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The Region of Solarius is displaying a link to my personal website in its world fact book.

I have asked the founder to remove the link and he has not done so.

Please note: The link to a location on mindspew does not related in any way shape or form to the region of Solarius which currently exists and is therefore not relevant to that region.

The domain name mindspew.com belongs to me personally and is paid for by me personally. I humbly request that moderators assist to have this removed.

Thank you,

Grekkin

And why can't he post a web address? Anyone can do that, that is the point of getting a website.

<------------- not a mod

Kwas out.


P.S. was this a pathetic attempt to create traffic.....?

And why can't he post a web address? Anyone can do that, that is the point of getting a website.

<------------- not a mod

Kwas out.


P.S. was this a pathetic attempt to create traffic.....?

It is his website, paid for by him, and he can dictate who displays it and who doesn't. It can also cause huge amounts of traffic on a site this big, causing his bandwidth to go over the limit.

I dont think he wants people to think badly of his site

btw who hosts your site and how much u pay?

Kwas out.

You can ask, but he is free to link to your site if he wants to. It doesn't appear that there is any real violation.

It is his website, paid for by him, and he can dictate who displays it and who doesn't. It can also cause huge amounts of traffic on a site this big, causing his bandwidth to go over the limit.

False.

There are no laws about posting web site addresses anywhere on the books, therefore, anyone can offer free press in the right circumstances to any web site they want to today.

Yes, anybody can link to a website. And the main page that is on that website creates like, the smallest possible use of bandwidth.

Kwas out.

I'm not a lawyer, and would never pretend to be. But my Dad is , and so I have grown up with a feel for how the law works.

When you make something, you own the rights to it. This means you are allowed to dictate who has association with it.

I would have thought that being the owner (and therefore also partly creator of the site), Grekkin owns the rights to the site. Therefore, I think he is allowed to request that the advertisment of his site is removed.

Even if this is not the case, in keeping with the atmosphere of NS, I would have thought it considerate of the nation in question to remove the link at the owner of the site's request.

Just a thought.

You can ask, but he is free to link to your site if he wants to. It doesn't appear that there is any real violation.

It is his website, paid for by him, and he can dictate who displays it and who doesn't. It can also cause huge amounts of traffic on a site this big, causing his bandwidth to go over the limit.

False.

There are no laws about posting web site addresses anywhere on the books, therefore, anyone can offer free press in the right circumstances to any web site they want to today.

Farflorin and Tuesday Heights: Incorrect.

Fyreheart: Correct.

From the Terms & Conditions:

You may submit content to NationStates.net so long as it is not obscene, illegal, threatening, malicious, or defamatory, does not invade the privacy or infringe the intellectual property of a third party, and does not constitute "spam."

In my judgement, linking to the website of someone whose owner doesn't want to be linked to constitutes a violation of the NationStates Terms of Service.

From the region "Solarius":

3 days ago
The Holy Empire of John Guy

Hi

3 days ago
The Holy Empire of John Guy

I posted the first message W00T!!!!

3 days ago
The Military District States of RedPeace

Everybody here, come to the wounderful and awsome region called Ununited Nations. Do not let the name scare you away, the region fully supports UN nations. Contact the Founder if you wish to join the super region.

2 days ago
The Holy Empire of John Guy

Where is everone???

2 days ago
The Holy Empire of John Guy

Whats going on???

2 days ago
The Colony of Durtistania

Hey John Guy!

We moved, remember? And were going to recreate the region with an elected founder etc etc bal blah blah.

Well, Solihul beat us to it and we don't have a CLUE who he/she/it (in case of transvesticsm...transvestici...tr...cross dressing) so we ain't comin' back till we know who set the region up.

Capice? Also, there is much talk of 'to heck with the name' and suchlike. You'll know when you try to go to the Embassy board and get a 404.

Meantimem would Solihul PLEASE remove that note from the World Factbook? Ta everso.

Hugs!

Durtistan...ia.

7 hours ago
The Overtaxed Underpaid People of Grekkin

Oops- Little Correction Solihull - I am not a resident of Solarius... ~lil grin~

Again, I ask that you remove the link to my website. Again I remind you - it is my personal space - my domain name... etc.

This is NOT the Solarius the forums were built for, as I have explained to you three times already.

TA,

Grekkin

If you wish to insist that the link be removed, then I can do it. However, I have to ask: If this isn't the "Solarius" you set up the forums for, then what region did you set the forums up for?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Looks like a regional politcs issue more then anything else.

Farflorin and Tuesday Heights: Incorrect.

According to NS rules we may be wrong, but according to internet protocal we are right.

IF we weren't correct, that means ANY time a search engine spiders any sort of web site, they are breaking the law.

Regional politics? Sort of.

The timeline runs like this: We asked the Mods if they could install a Founder for us. They said no.

We polled the Region and decided that we would quit Solarius, intending to recreate it after it had deleted. Being the democtratic region we are, we elected someone to "found" the region. The region natives who chose not to participate in the elections/discussions were informed, given a week to sort themselves out and then were ejected or left to the holding region, the Lost Continent of Mu (where we remain).

Solihull, not a member of the region, but sitting alone in a region called Solarian Prime, beat us to the re-creation part. Fair play, that's Nation States legal as far as we know. We did check with some of the oldest members of the region and no one knows who this Solihull is.

When we realized that Solihull had recreated the region of Solarius, I sent him a TG and asked who he was. It was posible in our minds, at that time, that this was a well wishing Solarian who decided to get the name before some other disgruntled person did. Unfortnately - he appears to be a disgruntled person. We have a few :? . But I tried - thinking, if this was a ligit deal, we would all move back.

Solihull did not reply to me. Solihull did not reply to our Delegate. So I TG'd again. This time saying, you need to remove the link or I'll ask the mods to do it. He replied alright saying the "Mods can't help you this time, pal" etc. etc.

I replied and said - look I said 24 hours (12 hours ago) you still have 12, then I am off to the mods for assistance.

My spouse, Durtistan, posted on the regional boards -I posted on the regional boards, and Solihull received some polite and some less polite requests/demands to remove the link.

Solihul has been asked repeatedly to remove the link to mindspew.com
He/she did, briefly, and then added the link again.

None of the people that were in Solarius when we left are there now; none of them want to return. It is therefore NOT the 'original' Solarius and not the Solarius I built the boards for. Those residents are now in The Lost Continent of Mu and we are currently in process of determining just what Region name we want. Then we will be changing the name on the Forum ...

btw who hosts your site and how much u pay?

Kwas out.

Kwas,

Please feel free to TG me for the information requested. I will send you a Telegram regarding my webhosts and costs. Its an amazing deal!

Thanks,

Grekkin

Farflorin and Tuesday Heights: Incorrect.

According to NS rules we may be wrong, but according to internet protocal we are right.

IF we weren't correct, that means ANY time a search engine spiders any sort of web site, they are breaking the law.

Yes, but on Max's corner of the internet, Max's rules are what count.

tag

this sounds like a little pile of silly to me.

as I recall any internet link can be linked anywhere, that dilly dutch dudes case was overturned.

funny though most webmasters would love to have more traffic Heck you may have made a friend, or more importantly, did you try to grief the region then get beat to the refound by a native/person who liked the name?

come on, that is what it sounds like to me.

this sounds like a little pile of silly to me.

as I recall any internet link can be linked anywhere, that dilly dutch dudes case was overturned.

funny though most webmasters would love to have more traffic Heck you may have made a friend, or more importantly, did you try to grief the region then get beat to the refound by a native/person who liked the name?

come on, that is what it sounds like to me.

No actually, we didn't try to grief the region.

The members of the region had discussed the issue of not having a founder and the security risk involved. We discussed the options, asked the mods to appoint a founder (our delegate did this) and were turned down - we understand the reasoning.

So - we decided to all leave. We posted on the region boards for weeks, sent telegrams to all the natives and then did it.

We were beat to the punch. Fine. That is fair play and a risk we discussed and understood before the manuever (hence the reason we didn't cry grief).

Do understand - we lost not ONE person who was actively involved in the region. Not one. So we're cool with that. We are discussing our new name.

While most people would want the publicity, I am not most people. I do not require excess traffic to that section of my site. It exists for one purpose and one purpose only - the general public would be wholey confused by what is shown there otherwise I would have submitted it to Google! When I am ready, I will build the portion of the site that the domain name was intended for, and then I will choose where and when to publicize. I am quite adept at that, as I own SEVERAL websites.

Anyway - silly as it may seem to you - the link has been removed and for that I am eternally greatful.

IF we weren't correct, that means ANY time a search engine spiders any sort of web site, they are breaking the law.

But those websites don't mind if you visit them. The one in question obviously does. So you can't compare it like that.

If he wanted a website to be accessable to only a few people, he could put a password protect on, and you can shield yourself from spiders/bots by dissallowing them access to anything in your site

Kwas out.