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I invaded China by legal means. Took it over. I banned 2 people. According to the game's FAQ written by Max Berry, NOT THE MODS. Look at the FAQ.

Can I invade other people's regions?
Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the UN Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.


Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?
No. Region crashing by itself is a legitimate tactic to seize power, but ejecting large numbers of nations is griefing. It can be a fine line between region crashing and griefing. Players who enjoy launching invasions should take care to stay on the right side.

Since when was 2 a large number? It ain't in my book. Ii took over China legally but the good two shoe defender mods said it was illegal. These mods are crap.

I don't want China back but point is that you mods are corrupt and are not following the rules of the damn game.

You fool, you can eject them, but not ban them. If you eject them, you have to let them back in.

And I did. In the FAQ it says I cant eject large numbers, I took out 2 one of which was a clone nation of mine.

And I did. In the FAQ it says I cant eject large numbers, I took out 2 one of which was a clone nation of mine.
You said you banned them in your post. Ejecting them and banning them is different.

No its not. In the regional control it says "Eject nation". Then there is a ban list for those who got ejected. Show me where I can ban them, genious.

I admit I wasn't clear. What I meant by banning them was continually keeping them on the ban list after ejection. Now you said that you let them back in, but was it password protected?

It was pass proteced but I was begining to distribute the pass when the mods stepped in and did'nt give me a chance to finish.

It was pass proteced but I was begining to distribute the pass when the mods stepped in and did'nt give me a chance to finish.
Well, then somone just acted very quickly to rat out on you, and if you didn't give it to everyone by the time the mods came... Tough luck.

You can't expect total fairness, it's not like you paid for it or anything.

I agree, sometimes you do everything legally, but you miss a little part, or don't do something quick enough. The mods are as they say, more partial to the people who "squeal". So, just deal with it and remember, you did crash China. So, good for you.

JediMaster - in response to your first statement, what do you know? The mods arent corrupt and have been playing the game far longer than you have. And because they're impartial they're mods.

Now, all of you, http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/page=region_control/region=china shows that NO ONE is banned. Which should in turn prove that everyone was unbanned, or no one was banned, and that the invasion MAY, OR MAY NOT, be considered legal.

Was it wise to post that link... it is an active page.

Was it wise to post that link... it is an active page.

Go ahead. Try to change something. Won't work.

45 Minutes != Immediately.

You will further note that I showed you a great deal of leniancy.

Did I move one of my puppets in and make it Founder? No.

Did I ban you from the region? No.

Did I eject you from the UN? No.

Did I delete you and everyone who endorced you? No.

All of the above are common Moderator actions in responce to illegal invasions. Clearing the password and your Delegate access is an exceptionally light punishment. Also, please note the reasons I gave for the invasion being illegal: 1) The natives weren't unbanned (the ejection was fine), and 2) the password was not distributed.

LE: At the time I saw the topic in these Forums there were 4 people on the ban list, 2 of them had been ejected in the invasion.

Anti-Commi Clan: Give me a break. "Immediately" is a pretty easy concept to grasp.

45 Minutes != Immediately.

You will further note that I showed you a great deal of leniancy.

Did I move one of my puppets in and make it Founder? No.

Did I ban you from the region? No.

Did I eject you from the UN? No.

Did I delete you and everyone who endorced you? No.

All of the above are common Moderator actions in responce to illegal invasions. Clearing the password and your Delegate access is an exceptionally light punishment. Also, please note the reasons I gave for the invasion being illegal: 1) The natives weren't unbanned (the ejection was fine), and 2) the password was not distributed.

LE: At the time I saw the topic in these Forums there were 4 people on the ban list, 2 of them had been ejected in the invasion.

Anti-Commi Clan: Give me a break. "Immediately" is a pretty easy concept to grasp.

Noted, Hack - but dont you usually immediately DEAT such offenders? You've gone surprisingly lenient here.

here's another one, in Alpha Centauri:

2 hours ago: The Aptly Named Farce of Ostella updated the World Factbook entry.
12 hours ago: The Kingdom of Killer Kong departed this region for The Lost Kingdom of Terra
13 hours ago: The Dominion of Seanian II arrived from The Rejected Realms.
13 hours ago: The Aptly Named Farce of Ostella removed The Dominion of Seanian II from the regional ban list.
13 hours ago: The Dominion of Seanian II departed this region for The Rejected Realms
13 hours ago: The Aptly Named Farce of Ostella ejected The Dominion of Seanian II from the region.
16 hours ago: The Maui Supa Vibe of The Playmakers arrived from Kramerica.
16 hours ago: The Aptly Named Farce of Ostella updated the World Factbook entry.
16 hours ago: The Imperial Republic of Erid departed this region for The Rejected Realms
16 hours ago: The Aptly Named Farce of Ostella ejected The Imperial Republic of Erid from the region.


invaders kicked the native delegate, who is, after 16 hours, still on the banlist.

Perhaps the FAQ should be updated to inform Newb Invaders about banning laws.

Or maybe veteran invaders like JediMaster should know the rules before crashing a region.....

I can see the ejection thing but I do not enjoy or liek the password rule.

When invaders give the natives the pass, the natives will give the password to the defenders they move in and boot the invaders. Its like suicide.

I can see the ejection thing but I do not enjoy or liek the password rule.

When invaders give the natives the pass, the natives will give the password to the defenders they move in and boot the invaders. Its like suicide.
Can't swim? Get outta the pool.

Next time I wont ban but I wont give the password to the natives so the FF/ADN can easily come in.

Find it our for yourselves.

Next time I wont ban but I wont give the password to the natives so the FF/ADN can easily come in.

Find it our for yourselves.
Smart move Jedi, you just told everyone that you are going to cheat on your next invasion. That's the way to be. Maybe you should brush up on them rules before you start invading again.

I'd suggest reading this thread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38763

-or-

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109397

Having to follow all of the invader rules suck, to be honest. Still, you got to follow them. Otherwise don't invade.

It shouldn't be too much longer for invasions to be either all illegal (and dealt with by mods) or so infrequent that most of the defender groups will break up to persue other interests.

Back to the topic at hand, follow the rules or play the game differently.