NationStates Jolt Archive

Just remembered to ask this (saw another thread abotu it). So here's my question:

I had accessed NationStates (with my country in the UN at that time) at both other computers and the school network, although I do not access my nation from there now. So would this get me into trouble (be kicked out of the UN) plus the "someone" if someone else registered a nation and joined the UN on that same IP after I've stopped accessing my nation using it? Would it be safe to have me exit the UN so that I don't really get into trouble?

Thanks. I'm trying to stay in the border as best I can.

I think you *should* be ok. When I first joined NS, I had two UN nations. I didn't know this was illegal at the time. I had them for a few weeks, and then took one out after I found it was illegal.

Point is, I'm still ok even after having them in for a few weeks.

How long ago did this happen?

Basenji, I'm sure Omz would like a moderator/Salusa answer. Until a mod answers, all you are doing is speculating.

I think you *should* be ok. When I first joined NS, I had two UN nations. I didn't know this was illegal at the time. I had them for a few weeks, and then took one out after I found it was illegal.

Point is, I'm still ok even after having them in for a few weeks.

How long ago did this happen?

Well, I don't really want to take risks, so it is best for me to have no record of "multi-ing" at all. I accessed this nation using the school network about 3 months ago, while 1 for the other home computers. While I believe that no one has signed up for a nation and join the UN on the other home computer I've used to access this (lemme see... about 2 or 3), I am highly unsure if anyone signed up for a nation in NS and joined the UN at the school network.

Basenji, I'm sure Omz would like a moderator/Salusa answer. Until a mod answers, all you are doing is speculating.
Actually, I do appreciate for a mod to answer this, although Basenji did do a good job of giving me some answers.

Right, sorry Omz. Just wanted to share my thoughts.

Omz: You're in the clear.

Auto: Chill out.

Right, sorry Omz. Just wanted to share my thoughts.
No, not a problem at all. I appreciate you giving your thoughts. It's just that I perfer a mod's answer to perfectly understand whether I'm breaking the rules or not.

EDIT:

Omz: You're in the clear.

Thanks, glad to hear.

Basenji, I'm sure Omz would like a moderator/Salusa answer. Until a mod answers, all you are doing is speculating.

that was rude.

that was rude.

That is a matter of opinion. It irratates me (and surprisingly alot of others) when a player asks for an answer by the mods on an issue that usually only the mods can handle, and people like Basenji jump in trying to solve it. I do understand he is trying to help, but sometimes a player just wants to speak with a mod. A player answering questions/solving problems that usually only mads can solve is pure speculation, and I'm sure it's not appreciated.

Neut agrees with me on this as well.

I don't see anywhere that he asked for only mod replies, and based on his comments after your reply he didn't mean to ask for mods only, either. It's fine with me when you make your own threads asking for only mods, AMF (although I realize you have yet to get your wish, I haven't made a comment on them yet), but you shouldn't jump into other threads to demand no one but mods respond.

There are people posting and thigns posted on NS that annoy me, too, but I don't demand that they stop at every turn.

What if Basenji was wrong and Omz was deleted? I doubt ANY player can rule on what the UN cheat scan can/can't do, that's the mod's department.


I'd also like to point out that making helpful posts and attempting to make rulings are two entirely different things. I can make thousands of helpful posts and never once take the place of a Mod on a ruling. It's quite easy, someone asks what griefing is, you respond with a short little post describing griefing. That's helpful, and the question does not require a Mod response. However, giving out information as if it's the biblical truth becomes a problem.

And Hack asked you to chill out, AMF. I'm sure that OMZ is quite capable of speaking for himself if he doesn't like player input. Jumping to the conclusion that OMZ doesn't want player input is just as aggravating as Basenji drawing from past rulings and information in other threads to offer advice. Especially since OMZ flatly stated that he appreciated Basenji's response. Furthermore, when prefaced by "I think" or "In the past, the Mods have...", the distinction becomes even more clear. This is called problem solving, or reasoning.

If you don't like players posting responses in Moderation, fine. But don't jump down someone's throat in someone else's thread over it.

Edit: The mods, [violet] and Salusa have made it pretty clear what the cheat scan can and can't do in the past. [violet] herself has flat out stated that IPs that resolve to .edus (as is the case here) get more leeway.

And Hack asked you to chill out, AMF.
And I sent him a TM about it, which i have yet to get a response to.

I'm sure that OMZ is quite capable of speaking for himself if he doesn't like player input.
On issues such as this, it's pretty safe to assume that a player is going to want an answer from somebody who knows exactly 100% what he's talking about. A player's knowledge of game functions is nowhere near that of a game mod's.

Jumping to the conclusion that OMZ doesn't want player input is just as aggravating as Basenji drawing from past rulings and information in other threads to offer advice. Especially since OMZ flatly stated that he appreciated Basenji's response.
But you took Omz's words out of context. What did he say at the start of the sentence? He said that "Actually, I do appreciate for a mod to answer this" then he stated that Basenji's answer was alright.


If you don't like players posting responses in Moderation, fine. But don't jump down someone's throat in someone else's thread over it.

I'm merely stating what a Game Mod said. He specifically stated that it is not helpful to make rulings. Also, things are constantly being changed in NS (remember the numerous "forum updates"? ), so sayig that Omz may have been alright for a maximum of a week is a very dangerous thing to say. He does not know 100% that the cheat scan will not detect is and delete Omz, and I'm sorry if me and Omz are cool and that I would not like to see that happen.


Edit: The mods, [violet] and Salusa have made it pretty clear what the cheat scan can and can't do in the past. [violet] herself has flat out stated that IPs that resolve to .edus (as is the case here) get more leeway.

Again, the only people that can safely answer a technical question such as UN cheat scans are Game Mod, plain and simple. Like I said above, things can change without notice. Wether you or anybody else agrees with me or not, Neut shares the same thoughts on topics like these as I do, and that's all that matters.

You continue to confuse people who offer advice with mod wannabes, AMF. I'm not going to argue with you about it anymore, but I think you should step back and reconsider how rabidly you pursue this anti-player-response business.

You continue to confuse people who offer advice with mod wannabes, AMF. I'm not going to argue with you about it anymore, but I think you should step back and reconsider how rabidly you pursue this anti-player-response business.

No, I rabidly pursue those players that attempt to make rulings on game functions. Helpful player responses are answering questions like "What is griefing?" or "How do declare war?". I'm saying that it's not right to make player based rulings on game functions. Unless of course they made the game. :roll:

<--- notes, as Goobergunchia, that this thread has become completely hijacked

And I apologize to Omz, the thread's author.

You guys knock it off.

And I apologize to Omz, the thread's author.
No problems.

Since I 1) Don't want this to be a flame war, 2) Don't want this to be hijacked, 3) the points are already made (well, the points about me wanting or not wanting mods only response, etc seemed obvious even before this hijacking) let's just cool this off. Forget about all those things above with the end of this word.

Anywho, Raem, I don't think my school network really has the ".edu" part. Just a ".ca" part, if you know what I mean.