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Another nation of my acquaintance has been accused of treason to his region based on reported observation of his IP address by means undisclosed. Having devoted considerable service and creativity to his region this is distressing, and he suspects it is an attempt to undermine leadership in his region.

1) Is anyone aware of any means for disproving such a charge?

2) Do any rules apply to observation of IP addresses, as invasion of privacy or other high crimes and misdemeanors?

3) Could someone summarize what is known about the effects of use of AOL or RoadRunner in IP address assignment?

Greetings...I'm not an NS Mod, but am the owner and Admin of several forums.

1) If the means aren't disclosed, and you don't know exactly what your friend is being accused of and why, it would be hard to disprove such a claim. I'm pretty well-versed in forum security, so if you could find out more details and contact me, I may be able to offer some help.

2) IP addresses are available to board owners for security purposes, and you should know that every time you register on a forum. It's not illegal to view IPs or use them for board security.

3) AOL is dynamic, but sometimes there may be ways to discern one user from another. I think the same applies for RoadRunner.

Another nation of my acquaintance has been accused of treason to his region based on reported observation of his IP address by means undisclosed. Having devoted considerable service and creativity to his region this is distressing, and he suspects it is an attempt to undermine leadership in his region.

1) Is anyone aware of any means for disproving such a charge?
If the accusation is that a Mod or Mods have established that he is multi-ing (which is an assumption I'm making, since your post was not at all clear on this point), you'll have your work cut out for you. IP addresses are far from the only thing we use to investigate multi-ing cases, so it's more than likely that there's more evidence than just that.

2) Do any rules apply to observation of IP addresses, as invasion of privacy or other high crimes and misdemeanors?
No. It's not an invasion of privacy, not least because your computer sends out its IP address all over the place when you're logged on to the net. It's not anything else illegal either.

It's not a UN multis issue -- it is purely an inter-regional loyalty question. His IP # showed up on a list an informer passed to his region's founder of nations in contact with a very hostile region. The founder seems to be taking the list as prima facie evidence. My friend convincingly says he never was in any contact.

Does anyone know if AOL assigns IP #s repeatedly to different AOL users or to a bunch of users at the same time? That would explain those of us who use it getting "you have treid too many times to sign on" at start up. That might account for my friend's problem--remote though the probability seems.

It's not a UN multis issue -- it is purely an inter-regional loyalty question.
Wouldn't this belong in Gameplay then? :?

That's certainly possible, although my original query was about rules violations. (Somewhere I formed the notion IP address gathering was a no-no.)

Or maybe Technical? Somebody want to move this?

But if anyone knows anything about how two computers can show the same IP# on a discussion board, please say so, cause that stiuation is becoming pretty hopeless.

But if anyone knows anything about how two computers can show the same IP# on a discussion board, please say so, cause that stiuation is becoming pretty hopeless.

AOHell can cause that. If I do an IP scan of an AOL user on this board, it'll usually return 150 some nations as all posting from that IP.

Roadrunner, however, does not use proxies as AOHell does. Meaning, a roadrunner cable modem IP address is usually fairly specific to a single computer/connection.

AOHell can cause that. If I do an IP scan of an AOL user on this board, it'll usually return 150 some nations as all posting from that IP.

That explains why sometimes it tells me that my ip is blocked.


Because of and idiot and his password errors.

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AOHell can cause that. If I do an IP scan of an AOL user on this board, it'll usually return 150 some nations as all posting from that IP.

That explains why sometimes it tells me that my ip is blocked.


Because of and idiot and his password errors.

Get a new ISP! ;)
Mavenu, was there any point in tagging the thread?