NationStates Jolt Archive

Since the destruction of our regions founder for the name of his nation.I would like to know why posts are not simply deleted and the offending nation sent a telegram warning of the moderators feelings.This is a game and the names are either a reflection of the person who created the nation or a nation created out of humour.T.V. posts viewing warnings to people who are about to watch a program and here it is like a dictatorship that acts swiftly and unjustly.That is my opinion on this matter.I am not trying to raise any waves,just find a middle ground that others before and probably after have either sought or will seek answers to.In the sport of the game a nation takes a long time to build and mould.He had only wanted to post an invite for other nations to come and check us out.I guess I am just a little disturbed that a nation can be cancelled with not so much as a warning or explanation.Also I would like to know that once a nation has been ceased by a moderator,is there any way to revive it?If so is there a process that one can go through to apply for reinstatement>I just needed to clear my mind and if you would could you provide me with a few answers.
Thank you.

Also I would like to know that once a nation has been ceased by a moderator,is there any way to revive it?If so is there a process that one can go through to apply for reinstatement.

If the nation was deleted due to inactivity, then, you go through the Getting Help page to get it resurrected. However, if you're nation was deleted for rule violations, well, chances are it'll never be revived.

<--- not a moderator.

"Hairy Colon" was not deleted for recruitment spam. "Hairy Colon" was deleted for having an offensive national name. Since national names cannot easily be changed without running the risk of bringing the whole game to a crashing halt, the punishment for having an offensive name is deletion.

Exemptions have been granted by NationStates Administrator [violet], but ONLY for nations dating back to the early pre-Moderator era that have not otherwise broken the rules. A 1 billion population nation doesn't qualify.

For the same reason, "Hairy-Colon" has just been deleted.

I'm sorry, but a different name must be chosen.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

"Hairy Colon" was not deleted for recruitment spam. "Hairy Colon" was deleted for having an offensive national name. Since national names cannot easily be changed without running the risk of bringing the whole game to a crashing halt, the punishment for having an offensive name is deletion.

Exemptions have been granted by NationStates Administrator [violet], but ONLY for nations dating back to the early pre-Moderator era that have not otherwise broken the rules. A 1 billion population nation doesn't qualify.

For the same reason, "Hairy-Colon" has just been deleted.

I'm sorry, but a different name must be chosen.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

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I'm just curious.. where is the boundary between an offensive name and an inoffensive one?

Hairy Colon doesn't sound particularly offensive to me!

I wouldn't want a Hairy Colon, sounds like a nasty medical problem :lol:

I'm very curious too. What makes "hairy colon" offensive? Maybe i'm too old to understand... :lol:

I'm very curious too. What makes "hairy colon" offensive? Maybe i'm too old to understand... :lol:

And perhaps I am too young! :wink: :lol:

I agree. While Hairy-Colon is hardly something that sounds great, I would draw short of decreeing it offensive.

I agree. While Hairy-Colon is hardly something that sounds great, I would draw short of decreeing it offensive.

Yeah, there could be something much more offensive than Hairy Colon.

Apparenlty my name is offensive, I wanted Uranus for the pun/humor value but as it's taken I created "Yorectum"

I was then ejected from "The Pacific" by some unknown person. Now I know it's not the nicest name on the planet, but I'm a funny kinda guy with a bit of a warped sence of humor, so it suits me. Now if my name is deemed offensive, I don't see why other people with similar names should be allowed to exist. For instance, I saw there were users called "Fooksake" and "Lazy Stoned Bastards" - surely they are just as offensive as someones bumhole, the first being a parody on the "F word" & the second being a illegal drug reference.

Am I making sence?

The Pacific delegate (Francos Spain) can pretty much eject whoever he wants, and he's infamous for doing so.

So that's that? Even though there's no parity with the decisionmaking?

So that's that? Even though there's no parity with the decisionmaking?

Francos is not a moderator, he is the Delegate of a region.

And if Francos ever becomes a moderator we're all doomed.

So did he eject me or did a moderator? How do I tell?

See I was questioning a telegram a friend of mine recieved about some 40 endorsement limit or something in "The Pacific" main Msg board in the game, next morning I'm booted to "Rejected Realms" with no explanation. To me it looks like I got booted for asking a question, I TG'd Francos & he indicated it was probably cause of my name/flag/whatever & cause I knew of the 40 endorsements thing I should know better - I only knew of the 40 endorsements thing cause a friend got sent the TG about it. I'm confused. Is this normal?

Moderators generally do not eject nations from a region as part of their mod duties. They give warnings, eject nations out of the United Nations, or delete the nations outright for rule violations, but ejecting them from a region is very rare. You will know it was a mod action when that happens.

In this case though, it looks to me like you were booted by the delegate. A delegate may decide for him or herself what the policy is to boot people. While the policy of the delegate in question in my opinion doesn't qualify as 'normal' as compared to most other regions, it is normal for delegates to set the policy they so choose. Those who do not like the chosen policy may attempt to elect a new delegate (tough chance in a feeder region) or select greener pastures for their nation to flourish.

See for instance the Unofficial NationStates Regional Directory (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130266).

Ballotonia

Thanks for that guide Ballotonia, It helps me understand the game more but it still doesn't in my mind excuse or justify my banning from the Pacific.

It is nice to see that the post the Palteau posted(I am also in the region that lost Hairy Colon) has opened up a small debate.Like he posted we all thought the name was a riot and used to chide him about it all the time.I never once found it to be an offensive name,and wonder how some people get by their day to day lives without laughing.Our founder has been trying to come up with a name that will only make people laugh and not offend the delicate one's.We will all get to see what he has come up with by next week or sooner.Anyways I thank you all for your posts and maybe we can all get along with a little humour in our lives.

How old do you have to be to be exempt?

A nation-name, national animal, or currency is presumably offensive if someone

1. Reports it as offensive;
and/or
2. The report of it being offensive is upheld by a moderator.

That may or may not seem unfair to some, but it is standard policy on any 'mainstream' forum. 'Mainstream' can here be defined to be any forum that boasts 20+ users at any one time, or a forum that is hosted on a major website with a high level of hits/day.

The reason why it has to be that way is simple: if someone says something is offensive to them, and it is not a ridiculous claim (such as this silly example, "He said hippo! Hippos are dirty, that's offensive!"), then it is always wise to uphold the claim. If the original intent is to do something funny, then it clearly hasn't been funny - or else there wouldn't be reports of 'offense'. Also, on a forum as widely used as this one, the mods most surely have a tough enough time keeping up with their existing workload - without having to worry about the whys and hows of the individual whom has been slated for being offensive.


Emperor Matthius: Pre-December 2002 or pre- early-January 2003, unless my memory is failing me, would be the PreModeration Period.

Thanks for that guide Ballotonia, It helps me understand the game more but it still doesn't in my mind excuse or justify my banning from the Pacific.Francos is an evil, evil man. Almost nothing he does is excusable, but it is within the rules. Like the thousands (literally) of others ejected by him, you're SOL. He has more endorsements than anyone in the game, probably due to the huge levels of publicity from the anti-Francos campaigns, and will most likely never be deposed until he finally crosses the line and gets deleted.

Emperor Matthius: Pre-December 2002 or pre- early-January 2003, unless my memory is failing me, would be the PreModeration Period.

Assuming we aren't talking about the first time [mantle] was a mod...


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