to us. Otherwise, I'm not seeing any point in trying to reason with you.

Oh, okay, I get it now. I'm annoyed and so I'm going to make myself feel big by talking down to the people who run the website that I don't pay any money to go to and yet expect the universe out of.
Look--that kind of attitude is not going to get you anywhere. We deal with enough terminal ends of the gastrointestinal tract so that when people go out of their way to be obnoxious to us, we tend to be sure to not cut them much, if any, slack.

You wanna flame others, "defend" yourself, stoke the fires? Go ahead. You're going to get deleted [again] just like any other rulebreaker.

Now, if you'd like to calm down and play nice, then talk to us. Otherwise, I'm not seeing any point in trying to reason with you.
There you go, presuming to know exactly what I think. You're wrong in your assessment, I would point out in which ways, but then you'd simply call it flamebaiting and delete me again. Though if I'd responded to you in the same way that you did to me, you'd of course delete this nation again, right? I do not at all intend to flame people again. I do, however, intend to respond in the same reasonable manner that I have in my previous posts. Unless, of course, that is also arbitrarily classified as flamebaiting/flaming. For simple academic reference, does this discourse constitute flamebaiting on my part?

The dripping sarcasm displayed towards TacGrace is still unappreciated. If you aren't a flamer, then you certainly are stepping hazardously close to trolling.

Now, instead of using twenty-dollar sentences where ten-cent words will suffice: Are you going to play nice with others, or are we just going to have to go through this all over again?

Yes or no.

Not to assume/ presume anything but I would drop this whole thing as it could only really get worse. They get to choose who plays the game. They make the rules. You have to play by them. Anyways, does it really matter about the individual in this, it is just a simulation so-to-speak. No-one here really needs to know about anyone else. As i say, just play by the rules and be a good citizen. If you do that no-one can blame you for anything. Sorry but i think you should just move on. At least you can create a new nation and start again. How comforting that is I don't know.

Now, instead of using twenty-dollar sentences where ten-cent words will suffice: Are you going to play nice with others, or are we just going to have to go through this all over again?

Yes or no.
Have you any evidence that I purposely obfuscated my previous sentences by a factor of 2000%? Yes or no? Also, what exactly constitutes "nice"?



















*****I'm KIDDING. Don't hurt me! :) I fully intend to play with others in a rather pleasant manner.

Now, was that so hard?

*maybe too-broad grin*

Take care now. There's nothing wrong with being mildly obnoxious, but understand that there are times where it can be rather counterproductive.

--Scolo

He proformed The Kiss of Death..... Argued with the Mods...feel the wrath of the Mods!! :twisted: :wink: (Non- offensive to mods if it is taken offensivly)