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I saw a moderator post that you can boot a native as long as you immediatly remove them from the ban list. So lets say a region has.. 15 natives, the invader could boot all 15 as long as they are removed from the banned list, right?

You also have to give them all the password if you change it and allow the natives to get back in.

Mkay, I don't care for passwords.

But I can eject everyone as long as i remove them from the banned list, correct?

Yes, so long as you unban them immediately after ejecting them.

Yes, so long as you unban them immediately after ejecting them.

Alright thanks.



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Seems rather dodgy to me....I've always sworn by the 30%/40% rule.

Personally, I wouldn't do it unless the mods specifically ruled it legal - especially if it caused the region to be emptied and then recreated by an invader.

Seems rather dodgy to me....I've always sworn by the 30%/40% rule.

Personally, I wouldn't do it unless the mods specifically ruled it legal - especially if it caused the region to be emptied and then recreated by an invader.

Agreed. I am by no means an authority.

Um...that would constitute griefing (mass-ejection)

Seems rather dodgy to me....I've always sworn by the 30%/40% rule.

Personally, I wouldn't do it unless the mods specifically ruled it legal - especially if it caused the region to be emptied and then recreated by an invader.

To the best of my knowledge as just a player:

The unofficial 40% rule of thumb is for bannings by a resident delegates, not for invaders. Invaders are limited to 'a few tactical ejections', where I personally interpret 'a few' to be substantially less than 40%.

Ballotonia

40% is indeed the percentage of a region banned that constitutes griefing. If the region has only 15 people then you can ban less than 6 people.

40% is indeed the percentage of a region banned that constitutes griefing. If the region has only 15 people then you can ban less than 6 people.

now where was that little post of grumpy old neut saying there's not set number...

yep, found it (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2789468&highlight=#2789468)

Tactical is pretty shady aswell.

A typical 15 nation region will have a delegate with a maximum of 6 endorsements. (this is typical remember)

Ejecting 3-4 is really all you have justification for.

My apologies for stepping on Neut's toes, here, but I feel that this point is important enough to deserve clarification and reiteration:

Mkay, I don't care for passwords.

But I can eject everyone as long as i remove them from the banned list, correct?

Yes, so long as you unban them immediately after ejecting them.

This is not correct!

I dont care what other circumstances you have, if you eject that many natives, then you die.

40% is indeed the percentage of a region banned that constitutes griefing. If the region has only 15 people then you can ban less than 6 people.

now where was that little post of grumpy old neut saying there's not set number...

yep, found it (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2789468&highlight=#2789468)

Correct. There is no set number. I will discuss possible changes to the Big Invasion/Delegate FAQ sticky topic with the other Moderators.

Go with what Ballotonia and Siswai Aman have said: You are limited to a few tactical ejections. Chose very carefully who you're going to eject.

Spelling error corrected.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

There is no set number. I will discuss possible changes to the Big Invasion/Delegate FAQ sticky topic with the mother Moderators.
Mother moderators, well yes, I can see Steph here but . . . . . . :lol:

Chose very carefully who you're going to eject.

In this situation TROUSRS, go for the previous delegate and half his endorsers. 1 delegate + 1/2 of six endorsers = 4 ejectees.

You should besafe in that case, multiply out the numbers for a larger region etcetc.

Alright, assumed that was griefing but I saw another moderator post that you could eject everyone as long as they were removed from the banned list. I was just making sure..

It might have been GMC, but I'm not sure. It was just yesterday I saw it.

There is no set number. I will discuss possible changes to the Big Invasion/Delegate FAQ sticky topic with the mother Moderators.
Mother moderators, well yes, I can see Steph here but . . . . . . :lol:

Right. Spelling error corrected. :P

Chose very carefully who you're going to eject.

In this situation TROUSRS, go for the previous delegate and half his endorsers. 1 delegate + 1/2 of six endorsers = 4 ejectees.

You should besafe in that case, multiply out the numbers for a larger region etcetc.

For a region of 15 natives, I would suggest limiting it to 2 ejections (or three, if you really had to). I might not delete for ejecting 4 out of 15, but 4 out of 15 is starting to get risky.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator