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Hello, I propose to create mods that speack in other and native linguages... for example Francese, Alemanne, Espaniol, Italiano, and others... so, if a "Nation" have a problem, but don't speack Inglish very well, can spoke in her native linguage with mod.... so there aren't the problems of Traslations and/or misunderstoods.

Well considering this site is basically 100% english in terms of posting, I doubt that is really necessary. I think it would probably be far too much trouble for a bunch of volunteers! . Seriously, its a nice thought but its definitely far too much trouble for the return.

Hello, I propose to create mods that speack in other and native linguages... for example Francese, Alemanne, Espaniol, Italiano, and others... so, if a "Nation" have a problem, but don't speack Inglish very well, can spoke in her native linguage with mod.... so there aren't the problems of Traslations and/or misunderstoods.This is a pretty good idea, however there would need to be a few qualifications. Such as being fluent in said language (at least enough to properly debate and inform), and being bilingual with English as the second language.

The reason for being bilingual in english is to allow proper communications with the other mods and admin (who all speak english as default I believe) and to allow said mod(s) to communicate properly with the users, the majority of which speak english.

Even then, due to the seeming rarity of language problems, it would be wise to put language as a secondary priority behind moderation "skills".

Altough, it may be wise for the admin to keep a list of trustworthy players that can serve as translators if problems do arise.

Hello, I propose to create mods that speack in other and native linguages... for example Francese, Alemanne, Espaniol, Italiano, and others... so, if a "Nation" have a problem, but don't speack Inglish very well, can spoke in her native linguage with mod.... so there aren't the problems of Traslations and/or misunderstoods.This is a pretty good idea, however there would need to be a few qualifications. Such as being fluent in said language (at least enough to properly debate and inform), and being bilingual with English as the second language.

The reason for being bilingual in english is to allow proper communications with the other mods and admin (who all speak english as default I believe) and to allow said mod(s) to communicate properly with the users, the majority of which speak english.

Even then, due to the seeming rarity of language problems, it would be wise to put language as a secondary priority behind moderation "skills".

Altough, it may be wise for the admin to keep a list of trustworthy players that can serve as translators if problems do arise.

I don't know the solution... or solutions this is only a propose... but i think that is important to be understand in a game were is important "write the rights words"

Hello, I propose to create mods that speack in other and native linguages... for example Francese, Alemanne, Espaniol, Italiano, and others... so, if a "Nation" have a problem, but don't speack Inglish very well, can spoke in her native linguage with mod.... so there aren't the problems of Traslations and/or misunderstoods.This is a pretty good idea, however there would need to be a few qualifications. Such as being fluent in said language (at least enough to properly debate and inform), and being bilingual with English as the second language.

The reason for being bilingual in english is to allow proper communications with the other mods and admin (who all speak english as default I believe) and to allow said mod(s) to communicate properly with the users, the majority of which speak english.

Even then, due to the seeming rarity of language problems, it would be wise to put language as a secondary priority behind moderation "skills".

Altough, it may be wise for the admin to keep a list of trustworthy players that can serve as translators if problems do arise.

I don't know the solution... or solutions this is only a propose... but i think that is important to be understand in a game were is important "write the rights words"
Yeah you have to write the right words. Unfortunately, having anything beyond a friendly nation help out is asking too much. The Mods look swamped enough without dealing with language problems. Its just too much to ask. Plus, most people should be able to understand the jist of what is said, so long as its not on General and thereby flamed to death.

Note that I recognize that only a moderator can give a definate response, but since he did not ask specifically for mod only responses, I would like to put my 2/144ths of a drachauq in.
Hello, I propose to create mods that speack in other and native linguages... for example Francese, Alemanne, Espaniol, Italiano, and others... so, if a "Nation" have a problem, but don't speack Inglish very well, can spoke in her native linguage with mod.... so there aren't the problems of Traslations and/or misunderstoods.
It's a good idea in theory --at least in my opinion -- but I suspect that there would be qualification problems.

Just due to the sheer rarity of those who do not speak English as a native language as compared to those who do, except in a few cases, the mods would have to select as mods peoplw who would otherwise be nearer the bottom of the list.

I mean there are obvious exceptions like Ballotonia, whom, although I do not know how the mods fell about him, know that most of us players would love to see him modified, despite his adament insistance that he is uninterested in the job.

We do have plenty of mods who spea other languages though (Neut and Sal speak Epsañol, Sal speaks Italiano, etc), and plenty of players willing to help.

Note that I recognize that only a moderator can give a definate response, but since he did not ask specifically for mod only responses, I would like to put my 2/144ths of a drachauq in.
Hello, I propose to create mods that speack in other and native linguages... for example Francese, Alemanne, Espaniol, Italiano, and others... so, if a "Nation" have a problem, but don't speack Inglish very well, can spoke in her native linguage with mod.... so there aren't the problems of Traslations and/or misunderstoods.
It's a good idea in theory --at least in my opinion -- but I suspect that there would be qualification problems.

Just due to the sheer rarity of those who do not speak English as a native language as compared to those who do, except in a few cases, the mods would have to select as mods peoplw who would otherwise be nearer the bottom of the list.

I mean there are obvious exceptions like Ballotonia, whom, although I do not know how the mods fell about him, know that most of us players would love to see him modified, despite his adament insistance that he is uninterested in the job.

We do have plenty of mods who spea other languages though (Neut and Sal speak Epsañol, Sal speaks Italiano, etc), and plenty of players willing to help.

I write this as example and not as accuse for the mods....
Same weeks ago i had problems (i'm Italian) so i decided to use Italian to have the best defense from the words that i writed... no one of the mods spoked in Italian....

If anyone DOES speak a different language here, then they OBVIOUSLY can speak english, or they wouldn't have been able to make their nation in the bloody first place!

Ja, das stimmt.

If anyone DOES speak a different language here, then they OBVIOUSLY can speak english, or they wouldn't have been able to make their nation in the bloody first place!

Ja, das stimmt.

I don't object that is important to speack English.... but.... for example if this game was maded by Chinese and the Principal lingauge was Chinese... (and You speack Chinese so and so) How do you defend you????

I write this as example and not as accuse for the mods....
Same weeks ago i had problems (i'm Italian) so i decided to use Italian to have the best defense from the words that i writed... no one of the mods spoked in Italian....
I seem to recall that Salusa responded to you in Italian. THat implies that he is at least conversant in it.

I write this as example and not as accuse for the mods....
Same weeks ago i had problems (i'm Italian) so i decided to use Italian to have the best defense from the words that i writed... no one of the mods spoked in Italian....
I seem to recall that Salusa responded to you in Italian. THat implies that he is at least conversant in it.

I believe he was using a translator.

I write this as example and not as accuse for the mods....
Same weeks ago i had problems (i'm Italian) so i decided to use Italian to have the best defense from the words that i writed... no one of the mods spoked in Italian....
I seem to recall that Salusa responded to you in Italian. THat implies that he is at least conversant in it.

Salusa Used Babel Fish as trasletor and Agrigento speack Italian so and so as... but i repeat this isn't a accuse for the mods... my chase is only an example....

I speak Polish and French. Make me a moderator 8)

I was sarcastic. This is unofficial and sarcastic. I do not want by this post lose my chances in the future. Meh.

Salusa Used Babel Fish as trasletor and Agrigento speack Italian so and so as... but i repeat this isn't a accuse for the mods... my chase is only an example....
Ahh yes, did it work somewhat?

I'm learning español, and as such, it is fun to watch it translate things rather literally. You are't the first one who I've heard to nominate Agrigento as a moderator. I wonder if he will be. I don't know him very well, and it seems like half of the new mods are ones whom I do not really know very well when they are modified. Of course the mods have said that they are not looking for new mods at the monent, which they say means that they will not be promoting new mods, although I do recall that they also said that right before Siro and TG were modified. . .

I speak Polish and French. Make me a moderator 8)

I was sarcastic. This is unofficial and sarcastic. I do not want by this post lose my chances in the future. Meh.
What's that?
I was sarcastic. This is unofficial and sarcastic. I do not want by this post lose my chances in the future. Meh.
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Salusa Used Babel Fish as trasletor and Agrigento speack Italian so and so as... but i repeat this isn't a accuse for the mods... my chase is only an example....
Ahh yes, did it work somewhat?

I'm learning español, and as such, it is fun to watch it translate things rather literally. You are't the first one who I've heard to nominate Agrigento as a moderator. I wonder if he will be. I don't know him very well, and it seems like half of the new mods are ones whom I do not really know very well when they are modified. Of course the mods have said that they are not looking for new mods at the monent, which they say means that they will not be promoting new mods, although I do recall that they also said that right before Siro and TG were modified. . .

??? itsn't simple to translate italian in English

And what's that? I don't know him very well, and it seems like half of the new mods are ones whom I do not really know very well when they are modified. Of course the mods have said that they are not looking for new mods at the monent, which they say means that they will not be promoting new mods, although I do recall that they also said that right before Siro and TG were modified. . .

Isn't that what the "Looking For Translators" announcement is an attempt to do? (get a list of players who are willing to help if someone not so fluent in english has a problem). It was even in response to your problem, casa.
you can always count on someone to bold/size25 the fine print

Isn't that what the "Looking For Translators" announcement is an attempt to do? (get a list of players who are willing to help if someone not so fluent in english has a problem). It was even in response to your problem, casa.
you can always count on someone to bold/size25 the fine print


Oh yes you can. :P

Salusa Used Babel Fish as trasletor and Agrigento speack Italian so and so as... but i repeat this isn't a accuse for the mods... my chase is only an example....
Ahh yes, did it work somewhat?

I'm learning español, and as such, it is fun to watch it translate things rather literally. You are't the first one who I've heard to nominate Agrigento as a moderator. I wonder if he will be. I don't know him very well, and it seems like half of the new mods are ones whom I do not really know very well when they are modified. Of course the mods have said that they are not looking for new mods at the monent, which they say means that they will not be promoting new mods, although I do recall that they also said that right before Siro and TG were modified. . .

??? itsn't simple to translate italian in English
I must admit I find it easier to translate German-English and English-German, but that might be due to having done 10 years of it as opposed to only 2 of Italian.

What we do have on this site at the moment is a reasonably-sized group of Dutch speakers (witness "Het Nederlandse Topic" and its follow-ups), a few who can speak Italian (as shown by the responses which were given to you, Casa) and a group of other players who can speak other languages.
It seems to me as though the best solution would be - as is already being attempted - some kind of list of people and languages, so next time a Polish-speaker (say) has problems, then the mods can use another Polish-speaker as an intermediary. Appointing an Italian Mod, a French Mod, a Russian Mod and so on risks the creation of too many chiefs and not enough indians.

That said, it's a good excuse for me to learn another language :wink:

Well considering this site is basically 100% english in terms of posting, I doubt that is really necessary.
:cough:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64481
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111079
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112869
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106405

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=poland
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=nederland

Being the lingua franca of our time, english will be understood to some degree by the vast majority of players on nationstates. But it may nonetheless present a significant communication barrier to many. I think having volunteer translators is a very good idea. Multilingual mods would be even better, but finding good mods may be hard enough as is.

Gentlemen, between us, we have several languages covered, and in any case it is extremely rare indeed for problems to arise which involve a language other than English. Also, I direct your attention to the following topic in the Technical Forum:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104358

As you can see, we have already considered these issues.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Eh, I see six thread examples posted which are in a language other than English (assuming that it is so cuz I'm too lazy to look). Being six out of literally tens of thousands (roughly 40K) of threads makes this site "basically 100% English". Besides, good mods are indeed hard to come by.

Gentlemen, between us, we have several languages covered, and in any case it is extremely rare indeed for problems to arise which involve a language other than English. Also, I direct your attention to the following topic in the Technical Forum:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104358

As you can see, we have already considered these issues.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

.... i think that is more "democratic" to have moderator in your language... becouse when a Man/machine translate a your written isn't simple to preserve the sense of the phrase....

Io penso che è più democratico avere un moderatore nel propio linguaggio, perchè nel momento in cui interviene sulla frase una presona o una macchina per tradurre ciò che tu hai scritto è difficile che la traduzione possa mantenere il senso compiuto della frase inlingua originale.