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My old account was skulls322 and the founder of the region of skullsland and while I was posting a message my account was deleted...WHY? I want it back of course, is this possible?

You were deleted for incessantly flaming/flamebaiting in the forums. Keep up the pace you appear to be with your new nation, and odds are it'll go the same way.

And no, Skulls322 will not be revived, as it was deleted for rules violations.

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Flamebaiting? I was debating! Until this thread I had yet to post a thread other than to join in the debate. If the debate topic is homosexuals, well your going to get all kinds of view points. I disagreed with it, but was not hostile. What about the guy who was threatening to cut someones throat, was that flamebaiting? I totally disagree with you!

Flamebaiting? I was debating! Until this thread I had yet to post a thread other than to join in the debate. If the debate topic is homosexuals, well your going to get all kinds of view points. I disagreed with it, but was not hostile. What about the guy who was threatening to cut someones throat, was that flamebaiting? I totally disagree with you!

Even so, your current posts suggest FLAMING and not only baiting, I'm sure

LE
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Ohhhh the topic must have been women and equality! Well again, that is sooo subjective and you could never get a majority in agreement. BUT, as I was not popular on my view I was flamebaiting I guess???

Well, can you transplant your mind into my own so I can be a lemming and think as you do, and speak as you do. That is a great concept, then we wouldn't need the UN or this game as there would be no difference of opinion.

Ohhhh the topic must have been women and equality! Well again, that is sooo subjective and you could never get a majority in agreement. BUT, as I was not popular on my view I was flamebaiting I guess???


Flamebaiting = with degratory remarks, inviting others to flame you

My main point is simple, you go around deleting an account without so much as a courtesy email or message asking the person to chill! Had I been aware I would have toned it down, but I never got the courtesy. I'm not happy now, as your asking me to extend you a courtesy you denied me!

Ok, well I can understand that. I could have also avoided that. But to simply delete the account for not liking a post in a volotile topic is not right nor justified without a warning.

My main point is simple, you go around deleting an account without so much as a courtesy email or message asking the person to chill! Had I been aware I would have toned it down, but I never got the courtesy. I'm not happy now, as your asking me to extend you a courtesy you denied me!


The mods can delete nations for no damn reason at all, and need not post warnings, although some do.

Well, they sure as hell are not representative of the basis of the game then! That is thier loss

Why not delete the accounts of people who post stupid topics like "Is it ok to be Gay", "Are women equal" etc...If you disagree with them your deleted?????? So everyone must agree with the topics to stay here, that is about what it amounts to, isn't it?

Well, they sure as hell are not representative of the basis of the game then! That is thier loss


They can, but they dont.

Why not delete the accounts of people who post stupid topics like "Is it ok to be Gay", "Are women equal" etc...If you disagree with them your deleted?????? So everyone must agree with the topics to stay here, that is about what it amounts to, isn't it?


No, there is potential for good discussion.

Potential? I thought all of my points were valid...I didn't use one swear word, I have never expressed anything violent. I simply posted what I feel were valid points of debate. For that I lose my rights, while others spewing violence, cussing and the like simply troll along?

The fact of the matter is simple. The mod that deleted me disagrees with my position and rather than debate or simply let me have my opinion he has to delete my account! Very mature, very fair of you...hardly!

The fact of the matter is simple. The mod that deleted me disagrees with my position and rather than debate or simply let me have my opinion he has to delete my account! Very mature, very fair of you...hardly!

Just to point out that last sentence could technically be accessed as flamebait.
Also, that is not neccessarily true. The mods see someone breaking the Terms of Service, the nation is gone.

I care about my account. You care about gays. I care more about my deleted account than you care about gays. My account was my liberty and right to create, manage and own. Your gayness is obscene to others, but your entitled to it.

I WANT MY FRIGGIN NATION BACK!!!

Talk about crap for a game! Deleting accounts instantly with no warning or debate or explanation is crap! I spent a great deal of time on that damn thing jerk-ass!

Piece of crap game, liberal owned and operated!

I'm an atheist, and I could care less about the religious perspective. Having said that, homosexuality is just sick!

I don't mean sick in the way that anyone who can murder or rape someone is sick, that is sickness at a whole other level. I mean sick as in, you check out your cousin and wonder if she would go for you sick (oh love is tender, least I forget). Sick as in you check out your mom, and have sexual feelings (oh, I forgot about the tender love). Sick as in your 35 and you like to look at 8 year olds (don't forget about the tender love, love knows no age). You get my poin? Homosexuality is deviant, just as pedophilia and incest! Common sense points this out, but of course pedophiles think they are the exception, and incestious partakers as well, oh yeah, and homosexuals.

Your all sick! If I ran the show, you would simply be assimilated!

(all emphasis mine)

Okay, this is just a quick search through your posts, and your posts as your former nation. Take a breath, relax, and chill out.

This forum has rules, rules that you are obliged to follow. You didn't follow those rules, and were deleted by the people charged with enforcing those rules, namely, the Mods.

Perhaps if you had phrased your objection like a rational human with a grasp of the English language (spelling and grammar), you would have found a (slightly) more receptive audiance. Instead, you chose to spam threads with your ranting (another violation of NS rules, I might note). As it is, you should be thankful that this latest incarnation hasn't been deleted as well.

Furthermore, you will find (provided you take the time) that the Moderators come from a wide range of socio-political beliefs; NationStates is hardly "liberally owned and operated", whatever that's supposed to mean.

You might also learn that these forums are rather laid back and permissive, far more so than many other boards on the web, many of which would have already IP banned you for your actions.

That being said, knock it off. Learn from your mistakes and move on.

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Be careful of what you post on the boards, as if you disagree with this dick you will be deleted!

The above is flamebait, there is a friggin difference!

those were all after my account was deleted

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The above is flamebait, there is a friggin difference!


I have to admit that is close to flamebait.

Why wasn't the guy claiming to have a knife and he would love to cut a homsexual on the street deleted. How does his statement par above mine? I didn't incite violence, make threats or anything of the like. I simply posted an opinion.

Why wasn't the guy claiming to have a knife and he would love to cut a homsexual on the street deleted. How does his statement par above mine? I didn't incite violence, make threats or anything of the like. I simply posted an opinion.


The mods would be happy to delete him if you'd link them.

I just can't see how I can be deleted when I see MUCH worse on a routine basis. I have seen sexualy explicite material posted. I have seen violence, and I have MANY curses and swearing. How can all of that be OK, yet an opinion, however expressed without use of such devices be viewed as wrong and deleted? It is just baffling to me

Link them, he was typing between my posts. I posted again just to point out that I in no way was associated with him or his views.

I just can't see how I can be deleted when I see MUCH worse on a routine basis. I have seen sexualy explicite material posted. I have seen violence, and I have MANY curses and swearing. How can all of that be OK, yet an opinion, however expressed without use of such devices be viewed as wrong and deleted? It is just baffling to me

Sexually explicit mterial posted is met with forum IP bans.
Violence is okay if tagged with an NC-17 or R warning.

I mean this in the politest possible way, when I say:

Your nation was deleted by the mods for breaking the rules. I wasn't there, but if I was a mod I'd probably have done the same. Now, this is where you either leave the game, or move on with your life.

Thank you, your complaint has been recorded.

Link them, he was typing between my posts. I posted again just to point out that I in no way was associated with him or his views.

I mean provide a link.

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That wasnt needed now was it.

That is technically flamebait.

So the bottom line is, even if I promise to avoid using these forums, I still can't get my original nation with its position as founder of the region back then?

those were all after my account was deleted


Not the last quote. The last quote was one of your final posts as Skullz. The other quotes show that you seem to be incapable of rational thought in regards to a free online game.

Furthermore, you "opinion" was clearly flaming. Calling all homosexuals "sick" and saying that they are the equivilent to pedophiles or people who engage in incest moves beyond the realm of "opinion". Screaming and frothing at the mouth is not an acceptable way of posting an opinion on these boards.

It's really that simple.

Are you willing to accept this, or do you plan to continue until you loose another account?

So the bottom line is, even if I promise to avoid using these forums, I still can't get my original nation with its position as founder of the region back then?


Frankly speaking, no chance at all.

Au contraire, LE. I believe it was very neccessary. There's no need for this debate. All that's happening is he's wasting your time. Borg, your nation will not be returned to you.

The sooner you accept that, the happier you will be.

Yes, Borg, you will have to accept it, Skullz will not be revived and returned to you. Unfortunately, it is the rules of the game. Read the Terms of Service closer, or the FAQ.

Roania: fair enough. Just maybe shoulda kept the size down.

Look, do I tell you how to do your job? No, I don't. Now leave me to fume at wrong-doers in my own Fascistic way.

This is rediculous. Many people on this planet do view homsexuality as sick! How can you possibly just omit that point of view? That does not mean I condone violence or anything else upon them. Alcoholics are sick, Drug takers are sick, and in my book so are homosexuals. I CLEARLY stated that they were not the same type of sick as rapists or murders, meaning they agree with an act or function that ONLY affects themselves. What statement was wrong?

Not everyone agrees with me of course, and I don't care if they do, it is simply a perspective, and opinion. What gays are immune from criticism or something? Have we gone that far left? Free game or not it is just MY opinion.

So the bottom line is, even if I promise to avoid using these forums, I still can't get my original nation with its position as founder of the region back then?


Frankly speaking, no chance at all.

LE, stop speaking for the mods. This discussion really does not invovle you nor the others throwing in their opinions. Excess posting simply confuses the issue more, and we would really appreciate it if you all just stopped.

So the bottom line is, even if I promise to avoid using these forums, I still can't get my original nation with its position as founder of the region back then?


Frankly speaking, no chance at all.

LE, stop speaking for the mods. This discussion really does not invovle you nor the others throwing in their opinions. Excess posting simply confuses the issue more, and we would really appreciate it if you all just stopped.

Noted, Karma.

I accept and can understand the rules. But I am barred from replying my opinion to a flamebait of a topic if ever there was one. The initiator of the topic asked for replies on the topic. I posted my view without use of violence, cursing or anything else. I simply said it was sick. How else do you have a debate? Should we all be lemmings and accept the latest social norm?

This is rediculous. Many people on this planet do view homsexuality as sick! How can you possibly just omit that point of view?

A person claiming that "all breeders are sick" would be handled in much the same manner. Quit playing martyr, nobody's buying it.

I CLEARLY stated that they were not the same type of sick as rapists or murders, meaning they agree with an act or function that ONLY affects themselves. What statement was wrong?

And then you lumped them into the same category as pedophilia and incest. The two latter are illegal, I might note.

What gays are immune from criticism or something? Have we gone that far left? Free game or not it is just MY opinion.

Your anger is blinding you to the reality that is painfully obvious, if you would just take the time to look. Many people can post opinions that are anti-homosexuality. It's the manner in which you posted it that was beyond the pale. Your continued raving, spamming, and baiting just shows me that you have no real interest in understanding the issue. You just want to complain.

If that is the case, I think the person or persons that start these types of topics need to be deleted as they engage debate that is not meant for FREE gaming.

If that is the case, I think the person or persons that start these types of topics need to be deleted as they engage debate that is not meant for FREE gaming.

Sigh.

Once more for those in the cheap seats...

The topics are allowed. Debate is allowed. The manner in which you presented your opinion is not allowed. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

I don't want to just complain. I want to not take it in the arse myself, which is exactly what is happening now. Homosexuality IS ILLEGAL!!!

This is not a matter of what was said in my view, it is a matter of doling out the punishment. I am being punished for my view on the subject, not for anything I said!

Homosexuality IS ILLEGAL!!!

Uh... check your facts there...

This is not a matter of what was said in my view, it is a matter of doling out the punishment. I am being punished for my view on the subject, not for anything I said!

Wrong, as I've stated several times already.

If I were deleted for how I said it. Why didn't the cowboy who made it clear he just can't wait to take a knife to a gay guy deleted? Tell me how what he said was anything remotely more sane that what I said?

If I were deleted for how I said it. Why didn't the cowboy who made it clear he just can't wait to take a knife to a gay guy deleted? Tell me how what he said was anything remotely more sane that what I said?

You have yet to supply a link to that.

Talk about cheap seats. You can take your game and shove it up your ass. No wonder people beat the crap out of gays.

Delete this one and put an IP ban on dickface!

FUCK YOU!

Talk about cheap seats. You can take your game and shove it up your ass. No wonder people beat the crap out of gays.

Delete this one and put an IP ban on dickface!

f--- YOU!

You just don't learn, do you?

Enjoy your IP Ban.

Talk about cheap seats. You can take your game and shove it up your ass. No wonder people beat the crap out of gays.

Delete this one and put an IP ban on dickface!

f--- YOU!

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Well, they sure as hell are not representative of the basis of the game then! That is thier loss

Look at it this way.. the mods simply ended his "suffrage" ;)