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Can the mods help or are we out of luck?

Garrison II
14-01-2004, 21:36
Can a mod help me please, by lifting the password to the United States, only the French invaders know it because the Del. was stupid enough to give it to them, now they've invaded and no one can do anything? Are we just plain out of luck?
Calembel
14-01-2004, 22:10
Aren't they required to give you the password?
Unfree People
14-01-2004, 22:36
Garrison: if I understand the situation, you are indeed SOL. Everything is legal, the French are just playing the game. You'll have to ask the delegate for it, all you can do.

Calembel: that's only in the case of an invader delegate password protecting the region. The current UN delegate is not an invader.
Garrison II
14-01-2004, 22:56
Yes but the delegate hasn't been here for a long longtime... and is in league with the French.
Garrison II
14-01-2004, 22:56
Yes but the delegate hasn't been here for a long longtime... and is in league with the French.
Myrth
14-01-2004, 23:06
The invasion is still legal.
Unfree People
14-01-2004, 23:29
Yeah, but there's no justification for moderator intervention here.
Calembel
15-01-2004, 00:58
So the delegate is a native, but is supported by invaders? I think Neut said in that case he's still considered an invader. If these French are natives, though, you're out of luck.
Garrison II
15-01-2004, 02:42
Yes bacisly he was working with the French and now is being proped up by the french, who are not natives but have the password!
Goobergunchia
15-01-2004, 02:54
Region: United States
Delegate: Benjamin Franklin
Endorsements Received: 10 (-Iowa-, Kansas City Kitty, Teddy Roosevelt, Kevin Wood, The Way Side, The Thomas Jefferson, Dolesville, Architeuthis, Nothingg, Democratic Colonies)
New People
16-01-2004, 05:19
A delegate can't be illegitimized because invaders are endorsing him. That can only happen if he is only delegate because of invader support. As far as I know Ben would still be delegate without invader support.
Snotzi
16-01-2004, 06:02
Actually, before too misinformation gets out, all of the natives who were given the password. Anyone claming to be a native who does not have the password, was not actually a native. The mods have already been alerted that some nations were claiming to be native, though they were not (which really should be against the rules, but crying native is not unfortunately).

So, the invasion is legal.
1 Infinite Loop
16-01-2004, 06:25
Garrison, youare not even in the US, sounds to me like you dont like how the Native Delegate is handling things and your Little Invader group wants to grief the region, so you are making up stuff to try to get in.

Ben is Native, the French are not taking over, and are not even trying to take over, ergo Ben is not a Invader, Actually I wouldnt be surprised if they are trying to keep your folks from booting him out of the job. as you appear to be trying to invade the region.

the Mods dont cheat for the betterment of anyone, so quit trying to get them to cheat.
Ackbar
16-01-2004, 14:10
You are already discussing this issue here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113011

While I would never wish to stifle your liberty to discuss greivances, I can telly ou nw that mods do not always take kindly opening multiple threads in order to get sway.

Also, what you wrote above is not fully correct, as has already been pointed out in this thread. Also, any cross-posts by puppets is not for bad reasons, is merely to avoid missing new posts...
Garrison II
16-01-2004, 15:53
Garrison, youare not even in the US, sounds to me like you dont like how the Native Delegate is handling things and your Little Invader group wants to grief the region, so you are making up stuff to try to get in.

Ben is Native, the French are not taking over, and are not even trying to take over, ergo Ben is not a Invader, Actually I wouldnt be surprised if they are trying to keep your folks from booting him out of the job. as you appear to be trying to invade the region.

the Mods dont cheat for the betterment of anyone, so quit trying to get them to cheat.

How is putting their spam on the regional boards not purposely trying to annoy the natives. Doesn't anyone remember their first invasion of the U.S, or Mars which was one of my regions. Doesn't anyone remember how they attacked the region of America, somehow got foundership even though they didn't found it, then all the former nations of America moved to the U.S who were attacked again, then I had to liberate them, then they attacked Mars, Bajons region and filled the boards with spam about ping pong balls, banned some natives permantely and others they kicked then unbanned.
Garrison II
16-01-2004, 15:56
Garrison, youare not even in the US, sounds to me like you dont like how the Native Delegate is handling things and your Little Invader group wants to grief the region, so you are making up stuff to try to get in.

Ben is Native, the French are not taking over, and are not even trying to take over, ergo Ben is not a Invader, Actually I wouldnt be surprised if they are trying to keep your folks from booting him out of the job. as you appear to be trying to invade the region.

the Mods dont cheat for the betterment of anyone, so quit trying to get them to cheat.
Doesn't anyone remember the first French invasion or have your forgotten. Just ask Bajon or CS and all the other nations who help liberate it.
Ballotonia
16-01-2004, 16:44
Doesn't anyone remember the first French invasion or have your forgotten. Just ask Bajon or CS and all the other nations who help liberate it.

I remember Mars, looked pretty ugly and took a long, long time. I also remember that Neut looked into that situation at some point (early on in the invasion) and declared it legal.

Ballotonia
Ackbar
17-01-2004, 07:54
Doesn't anyone remember the first French invasion or have your forgotten. Just ask Bajon or CS and all the other nations who help liberate it.

I remember Mars, looked pretty ugly and took a long, long time. I also remember that Neut looked into that situation at some point (early on in the invasion) and declared it legal.

Ballotonia

Exactly, this is more a GAMEPLAY thread then a MODERATION thread. The invasion was, and continues to be, completely legal.
Garrison II
17-01-2004, 13:33
I don't mind the invasion, but I do mind the spam or "rp" as they call it. Because that usually kills a region while most regions last through an invasion.
imported_Trekkers
17-01-2004, 23:46
All there posting is a bunch of SPam...we need help...badly.
New People
18-01-2004, 01:12
United States is livelier than I've ever seen it. I don't understand how they're killing the region that way. I've been on and through some invasions where no one in the region said anything, and that's how the region died.
imported_Trekkers
18-01-2004, 02:45
Look...this how they do it, they SPAM anti-American stuff on there and we fight back. Ive been threw invasions to: America, United States(X2), 00 World Ruler Region 00, West Alerica, The Mountains, The Caribbean. Look @ those regions, most are not dead and we will keep United States alive for as long as we can...we just need that pword!
The Most Glorious Hack
18-01-2004, 03:47
we just need that pword!

The natives should all have the password... :?
Juxtapositions
18-01-2004, 04:39
we just need that pword!

The natives should all have the password... :?

Only true when there has been an invasion. The natives elected the Native nation Ben Franklin to the delegate seat. Exactly like the Pacific. The natives elected someone and then changed their mind when they don't like the way he plays the game.
New People
18-01-2004, 05:38
Some of the nations, rather.

Look...this how they do it, they SPAM anti-American stuff on there and we fight back. Ive been threw invasions to: America, United States(X2), 00 World Ruler Region 00, West Alerica, The Mountains, The Caribbean. Look @ those regions, most are not dead and

That contradicts what you (or Garrison) had said earlier. Which is it?

we will keep United States alive for as long as we can...we just need that pword!

Then get it and have it invaded. Stop trying to get the mods to break the rules for you.
1 Infinite Loop
18-01-2004, 07:11
I don't mind the invasion, but I do mind the spam or "rp" as they call it. Because that usually kills a region while most regions last through an invasion.
I pointed this out on your other topic, but it seems to me, that you dont like how they are RPing, so therefore, you are griping about it. Just Accept the fact that this is a party that you are not going to get invited to and give it up. It is probably the best thing you can do.

Personally I believe US under Ben is better than it ever was under OTP, OTP ruled it as a tyrannical dictator, I had two puppets I wanted to have live there, but OTP denied me the right to enter as I didnt Deserve to live there.
Garrison II
18-01-2004, 18:58
Probably because he thought that you invaded to get the The East Pacific delegacy.
1 Infinite Loop
18-01-2004, 23:06
How would he know the puppet was me, I never told him that the Puppet was mine, only that it waanted to live in the US.
Does OTP use an Illegal script to scan for IP addresses or somthing?
In order for him to know that the puppet was mine he would have to do so.
Garrison II
18-01-2004, 23:39
I dunno, all I know that it wasn't being spammed day in and day out.
1 Infinite Loop
19-01-2004, 03:48
Your reply makes no sense.
Anbar
19-01-2004, 04:52
Your reply makes no sense.

Of course it doesn't - Garrison is resorting to the good old method of, "if you say it enough, it becomes true." That or he honestly believes that only his opinions and viewoint matter. Thus, for Garrison's reply to make sense, you have to remember that Garrison doesn't like what's going on the US (no matter how many times he's told that everything is legal and legitimate), and so anypost he doesn't like is spam, and any action he doesn't like is griefing. It's sad that some people are so lacking in perspective, and as a result, feel that they can manipulate the situation and demand that their viewpoint be respected over others.
1 Infinite Loop
19-01-2004, 06:40
Your reply makes no sense.

Of course it doesn't - Garrison is resorting to the good old method of, "if you say it enough, it becomes true." That or he honestly believes that only his opinions and viewoint matter. Thus, for Garrison's reply to make sense, you have to remember that Garrison doesn't like what's going on the US (no matter how many times he's told that everything is legal and legitimate), and so anypost he doesn't like is spam, and any action he doesn't like is griefing. It's sad that some people are so lacking in perspective, and as a result, feel that they can manipulate the situation and demand that their viewpoint be respected over others.

Interesting concept,

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well I hope this works.

*edit*
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The Most Glorious Hack
19-01-2004, 10:20
(The invasion was legal and this thread is locked)^47

Edit: Hey... it worked!