NationStates Jolt Archive

I'm not sure what your general guidelines are for removing UN proposals, but while looking through the queue I noticed one that makes a reference to the United States in its preambulatory clauses.

Perhaps that is fine, but I'm of the impression that NationStates doesn't have a United States, or a Nazi Germany, or a Canada, or whatever you like. It seems to me that allowing proposals that are justified in real world specific issues sends a mixed message to delegates.

So with that in mind, my first question is what is the policy in the UN and moderation regarding the "history" of NationStates? Is there a United States of America?

Second (a totally unrelated question BTW): how do the UN mods feel about allowing two consenting nations to suggest actual proposals that would say ... levy UN economic sanctions against a UN member should they claim that they did something against the spirit of the UN.

I was informed by another player (and I appreciated the advise) that it is fine to Roleplay, but that actual proposals had to avoid taking specific actions against UN member states. With this in mind, I've also seen proposals with blatant pork ... there was one recently that would fork over a certain tax to the authoring nation. Naturally nobody was endorsing the proposal. So if we can not levy sancations against nations for basically not following the intent of UN resolutions, is the opposite true? Can we reward nations? Though symbolic, I think both situations would maybe encourage a more dynamic roleplaying. But at the same time, I would think that the mods would have to hawk out proposals and get approves from both parties that they are using the UN to take roleplaying to what I see is its logical conclusion / next step.

Thanks,
-Michael

On your first question: Proposals may not deal with real life. I'm not sure what Enodia would do with a proposal that made a passing reference to something in real-life (such as "For example, in Sweden they have a system where.... Let us adopt such a system."), but I would let it slide.

Proposals that directly involve real-life are not allowed. ("Impose economic sanctions on Sweden")

On your second question: You may not submit proposals where action is to be taken against specific nations. Remember that UN proposals have to affect all UN member nations and only UN member nations.

Any bad proposals should be reported to the Getting Help (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) page.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Any all bad proposals will fall beneath my scything blade of scythiness very shortly. I would've done a sweep today already, but a combination of outlandish heat and a presentation to prepare for my brother's debating team got in the way.

On your second question: You may not submit proposals where action is to be taken against specific nations. Remember that UN proposals have to affect all UN member nations and only UN member nations.


Thanks, this was very helpful.

On the second point, it sounds like it is impossible for the NationStates UN to create resolutions that would endorse, a polite word for mandate with the current rules, economic sanctions against any nation, though in the real world UN, resolutions were / are constantly passed to place warnings and / or sanctions on nations like South Africa or Israel. While I'm aware that we have our own UN with different rules, I just wanted to test out first if this sort of thing were possible if the nation that would be the target of this agreed (not the nation of course, but the player).

I bring it up only because I think it could bring an element of fun to the UN ... at the same time, this kind of practice would have to be carefully moderated as well.

Thanks again,
-Michael

Thanks, this was very helpful.

On the second point, it sounds like it is impossible for the NationStates UN to create resolutions that would endorse, a polite word for mandate with the current rules, economic sanctions against any nation, though in the real world UN, resolutions were / are constantly passed to place warnings and / or sanctions on nations like South Africa or Israel. While I'm aware that we have our own UN with different rules, I just wanted to test out first if this sort of thing were possible if the nation that would be the target of this agreed (not the nation of course, but the player).

I bring it up only because I think it could bring an element of fun to the UN ... at the same time, this kind of practice would have to be carefully moderated as well.

Thanks again,
-Michael

I'm pretty sure we will not be doing this for NationStates 1. You could check the "NationStates 2" board to see if this idea has been posted.

--The Modified Democriatc States of Cogitation