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My region, federation of trabia, has been hacked and stolen from me. He hacked in, rejected me and my UN delagate, and put a password on my region. My main nation, which i founded the region with, was Laosing. He recently stole that too, a few hours ago. All this has happened today. I alerted moderators but i have no idea when ill hear back. Right now I have a nation, Final Fantasy haven, that can be contacted. It amy be stolen too though. Heres the whole story in its order of events.

4 or 5 days ago- I start my region, federation of Trabia, and work to get ppl to join. Because of my interest in Final Fantasy, I decided I would ask them as well as some of my friends to join. The response was good and yesterday i had 25 nations.

2 days ago- Ppl in Final Fantasy region (FF) started to get angry cuz about 10 ppl had left them and come to my region. They posted negative messages about my region.

Yesterday- Everything was running fine, but due to the unrest in FF i decided to make a nation that i could put in their so i could monitor them and have access to the message board if i needed it.

Today- It started when a nation formed called "Anti-Trabia" and they moved to FF. they are qouted here:
--------From FF region Message board-------
4 hours ago-
I have a master plan that will destroy The Federation of Trabia.

5 hours ago-
The Republic of Anti-Trabia Watch and see the empire crumble before your eyes. Keep posted.

5 hours ago-
The Republic of Anti-Trabia The Federation of Trabia is now under our control. The regional password is in my hands.
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They then proceeded to hack into my region under my nations name, reject me and my delegate Cruchy, and put a password on my region. Luckily I had another nation still in the region called "Final Fantasy Haven". I alerted all the members of FOT that it was not me who had done this. Later on, they changed the password again and changfed the factbook to:

World Factbook Entry: The Federation of Trabia is now under the control and ownership of Final Fantasy.

I was very mad that they had hacked and stolen my region, but I still had my nation Laosing. NOT FOR LONG.....
They then hacked my nation from the rejected realms and stole it as well, and changed the motto to "I surrender to anti-Trabia". I now have my nation in FF region and a seperate nation "Final Fantasy Haven" in the rejected realms. Im left with no power, no region, and I feel violated. He then has the nerve to send me a message from my stolen nation:

Hello, and grettings from the best nation on earth. You will find that I am much more powerful than your "law". Enjoy your stay in the Rejected Realms.

This really steamed my clams!!!! I want action and want to know if he could have hacked further into my computer. I want my nation and region back. I would also like to thank The CDM Cofee drinking Emirate of the Isle of Orleans for all his help and advice with this situation. Please moderators, do something to stop this.

What is much more likely than an actual "hacking" is that the other player was able to guess your password. Regardless, it's still a serious issue.

It seems you are correct, Enodia. I never once stated that I "hacked" into Laosing's computer. These are all false accusations. It seems, you childish fiend, that YOU are the "immature" aspect of the game. You cannot accept defeat, and therefore you alert the authorities. You have no evidence that I was "hacked" into your computer, friend, and you will never have any. I would never do such a travesty. I am a loyal soldier to the region of Final Fantasy and you must accept defeat. All hope is not lost, however. You can regain your region by meeting the demands I have posted on the message board of the Federation of Trabia. Thank you for your time, sir. Good day. :D

-The Republic of Anti-Trabia-

This is crazy what the hell do you want this is a game!!!! I cant stand this but will not accept that ppl can do this and will fight till the end.

YOU DID NOT GUESS MY PASSWORD. NOBODY COULD GUESS IT BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING PERSONAL. IF THATS WHAT YOU DID, WHAT WAS THE PASSWORD I USED HUH?

Since the guessing password has been eliminated because seriously, nobody could guess it, that leaves one way. Hacking. You cant get out of this, you are in BIG TROUBLE. Hacking is against the law I beleive, and you cant steal nations either.

IN CASE YOU DIDNT KNOW BECAUSE YOU DIDNT READ THE ABOVE, MY NATION WAS STOLEN AFTER MY REGION.

This is also against the rules. There should be no question about this, action should be take immediately. Moderators, this is where you come in.

So, what was my password bigshot? There is NO WAY you could have guessed it.

Ascender.

Hell no im not meeting any of your demands. This is so not cool.....

Seriously dude, whats your problem??? Why did you do this??? Tell the truth I really, really would like to know. I want to know before you are permanently banned from this game.

Would you like to chat, Laosing? I would. Contact me on my AIM screen name. Post me for it.

By the way, this is the nation I created to give me access to the Final Fantasy boards to tell of this horrible event and theft. This is still the original Laosing, but I have had to use new nations since Laosing was stolen earlier today.

Once again, would you like to chat?

You know, this all happened because someone didn't like someone else for that. Those Nations that moved to Lao region chose to. The only one acting Immature is the one whom stole the Region, Stole the Region owner Nation, and so on and so forth. So, indeed, Anti whatever, you are the immature being here.

I don't believe someone would "Hack" however. I wouldn't dare do such a thing, plus I know not how to anyway, never wanted to learn. So, intern, why would someone do such a thing that, as I have seen on these shows on the History Channel, Disocvery Channel, and TLC, or whatever ones showed that show, one of them, is detecable. I dunno, really, and I don't care to keep on talking about "hacking." Tought it was wrong to do and I never have looked into it with much interest, or even seriously. I like to keep the laws I live by in America just that, kept laws that were never broken.

Anywho......

If the nations in question would like to move their petty arguments somewhere else, that would be great. This thread is for the discussion of the actual event that occurred, rather than name-calling and shouts of "did not!", "did too!". Kindly save that for the schoolyard.

There has been moer than enough name calling, but this has got to end and i must get justice. He jsut ejected every single nation from my region.

AND HOW DO YOU "guess" ASCENDER?? HE USED SOME SORT OF ILLEGAL METHOD TO DO THIS, AND WOULD NOT TELL ME HOW HE GOT MY PASSWORD. ALL HE SAID: ASCENDER. ISUZU ASCENDER.

I am actually quite alarmed and worried about the methods he retreived my password, Ascender. If he could get that, can he get credit card #s and stuff? I dont beleive this thread should be locked or stopped this is now VERY important. My security is at risk, and I need answers now, and justice.

I don't play Final Fantasy, but a quick google search shows plenty of sites that mention both "final fantasy" and "ascender", many of them seem to be walkthrough guides, in Spanish.

Seems that if someone was trying to break into a Final Fantasy themed region, guessing key items/people would be a place to start. Seems that this is something that required free-time, not a "hacking" program.

More likely he's got spyware on you, somehow.

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He probably used some form of keystroke logging on you. It is extremely unlikely he hacked the site - besides being near impossible, we would have heard of it, and quite possibly the site would be temporarily down.

Get adaware, friend...

I don't play Final Fantasy, but a quick google search shows plenty of sites that mention both "final fantasy" and "ascender", many of them seem to be walkthrough guides, in Spanish.

Seems that if someone was trying to break into a Final Fantasy themed region, guessing key items/people would be a place to start. Seems that this is something that required free-time, not a "hacking" program.

You're more than probably right, but doesn't a nation get locked if someone tries to enter an incorrect password more than three times?

Final Fantasy dude (boy who had his nation stolen), when was the last time you logged in before it was stolen? Were you ever locked out because someone had tried to access it?

I was under the impression that the region was "stolen", not the nation.

...They then proceeded to hack into my region under my nations name, reject me and my delegate Cruchy, and put a password on my region. Luckily I had another nation still in the region called "Final Fantasy Haven". I alerted all the members of FOT that it was not me who had done this. Later on, they changed the password again and changfed the factbook to:

World Factbook Entry: The Federation of Trabia is now under the control and ownership of Final Fantasy.

I was very mad that they had hacked and stolen my region, but I still had my nation Laosing. NOT FOR LONG.....
They then hacked my nation from the rejected realms and stole it as well, and changed the motto to "I surrender to anti-Trabia"....

This guy seems to have written this in a panic, so it is fairly unclear about whats going on, but I'm pretty sure he's had his nation stolen...

His nation wasn't hacked, I checked the IPs.

Perhaps, it's time to discuss whether or not even guessing someone's password and getting into their nation is legal or not. Region password protections are obviously penetratable, because of invasions, but something should be done to ban nations stealing other nations illegally or legally.

Perhaps, it's time to discuss whether or not even guessing someone's password and getting into their nation is legal or not. Region password protections are obviously penetratable, because of invasions, but something should be done to ban nations stealing other nations illegally or legally.

Personally, I don't see any need for discussion. Of course it is illegal, both by NationStates law, and by Law.

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TO STRAIGHTEN OUT SOME THINGS:

1. He stole FIRST my region from my control, ejecting me and my delagate under my name, since i was the founder. SECOND, he changed my nation password. He also changed my world factbook and national motto saying that I had "surrendered".

2. "Ascender" has nothing to do with Final Fantasy. While it is mentioned in FF guides in Spanish, it means "go up" or "rise" in Spanish. Its just a normal word. Actually, i meant the "ISUZU Ascender", and he told me this in our chat. I have the chat logged if it is necessary to use. He found out my password somehow, and it WAS NOT GUESSING.

3. What do i download at this adaware site to rid me of anything he may have biugged me with?

Thanx for the help.

Personally, I don't see any need for discussion. Of course it is illegal, both by NationStates law, and by Law.

Well, it happens enough here, especially lately, that perhaps new consequences other than just a mere IP ban are in order.

FFH, I'm not the most computer-literate person in the universe, but I can't quite believe that he would have actually bugged you in the way which some people were saying. Regardless, downloading the Ad-Aware program and running it regularly is a good idea in general.

3. What do i download at this adaware site to rid me of anything he may have biugged me with?Ad-aware 6 Standard Edition
I also use Spybot-S&D (http://www.safer-networking.org/).
NOBODY COULD GUESS IT BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING PERSONAL.
His nation wasn't hacked, I checked the IPs.
Hmmm...

There was some confusion in the ranks, his nation was hacked.

Also, choosing a personal password is the worst thing you can do, because it helps people guess it. You want your passwords to be as completely unrelated to you as possible.

A good password should:

Consist of lower and UPPER case letters.
Consist of letters numbers and symbols.
Not be a word in any language]
Not be personally related to you.