Cognition, Reploid Productions and Ineptia: Atlantic
Spaceisland and Musez
24-04-2004, 21:49
Firstly - I would ask Reploid Productions to state here what telegram he sent me - because I did not see it and was probably sent when I was offline. When I came online, "Musez" was deleted.
Secondly, I would ask Ineptia to explain his telegram - it stated that a nation was to be unbanned after an invasion. I then sent him a telegram asking if it was alright to keep the former delegate out because his return would mean an immediate ousting. Pehaps his response was the same situation as that as RP.
Lastly, Cognition, why have you deleted my nation "Musez" when it was the nation "The Tank Engine" that carried out the crime. I again ask you to give me back Musez as I committed the so called 'crime' (which I staunchly object to) with TTE.
Deleting 2 of my nations is surely unheard of in a case like this. It is not as if both were in the UN, in which case I could accept your decision. There is no reason to have deleted both accounts and that is highly unfair and as far as I know unheard of. Please, once more, consider giving me back 'Musez'.
Crazy girl
24-04-2004, 21:51
poor coggy was right, so many spell his name wrong..
:wink:
3 am Eternal
24-04-2004, 23:05
Asking Ineptia to explain his telegram is a big mistake, he could persuade an Eskimo to remortgage his igloo to buy an industrial ice box.
Ask a harrassed Mod, not Jefferson Mod.
The rules are repeated all over this forum. Further explanation not required. In any event the ousted delegate didn't log on for day so you would have been okay.
Unfree People
24-04-2004, 23:34
"Cognition" isn't even very original and/or funny, either.
It's "Cogitation" 8)
:lol:
Spaceisland and Musez
24-04-2004, 23:46
I was rushing and never properly read Cogitation. Apologies. But would other players please keep this thread for the mods rather than a pointless chat.
Hoogabooga
25-04-2004, 00:21
Not everybody reads the forums due to pointless ramblings on many of them. How about stating the rules on a page that each nation would actually read on the site and not on these forums!!!!!
3 am Eternal
25-04-2004, 00:53
The rules as the currently stand are based on precedent, so there is no option but for them to be here in the Moderation forum.
When the current consultation exercise in codifying them is completed there will be the option to put them in the FAQ or on a seperate page.
Er, not a Mod, blah-blah
Not everybody reads the forums due to pointless ramblings on many of them. How about stating the rules on a page that each nation would actually read on the site and not on these forums!!!!!If invaders don't know the rules, they REALLY shouldn't be invading.
Incidently, if you DO want to learn the rules and how to invade properly and legally, join Gameplay Academy.
http://gameplay.board.dk3.com/2/index.php
Tuesday Heights
25-04-2004, 01:42
I love how people break the rules they agreed to abide by when they signed up to play a FREE game, and then, complain about not knowing these rules when they break them.
:roll:
The Bhoy Larsson
25-04-2004, 01:53
To be fair, if a new nation was to enter nationstates, how the heck are they supposed to gnaw there way through the red tape of can and cants. The Mods need to get there act together and get a rules page up on the actual site to avoid continual asking of questions.
To be fair, if a new nation was to enter nationstates, how the heck are they supposed to gnaw there way through the red tape of can and cants. The Mods need to get there act together and get a rules page up on the actual site to avoid continual asking of questions.Or of course theres the Terms and Conditions which you have to read, and the FAQ, and you generally don't drop fully formed into the world of region crashing. Most people have to learn a little first, and in the course of learning how to do it, they really should learn how to do it right.
Tuesday Heights
25-04-2004, 02:51
To be fair, if a new nation was to enter nationstates, how the heck are they supposed to gnaw there way through the red tape of can and cants. The Mods need to get there act together and get a rules page up on the actual site to avoid continual asking of questions.
It's not the mods job to make sure you know the rules, it's there job to enforce the rules.
Any intelligent human being knows there are rules for a game, and if one asks, they can find them easily.
Cogitation
25-04-2004, 05:00
Any intelligent human being knows there are rules for a game, and if one asks, they can find them easily.
While technically accurate, by using the phrase "intelligent human beings", you almost sound like you're flamebaiting by implying that some of the posters here are stupid.
I suggest avoiding that, as there's no need to antagonize people any more than strictly necessary. Just a friendly reminder.
--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Reploid Productions
25-04-2004, 05:21
Firstly - I would ask Reploid Productions to state here what telegram he sent me - because I did not see it and was probably sent when I was offline. When I came online, "Musez" was deleted.
My response basically stated that you must send the password to all natives in the region- whether they've been ejected or not.
As for the banning, it's a case of tough luck- a native that has been ejected must be unbanned immediately. They do not become delegate until the daily update, and only then if they have more endorsements than the current one.
http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/CGgoods/RepProdtheModsig2.JPG
~Evil Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~Master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku
The Most Glorious Hack
25-04-2004, 06:50
The Mods need to get there act together and get a rules page up on the actual site to avoid continual asking of questions.
Pity we don't code the game, huh?
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3 am Eternal
25-04-2004, 10:45
To be fair, if a new nation was to enter nationstates, how the heck are they supposed to gnaw there way through the red tape of can and cants. The Mods need to get there act together and get a rules page up on the actual site to avoid continual asking of questions.
As I did say above the way that the rules have evolved that is not possible. They're like common law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law), not roman law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Juris_Civilis), and as Hack added the Mods can't re-code the game anyway. That request belongs in technical, where you'll get "what rules?, they haven't been codified yet".
To be fair, if a new nation was to enter nationstates, how the heck are they supposed to gnaw there way through the red tape of can and cants. The Mods need to get there act together and get a rules page up on the actual site to avoid continual asking of questions.Or of course theres the Terms and Conditions which you have to read, and the FAQ, and you generally don't drop fully formed into the world of region crashing. Most people have to learn a little first, and in the course of learning how to do it, they really should learn how to do it right.
Perhaps 'L' plates could be attached to new players' regions? :wink:
Hey! I'm serious really...
1 Infinite Loop
25-04-2004, 11:08
well I guess my old gettinghelp request can be overlooked now,
as Musez is gone.
(at one point about three or two months ago, Musez and Spaceiland is Musez were both UN, I reported it but didnt keep track of the situation)
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3 am Eternal
25-04-2004, 11:11
Perhaps 'L' plates could be attached to new players' regions? :wink:
Hey! I'm serious really...
If they weren't so complicated to implement I think this and the tutorial idea are blinding. You could even put restrictions on "learner nations" you can move region once a week etectera. Any volunteer coders about?
Spaceisland and Musez
25-04-2004, 13:34
You have deleted The Tank Engine - fair enough.
As for the deletion of Musez who was not the delegate - unjust.
Please now, Cogitation, consider unbanning it. (rather than following pro-Atlantic world opinion!)
Tuesday Heights
25-04-2004, 16:27
You have deleted The Tank Engine - fair enough.
As for the deletion of Musez who was not the delegate - unjust.)
Why don't you just walk away? This isn't going to happen the way you want it. Anyone involved in griefing is target for deletion, as they also are accomplishes in breaking the rules.
<--- not a moderator.
Spaceisland and Musez
25-04-2004, 19:12
I am fighting for justice and that knows no surrender!
I am fighting for justice and that knows no surrender!
And you won't be the first valiant crusader to fight against the oppressive mods in your glorious battle. :roll:
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Persecuted Redeemed
27-04-2004, 17:10
Unfortuneately, glory happens to be overrated when it comes to disagreeing with the mods.
And you aren't going to get your nation back, if not simply for the fact that they want to spite you for calling them unjust.
Believe me, I had almost the same thing happen to me. It ain't gonna happen.