NationStates Jolt Archive


Mistaken moderation -- One of my nations has been deleted!

18-02-2004, 22:06
And by deleted, I mean deleted without cause.

Approximately six months or so ago, I and several friends executed a legitimate invasion of a region, namely, "The Moon". By legitimate, I mean that we followed all guidelines -- Moderators were watching us, and decided not to bother us after one advisory warning, which we indeed followed (regarding giving the password to the natives). We were very tactful and showed absolutely no hostility to any of the natives, and even offered to leave if they so asked us to, but they did not. The region was fully under our control and stayed that way for many months. No natives were ejected -- All natives except for one ceased to exist simply due to age. Just a couple of nights ago, however, I logged on and decided to eject one of the nations from the region. The nation was Zardia, and was -NOT- a native. Zardia had arrived after we had as someone who moved in at about the same time as the invasion. However, by mistake, I accidentally ejected the only remaining native, Railgun Colony. Seeking to immediately rectify the situation, I unbanned the native, then proceeded to eject Zardia. Realizing that someone might mistake them to be a native, however, I unbanned that nation as well. Regardless, our full intentions were to depart the moon that night and move on to another region, leaving only the original native to live in that region. We were done there.
Little did I and my friend (the other nation that got banned) know that we would be banned the following day, fully without cause.

Please, rectify this situation if you would -- We're a few of the very rare invaders that actually do it right and fair. We didn't violate any rules at all, if I'm not mistaken, and if we did, I'd like to know just what they were. Our nations were "Space Colony ARK" and "Mietnam".

Thanks for your time,
-Matt
Tuesday Heights
18-02-2004, 22:38
However, by mistake, I accidentally ejected the only remaining native, Railgun Colony.

There's no proof that you accidentally ejected this nation. You may be giving your word, but so do a lot of UN members who happen to be multis. There's no way to prove, I do believe, whether or not this a true statement or not.

NOTE: Not a mod, just observing the situation.
Cogitation
18-02-2004, 23:03
For the record, I am the Moderator who handled this case.

Having read your post, I will reconsider your case. However, I make no guarantees of leniency as you did completely empty the region.

To all players: Any player who believes that he or she has accidentally broken NationStates rules should file a Getting Help report about themselves immediately. Claims of accidental rulebreaking by players with no past history of rulebreaking will be given consideration if said players report themselves promptly. However, that won't stop us from modbombing you, anyway, if we think that you're trying to pull a "fast one" on us. Completely emptying a region of 5+ nations (not the case here) is in no way accidental. Claims of accidental rulebreaking are far less likely to be considered if the claim is made after a Moderator has taken notice and taken action.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
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Ballotonia
18-02-2004, 23:42
Regional Happenings of the ejections:

6 minutes ago: The Research Station of Space Colony ARK departed this region for South Island
7 minutes ago: The Shiny Toaster Land of Mietnam departed this region for South Island
7 minutes ago: The Research Station of Space Colony ARK removed The Antarctic Colony of Railgun Colony from the regional ban list.
7 minutes ago: The Antarctic Colony of Railgun Colony departed this region for The Rejected Realms
7 minutes ago: The Research Station of Space Colony ARK ejected The Antarctic Colony of Railgun Colony from the region.
88 minutes ago: The Research Station of Space Colony ARK removed The Grand Duchy of Zardia from the regional ban list.
88 minutes ago: The Grand Duchy of Zardia departed this region for The Rejected Realms
88 minutes ago: The Research Station of Space Colony ARK ejected The Grand Duchy of Zardia from the region.
6 days ago: The Armed Republic of Evil Midgard ceased to exist.
15 days ago: The Federation of Osea ceased to exist.

As you can see, your story does not match the events as I witnessed them.

You first ejected Zardia, and immediately removed it from the banlist. About 81 minutes later you kicked Railgun Colony and left.

The XML for January 16, 2003:
<NATIONS>picklehead:railgun_colony:space_colony_ark:zardia:osea:
mietnam:evil_midgard</NATIONS>
This shows that Zardia's last arrival time was indeed after yours, that much is true.
(note: both Osea and Evil Midgard have ceased to exist some time ago)

Earlier on in the invasion, you gave a list of natives you sent the password to. Both Zardia and Osea were listed there as natives.

One more note: I offered my help to Railgun Colony about a month ago, and was given the password "553N733L", which was wrong. I'm not sure who's mistake that was.

Ballotonia
Attitude 910
19-02-2004, 02:50
As you can see, your story does not match the events as I witnessed them.

You first ejected Zardia, and immediately removed it from the banlist. About 81 minutes later you kicked Railgun Colony and left.


Whoops :!: someone got caught with his pants down. :lol:
Cogitation
19-02-2004, 06:54
/me goes to double-check official records; confirms what Ballo says.

Nice catch, Ballotonia. :D

Space Colony ARK/Death Egg: Your request is denied.

This discussion is closed. iLock.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation