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I am ejecting you soon. You have no Buisness in hell and you abused your powers to get in.

I want you out, now!

The hell with it, I ejected him...again.

2 minutes ago: The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button departed this region for The Rejected Realms
2 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries ejected The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button from the region.
18 minutes ago: The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button arrived from The Rejected Realms.
22 minutes ago: The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button departed this region for The Rejected Realms
22 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries ejected The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button from the region.
24 minutes ago: The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button arrived from The East Pacific.

The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button

Greetings to one and all! I am just a humble mod puppet popping by to watch the fun antics in here. As you can see, I have no UN membership, nor any intentions of joining said body, and am no threat whatsoever to the present delegacy. This humble one politely requests permission to hang out here and watch the fun.

-The Smite Button-

14 minutes ago The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button

In blunter terms, I intend to make sure this fun little invasion thing stays legal. Please refrain from booting me again.

-The Smite Button-

6 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries

Permission denied.

3 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries

I am demanding you leave at once. One, you have no buisness here, two, you abused your Mod powers. I shall report you to Violet.

3 minutes ago The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button

My, my... with such an attitude, one would think the mighty delegate of Hell is afraid! For all that mighty talk of sucking the life from a region, this is all that amounts to? Frightened of a helpless little moderator puppet with no pull in the UN, or anywhere else?

And here I was hoping for some fun entertainment!

3 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries

Well then, Have fun in the rejected Realms.

3 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries

You're no native, nor asked my permission to get into the region. Then you dare to use your moderator powers to get in.

2 minutes ago The Rogue Nation of Asmodean

My heart goes with the mod. I think he is gallant who face the terrors of Hell and come here even though you don't want him here. Personally, I would like to see him stay, both for your sake and ours. A mod in the neighbourhood always steadies the temper of all present in the.. umm.. Funny antics.
Be a dear Sythia, let him stay. I am sure he doesn't appreciate this place more than you do. Frankly I think he will let his nation die afterwards because of the stains this place will give it.

All I want to know is:

Is there a full moon out or something?

Aww, y'all could have posted my press release as well :evil:

the poor guy thinks it's neut..

*grabs popcorn*

anyone want frontrow seats in the RR?

Ah ha! Now the answer becomes clear! (on edit: make that the reason why)

So tell me glorious Hack, I can maybe get a final answer. Why was Sythia deleted?

I promise you, if I ever get Sythia back, I will never region crash again.

(Sorry BaalZoria, trying to keep up with the situation as it is. It was a good PR, I read it. ;))

1 minute ago: The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button arrived from The Rejected Realms.

The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries

He isn't even on the ban list. Honestly...

4 minutes ago The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria

Awwww .. post bumps my press release off .. that took me ages to write. How evil :( I'll post it again in a wee while.

Smite button, you're welcome as far as I'm concerned. So long as you can take a joke .. some around here are a bit touchy, not looking at anyone in particular.

4 minutes ago The Rogue Nation of Asmodean

Yes, yes. But you ejected him.
Even though you don't like the mod, whoever it is, he will be of value of both sides. Especially yours.
Not only crashers has a tendency to brake rules. You need every good neutral (oh well, not the mods then) viewer to survive this I think.

2 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries

My experience with mods, especially the castrated one, have never been good.

Seconds ago The Feared Moderator Weapon of DEATion, the Slayer of Nations, it's the Machine of The Smite Button

I kindly repeat, dear delegate of Hell. I am here for moderator observation purposes. Please do not boot me again. I will only come back, again and again, with a smile of merriment at this highly amusing situation.

[violet] has permitted such 'abuse' so that a moderator puppet may observe a situation, so I sincerely doubt there will be a mighty admin smite upon the moderators for this slight transgression.

On the other hand, since you so nicely demanded I come back, I did. This is so very interesting.

-The Smite Button-

I'm pretty sure The Smite Button isn't Neut.

Excuse my intrusion, but why must you absolutely know? If I'm not mistaken, The Smite Button is a mod puppet that can be accessed by all mods... so, theoretically, every mod is in your region.

And don't be so fraggin' hostile. TSB isn't a UN nation, so he won't support the invaders, and he won't support you (And I'm pretty suspicious that the latter is what's setting you off). It's completely neutral, and will even come in handy should the invaders decide to grief.

Chill.

what I miss? :P

The normal party we have at sundays in Hell :twisted:

I suggest you go have a nice chat with Pope Hope.. rumors from the hellspawns says that Pope took photos on the party. No kidding. And videotakes to.

I did, I did (and Shiff and I are having a chat now hehe)!

Full transcripts of tonight's events have been recorded (somewhat haphazardly) on the ADN forum.

The real question here is...which Mod isn't in Hell at the moment?

lol :lol:

I did, I did (and Shiff and I are having a chat now hehe)!

Full transcripts of tonight's events have been recorded (somewhat haphazardly) on the ADN forum.

The real question here is...which Mod isn't in Hell at the moment?

lol :lol:


I think they all are :lol:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127601

For those of you who don't want to register at ADN. V. Funny.

Why would a Mod Puppet need to be in the region to 'observe' ??? Sounds like an entirely IC requirement to me, not actually a functional requirement.

Ballotonia

Why would a Mod Puppet need to be in the region to 'observe' ??? Sounds like an entirely IC requirement to me, not actually a functional requirement.

Ballotonia

Actually, at times it can be VERY useful to have a mod puppet in a region. Can't say how specifically... gotta keep mod trade secrets, after all ^_~ But yeah, having a mod puppet in-region provides a better feel for a situation. And at other times, the appearance of a mod puppet can keep, for instance, an invasion about to turn griefing back to the rule-abiding path ^_~

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127601

For those of you who don't want to register at ADN. V. Funny.


:oops: :oops:


Seemed funny at the time :wink:

Cousin Smite got a new job?!? Great! I'm so happy for him! :D

Hell

World Factbook Entry: Nations of hell, you have now been conquered by The Sadistic Empire, The Greater Krackin Empire, NWO, and Dark Angels. As of now, Martial Law will be enforced on the region. No more endorsement swapping, if you have more endorsements than I,(I check) you will find a new home in the Rejected Realms. The Infamous Sythia is back.

UN Delegate: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries.

Founder: The Moddom of Neutered Sputniks

:lol: :lol:

Yeah...I did that after Sythia's reincarnation kept ejecting/banning the Mod nations that were there as observers. I even warned him not to, if you'll read through the transcript.

So let me get this straight, you'll eject those I aloow to stay, but when the ADN carebeard come in, you do nothing?

The corruption...

Eject those? Are you referring to Ackbar?

Ackbar is generally nothing more than an observer. As there are Mods there, he does not need to be there, and I fear will only add to the confusion/problems later (not on purpose, but it will happen).

Generally speaking, the fewer nations involved, the less chance for mass confusion, etc. As I find puppets of other observers (besides Mods), I will eject them as well.

Generally speaking, the fewer nations involved, the less chance for mass confusion, etc. As I find puppets of other observers (besides Mods), I will eject them as well.

FYI, Sythia already ejected my puppet.

I love how nations think they can order [violet] and the mods around. It makes me smile. :)

So I guess that we players are restricted from entering this region now.

Went in with a non-Un nation, just too see what was going on, and was kicked and banned by the mod in question.

As long as no players outside of those involved are allowed in any contested region, I am okay with this, since I can simply watch the happenings from afar. Just thougt it was a really odd thing.

The Del has asked me to come back in, but I know in a fight between del and mod, I lose-- so not going in just yet.

That said, I have seen invaders rights get stepped on a lot, and generally iti is an accident-- ruling over invaders out of habit, which I do believe is an accident of judgement. I went into simply to watch and offer advice to invaders if needed, but I guess such assitance to players is limited to outside of the region itself.

Just thought it was very odd. And I do assume that all players will be held out of such regions from now on? Becuase I have seen plenty of regions where defenders or non-un puppets have flooded to watch the happenings. But, again, if all non-native non-invader nations are kept out pending mod ruling in order to keep things clean, then I can understand and appreciate that.

Being as this is a special case, it's probably a one time thing.

Generally, we dont mind observers in invaded regions, however, there are currently 3-4 mods residing in Hell and thus, extra observers cause problems.

Being as this is a special case, it's probably a one time thing.

Generally, we dont mind observers in invaded regions, however, there are currently 3-4 mods residing in Hell and thus, extra observers cause problems.



What will happen after this is over or calms down?

I mean who will be founder?

Generally speaking, the fewer nations involved, the less chance for mass confusion, etc. As I find puppets of other observers (besides Mods), I will eject them as well.

How do you know who's there with the intent to observe, and who is there with the intent to act?

Ballotonia

I have my ways ;)

Saw a post in there about the ADN. I assume until things are settled, no defenders will be allowed in there either?

Thanks for the info, I know you don't need to justify- or rather explain- your decisions, tho it is always aprreciated.

Nothing against anyone, just trying to keep the number of nations down to minimal, makes it easier to figure out what's going on.

Any defender/invader group will not be kept out of the region.

I know it is nothing personal, and I don't mind staying out of the region if it makes things easier. But, to be sure, does that mean everyone but me is to stay out of the region? Out to read, but how it reads to me thus far...

Everyone not involved in defending/invading the region is to remain out.

Being as this is a special case, it's probably a one time thing.

Generally, we dont mind observers in invaded regions, however, there are currently 3-4 mods residing in Hell and thus, extra observers cause problems.



What will happen after this is over or calms down?

I mean who will be founder?

Everyone not involved in defending/invading the region is to remain out.


I was ejected while I was away for a few days and have no idea what's going on. I never play around in this part of the game (the whole invasion part I mean), so I do not know if I should return or just find a new region to reside in. I'm actually rather annoyed by the whole bit, it's a pain in the butt. Anyone help me out?

I was ejected while I was away for a few days and have no idea what's going on. I never play around in this part of the game (the whole invasion part I mean), so I do not know if I should return or just find a new region to reside in. I'm actually rather annoyed by the whole bit, it's a pain in the butt. Anyone help me out?

Are you a native?

all im interested in is knowing if SATAN will be the founder after this all settles down? :twisted:

all im interested in is knowing if SATAN will be the founder after this all settles down? :twisted:
Last I checked, Satan was an ex-nation.

I was ejected while I was away for a few days and have no idea what's going on. I never play around in this part of the game (the whole invasion part I mean), so I do not know if I should return or just find a new region to reside in. I'm actually rather annoyed by the whole bit, it's a pain in the butt. Anyone help me out?

Are you a native?

Nope.

I was ejected while I was away for a few days and have no idea what's going on. I never play around in this part of the game (the whole invasion part I mean), so I do not know if I should return or just find a new region to reside in. I'm actually rather annoyed by the whole bit, it's a pain in the butt. Anyone help me out?

Are you a native?

Nope.

Nuva is in fact a native. 8)

all im interested in is knowing if SATAN will be the founder after this all settles down? :twisted:
Last I checked, Satan was an ex-nation.
But it's cool having Satan as the founder of Hell. :twisted:

Everyone not involved in defending/invading the region is to remain out.

I must say, declaring that if one is neutral they can not observe what goes on up close is incredibly odd. Wish I could simply sit and watch.

But, if given the ultimatim to either choose a side of defender or legal invader you know what I choose. Likewise, if given the choice to simply walk away and let what seem legal invaders to themselves, or lend support to the invaders, again you likely know what I choose.

Prefer to watch, but since you've asked, I guess I will support the invaders. Can't say I won't pull support (and leave the region if I do obviously), but prefer to help rather then ignore.

Being as this is a special case, it's probably a one time thing.

Generally, we dont mind observers in invaded regions, however, there are currently 3-4 mods residing in Hell and thus, extra observers cause problems.What about visits.

Yesterday I made a brief excusion to Hell, followed by about a half hour visit in which I chatted with the natives.

You, Scolo, and Rep were all not posting (dunno who the fourth mod puppet is but I doubt that s/he's Sythia{sincerely doubt that Sythia was a mod nation :p}, BaalZora, Asmodean, or [something] SeaKing) and since I wasn't mod-booted I assumed that it was fine and continued with the conversation.

As you can see, I'm back in ZF again, it was a brief visit.

Being as this is a special case, it's probably a one time thing.

Generally, we dont mind observers in invaded regions, however, there are currently 3-4 mods residing in Hell and thus, extra observers cause problems.What about visits.

Yesterday I made a brief excusion to Hell, followed by about a half hour visit in which I chatted with the natives.

You, Scolo, and Rep were all not posting (dunno who the fourth mod puppet is but I doubt that s/he's Sythia{sincerely doubt that Sythia was a mod nation :p}, BaalZora, Asmodean, or [something] SeaKing) and since I wasn't mod-booted I assumed that it was fine and continued with the conversation.

As you can see, I'm back in ZF again, it was a brief visit.

I know nothing, but looking at Neut's conversation with me I would assume if you don't choose Def or Inv then you aren't allowed to enter the region.

That's the only reason I am backing the current Invader Del, just for the right to be in the region....

I know nothing, but looking at Neut's conversation with me I would assume if you don't choose Def or Inv then you aren't allowed to enter the region.

That's the only reason I am backing the current Invader Del, just for the right to be in the region....
Meh too bad.

*Qaaolchoura shrugs

I still fail to see how observers mess up the mod observers.

I agree with you, I can't see how observers obscure anything. It is only when making people choose a side that things could really be obscured it seems to me, but I know nothing.

Well, I chose a side. I then went through and read the full thread about Hell. That dude griefed out the wazoo.

Now, I don't compleyely blame him for bits of the griefing. The rules for invasions aren't just stakced, they are ridiculously complicated for an invader to hold onto a region for ANY length of time. That said, them be the rules.

The main thing to me is after being pointed out, I'm not totally sure he is now playing the rules. I can see past his seemingly contempt for natives, but just not sure he is going to be cut and dry on the rules. For that reason, I am going to drop my endorsment of him and leave the region (Don't want to have to leave the region, but whatever-- if it makes things clearer then that's a good thing). I'll keep my eye on the situation, and if he is doing things legit, gladly offer any advice to him.

I agree with you, I can't see how observers obscure anything. It is only when making people choose a side that things could really be obscured it seems to me, but I know nothing.

Well, I chose a side. I then went through and read the full thread about Hell. That dude griefed out the wazoo.

Now, I don't compleyely blame him for bits of the griefing. The rules for invasions aren't just stakced, they are ridiculously complicated for an invader to hold onto a region for ANY length of time. That said, them be the rules.

The main thing to me is after being pointed out, I'm not totally sure he is now playing the rules. I can see past his seemingly contempt for natives, but just not sure he is going to be cut and dry on the rules. For that reason, I am going to drop my endorsment of him and leave the region (Don't want to have to leave the region, but whatever-- if it makes things clearer then that's a good thing). I'll keep my eye on the situation, and if he is doing things legit, gladly offer any advice to him.

Hey, I am being legal. I unban all natives, and I don't put a pass (I refuse to send T-grams to 120+ nations :evil: ) and sure, I eject all non-natives and recently ejected a guy who entered the region giving me his support (Don't know who the hell he is, so he must go). Other than that, I think I'm keeping it legal.

Hey, I am being legal. I unban all natives, and I don't put a pass (I refuse to send T-grams to 120+ nations :evil: ) and sure, I eject all non-natives and recently ejected a guy who entered the region giving me his support (Don't know who the hell he is, so he must go). Other than that, I think I'm keeping it legal.

What about ejecting Nuva? Is he not a native, as previously stated?

Hey, I am being legal. I unban all natives, and I don't put a pass (I refuse to send T-grams to 120+ nations :evil: ) and sure, I eject all non-natives and recently ejected a guy who entered the region giving me his support (Don't know who the hell he is, so he must go). Other than that, I think I'm keeping it legal.

What about ejecting Nuva? Is he not a native, as previously stated?

Hell no. He is some guy who jumped into the region a couple of days after my takeover. I know who the natives of hell are, I scouted the region two weeks prior before I invaded.

Hey, I have been banned from Hell for 2 days now, and I still haven't been unbanned. I have been in Hell since Sheol, so there is no way I'm not a native. So whats the problem Spanish Legionaries? Thought that you were trying to play it fair?

Hey, I have been banned from Hell for 2 days now, and I still haven't been unbanned. I have been in Hell since Sheol, so there is no way I'm not a native. So whats the problem Spanish Legionaries? Thought that you were trying to play it fair?

Someone thinks they can get away with breaking the rules if they appear to make excuses for everything they've done, it looks like.

I can only go by what was written, and I want to be fair to you. My concern is that you are now following the rules, tho only through push by push direction from mods. You seemed not to have followed the rules for a while, and might now seem to be following them. I am only holding off my phyiscal support to see if you continue your recent trend of following the rules.

Again, I can't completely blame you, for invaders the rules are almost impossible. I understand. I just want to see you continue to follow the rules first.

That said, still feel free to tm me, I will gladly lend my ear and other support while waiting to see how you continue to do as Del.

Hey, I have been banned from Hell for 2 days now, and I still haven't been unbanned. I have been in Hell since Sheol, so there is no way I'm not a native. So whats the problem Spanish Legionaries? Thought that you were trying to play it fair?

You weren't in the region when I got there...

Hey, I have been banned from Hell for 2 days now, and I still haven't been unbanned. I have been in Hell since Sheol, so there is no way I'm not a native. So whats the problem Spanish Legionaries? Thought that you were trying to play it fair?

You weren't in the region when I got there...


D'you write them all down or something?

You let my ambassador in, he's always watching...

That would be like asking i need to know every mod in mercia the next generation, It isnt happening, there are a couple mod puppets in the region...

Hey, I have been banned from Hell for 2 days now, and I still haven't been unbanned. I have been in Hell since Sheol, so there is no way I'm not a native. So whats the problem Spanish Legionaries? Thought that you were trying to play it fair?

You weren't in the region when I got there...

Really? Then what possessed you to TM the "new password" to Hell when you became delegate? You can have the Mods check. There is a TM, from you, in my message box, with Hell's "new password" which I see you have taken off.

So seriously, I AM a native. Unban me!

Hey, I have been banned from Hell for 2 days now, and I still haven't been unbanned. I have been in Hell since Sheol, so there is no way I'm not a native. So whats the problem Spanish Legionaries? Thought that you were trying to play it fair?

You weren't in the region when I got there...

Really? Then what possessed you to TM the "new password" to Hell when you became delegate? You can have the Mods check. There is a TM, from you, in my message box, with Hell's "new password" which I see you have taken off.

So seriously, I AM a native. Unban me!

T-gram the entire copy of that t-gram I sent you. If it is true, I'll unban you.

T-gram the entire copy of that t-gram I sent you. If it is true, I'll unban you.

The mods have ways of knowing whos is/was a native and who is/not a native now. If the mods rule he/she's a native without proof of that telegram, well, you'll have to unban them and give the password to them again.

Sythia, you will unban Vinnegeal. Now. No questions or objections. Do it.

I don't intend to step on the mod's toes, but it appears that this invasion has broken the rules several times. Maybe I'm not seeing something, but shouldn't Sythia be punished for griefing?

I don't intend to step on the mod's toes, but it appears that this invasion has broken the rules several times. Maybe I'm not seeing something, but shouldn't Sythia be punished for griefing?



:?

I don't intend to step on the mod's toes, but it appears that this invasion has broken the rules several times. Maybe I'm not seeing something, but shouldn't Sythia be punished for griefing?
I was wondering that myself .. I know I've seen invaders deleted for doing just one of the many things Sythia has gotten away with so far ...

Naleth and Tuesday heights, you're both on drugs. I am following these absurd rules.

Tell me what I've done wrong? I unban natives, and.... that's it. I'm too lazy to t-gram 130+ Nations, so I don't put a password anymore.

Amuse me, what rules am I breaking?

You have:
- Unbanne Natives .. after a few hours (or a day in Asp's case, even going so far as to state that this was your intent), rather then instantly.
- Passworded the region without TGing every native ... or even just the one's you've booted (yes, I realize your lazy .. solution is don't use a password to begin with)
- Tried to give out the password as a riddle on the CHQ (I forget who it was that did this a few months ago .. although I'm pretty sure it was something else that got him deleted in the end, the mods were very strongly against the idea)

Like I said...
I know I've seen invaders deleted for doing just one of the many things Sythia has gotten away with so far ...
But apperently, you must be doing something right because you're still here.

Also, pushing the limits of flamming rules (insulting me and Tuesday) probably isn't going to help whatever case you have going for you.

You have:
- Unbanne Natives .. after a few hours (or a day in Asp's case, even going so far as to state that this was your intent), rather then instantly.
- Passworded the region without TGing every native ... or even just the one's you've booted (yes, I realize your lazy .. solution is don't use a password to begin with)
- Tried to give out the password as a riddle on the CHQ (I forget who it was that did this a few months ago .. although I'm pretty sure it was something else that got him deleted in the end, the mods were very strongly against the idea)

Like I said...
I know I've seen invaders deleted for doing just one of the many things Sythia has gotten away with so far ...
But apperently, you must be doing something right because you're still here.

Dunno what it is. Especially since moderators Loathe me, especially Castrated Sputniks.

Or perhaps I'd been working a 12hr work week and just hadnt gotten around to taking care of business. That, and we wanted to watch Sythia dig himself a bigger hole.


Sythia, you are no longer welcome on this site. You are hereby 'buckwheat.' Continued attempts to return to this community will result in actions other than the mere deletion of your nations.

Or perhaps I'd been working a 12hr work week and just hadnt gotten around to taking care of business. That, and we wanted to watch Sythia dig himself a bigger hole.


Sythia, you are no longer welcome on this site. You are hereby 'buckwheat.' Continued attempts to return to this community will result in actions other than the mere deletion of your nations.

Wait, there are more punishments other than DEAT on site? Interesting...

I was told to take this to the forums, so...this is what I posted in Hell, and I still believe it:

Ok, I just had to come back...he took the password off like 5 days ago...and it takes you this long to decide to DEAT him? On a Friday night? That what politicians do when they have bad news that they need to admit to but don't want the bad publicity...they release it on a Friday night, because it's such a slow news cycle. Nice.

So, by the time anyone sees this, the news will be long dead. Oh well.

It was done tonight as I was absent from Modding all week due to working 12hr shifts, and as the Mod in charge of the situation, it was ultimately my call as to when/if Sythia would be deleted.

Or perhaps I'd been working a 12hr work week and just hadnt gotten around to taking care of business. That, and we wanted to watch Sythia dig himself a bigger hole.


Sythia, you are no longer welcome on this site. You are hereby 'buckwheat.' Continued attempts to return to this community will result in actions other than the mere deletion of your nations.
That's too bad.

He's the first major league (IP-banned) rulebreaker whom I've found that I like.
Dunno, why, I just like talking to him. :?

Odd how the human psyche functions . . .

Well that, and I never did find out how he manages to recruit so successfully.

I guess with some nations you can love to hate them.

It was done tonight as I was absent from Modding all week due to working 12hr shifts, and as the Mod in charge of the situation, it was ultimately my call as to when/if Sythia would be deleted.
Is it just me, or are alot of key people in NS working long hours?

Labarador is too (well not 12 hours but long), and I seem to recall somebody else commenting on it as well.

Hey, I am being legal. I unban all natives, and I don't put a pass (I refuse to send T-grams to 120+ nations :evil: ) and sure, I eject all non-natives and recently ejected a guy who entered the region giving me his support (Don't know who the hell he is, so he must go). Other than that, I think I'm keeping it legal.

What about ejecting Nuva? Is he not a native, as previously stated?

Hell no. He is some guy who jumped into the region a couple of days after my takeover. I know who the natives of hell are, I scouted the region two weeks prior before I invaded.

I moved my nation to Hell back in about September, long before you took over. Please get your facts straight before you go spouting off like that.

Hey, I am being legal. I unban all natives, and I don't put a pass (I refuse to send T-grams to 120+ nations :evil: ) and sure, I eject all non-natives and recently ejected a guy who entered the region giving me his support (Don't know who the hell he is, so he must go). Other than that, I think I'm keeping it legal.

What about ejecting Nuva? Is he not a native, as previously stated?

Hell no. He is some guy who jumped into the region a couple of days after my takeover. I know who the natives of hell are, I scouted the region two weeks prior before I invaded.

I moved my nation to Hell back in about September, long before you took over. Please get your facts straight before you go spouting off like that.

Not to take away the steam of your post.... but you know you are arguing with a Deated guy, right?

Hey, I am being legal. I unban all natives, and I don't put a pass (I refuse to send T-grams to 120+ nations :evil: ) and sure, I eject all non-natives and recently ejected a guy who entered the region giving me his support (Don't know who the hell he is, so he must go). Other than that, I think I'm keeping it legal.

What about ejecting Nuva? Is he not a native, as previously stated?

Hell no. He is some guy who jumped into the region a couple of days after my takeover. I know who the natives of hell are, I scouted the region two weeks prior before I invaded.

I moved my nation to Hell back in about September, long before you took over. Please get your facts straight before you go spouting off like that.

Not to take away the steam of your post.... but you know you are arguing with a Deated guy, right?

Yea...been a bad week. Just p*sses me off when guys like him cut ppl down to justify their actions.

Understood.

I entered the region for like 2 days, had to endorse him (wanted to just hang out while evaluating the situation, but got kicked by a mod and put on the ban list because I was not either a defender or an invader-- so I chose to go with my native pull for a day or two). Once I looked at the history, I know this is biased and no offence is meant-- but I think if one of my group had cheated like this guy did we would not have been in the game as long as him. And that is not meant to insult the mods, but we are hight profile at times and are often examples of the rules. This guys totally should have been deleted a long time ago.

Despite all the rules junk, he seemed to be a jerk. He certainly was arrogant and a bit rude.

Understood.

I entered the region for like 2 days, had to endorse him (wanted to just hang out while evaluating the situation, but got kicked by a mod and put on the ban list because I was not either a defender or an invader-- so I chose to go with my native pull for a day or two). Once I looked at the history, I know this is biased and no offence is meant-- but I think if one of my group had cheated like this guy did we would not have been in the game as long as him. And that is not meant to insult the mods, but we are hight profile at times and are often examples of the rules. This guys totally should have been deleted a long time ago.

Despite all the rules junk, he seemed to be a jerk. He certainly was arrogant and a bit rude.

Like I've already said I play no part in takeovers etc. and want no part of it. I was just looking for advice on what to do because I didn't want to end up in the middle of a mess. Things seem to have settled down, so I moved back to the region. Hope I made the right move.

Ackbar, you'll remember that most times we decide to ban a person from our site, we generally give them a nice, long rope to hang themselves with. Sythia was given quite the long one, and he took full advantage of it.

As for your ejection, I thought I had explained my actions. Why must you continue to claim bias?

Maybe because the mods in general (not necessarily you) aren't quite so zealous when punishing "defender" rule-breakers and seem to have a hair-trigger when it comes to invaders.

If you're a "defender", you can lock down a region with password, and not send it to anyone for days while you try your best to figure out what you personally believe to be right, which shouldn't have any bearing on anything.

Why the special treatment?

Maybe because the mods in general (not necessarily you) aren't quite so zealous when punishing "defender" rule-breakers and seem to have a hair-trigger when it comes to invaders.

If you're a "defender", you can lock down a region with password, and not send it to anyone for days while you try your best to figure out what you personally believe to be right, which shouldn't have any bearing on anything.

Why the special treatment?

There isn't any special treatment. Same rules applies to both.

Or perhaps I'd been working a 12hr work week and just hadnt gotten around to taking care of business. That, and we wanted to watch Sythia dig himself a bigger hole.


Sythia, you are no longer welcome on this site. You are hereby 'buckwheat.' Continued attempts to return to this community will result in actions other than the mere deletion of your nations.
That's too bad.

He's the first major league (IP-banned) rulebreaker whom I've found that I like.
Dunno, why, I just like talking to him. :?

Odd how the human psyche functions . . .

Well that, and I never did find out how he manages to recruit so successfully.



I liked him as well but after he started breaking the rules too badly i decided to quit my support of him.

I realised what he was doing was very illegal and he was bringing my region down with him. I had actually wanted an alliance with One Bad Asp but when i found out it had been invaded i sided withg the delegate but when i found out what was really happening i withdrew support.

But it was fun to watch don't you think?

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Maybe because the mods in general (not necessarily you) aren't quite so zealous when punishing "defender" rule-breakers and seem to have a hair-trigger when it comes to invaders.

If you're a "defender", you can lock down a region with password, and not send it to anyone for days while you try your best to figure out what you personally believe to be right, which shouldn't have any bearing on anything.

Why the special treatment?

There isn't any special treatment. Same rules applies to both.

Not necessarily.

If you're a "defender", you can lock down a region with password, and not send it to anyone for days while you try your best to figure out what you personally believe to be right, which shouldn't have any bearing on anything.

I've seen that once, recently, and it was clearly said that was an exception. Personally, I'm not counting on that exception being made again in the future.

Ballotonia

If you're a "defender", you can lock down a region with password, and not send it to anyone for days while you try your best to figure out what you personally believe to be right, which shouldn't have any bearing on anything.

Why the special treatment?

I've never seen that happen. My colleagues and I have always been careful to abide by the rules.

That was indeed a special case resulting from 3-4 different groups fighting over the region, and each one claiming to be native. Thus, I said the group who currently had the delegate spot could take a few days to figure out who's native and who's not. Dont count on this happening again, because it probably wont.

Had a busy few days and missed all the fun (typical). :lol:

Ackbar, you'll remember that most times we decide to ban a person from our site, we generally give them a nice, long rope to hang themselves with. Sythia was given quite the long one, and he took full advantage of it.

Absolutely. Seen many a fool dance with the rope before.


As for your ejection, I thought I had explained my actions. Why must you continue to claim bias?

You completely misunderstand what I am referring to, which is fine. I know I was speaking about the objection on one hand, but I assure that was a tangent about something else that happened recently (which, again, was not intentional and did end up working out for the best—no hard feelings at all). I was simply stating that I believe we are on a pretty short rope at times. And to be honest, I think it is because of the exact opposite reason as Sythia. You knew he was an idiot, and were awaiting for him to make water all over the rules. Like-wise, I think since it is hopefully well known that we are consistently, and constantly within the rules, that there is a greater expectation with us then with some other individuals. Again, that comment was just a tangent, had nothing to do with my ejection from the region (which I’ve already said I was cool with, even if I didn’t fully get—afterall I don’t have to get it), and there are no hard feelings at all for the more recent incident—I like the mod who was involved, and still do, and justice did play out nicely. It was, as is this, just a tangent. We cool, Neut?

Maybe because the mods in general (not necessarily you) aren't quite so zealous when punishing "defender" rule-breakers and seem to have a hair-trigger when it comes to invaders.

If you're a "defender", you can lock down a region with password, and not send it to anyone for days while you try your best to figure out what you personally believe to be right, which shouldn't have any bearing on anything.

Why the special treatment?

There isn't any special treatment. Same rules applies to both.

Same rules do, yes. Same punishments, no.

No offence, but feel free to speak about whatever you want. But if you don’t know the particular situation being referred to, you might be wrong. In this case, you are. Again, it all worked out, but that doesn’t mean that a pattern of being more gun-shy to one group rather then other won’t lead up to at least a mild frustration at times. I don’t believe it is done on purpose (and I honestly hold no ill will for it), but that has little to do with it’s occurrence or not.

That said, it’s all cool. Only, sometimes it’s cooler then others.

Not wanting a response, I simply know Neut has been busy in RL lately, wanted to be sure he saw that we still don't have a prob between one another. So, not expecting a Neut response, just trying to be sure he had a chance to read my earlier response.