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18-01-2004, 23:15
My nation named Saul 2 Paul was deleted by Stephistan. The reason she gave was flamebaiting. She quote one of my post when doing this. The post was an apology to the nation named Dakini. The apology came about due to comments made on a different thread.

The thread that shows the apology is:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115967&start=60

The thread that shows the comments that brought about the apology is:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116232&start=0

I fail to see where any flamebaiting occurred.

I was convinced that I had done a wrong towards the nation of Dakini, by the people on the second thread and I made an apology for my actions. Please review this and if possible restore my nation for me. Thank you.
19-01-2004, 03:59
Please just check the threads, that is all I ask.
Neutered Sputniks
19-01-2004, 07:10
Given the other threads/posts linked to this issue and your past, I'd have to say that your apology could be construed as a sly attempt at flamebait.
SuperHappyFun
19-01-2004, 07:20
I was convinced that I had done a wrong towards the nation of Dakini, by the people on the second thread and I made an apology for my actions.

I don't believe for a second that you were "convinced" by anyone that you had wronged Dakini. If you are trying to tell us otherwise, explain exactly what you believe that you did to Dakini. If you can't give us a coherent explanation, then I'd say that the "sly attempt at flamebait" characterization is accurate. You're not the type who would just believe that you must have wronged someone with no explanation.

P.S. I might be willing to defend you against arguments in favor of your deletion, but if you're not going to be honest about your actions, there's no point.
20-01-2004, 05:15
I was convinced that I had done a wrong towards the nation of Dakini, by the people on the second thread and I made an apology for my actions.

I don't believe for a second that you were "convinced" by anyone that you had wronged Dakini. If you are trying to tell us otherwise, explain exactly what you believe that you did to Dakini. If you can't give us a coherent explanation, then I'd say that the "sly attempt at flamebait" characterization is accurate. You're not the type who would just believe that you must have wronged someone with no explanation.

P.S. I might be willing to defend you against arguments in favor of your deletion, but if you're not going to be honest about your actions, there's no point.The wrong I committed against Dakini should be obvious if the other thread is read. I wrongly reported her to the moderators. That is all there is to it. Don't worry about defending me on the deletion. I don't want to see anyone else leave the game.
20-01-2004, 05:19
Given the other threads/posts linked to this issue and your past, I'd have to say that your apology could be construed as a sly attempt at flamebait.You say that it could be construed that way but, given that I have been keeping myself in check since the last time we talked, do you really think it was a flamebait?
Neutered Sputniks
20-01-2004, 06:00
Being as I havent seen all that much of a change, and this is almost exactly what you were doing before....nope.
20-01-2004, 06:15
Being as I havent seen all that much of a change, and this is almost exactly what you were doing before....nope.Thank you for saving my time.
SuperHappyFun
20-01-2004, 06:34
I was convinced that I had done a wrong towards the nation of Dakini, by the people on the second thread and I made an apology for my actions.

I don't believe for a second that you were "convinced" by anyone that you had wronged Dakini. If you are trying to tell us otherwise, explain exactly what you believe that you did to Dakini. If you can't give us a coherent explanation, then I'd say that the "sly attempt at flamebait" characterization is accurate. You're not the type who would just believe that you must have wronged someone with no explanation.

P.S. I might be willing to defend you against arguments in favor of your deletion, but if you're not going to be honest about your actions, there's no point.The wrong I committed against Dakini should be obvious if the other thread is read. I wrongly reported her to the moderators. That is all there is to it. Don't worry about defending me on the deletion. I don't want to see anyone else leave the game.

Saul, who do you think you're fooling? Here is the text of your apology, again:

Let this serve as my personal apology to the nation known as "Dakini". I obviously, must have done something, in order to cause her to make the accusations of child abuse against me. The Game Moderator, Stephistan, has ruled that my complaint was without merit. Dakini was acting in a most appropriate way.

So Dakini, I am sorry for causing you any problems and it will not happen again.

Part of your apology might be for reporting Dakini to the mods. But you're also apologizing for doing "something . . . to cause her to make the accusations of child abuse against me." That is the sarcastic flamebait that the mods find objectionable.