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How can I find out why nations were deleted?

RogueScholar
26-02-2004, 22:02
My ONLY UN nation, my girlfriends, her sisters, my friends, and another members. All gone. And No email or anything saying why. They were not inactive at all. Is there anyway I can find out why? I can only think of one nation that might possibly have deserved it, but that was a very slight reason anyway.

I sent a getting help request, as a response to moderator, but I figure they won't read that anyway.

any mods care to help me out? I'm a law abiding citizen just like anyone else, and now I have 5 members all asking me why they were deleted. :(
RogueScholar
26-02-2004, 22:03
The Nations are:

Doobion
Boobian
Cock Fiends
New Diicksia
3ft_fishshapeddildo
Great Mighty Poo

Please explain, I am clueless.
RogueScholar
26-02-2004, 23:42
BUMP???

Please?
Qaaolchoura
26-02-2004, 23:58
I can make a few educated guesses as a player who has seen many past mod rulings.

The mods have lives unfortunately, and several of the more active mods hate pointing out the obvious as they have said repeatedly.
1.
Doobion
Boobian
Cock Fiends
New Diicksia
3ft_fishshapeddildo
Great Mighty Poo
2. They had offensive mottos, flags, currency, and/or animals?
3. They were all UN nations operated from the same computer?
RogueScholar
27-02-2004, 00:30
ic. Thats silly tho. Who was offended by doobion?

Whatever tho. Mods will be mods. If they are so busy why don't they just recruit a bunch more? instead of having 5 or whatever have 30-100 depending on necessity.

That would be smart.
Karmabaijan
27-02-2004, 00:49
It would also be smart to read the Terms of Service before creating a nation.
Qaaolchoura
27-02-2004, 00:59
ic. Thats silly tho. Who was offended by doobion?

Whatever tho. Mods will be mods. If they are so busy why don't they just recruit a bunch more? instead of having 5 or whatever have 30-100 depending on necessity.

That would be smart.
Is there any meaning of "Doob" that I don't know?
And did it meet criterion 2 or 3?

Umm. . .

Because they already get things done and will be able to get things done better when NS moves to a working server, because they'e probably used up almost all of the good mod material all ready, and most importantly, to quote Enodia "This would create a situation of 'too many chiefs and not enough Indians'"

Sirocco echoed similar sentiments ("We probably have too many mods already") when I suggested to him that they make Myrth a mod.
Qaaolchoura
27-02-2004, 01:09
It would also be smart to read the Terms of Service before creating a nation.

And the FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/pages/faq.html).


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Cogitation
27-02-2004, 02:09
For the record, I am the Moderator who handled this case.

The Nations are:

Doobion
Boobian
Cock Fiends
New Diicksia
3ft_fishshapeddildo
Great Mighty Poo

Please explain, I am clueless.

The last four were deleted for having offensive national names.

"Doobion" and "Boobian" were each deleted for multiple offenses.

"Boobian": UN multi with "Doobion" and offensive currency ("boob") and offensive flag (a pair of yellow circles, a red circle inside each yellow circle, all on a blue background).

"Dobion": UN multi with "Boobian" and harassing "Ethanasia".

Lands of the Creeping Death Civil Headquarters

Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.
Lodged From Message

3 days ago
The Grand Glorious Evil Dominion of Ethanasia
Realality ALERT:

The 2 new comers are here to screw with our region.

The Sperm Shooters sent me this message that they got from Doobion:

"Fun is fun but these guys are screwing with your nation:

Here is a telegram from Doobion


The Community of Doobion
Received: 2 hours ago Hey man. We just moved into Creeping Death. Endorsed each other and just waiting for the delegacy. :)

We're gonna show them who's boss. lol. Once we have the spot we will password protect it, then you can come in and spam your sperm like crazy! lol

:-D


---

I'd report this to the admin!

SS"


I have informed the admins... you guys are not welcomed.

Please leave.

3 days ago
Doobion
bah, its part of the game. lol. I was just having my fun just like you have yours by chasing people around and spamming everyones board with nothing, even a recruit message is better then you showing your insanity. lol

Oh well tho. No problem at all. We have done nothing wrong. Heh. Have Fun.

3 days ago
Doobion
We were just setting up to give you a healthy dose of sperm. I don't see why sperm turned on us and somehow makes us look like a$$holes. HAHAHA.

3 days ago
The Commonwealth of Lesbian Women
hey i am here!! brought my entire lesbian womens commonwealth with me too!!

so um... where are the forums i need to log into?

2 days ago
The Kingdom of Greater Gunland Army
Have fun in your new region schmooboys.

2 days ago
Doobion
great!! However this isn't our region! :) This is just a region we took over for fun, but turns out the guy we did it for didn't want to do it. So Les. Roshambo is our home. Although it was nice to see you stop by here and show support :)


BTW guys, did I mention that was was only supposed to be temporary? We were coming in here to allow spermshooters to spam on Ethans board, while he was out chasing him around and spamming everyone elses boards. hehe. What a good plan. Too bad theres noone to shoot their sperm all over the place anymore. loL

2 days ago
Doobion
oH yea.... and....

LET EVIL FLOURISH!!!

2 days ago
The Commonwealth of The Living and Dead
Prime Minister Bub would like to make the Following Announcement: What the hell is going on? I go away for four days and all hell is breaking loose. We shale and always will support the Original Colonies in the Lands of the Creeping Death. The Army of the Undead cannot be stopped!

2 days ago
Doobion
hehe. good. I didn't want you guys to leave or anything lol.

The whole purpose was just to let a guy come in here and sperm Ethan right in his face. Nothing bad or illegal about that. I just thought that ethan could use a little nut in the eye, thats all.

Then people start freaking out, lol. Oh well.

5 hours ago
NationStates Moderators
On the contrary, Doobion, there is something bad and illegal about it: It's harassment. ...and you are hereby warned. Do it again, and your nation will be deleted.

Note that I issued that post shortly before I discovered that "Doobion" and "Boobian" were UN multies. That's a second offense, that's deletable.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator
RogueScholar
27-02-2004, 16:51
heh. Well thats silly. I did NOT harass ethan. Look at those posts again. There was nothing in there harrassing. He came to my region asd posted stupid stuff. Saying that he was going to kill sperm shooters. So I decided to have some fun with him, by taking his region. NEVER did I say $%#@ you a$$ holes i'm gonna kill you , or any BS like that. I just said that I was going to teach him a lesson. Theres a lot of worse stuff out there then what I've done.

Secondly. My region was taken over by Turnip Hunni. He was supposedly a member, but when we left he somehow ended up with the delegacy. So I go back to roshambo and He has passworded it, So I can't get in. Even tho I am not technically the founder, I am the leader. I only logged in as her, to make sure that he wouldn't have the delegacy after the update.

That is my girlfriend not my multi. I happen to know her password that she uses for some of her online stuff. So what? And now I harrassed someone and got deleted for protecting my own region. Not saying using her nation is right, but please.

As for harrassment. What was harrassing? I think you guys are looking to hard to see the troublemakers. I didn't do anything, except log into my girlfriends account to protect my region. Come ON.

BTW if you think the harrassment was the sperm comments, your wrong. That was for fun. Considering there was a person named Spermshooters involved.

And Who is offended by a pair of breasts on a flag?

Who Cares? All these people who crash with hordes of multies and grief like crazy, and I get deleted for crap. Hahaha.
HC Eredivisie
27-02-2004, 20:40
And Who is offended by a pair of breasts on a flag?

It's free speech, so I can post whatever I like here, right?
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HC Eredivisie
27-02-2004, 20:50
Note: my previous was not counted by the server and thus did not 'bump' this topic. When I ment to post it, it said "Post mode not specified", maybe something for Sal to look at?
RogueScholar
27-02-2004, 21:04
Forget it. Lock the Topic.
Cogitation
27-02-2004, 21:22
heh. Well thats silly. I did NOT harass ethan. Look at those posts again. There was nothing in there harrassing. He came to my region asd posted stupid stuff. Saying that he was going to kill sperm shooters. So I decided to have some fun with him, by taking his region. NEVER did I say $%#@ you a$$ holes i'm gonna kill you , or any BS like that. I just said that I was going to teach him a lesson. Theres a lot of worse stuff out there then what I've done.

Talking about how someone could use a "little nut in the eye" isn't harassing?

If someone were forced, in real-life, to be subject to such treatment, it would be degrading and humiliating. Similarly, pretending such actions here on NationStates is humiliating and degrading. It qualifies as both harassment and obscenity.

If he bothered you, first, then you should have reported it. Retaliation in this manner is immature and unacceptable.

Secondly. My region was taken over by Turnip Hunni. He was supposedly a member, but when we left he somehow ended up with the delegacy. So I go back to roshambo and He has passworded it, So I can't get in. Even tho I am not technically the founder, I am the leader. I only logged in as her, to make sure that he wouldn't have the delegacy after the update.

"Fistington" is the Founder. Although our records show suspicious activity, there wasn't enough evidence to rule "Fistington" a UN multi.

"Boobian" was not the Founder. I'm not sure what you thought you were accomplishing by logging into a nation other than the Founder.

That is my girlfriend not my multi. I happen to know her password that she uses for some of her online stuff. So what? And now I harrassed someone and got deleted for protecting my own region. Not saying using her nation is right, but please.

"Protecting [your] own region..." how?

As for harrassment. What was harrassing? I think you guys are looking to hard to see the troublemakers. I didn't do anything, except log into my girlfriends account to protect my region. Come ON.

BTW if you think the harrassment was the sperm comments, your wrong. That was for fun.

Incorrect. That was harassment. See above.

Considering there was a person named Spermshooters involved.

That reminds me, I forgot to modbomb that one.

/me modbombs "Sperm Shooters".

And Who is offended by a pair of breasts on a flag?

National flags are held to higher standards than images in forum posts because forum posts can be challenged and debated. There is no means to debate a flag (except by telegram, which doesn't allow public debate, and by regional Civil Headquarters board posts, which are volatile and get bumped off).

Who Cares? All these people who crash with hordes of multies and grief like crazy, and I get deleted for crap. Hahaha.

I also spend quite a bit of time deleting griefers. I do it on an almost daily basis. So, these hordes are not getting away with anything more than you are (and considering how many multies/griefers I, personally, have deleted, I do not hesitate to agree completely with your use of the word "hordes"). More to the point, they're not getting away at all. So, my actions against you cannot be dismissed on the grounds that I have bigger fish to fry.

Are there any more questions or objections?

"Think about it for a moment."


Forget it. Lock the Topic.

Done. iLock.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator