NationStates Jolt Archive

Given that our founder was deleted (hrmph) and we're not a huge nation, we now have this problem:


Nations of hell, you have now been conquered by The Sadistic Empire, The Greater Krackin Empire, NWO, and Dark Angels. As of now, Martial Law will be enforced on the region. No more endorsement swapping, if you have more endorsements than I,(I check) you will find a new home in the Rejected Realms. The Infamous Sythia is back.


What can be done about this?

Cheers :)

if you have more endorsements than I,(I check) you will find a new home in the Rejected Realms

I'd like to know how he plans on doing that. If someone had more endorsements, they would become the new UN Delegate and could eject him into the Rejected Realms.

if you have more endorsements than I,(I check) you will find a new home in the Rejected Realms

I'd like to know how he plans on doing that. If someone had more endorsements, they would become the new UN Delegate and could eject him into the Rejected Realms.

He can eject the nation that had more endorsements. This would send that nation to The Rejected Realms. Then, he could remove said nation from the banlist.

Ejecting a native is legal as long as the native is immediately removed from the banlist.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

yeah, he just has to make sure he checks before the update

So as our founder was deleted, we basically have to just bend over and take it?

Excellent. :(

if you have more endorsements than I,(I check) you will find a new home in the Rejected Realms

I'd like to know how he plans on doing that. If someone had more endorsements, they would become the new UN Delegate and could eject him into the Rejected Realms.

He can eject the nation that had more endorsements. This would send that nation to The Rejected Realms. Then, he could remove said nation from the banlist.

Ejecting a native is legal as long as the native is immediately removed from the banlist.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

"The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria is banned from Hell."

I'm a native and I can't get back in, can something please be done about this?

I must agree with BaalZoria. Over an hour has passed and the invader hasn't unbanned him.

I say, unleash the hellspawns!!

other than that it seems like a pretty legal invasion

I must agree with BaalZoria. Over an hour has passed and the invader hasn't unbanned him.

I say, unleash the hellspawns!!

If natives haven't been unbanned it is not a legal invasion, it is a violation of the rules.

I must agree with BaalZoria. Over an hour has passed and the invader hasn't unbanned him.

I say, unleash the hellspawns!!

If natives haven't been unbanned it is not a legal invasion, it is a violation of the rules.

yea but that looks like the only thing they did wrong

Well..

Now he has banned some more individuals. Me for one :evil:

5 minutes ago: The Rogue Nation of Asmodean departed this region for The Rejected Realms
5 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries ejected The Rogue Nation of Asmodean from the region.
5 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries removed The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria from the regional ban list.
48 minutes ago: The Emirate of RH-64 Commando Unit departed this region for The East Pacific
2 hours ago: The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria departed this region for The Rejected Realms
2 hours ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries ejected The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria from the region.
2 hours ago: The Republic of Grimm Reaper departed this region for Zzyxx
2 hours ago: The Republic of Grimm Reaper arrived from Juxtaposition X.
3 hours ago: The Empire of The Hellions of Evil arrived from RoShamBo.
3 hours ago: The Empire of The Hellions of Evil departed this region for RoShamBo

And I haven't been unbanned. Yes.. I has only taken 5 minuts or so since my banning. But I highly doubt I will be unbanned.

Could someone help me.. it is bloody freezing in the RR!

Well, we're now unbanned, but the nation is password protected. So missing the 7 minute window to get back in I find myself still out of luck.


10 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries removed The Rogue Nation of Asmodean from the regional ban list.
10 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries password-protected the region.
17 minutes ago: The Rogue Nation of Asmodean departed this region for The Rejected Realms
17 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries ejected The Rogue Nation of Asmodean from the region.
17 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries removed The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria from the regional ban list.

This sux!!!

Directly, fresh.. hot and warm from HELL's messageboard.

13 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries Also, the password again will be something like "..."

Remember, the password is right there. It's more or less of a riddle. If you can figure it out, I'll personally leave the region.

It's that blatant and easy.



12 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries PS:

Password will be taken off tomorrow after the UN update which is around 6:00 AM


He doesn't give out the PASSWORD!!
Yes, I know, poor crashers, so many rules for them to abide. yes, poor wretched crashers. Must unbann the natives if ejected (wich he hasnt) and must give out password.

Question: Does a riddle count as giving out a password?

now he is griefing

I must agree with BaalZoria. Over an hour has passed and the invader hasn't unbanned him.

I say, unleash the hellspawns!!

If natives haven't been unbanned it is not a legal invasion, it is a violation of the rules.

yea but that looks like the only thing they did wrong

It's ok if you only do one thing wrong then? ;)

no but they almost had a legal invasion

If I was a mod, I'd keep an eye on that region. I'm not a mod, but I'll help you in any way I can, anyways.

P.S. I'm smart. I might be able to get the password for you if I figure out the riddle.

I don't mind legal invasion. He can strutt how much he wants with changing the WFE and threaten and such. But the rules has been instatet because of those who have sufficated regions in the past.

Now.. he followed the rules until the first ejection..
Now he should be dragged out of Hell. It is to evil and hellish place to abide him. I think.. yes. The Pacific would be a nice sentence for him. Let him suffer a bit. :twisted:

If I was a mod, I'd keep an eye on that region. I'm not a mod, but I'll help you in any way I can, anyways.

P.S. I'm smart. I might be able to get the password for you if I figure out the riddle.

Wait what riddle :?:

13 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries Also, the password again will be something like "..."

Remember, the password is right there. It's more or less of a riddle. If you can figure it out, I'll personally leave the region.

It's that blatant and easy.

Now.. he followed the rules until the first ejection..
Now he should be dragged out of Hell. It is to evil and hellish place to abide him. I think.. yes. The Pacific would be a nice sentence for him. Let him suffer a bit. :twisted:

Plus, he can't take a joke. Can I help it that he has an inferiority complex about his size? :lol:

13 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries Also, the password again will be something like "..."

Remember, the password is right there. It's more or less of a riddle. If you can figure it out, I'll personally leave the region.

It's that blatant and easy.


Yeah, but if you get it wrong (I took a few guesses) you get:


10 minutes ago: The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria tried to enter the region but did not know the password.


Which is a little embarrassing!

Oh boy.. Did he get a warning or something. I am no longer banned :evil:

Now whats the bloody password? Any guesses?

if its that easy maybe its his name or maybe its hell

try "the"

Already tested "hell"

try password

You know..
It would have been much easier that he had just sent out the password to the nations inside Hell. Not that I think I could have squesed the answer out from someone of them.. but it would atleast have stopped my hellish curiosity. .

banned 45 minuts from entering password protected areas.

1) The Nation Trainer, one of my puppets, is on that list for trying to guess the password too many times.

2) The password has just been removed after my most recent view on the region.

Ok..
I am in.
Lets see whats happens

*sits back and takes out popcorn*

Well, I'm back in and (un)happy once more. Cheers to whomever lit a fire under his ass :)

Hell Civil Headquarters, highlighting the particularly loathsome points:

Hell Civil Headquarters
Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.

Lodged From Message
43 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries Inferior? Ok...

Anyways, this nation trainer guy if he enters, he will be ejected and not unbanned. He is not a native and I am not obligated to allow him in.
40 minutes ago The Rogue Nation of Asmodean Yes.. you are quite right there.
Any non-native the invader feels like booting is ok. Its the native stuff you aren't allowed to do.
38 minutes ago The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria Yep, you da man. Assert your authoritah.
37 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries I can eject natives, I just have to allow them back in within a day.
37 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries "The Rogue Nation of Outcast Prepubescence
Received: 2 minutes ago

Endorsed you because I accept you as the new leader of Hell. I will not seek any endorsements in this region. I am happy to just sit and watch my nation grow."

You should all be intelligent as he is.
36 minutes ago The Rogue Nation of Asmodean No
You can eject natives but must unbann them directly, thus allowing them in directly.
36 minutes ago The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria *quivers with fear*

I'm almost done for the day anyway.
35 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries I've made it clear to ASP, Necrophiliacs, and Outcast that they would be allowed back in after the UN updates so their endorsements cleared. With that, only Necro and Outcast decided to return.
25 minutes ago The Mercurial Theocracy of BaalZoria Just in case anyone missed all the excitement I thought I'd leave a little note.

~ Sometime earlier The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries ejected myself, and Asmodean because basically, he can dish it out, but can't take it.

~ He then proceeded to ban us for ~ an hour, after which unbanning us and then passwording the nation, so we couldn't get back anyway.

~ Unfortunately, we've been here for ages, and apparently you're not allowed to do that, as we're natives, so here we are, back again.

Conclusion, our new delegate is all show and no go, toothless, one might say.

This has been a public disservice announcement, bought to you by the letters r, c, t and the number 6.
7 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries Mu-Mu, not a native = Gone.

Seconds ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries Yeah well, the pass is up for the night. You all know it, I posted it countless times on the Civil HQ, if you forgot, tough.


I note that this last comment is complete BS. He never posted a password.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/page=region_control/region=Hell

Yep, there's a password up. Isn't it supposed to be sent by telegram to all natives?

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/page=region_control/region=Hell

Yep, there's a password up. Isn't it supposed to be sent by telegram to all natives?

If you click that link, you have regional control access, is that a glitch???

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/page=region_control/region=Hell

Yep, there's a password up. Isn't it supposed to be sent by telegram to all natives?

If you click that link, you have regional control access, is that a glitch???

It's not a glitch. If you look more closely, you'll notice that you can't actually change any of the regional settings. Just a handy tool that NuMetal taught me.

65 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries password-protected the region.


65 minutes ago The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries Yeah well, the pass is up for the night. You all know it, I posted it countless times on the Civil HQ, if you forgot, tough.

The password is down. I just moved in.

Well I can say like this. *checking through my t-grams* None of the times he has issued the password I have gotten a t-gram from him.

Happilly hellspawns is sniffing at his feet..

3 hours ago NationStates Moderators Sythia: What part of "You must telegram the password to ALL natives immediately" do you fail to understand? Password removed by NS Mods. Do it right, or lose yet another nation.

Is this guy given all the chances that all nations get or is he having a fairy godmother watching his steps? Mayby both :)

That was uncalled for...

If you were here many months ago, you would have known Neurtered Sputniks loathes me.

And Tire...whatever...you're ejected. Non Natives, gotta love them...

On and the password was "thethreedots"

Get it? ... hinted to thethreedots

you're supposed to telegram the password to all the natives, not hint at it on the civil HQ.
if you want to invade, learn the rules.
here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109397), have fun reading.

I read them many months ago.

YOu know, I wouldn't have had a problem if it weren't for that "Plase do not try to send a t-gram so soon after you have sent one" bullshit!

UGH! I hate that. I leave and come back and that thing exists,

Salusa, the hell have you done!

i have to admit, that is annoying when you need to sent a lot of telegrams.
guess it'll just take a minute or so longer to send them now..

i have to admit, that is annoying when you need to sent a lot of telegrams.
guess it'll just take a minute or so longer to send them now..

Now imagine me having to send 130+ Nations the pass.

See what I mean?

not really, i've telegrammed more nations than that before..

They should it where in the regional controls we can put a password and have the option to have it sent to all nations in the region...

Yes of course, why not. As long as you give it out.

Well, see, that's one of the bummers about invading large regions. It's a pain to deal with the spam prohibitor.

However, the fact still remains that you must telegram each and every native the password.

Hints on the regional board are not sufficient.
Hints in the forums are not sufficient.
Hints in the factbook are not sufficient.

Do it right, or don't do it at all.

Is that clear enough for you? I don't want your excuses, I want your compliance. You've been deleted for griefing invasions before, it can be done again.

Well, see, that's one of the bummers about invading large regions. It's a pain to deal with the spam prohibitor.

However, the fact still remains that you must telegram each and every native the password.

Hints on the regional board are not sufficient.
Hints in the forums are not sufficient.
Hints in the factbook are not sufficient.

Do it right, or don't do it at all.

Is that clear enough for you? I don't want your excuses, I want your compliance. You've been deleted for griefing invasions before, it can be done again.

Yeah three damn time.. wait Mangudai, so that makes it 4 times. I feel so discriminated...

Spanish Legionaries: I'm not sure why Hack didn't modbomb you for griefing "Hell". However, since he has chosen not to modbomb you, I'm not going to overrule him.

Pay attention: The password must be telegrammed to all natives. Riddles are not acceptable. If there are a lot of natives, you may ask some of the natives (or, indeed, your fellow invaders) to help you send those telegrams out.

Any ejected natives must be unbanned immediately. This means 1 minute or less. Delay longer than that and you will be modbombed.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

Spanish Legionaries: I'm not sure why Hack didn't modbomb you for griefing "Hell". However, since he has chosen not to modbomb you, I'm not going to overrule him.

Pay attention: The password must be telegrammed to all natives. Riddles are not acceptable. If there are a lot of natives, you may ask some of the natives (or, indeed, your fellow invaders) to help you send those telegrams out.

Any ejected natives must be unbanned immediately. This means 1 minute or less. Delay longer than that and you will be modbombed.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

What if my internet dies and it takes me an hour, I'll still get "modbombed?"

What if my internet dies and it takes me an hour, I'll still get "modbombed?"

If it looks like you were following a pattern of Eject #1/Unban #1/Eject#2/Unban#2/Eject#3/Stop, then I'll probably believe the "my internet died" excuse.

If it looks like you were following a pattern of Eject #1/Eject #2/Eject #3/Stop, then don't expect to find your nation still existing by the time you get back online.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

What if my internet dies and it takes me an hour, I'll still get "modbombed?"

If it looks like you were following a pattern of Eject #1/Unban #1/Eject#2/Unban#2/Eject#3/Stop, then I'll probably believe the "my internet died" excuse.

If it looks like you were following a pattern of Eject #1/Eject #2/Eject #3/Stop, then don't expect to find your nation still existing by the time you get back online.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

Then obviously this shouldn't have came up. This was the patter:

I become Delegate

ASP gets ejected and not unbanned (Not until a day later, he had more endorsements than I, I know I have some right to protect Delegacy)

Eject and unban (This occurs 5 more times)

Foreign Defender comes, eject not unbanned.

Invaders are not natives....

Invaders are not natives....

Nor are defenders. I pointed this out, because as I said, I was Deleted 4 times for griefing, I always tend to get screwed over by a mod....

ASP gets ejected and not unbanned (Not until a day later, he had more endorsements than I, I know I have some right to protect Delegacy)



you can't leave him on the banlist for a day, you'll just have to keep an eye on him..
keeping him on the banlist is griefing.

ASP gets ejected and not unbanned (Not until a day later, he had more endorsements than I, I know I have some right to protect Delegacy)



you can't leave him on the banlist for a day, you'll just have to keep an eye on him..
keeping him on the banlist is griefing.

Then it is impossible to protect delegacy. There should be a rule made here.

You miss the point.
Defenders must abide the same rules as you. You have all the right to bann invaders (those who come from outside to overthrow you) but you cannot bann and not unbann natives getting endorsments.
However (oh this is evil) if they get endorsments from invaders you are rightful to bann his endorsments.

Then it is impossible to protect delegacy. There should be a rule made here.

Not if you eject and unban right before server update. Timing is everything.

Totally correct.

In fact, I thought that was the reason people crashed. For the sport of keeping the delegacy, the timing and all that.

Seems I was wrong. Well, mayby our next delegate in Hell can time it a bit better instead of getting comfy.

Then it is impossible to protect delegacy. There should be a rule made here.

Not if you eject and unban right before server update. Timing is everything.

...

Yeah, Ima get up at 5 in the morning to do this...

Admodean, be honest, is my regime in hell that bad? Have I oppressed you a lot? No.

Admodean, be honest, is my regime in hell that bad? Have I oppressed you a lot? No.

I think you just hit the keystone in the question ;)

You have no knowledge about the laws of crashing correct. And you are to comfy with this "funny" buisness of riddles and such.

Look at it like this. Francos Spain have managed to maintain The Pacific for so long, and soooo many want him out. I would hazard a guess you two have similar timezones. Still, each attack he sits there with his finger at the button. Now.. that is long months he has sat there.

yea but does anyone know the actual time for the update in any time zone

yea but does anyone know the actual time for the update in any time zone

yep :D

yea but does anyone know the actual time for the update in any time zone

yep :D

Well.....

I do to
:twisted:

Edit: Surely.. I would be rather mean to tell my delegate that information. I thought that was standard procedure.. to find out the update time for the region before doing something nasty to the natives. :wink:

well be nice if you could TG me or post here that information

well be nice if you could TG me or post here that information

ROFL

that info is classified :twisted:

well be nice if you could TG me or post here that information

ROFL

that info is classified :twisted:

...........

well be nice if you could TG me or post here that information

ROFL

that info is classified :twisted:

...........

Really, you yourself is a crasher. You have said you wanted to get Hell and Heaven but someone else got there before you. Why in all damnations name should we tell you?

6:00 AM in EST.

I always wake up for school at 6:20 AM and see stuff like "Whoever replaced whoever as UN Delegate 10 minutes ago"

So I'll safely say 6:00 AM EST.

The exact hour varies by region.

For instance, Democratic Underground is one of the last regions to undergo server update.

And in case anyone gets any ideas, any invaders will be booted on sight - I'm one of the most active Founders in NationStates.

Hell was the same, Something Awful too, and also my region.

Hell was the same, Something Awful too, and also my region.

I do admit however, the updates does vary but only a matter of minutes.

Also, I remember a year ago I noticed it changed at 4:00 AM...

Well, last summer.

And in case anyone gets any ideas, any invaders will be booted on sight - I'm one of the most active Founders in NationStates.Challenge extended. :D

Also, I remember a year ago I noticed it changed at 4:00 AM...

Well, last summer.Gotta factor in daylight savings times and the fact that the rolling update takes 2 hours.

I know the order they're updated in, but I'm not sure if I should/ am allowed to pass that information on.

Also, I remember a year ago I noticed it changed at 4:00 AM...

Well, last summer.Gotta factor in daylight savings times and the fact that the rolling update takes 2 hours.

I know the order they're updated in, but I'm not sure if I should/ am allowed to pass that information on.

Interesting. But as I did with Hell, recon is a virtue.

Also, I remember a year ago I noticed it changed at 4:00 AM...

Well, last summer.Gotta factor in daylight savings times and the fact that the rolling update takes 2 hours.

I know the order they're updated in, but I'm not sure if I should/ am allowed to pass that information on.

Interesting. But as I did with Hell, recon is a virtue.

What sucks about this region crashing business is the fact that while there is a protocol in place with regard to how this action is to be conducted, it is obviously being circumvented.

Granted that a founder has certain leeway with regard to how he runs his region, he should still be bound by the rules of the game especially on certain aspects of the game in which he actively participates (i.e. region crashing). There are rules on what one can or can't do as an invader. In fact, there are also explicit rules on how an invaded region can get one of its own natives back as region delegate. However, it seems that the region's founder can do things that are not sanctioned by the rules and regulations of NationStates with regard to region crashing.

Take for example the arbitrary banning by the invaded region's founder of invaders who have successfully and "legally" taken over said region. Personally, I would let this pass if the invaded nation was not one to participate in region crashing themselves (they're just niche in the game minding their own business) . However, a region whose native members and founder are also in the "business" of invading other regions should not be given the right to arbitrary bannings if they themselves get invaded. To allow them to do such is simply ludicrous. It is like joining a tournament and being allowed to delete one's losses just to keep a no loss record. Also, if the mods are to tolerate such arbitrary bannings, they indicate this as a choice in their rules and regulations. Leaving this little but very important piece of information out brings about certain negative feelings on the part of the game's players .

How can they justify their crashing of other regions and yet not allow themselves to be invaded. By the way, if I'm not mistaken a native can only be ejected from the region if he is causing trouble such as spamming the message board. There is no proof this in the case of HELL. Therefore, the invaders, by virtue of this issue, are guilty of griefing.

By the way, if I'm not mistaken a native can only be ejected from the region if he is causing trouble such as spamming the message board. There is no proof this in the case of HELL. Therefore, the invaders, by virtue of this issue, are guilty of griefing.

Oh, well.. he griefed me then :twisted:

Twice.. or is it three times I have been ejected from the region Hell now. Naugty invader delegate tsk tsk.

Well, first time he unbanned and let me back after about an hour.. but I couldn't get in. It was passwordprotected with a riddle. :shock: Anyway.. after some time more he dropped the password and let us back in. Some of us.

And today, ah, it is only twice, I was ejected again after asking a question. No flamebait, nothing hurtful. A truthful question. Anyway, he unbanned me directly but also passowordprotected the region. On the messageboard he explained he would imediatly issue passwords to the natives and let those unfortunatly ejected get their t-grams last. How nice.

Anyway.. after much time I got this t-gram.

The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries
Received: 2 hours ago The password to the region is "dumbpollocks" and will always be "dumbpollocks"

If you forget it, tough.

-Sythia

At this t-gram I told him he had to issue it everytime no matter what. And if I so forget the password 100 times he had to tell me. He agreed upon that.

I waited some time before entering. And recived several t-grams about my delay.

Received: 118 minutes ago Are you going to get into the region?


The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries
Received: 117 minutes ago Get in the region, Now.


I told him no after these two. I said I wanted to wait until he was offline so I wouldn't get ejected again. Is getting fed up after two times. And then I added; Why being so frantic with me getting back in now?

The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries
Received: 104 minutes ago ah, but I love you.


I told him that I didn't belive him. That I thought he only wanted me back in so he could eject me again, like he did to BaalZoria yesterday.

The Armed Republic of Spanish Legionaries
Received: 99 minutes ago I won't eject you, Promise.

Scouts honor!


So just a while ago I tried to get in. And the blasted Password doesn't work. IT DOESN'T WORK!!

He spammed up my t-box with all this junk so I would try to get in and just smash my head in a brickwall!!

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

I second this. I've also been t-grammed a password, that completely fails to work. Once more I am locked out of the region.

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

I second this. I've also been t-grammed a password, that completely fails to work. Once more I am locked out of the region.

And again, another nation has the same problem. See the pass did work, huh?

Damn, I should make that pass for all regions...

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

I second this. I've also been t-grammed a password, that completely fails to work. Once more I am locked out of the region.

I take that back, slightly, the password Asmodean quoted above indeed works, but it includes the quotes. Generally when a password is quoted it's fair to assume that the quotes are not part of the password. Or at least to mention that that is the case which wasn't done.

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

I second this. I've also been t-grammed a password, that completely fails to work. Once more I am locked out of the region.

I take that back, slightly, the password Asmodean quoted above indeed works, but it includes the quotes. Generally when a password is quoted it's fair to assume that the quotes are not part of the password. Or at least to mention that that is the case which wasn't done.

And again, I did that on purpose. I gave you the password, can't say I didn't. Now if I wasn't nice, I could have let you forever reside in The Rejected Realms, and not even the mods could have saved your ass.

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

I second this. I've also been t-grammed a password, that completely fails to work. Once more I am locked out of the region.

I take that back, slightly, the password Asmodean quoted above indeed works, but it includes the quotes. Generally when a password is quoted it's fair to assume that the quotes are not part of the password. Or at least to mention that that is the case which wasn't done.

And again, I did that on purpose. I gave you the password, can't say I didn't. Now if I wasn't nice, I could have let you forever reside in The Rejected Realms, and not even the mods could have saved your ass.

Puhlease, as I'm a native, you're obligated to send me the password, if you fail to you're in violation of the rules.

Sending the password and deliberately obfuscating it is just silly.

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

I second this. I've also been t-grammed a password, that completely fails to work. Once more I am locked out of the region.

I take that back, slightly, the password Asmodean quoted above indeed works, but it includes the quotes. Generally when a password is quoted it's fair to assume that the quotes are not part of the password. Or at least to mention that that is the case which wasn't done.

And again, I did that on purpose. I gave you the password, can't say I didn't. Now if I wasn't nice, I could have let you forever reside in The Rejected Realms, and not even the mods could have saved your ass.

Puhlease, as I'm a native, you're obligated to send me the password, if you fail to you're in violation of the rules.

Sending the password and deliberately obfuscating it is just silly.

What are you talking about, I sent you the password. Not my fault you couldn't get in.

No, no t-gram is missing. I haven't gotten any other password. If he changed the password afterwards its his fault. I have told him that the password doesn't work and he hasn't given any answer yet. That is about 20-30 minuts ago. Yes, he can be offline. But I highly doubt it.

I second this. I've also been t-grammed a password, that completely fails to work. Once more I am locked out of the region.

I take that back, slightly, the password Asmodean quoted above indeed works, but it includes the quotes. Generally when a password is quoted it's fair to assume that the quotes are not part of the password. Or at least to mention that that is the case which wasn't done.

And again, I did that on purpose. I gave you the password, can't say I didn't. Now if I wasn't nice, I could have let you forever reside in The Rejected Realms, and not even the mods could have saved your ass.

Actually, they would have saved his ass and fried yours.

Frankly, and this is just my US$0.02, since I'm not the mod on this case...

Given all the trouble we've had with Sythia's various incarnations, I'm trying to figure out why we don't presently have an IP ban or at LEAST a DEAT-on-sight order on Sythia, with this latest escapade in trying to push the limits to their absolute farthest.

Let me put the rule about TGing the password and all into the simplest, plainest terms:

Invaders must NOT interfere with the natives' ability to come and go as they please.

Invader kicks somebody? Invader has to unban them promptly. Invader passwords the region? Invader had damn well better tell EVERY single native ASAP what that password is- and make sure it's CLEAR. No riddles, no deliberately making things difficult. Password has ""s on it? You make sure that fact is clear. The region has a metric buttload of people in it? Tough luck, you've got to let EVERY SINGLE ONE know.

You don't want to have to be up at some godawful time of the morning to stand guard during the system update? TOUGH. If you don't want to make the sacrifice, don't play at invasions.

But as I said, that's just my $0.02. I may not be overly fond of the region Hell thanks to the antics of a couple of that region's more infamous players (Sheol and Satan, to be specific), but I'll be damned if these people are going to be harassed and griefed by some invader who thinks they're being cute with quaint little riddles and the like... ESPECIALLY when said invader has an extensive history with the mods. You can bet there's going to be some discussion over in Forum 7.

~Evil Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod

Frankly, and this is just my US$0.02, since I'm not the mod on this case...

Given all the trouble we've had with Sythia's various incarnations, I'm trying to figure out why we don't presently have an IP ban or at LEAST a DEAT-on-sight order on Sythia, with this latest escapade in trying to push the limits to their absolute farthest.

Let me put the rule about TGing the password and all into the simplest, plainest terms:

Invaders must NOT interfere with the natives' ability to come and go as they please.

Invader kicks somebody? Invader has to unban them promptly. Invader passwords the region? Invader had damn well better tell EVERY single native ASAP what that password is- and make sure it's CLEAR. No riddles, no deliberately making things difficult. Password has ""s on it? You make sure that fact is clear. The region has a metric buttload of people in it? Tough luck, you've got to let EVERY SINGLE ONE know.

You don't want to have to be up at some godawful time of the morning to stand guard during the system update? TOUGH. If you don't want to make the sacrifice, don't play at invasions.

But as I said, that's just my $0.02. I may not be overly fond of the region Hell thanks to the antics of a couple of that region's more infamous players (Sheol and Satan, to be specific), but I'll be damned if these people are going to be harassed and griefed by some invader who thinks they're being cute with quaint little riddles and the like... ESPECIALLY when said invader has an extensive history with the mods. You can bet there's going to be some discussion over in Forum 7.

~Evil Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod

Aw reploid, I love ya. Why must we argue?

Reploid, let me on Forum 7. And tell me before hand, I wanna get the popcorn out.

*sigh*...

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127495

This is exactly what the ADN did to United States and nothing was done to them.

This is exactly what the ADN did to United States and nothing was done to them.

Similar harmful effects may have occurred, but the ADN did not specifically say that they were trying to destroy United States. In fact, even those who opposed them said the action was well-intentioned but flawed.

This, on the other hand...

Indeed...the seven defender groups involved (including the ADN) were invited and kept everything legal in US. And the accusation is not exactly on topic.

On another note, I'm sure that many defender groups would be willing to (in the very least) keep the invaders of Hell awake past update time should the natives request assistance. ;)

This is exactly what the ADN did to United States and nothing was done to them.

Similar harmful effects may have occurred, but the ADN did not specifically say that they were trying to destroy United States. In fact, even those who opposed them said the action was well-intentioned but flawed.

This, on the other hand...

What, what? I'm doing it legally. No one wants to join, I encourage natives to find better regions to reside, and the inactivity will destroy hell anyways, even if I didn't invade hell.

This is exactly what the ADN did to United States and nothing was done to them.

Similar harmful effects may have occurred, but the ADN did not specifically say that they were trying to destroy United States. In fact, even those who opposed them said the action was well-intentioned but flawed.

This, on the other hand...

No, they lied and said they were trying to protect the natives, but they still booted them, gave out false passwords and such.

I can't stand cheaters, whatever form they take.

No, they lied and said they were trying to protect the natives, but they still booted them, gave out false passwords and such.

I can't stand cheaters, whatever form they take.

*Sigh*

This is pure propagandic dishonesty, and I request that you respect the topic at hand--Hell. Bump the US thread if you would like to discuss your opinions on US further. Btw, there you'll see several Mod rulings from several different Mods which state that the defense (technical def. invasion) of US was legal.

That has yet to be stated about Hell.

What, what? I'm doing it legally. No one wants to join, I encourage natives to find better regions to reside, and the inactivity will destroy hell anyways, even if I didn't invade hell.

I believe Kandarin was referring to a key difference between the event Nothingg brought up and your invasion of Hell. You've stated in numerous threads now that you wish to destroy the region, you will punish the natives for their defiance, etc.

Okay, stop now.

Do not discuss issues in The United States in this thread. Stay on topic.

Sythia, booting a native out and unbanning them a day later is GRIEFING. Do you understand that?

Quit screwing around and play right. Now.

Side Note For People Who Complain About Vapor Law: On the last page, his nonsense about the quotation marks. That is what I was referring to when I said people will find loopholes in brick walls.

I am sorry to bring forth this thread again after so much time :twisted:

But a native has been banne, namely Vinnegeal and not unbanned. Very sadly. And this nation has long served Hell. I wish that this could be solved in some manner.

I am sorry to bring forth this thread again after so much time :twisted:

But a native has been banne, namely Vinnegeal and not unbanned. Very sadly. And this nation has long served Hell. I wish that this could be solved in some manner.

No, that nation jumped into the region at aroun 4:00 AM on two days ago. Jim and 5 others that jumped into the region were ejected and banned...

I am sorry to bring forth this thread again after so much time :twisted:

But a native has been banne, namely Vinnegeal and not unbanned. Very sadly. And this nation has long served Hell. I wish that this could be solved in some manner.

No, that nation jumped into the region at aroun 4:00 AM on two days ago. Jim and 5 others that jumped into the region were ejected and banned...

heaven was also invaded...

I am sorry to bring forth this thread again after so much time :twisted:

But a native has been banne, namely Vinnegeal and not unbanned. Very sadly. And this nation has long served Hell. I wish that this could be solved in some manner.

No, that nation jumped into the region at aroun 4:00 AM on two days ago. Jim and 5 others that jumped into the region were ejected and banned...

heaven was also invaded...


There is already a thread on this

I am sorry to bring forth this thread again after so much time :twisted:

But a native has been banne, namely Vinnegeal and not unbanned. Very sadly. And this nation has long served Hell. I wish that this could be solved in some manner.

No, that nation jumped into the region at aroun 4:00 AM on two days ago. Jim and 5 others that jumped into the region were ejected and banned...

heaven was also invaded...


There is already a thread on this

Where?

I am sorry to bring forth this thread again after so much time :twisted:

But a native has been banne, namely Vinnegeal and not unbanned. Very sadly. And this nation has long served Hell. I wish that this could be solved in some manner.

No, that nation jumped into the region at aroun 4:00 AM on two days ago. Jim and 5 others that jumped into the region were ejected and banned...

heaven was also invaded...


There is already a thread on this

Where?

Don't think it would do you any good, Spanish, you seem to have come down with a case of the Deleted Nation.

I am sorry to bring forth this thread again after so much time :twisted:

But a native has been banne, namely Vinnegeal and not unbanned. Very sadly. And this nation has long served Hell. I wish that this could be solved in some manner.

No, that nation jumped into the region at aroun 4:00 AM on two days ago. Jim and 5 others that jumped into the region were ejected and banned...

I've been in the region of Hell for almost a year and Vinnegeal was a native of hell.

Well, it appears that the invader is Deated, and well deserved, so it should not be a problem for him/her to come back in.

Yes, and with that a new Delegate.