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Seeing as though my previous two threads are locked, I had to start a new one for a single question.

Who reads the mail at admin@nationstates.net ?

Nobody

Seeing as though my previous two threads are locked, I had to start a new one for a single question.

Who reads the mail at admin@nationstates.net ?

Only [violet] and Max..

Listen complain about me all you wish. You can't start a thread with "What's your favorite soft p0rn" and not expect me to lock it. Then you start a thread that b*tches about the mods locking it and when I try with a little humor to explain why you can't because there are children on this site, you insult me.. so complain all you like.

That is not what happened at all.
Talk down to me all you like, I value NationStates as a website and will see to it that it remains well-run and moderated, the work that I have done in relation to forum admin. has shown that potential mods have to be seen to not dabble in the 'bitchiness' that goes on, which I'm sad to say, you have appeared to do on a number of occasions.
I cannot stress enough that this is not a personal attack on you, rather on your modding abilities and online demeanor.

That is not what happened at all.
Talk down to me all you like, I value NationStates as a website and will see to it that it remains well-run and moderated, the work that I have done in relation to forum admin. has shown that potential mods have to be seen to not dabble in the 'bitchiness' that goes on, which I'm sad to say, you have appeared to do on a number of occasions.
I cannot stress enough that this is not a personal attack on you, rather on your modding abilities and online demeanor.


Well according to what I see you have been a member of this site for a couple of days.. would you like to share with the group who you're? Or could it be that you have been deleted before? The only one with a bad attitude here that I can see is you. I say it is what happened, any other mod or admin who wishes to see the thread in question is more then welcome to.

You may also not call me a b*tch thank you very much and then simply by stating you're not personally attacking me make it so. You also insulted me on the other thread. I would suggest you run off to make your complaint and perhaps not try to bait me because this is twice now that you have insulted me.. Just because you say it's not an insult doesn't make it so!

None of this is called for, I have lodged a complaint with the necessary department.
Especially asking me to reveal my original nation, when it is obvious you know what it is.

None of this is called for, I have lodged a complaint with the necessary department.
Especially asking me to reveal my original nation, when it is obvious you know what it is.

If you wish your old nation to be brought back.. that should be sent to the "getting help section" the admins don't take those requests.

I am not a deleted nation.

I am not a deleted nation.

This is your main nation? Then I guess you don't recall me before I was a mod. Not that it really makes a difference. *Shrug*

The *shrug*, the 'I guess you don't' are just baiting me, I'd ask that you stop behaving that way.
Also, I most certainly do remember you from when you were a player, regardless of what the date says on this nation.

*takes a breath*
Seriously Steph, the way you behave on here is horrible, acting like you don't care, when in reality it is plainly obvious that you care more than anyone could possibly believe you do, I would normally not go on such a rant, but of late your attitude and choice of words have left me no choice but to vent.
I hope you can step back far enough to see what you look like from out here.

The *shrug*, the 'I guess you don't' are just baiting me, I'd ask that you stop behaving that way.
Also, I most certainly do remember you from when you were a player, regardless of what the date says on this nation.

*takes a breath*
Seriously Steph, the way you behave on here is horrible, acting like you don't care, when in reality it is plainly obvious that you care more than anyone could possibly believe you do, I would normally not go on such a rant, but of late your attitude and choice of words have left me no choice but to vent.
I hope you can step back far enough to see what you look like from out here.

Umm.. are you or are you not the one who claimed you know me way back before I was a mod? I can quote the thread if you like. You may read into that what you like. All I was saying that it didn't matter that it wasn't true. Cause it doesn't. That's not baiting. You're on very thin ice here. Just stop.

Thanks!

The *shrug*, the 'I guess you don't' are just baiting me, I'd ask that you stop behaving that way.
Also, I most certainly do remember you from when you were a player, regardless of what the date says on this nation.

*takes a breath*
Seriously Steph, the way you behave on here is horrible, acting like you don't care, when in reality it is plainly obvious that you care more than anyone could possibly believe you do, I would normally not go on such a rant, but of late your attitude and choice of words have left me no choice but to vent.
I hope you can step back far enough to see what you look like from out here.

Umm.. are you or are you not the one who claimed you know me way back before I was a mod? I can quote the thread if you like. You may read into that what you like. All I was saying that it didn't matter that it wasn't true. Cause it doesn't. That's not baiting. You're on very thin ice here. Just stop.

Thanks!

1) If it doesn't matter, it hardly requires posts to demonstrate its irrelevance.
2) If it does matter, I am the one who claimed I knew you before you were a mod.
3) Why should I stop? It was explicitly explained to me that I am allowed to post my feelings on the matter.
4) Thanks *shrug* LoL

Fights between moderators and someone with a semi-reasonable complaint aside from that they're being obnoxious have always amused me. Usually neither parties do it right, and they end up hating each other. Not so for all forums, but many. See? you're already going back and forth trying to make the other guy sound like an idiot.

That's all that has happened since I asked what happened, baiting me into saying something personal. It isn't mod behaviour, it's player behaviour, and poor player behaviour.

Fights between moderators and someone with a semi-reasonable complaint aside from that they're being obnoxious have always amused me. Usually neither parties do it right, and they end up hating each other. Not so for all forums, but many. See? you're already going back and forth trying to make the other guy sound like an idiot.

It's no biggy.. I don't hate any one :)

Hooray for online mod/nation battles. Of course, the nation usually ends up beaing DEATed. But its still very fun. I'm wondering how long Haarps/The New Girl will last.

Hooray for online mod/nation battles. Of course, the nation usually ends up beaing DEATed. But its still very fun. I'm wondering how long Haarps/The New Girl will last.

Me too.
:roll:

That's all that has happened since I asked what happened, baiting me into saying something personal. It isn't mod behaviour, it's player behaviour, and poor player behaviour.

Funny. What he said wouldn't be percieved as baiting unless you were ready to make a personal comment anyway. All your post throughout this have been based on the theory that Steph has been trying to victimize you for no reason. To the uninformed observer (me) it looks like he's been trying to calm you down and you've been insulting him while the aforesaid observer is trying to figure out what the hell your mad about. :wink: But hey, what do I know?

The New Girl, why don't you just f*ck off, you post disgusting shit; here are children online

That's all that has happened since I asked what happened, baiting me into saying something personal. It isn't mod behaviour, it's player behaviour, and poor player behaviour.

Funny. What he said wouldn't be percieved as baiting unless you were ready to make a personal comment anyway. All your post throughout this have been based on the theory that Steph has been trying to victimize you for no reason. To the uninformed observer (me) it looks like he's been trying to calm you down and you've been insulting him while the aforesaid observer is trying to figure out what the hell your mad about. :wink: But hey, what do I know?

Welcome to NationStates, where noone knows anything.

Some of us like to pretend we know things though :D

Oh, and btw, Steph's a girl.


Hi Steph!

The New Girl, why don't you just f*ck off, you post disgusting shit; here are children online

Speaking of children, are you assuming we cant figure out what character you're replacing with an asterix? And you didnt even make an effort to diguise "shit"...

To Haarps: Yes, but isn't it lovely that we all pretend we do?

The New Girl, why don't you just f*ck off, you post disgusting shit; here are children online

Come on, please, this is not called for. Really.

Some of us like to pretend we know things though :D

Oh, and btw, Steph's a girl.


Hi Steph!

hehe Hi BLARGistania, I was just about to point out I'm in fact a she.. thank you very much for correcting that for me ;)

*returns from the shed* :D
I've mellowed somewhat now, strange how a trip to the shed can do that...
I had one thread locked for a legitimate reason, and a second one that is so far unexplained.
In all honesty here, Steph's tone isn't very helpful in situations such as this, I meant no flaming at any point, this is simply the way I speak naturally, if that is the way Steph speaks naturally, I apologise for any offense she may have taken by my words, but that really isn't how a mod is supposed to be in a place like this.

this is a word taken from every day language which small children use, too

even in germany this word is used

Libereco: Jesus man, go placidly amidst the noise and haste.

This is unrelated, but I've got a flat income tax of 61% and rising :)

You're right...

*returns from the shed* :D
I've mellowed somewhat now, strange how a trip to the shed can do that...
I had one thread locked for a legitimate reason, and a second one that is so far unexplained.
In all honesty here, Steph's tone isn't very helpful in situations such as this, I meant no flaming at any point, this is simply the way I speak naturally, if that is the way Steph speaks naturally, I apologise for any offense she may have taken by my words, but that really isn't how a mod is supposed to be in a place like this.

Honestly, I have no beef with you and really, why should I? I didn't warn you or any thing.. I just locked the thread and thank you for admitting it was a good lock. We do have to be some what careful of what we allow and don't, we do market NS to children. In fact the majority of players on NS are in fact underage. As for the second topic, I locked it because you were basically flamebaiting the mods. I say mods because you didn't know it was me who had locked it at first, "Damn you mods" well I could live with that.. and really if you go back and read my response telling you why I had locked the first thread, I'm sure you might be able to see the humor in it??? maybe?

Then however you jumped down my throat like 90 miles an hour and insulted me quite well.. (you're pretty good at it I might add) Then I issued you a warning and was going to leave it at that. Then you wanted an address to complain about me to which I provided. At that point the thread which was not really good to start with was furbar indeed. That is why I locked it.

I think you just assumed some thing of me that just wasn't there. It's ok. I don't hold grudges and I have nothing against you. I just ask that you please follow the rules of NS and don't insult me. I really don't think I'm asking too much.

I hope that explains better to you where I was coming from. As it stands.. you're fine. I have no intention of DEAT'ing you. Just don't insult me again please.. 8)

I must admit that most of my reasoning behind such measures lay in events not as recent, and I apologise for such an outburst.
I really don't like the tone you took though Steph, it was very much stirring the pot.
*holds peace sign high*
*lowers it so others can read it*

I must admit that most of my reasoning behind such measures lay in events not as recent, and I apologise for such an outburst.
I really don't like the tone you took though Steph, it was very much stirring the pot.
*holds peace sign high*
*lowers it so others can read it*

It really was just my sense of humor.. perhaps not every one's taste..I thought it was a little funny... I guess not. This is what you freaked out on me for..

Well, this thread is going to be productive, NOT! LOL.

Lets see, a site that markets it's self to children.. and p0rn.. hmmm does any one see a problem with that picture here? Oh, I do! As does the owner of this site and therefore it's against the rules.

You may damn us mods all you like.. but you may not post p0rn or talk about what your most beloved hard/soft/mushy/etc p0rn site is.

Ok, now that we all understand each other.. you may go back to cursing the mods for enforcing the rules.. ;)

Stephanie
Game Moderator

You don't see at all where I might of been being a little humorous? Keeping in mind the title of your thread was "Damn you mods"

I can see the humour in it, now that I'm looking for it, but I certainly wasn't expecting it to be humourous when you posted it.
Nonetheless, the sign has spoken.
*points to peace sign, which has spoken*

Haarps, The New Girl, etc. Quit harrassing Steph. Your thread was locked for a damn good reason, and you know it. You started this thread purely to bait Steph, and then attempt to turn it around to make it appear she was baiting you. Just...Stop. I'd rather not have to open up the Mod Centre on Easter Sunday - but if I feel it necessary, believe me, I will.

This thread was finished half an hour ago, there is no need for you to bring it back up whatsoever, all differences have been settled, all that remains now is another mod baiting.

This thread was finished half an hour ago, there is no need for you to bring it back up whatsoever, all differences have been settled, all that remains now is another mod baiting.

I believe I said Quit. Attempts to bait myself will only end in your deletion at this point.

*puts on cockney accent*
COME SEE THE INJUSTICE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!
HELP HELP I'M BEING REPRESSED!

Three

I've apologised, I meant it, chill out man.

I decided to do a puppet check and discovered UN multies.

"Haarps" and "Sortius" have been ejected from the United Nations.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

That's fair, though Sortius isn't mine, it was just registered on one of my machines, check the last few IPs, they're more likely a uni account than my dodgy iprimus.

Actually, the IPs the multies were on are not from a Uni...

Mine is not a uni account, Sortius has access to multiple ISPs, Sortius and I were both registered through this carrier, whereas his recent logons would come from one of his. Either way, I can't remember having much to do with the UN aside from the occasional 'you have been brought into compliance' telegrams, but I'm sure Sortius will request reinstatement.

I'm sure he'd appreciate a telegram from the mods explaining it, if it isn't a hassle.

Um...I dont think you quite understand. We dont go off of just IP addresses.

I'm afraid I don't understand. What are you getting at?

I believe the mods check log in times and many of the other stuff that your computer sends to sites.

[not a mod]

I still don't understand what NS was getting at, I have never UN multied, it may seem that I have due to the sharing of my machine, but I was never involved in any UN related activities, unlike Sortius, which I must stress again is not a puppet of mine.

Although I may be in the same region as Haarps and other people, I am most certainly not a clone that Haarps has made.

1. Look at the IP logs, mine will mostly be in the 134.148.X.X B-class domain (newcastle.edu.au), although I do show up occasionally in the same domain as Haarps, this is when I am at his house.

2. I am not active in the forums, and my nation is not as well kept as Haarps (for me, a clear sign of different people).

3. You people are retarded... I've never seen such a load of shite, except on a forum... wait... this is a forum, where everyone has a voice and is retarded enough to use it, at length. You can see from my post history that this is either my first, or one of my first posts.

So I tell you all, call off the dogs, otherwise you will all seem like a bigger bunch of retards than you already do... I'm here for the game, not for your retarded assumptions.

Although I may be in the same region as Haarps and other people, I am most certainly not a clone that Haarps has made.

1. Look at the IP logs, mine will mostly be in the 134.148.X.X B-class domain (newcastle.edu.au), although I do show up occasionally in the same domain as Haarps, this is when I am at his house.

2. I am not active in the forums, and my nation is not as well kept as Haarps (for me, a clear sign of different people).

3. You people are retarded... I've never seen such a load of shite, except on a forum... wait... this is a forum, where everyone has a voice and is retarded enough to use it, at length. You can see from my post history that this is either my first, or one of my first posts.

So I tell you all, call off the dogs, otherwise you will all seem like a bigger bunch of retards than you already do... I'm here for the game, not for your retarded assumptions.

Do you think you could possibly toss out "retarded" a few more times? There might be a few people left taking you seriously.

1. We go by more than just IP scans for discovering UN Multis. We use a series of methods to see if someone is a UN Multi. Furthermore, Cogitation is quite the UN Multi Ring buster. He knows what he's doing, and is exceptionally accurate. He's to multi's what Enodia is to UN Proposals.

2. Forum activity means absolutely nothing. I have over 20 puppets, and none of them are nearly as active as my main nation. If anything, that would be evidence for the same person owning an account, as the player is likely to focus on one "main" nation.

3. Yeah, this point was little more than flaming. Knock it off.

Hack, I respect your moddom, I've always seen you to be fairhanded and concise in your actions, though I must point out that I am most definitely not Sortius, and the way this was handled was atrocious.

Hmm, let's address this point by point:


This is possible, however we state is several different places that if multiple UN nations are accessed from the same computer that they may be caught by the Multi scan. We cannot take your word for the fact that two different people control these nations. Sorry.

This is not a clear sign at all. I control 3 nations on a daily basis and each have different upkeeps and spend different amounts of time on the forums.

Insulting the moderators is a very bad idea, no matter what the forum or game. I'd highly recommend that you don't do so. This post of yours technically counts as a flame. Personally, though, I am going to assume that you didn't mean to word this quite as strongly as you did, and so will not issue a warning.


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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

How about checking the current IPs...and reinstating Sortius, this really had nothing to do with him at all, and I am not he.

The more you defend yourself and Sortius, the guiltier you both look.

Lay off for a bit, let the mods do what they do. If they find you are right, they'll do what is right.

This is not the general forum, this concerns you in no way, and this is the only avenue we have to defend ourselves.
Furthermore, it doesn't matter how guilty we look to you, as the IP/log times will prove our story as soon as the mods get round to checking it out.

...the IP/log times will prove our story as soon as the mods get round to checking it out.

Please see my prior post regarding accessing multiple UN nations through a single computer.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

I understand that Sal, but we are both at our respective houses now, and the majority of accesses to Sortius will have come from the range that he is on currently, rather than mine.

As i said in my subject line this is a Travesty,

I noticed that i was not removed from the UN although I am also in Uberchron, haved logged into my nation from Haarps Computer and have also logged in to my nation from probably very similar or even the same IP's as Sortius. (like now, because he's sitting right next to me and we are sharing the same computer).

Being an external spectator to todays happenings, i am in no place to comment on haarps comments even though i may have my own opinion of how Mods have handled the matter. However being the UN Delegate for Uberchron and being involved very much involved in the regional happenings and knowing both sortius and haarps very well i am in the position to comment on whether on not Sortius is just a "Puppet" for haarps. I can tell you with 100% assurance that Sortius and Haarps are definitley NOT the same person and sortius is NOT a puppet for Haarps. The answer to this has to unfortunatley be boiled down to the real world. And loathe as i am to mix the two i will on this occasion and henceforth accept any tirades aimed at me that this post makes me responsible for.

Basically, Sortius was introduced to NS by Haarps who has 2 nations, sortius is my fiance and then introduced it to me. Because he was staying at Haarps house that weekend he made his nation from one of haarps computers, i made mine from our place. Because we moved into a place afterwards with no internet (until recently) the only time Sortius could access his Nation was from Haarps's place, whereas i (and this would explain why i have not been accused of being a puppet of Haarps) mainly log on from a computer at my workplace.

That is it, very simple.

Ah, NationStates Moderation. It's like the gossip column of the Forums.

Scoop pics of Beckham's hair next week.

Can't we all just get along? 8)