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Most if the Nations in the FMC(Frithian Mercinary Corps) were hacked into and for some the passwords where changed. I am actualy the nation of "Toored" but do to the hacker I can no longer activate that nation. He also changed my e-mail, and passwords to my other nations. This goes for a few other FMC members as well. I am using this nation because the founder gave me the passowrd incase of a situation like this. Although I was able to save the region I lost my own nation in the process. The Hacker was Grazon(he is also the founder of the nation "Jag" or "JAG"). His other nations are "Grazzon and Grazzzon. Please note that he did this in order too, as he said before "GO out with a bang". That isnt a very good reason. I am not sure if you(the MOD's) can do anything to help us but if you can do something, even if it is just deleting all of Grazon's nations for his crime we would appreciate it. thank you for your time.

-Toored/all FMC nations(natives)

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It is also very possible that the hacker was Fist

I dont think so though. because I have seen that Fist has had a mass deletion and the mods can probly prove it was him. I also read that. Cogantions (fist) was IP banned so what the problem is, could have been delt with. Maybe Fist did it, maybe Grazon did it. I stick with my saying just like in the boards. Only the mods can prove (if that) that anyone did it. It could have even been an enemy of the FMC. I know Nerroth would have never greifed his own region. And I feel extremely terrible for the rest of the FMC natives that have been crulely kicked from there homeland. The main question is. Who actually "Hacked" these nations?

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yes this is rather unfortunate, and i hope this will be investaged througly considering the circumstances

yes this is rather unfortunate, and i hope this will be investaged througly considering the circumstances

yes this is rather unfortunate, and i hope this will be investaged througly considering the circumstances

That is the real diet

Hacking is a serious offense. Perhaps filing a getting help report would be more prudent.

Hacking is a serious offense. Perhaps filing a getting help report would be more prudent.

we have but we are very upset and confused about thw whole thing. Most of us have been forced to use are puppet nations

Hacking is a serious offense. Perhaps filing a getting help report would be more prudent.

we have but we are very upset and confused about thw whole thing. Most of us have been forced to use are puppet nations

For cases like this. This makes it worth makeing a puppet every now and then. It is a damn shame that people must go on like this. The Mods may not even respond because the "hacker" may have been deleted. In this case. Fist.

yeah, this entire thing is getting so frustrating - we just need our nations, regions, and security back - poeple are taking this way to seriously, and hacking and ip masks and such needs to be stopped

yeah, this entire thing is getting so frustrating - we just need our nations, regions, and security back - poeple are taking this way to seriously, and hacking and ip masks and such needs to be stopped

Getting hacked into is serious, and I am sure that if we all are patient the MOD's will help us

(Real Nerroth) Something must be done, its crazy how a whole region and several nations could get messed up in like four hours.

and I think that the hacker did something because I am not UN anymore

See the problem I see with this is the nation of Uberman betrayed the leader of Frith 2 days ago, yet now he's being endorsed by Uberman. Would seem that Frith has been taken and is now dead as invaders are wearing the name of the rightful nations but aren't the nations.

See the problem I see with this is the nation of Uberman betrayed the leader of Frith 2 days ago, yet now he's being endorsed by Uberman. Would seem that Frith has been taken and is now dead as invaders are wearing the name of the rightful nations but aren't the nations.

technicaly it cant be called an invasion since it was a hacker. How would you feel if I hacked into your nation and changed the password? exactly

Captain Ginyu the man wearing the nation of Imperial Diet isn't the leader or rightful owner of that nation. Uberman betrayed him 2 days ago yet is now endorsing him. Do you not find that funny?

I have traced this to wear it has come from but at the moment my region is in the midst of a re-orginization of our own or would fix this ourselves. As for being hacked it pays to have a firewall.

Captain Ginyu the man wearing the nation of Imperial Diet isn't the leader or rightful owner of that nation. Uberman betrayed him 2 days ago yet is now endorsing him. Do you not find that funny?

I have traced this to wear it has come from but at the moment my region is in the midst of a re-orginization of our own or would fix this ourselves. As for being hacked it pays to have a firewall.

I was using diets nation because he trusted me enough to give me the password incase of emergencies. I did what I had to do with it and now it is back in his control. Also, most of us are upset because are nations that we have spent months with building up the population are now gone.

This is The Anti-Commi Clan, the real one. My nation, The Anti-Commi Clan, is still in the hands of one of the hackers. Sux. I may get it back thanks to the mods, or by dealing with the hackers. We got Objectivist Chimps back by dealing with the hackers, and are now rebuilding GGLAR which was also hacked and greifed.

The mod, Cogitation, seems to be doing some work on this, but this is gonna recquire a lot of work for the mods.

To Bowtieman, I have seen you around before, and you are up to no good. Captain Ginyu is Toored (or used to be, before Toored was hacked) and is a respected nation. Whatever Ubermancer is doing is of no importance now, except that he is a spy.

My nation, which is still not mine, is also not UN. The hacker resigned me it seems.

This will be a apinful rebuilding process, but we will do what we have too.

The rightful ruler of this region knows in times like this he could count on my region to back him up. He also knows that if needed my region would provide safe harbor for him and his allies while everything was sorted out.

But as it's just a puppet on a string and not him all I can say is your being taken out and your not even aware of it. Just wish they had been smarter and not used the nation that betrayed him is all. Next of course Arcadan can come back from Alpineholm and endorse him next. Then you can be 2 for 2 on Judas's

Serves you right. You guys got a taste of your own medicine. I dont know who did it but I am amused by it

bowtie, i accept your help and would like to maintain our alliance, however we can deal with this ourselves thank you...i gave toored the password in case of emergency

This is The Anti-Commi Clan, the real one. My nation, The Anti-Commi Clan, is still in the hands of one of the hackers. Sux. I may get it back thanks to the mods, or by dealing with the hackers. We got Objectivist Chimps back by dealing with the hackers, and are now rebuilding GGLAR which was also hacked and greifed.

The mod, Cogitation, seems to be doing some work on this, but this is gonna recquire a lot of work for the mods.

To Bowtieman, I have seen you around before, and you are up to no good. Captain Ginyu is Toored (or used to be, before Toored was hacked) and is a respected nation. Whatever Ubermancer is doing is of no importance now, except that he is a spy.

My nation, which is still not mine, is also not UN. The hacker resigned me it seems.

This will be a apinful rebuilding process, but we will do what we have too.

thanks Anti-Commi Clan, I also respect you very much and hope that are regions can pull together and help eachother rebuild

The Anti-Commi Clan
Imperial Diet, the rightful ruler was a part of my alliance and also a respected Ambassador at our off-site forum. Do not call into question my motives here as your own leader can tell you my motives are all good.

if you are not involved in this than do not post, back to power, only a mod or some one who knows the rules of the game should post

Damn this is going quick. I just finished that and 2 or 3 more posts have beat me to it.

I wish I could assist but as my region is in the midst of moving we are caught with our pants down and our noodles in our hands. Only half strength in at the moment but whatever you need you only have to call.

I think the reason that we are worried so much is that we dont no for sure who the hacker is. Although, I would like to thank the MOD who is spending some of his time working on the case

It isnt like you guys never hacked someone elses nation.

It isnt like you guys never hacked someone elses nation.

I take that as an insult

the nation formerly know as fist is threatening to hack my nation, this is ridiculous that i have to worry about being hacked

this is a telegram i got from Toored2(my own puppet) while it was still under hacker controll.

"no one tells his secrets. Now you seriously think Fist did this.... didn't Fist tell you I was going out with a bang. Well I am. I hacked his nation but never changed his pass, thats how I know what you and fist talk about. Enjoy the game this is the last time we will speak "
-Grazon-

correction, grazon is most likely responsible i don't know about fist

correction, grazon is most likely responsible i don't know about fist

I agree since right after this whole thing Grazon resighned as the leader of "JAG"

correction, grazon is most likely responsible i don't know about fist

I agree since right after this whole thing Grazon resighned as the leader of "JAG"

Like that letter said. He was going to go out with a bang. Then he gave up the nation: Grazon

I am just to confused to understand.

correction, grazon is most likely responsible i don't know about fist

I agree since right after this whole thing Grazon resighned as the leader of "JAG"

Like that letter said. He was going to go out with a bang. Then he gave up the nation: Grazon

I am just to confused to understand.

because if you used his nation you would of been linked to it, thats my theory.

yes so very confusing

correction, grazon is most likely responsible i don't know about fist

I agree since right after this whole thing Grazon resighned as the leader of "JAG"

Like that letter said. He was going to go out with a bang. Then he gave up the nation: Grazon

I am just to confused to understand.

because if you used his nation you would of been linked to it, thats my theory.


But I still have the TM with his old password and all and his confession to give it to me. So if the mods read that, they should understand right?

correction, grazon is most likely responsible i don't know about fist

I agree since right after this whole thing Grazon resighned as the leader of "JAG"

Like that letter said. He was going to go out with a bang. Then he gave up the nation: Grazon

I am just to confused to understand.

because if you used his nation you would of been linked to it, thats my theory.


But I still have the TM with his old password and all and his confession to give it to me. So if the mods read that, they should understand right?
I guess?

we need all the evidence we can find

ok then that makes everything good. :)

we need all the evidence we can find

Thats pretty hard to find when everyone could have been secertly hacked into, with the password changing.

I just applied to the UN again and will see what happens

toored, do you still have control over the FMC general of toored, because it showed up in the FMC

toored, do you still have control over the FMC general of toored, because it showed up in the FMC

I just got it back

Sent you 2 nations so far to help hold your goverment up but it's almost 1am so finding them is tough. I'll send more in the morning when others are on.

Just a bad time to have your region go down when mine is split in 2 like it is. Wish I could offer more.

Sent you 2 nations so far to help hold your goverment up but it's almost 1am so finding them is tough. I'll send more in the morning when others are on.

Just a bad time to have your region go down when mine is split in 2 like it is. Wish I could offer more.
you did what you could, thanks

thanks

I am not sure that I understand what has happened to your region, but I want to let you know that you do have friends in The New Republic Near America. I have been sent here by our leader to offer you any assistance that I can. I have endorsed Diet 3. Please let me know if there is any other way that we or I can be of service.

There was a post calling into question the integrity of Bowtie. I understand the paranoia concerning outsiders after what has happened to you. But let me assure you that his motives are pure. His request for my presence was urgent and sincere. We are interested in maintaining a long-term relationship with your region that is beneficial to us both while at the same time acknowledging the indepedence of each region.

Chief Smarty Smarty
Benevolent Dictator
The Incorporated States of Smartdom

this guy that sayz he got hacked, is he sure of that? or is he not using his passwords carefully on a public computer, workplace computer, or collegue's computer? someone can easily install a key logger, or at work, maybe your boss logs what you did and stole your password!

I've been out of town, but I'm back now, and will take a look into this. Please do not get your hopes up, though. The great majority of hacking is due to guessing passwords and auto-logins. Two things we cannot change. Even if we determine that a nation has been hacked, we may be unable to restore it to its original owner.

However, I will do what I can.

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This is the Omnipotent Moose. I have all my nations back and things are looking up. We may yet salvage this train wreck. What we do know is that many nations were hacked (it seems all the leading officials in the FMC and GGLAR, though we should be thankfull that Diet wasn't hacked). It also seems clear that Grazon was behind this, and has indeed gone out with a bang. Cogitation (the mod) is working on this and has all the info he needs. I sent him a lengthy TM explaining the situation yesterday, and he's already managed to delete Fist (a potential hacker) so I think this is looking good. A lot of people are getting their nations back, so soon the great rebuilding can commense.

You may think that i had somthing to do with the deletions in the FMC i did not, this si the last remaining grazon and i dont expect to hold him for long, all my other grazons have been hacked by fist. (if you want proof that it is me, i can answer any question you awnt) Also i wish for the mods to unlock grazon to me. If not i am fine with this decision i gope they understnad what ahppend though. As for nerroth i was in his file because fist gave me the pass. This was a last ditch effor tby me to save the region by turning off delegate controls. Somehow Since fist was still logged in it did not effect him since he was already in regional controls. If you dont believe me i understand but im doing what i can to fix this mess.

This was a hacking the info was not stolen. Fist is using a program to hack everyone. What is the chance of both the GGLAR and FMC crashing in 10 minuits of each other not to mention the fact that many nations from these areas were unable to access them. This is probably my last post since i have a feeling im gonna get hacked Good luck gentelmen.

General Grazon Out.

I think i'm the first anti-invader to post on this thread...to be honest i've little sympathy for the Frith. You where organising to invade regions and now you've had a taste of your own medicine you dont like it!

I'm sure the irony will not be lost on you but then I don't think the experience will humble you in any way either...shame really. :(

I think i'm the first anti-invader to post on this thread...to be honest i've little sympathy for the Frith. You where organising to invade regions and now you've had a taste of your own medicine you dont like it!

I'm sure the irony will not be lost on you but then I don't think the experience will humble you in any way either...shame really. :(
How is invading even remotely in the same league as griefing and hacking?

This was a hacking the info was not stolen. Fist is using a program to hack everyone. What is the chance of both the GGLAR and FMC crashing in 10 minuits of each other not to mention the fact that many nations from these areas were unable to access them. This is probably my last post since i have a feeling im gonna get hacked Good luck gentelmen.

General Grazon Out.

No offence, but this is an OPSEC problem, not hacking.

Seriously, if you could honestly hack any account, why would you hack a player account?

No offence, but this is an OPSEC problem, not hacking.

Seriously, if you could honestly hack any account, why would you hack a player account?

Do these players give the passwords to their nations to others in their organization? Seems like a weird thing to do. Don't get me wrong, I can see reasons why one might give the password to a founder account to another trusted individual (like, I have the password for the founder of Holland) but passwords for the entire leadership???

Ballotonia

Could be any number of things, including easily guessed passwords, or nations with 'autologon' turned on and used from a public terminal.