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Being harassed by Frenchmen!!!!

The Eastern Seaboard
10-01-2004, 03:22
Ugh the French are back in the region of the United States and making fun of Americans AGAIN!!! They purposely go there to try to take over kick the natives around, and purposely annoy us. Someone please help us, this is the second time!



2 hours ago The Also We Are French of Architeuthis Americans cannot run their own nation because they are incapable of harnessing the atomic power of horses. Small land crabs can ride horses because they are not American and can also win wars. Land crabs have built-in armor and weaponry whereas Americans are small, pink-bellied creatures that do not possess tools like the lever and the wheel like small land crabs who are also bilingual. Because of this Mr. Bush takes orders from small land crabs who taste good steamed and dipped in butter made from hen milk. Hens give the best milk because their eggs are perfect spheres and thus are the most nutritious proof of the existence of Noah's Ark ever created by a Frenchman. The horses are proud of small land crabs because of their ability to take American wives and become nationalized so that they can dominate American elections. Ralph Nader is a small land crab and also as French as a horse is long. Hens can build small land crabs out of the spare parts a wasteful American will discard when attempting to create a Thanksgiving dinner. Small land crabs made from cranberry sauce have an extra claw and a savory aroma. This is because American soldiers cannot win wars or eat a bag of flour without a sip of French wine. French Hippos like to eat very large barrels of flour and confuse Americans by exhaling enormous white smokescreens. The French word for such behavior is "luftwaffe".
Juxtapositions
10-01-2004, 05:24
So why don't you just get the delegate or founder to kick them out?
Garrison II
10-01-2004, 05:27
Maybe cause he's inactive.
Juxtapositions
10-01-2004, 05:34
I just looked. I'd say your founder is inactive. He's dead. It looks like your delegate was active when the nations in question were there according to the regional happenings though. Why didn't he remove them then?
1 Infinite Loop
10-01-2004, 05:34
well you guys were making fun of them constantly, and the guy who claims to be Of the People and Of the People were constantly making fun of them, and claimed they were all deleted, perhaps you are now Reaping what you sewed.

whining and complaining only makes you look bad.
Ackbar
10-01-2004, 06:14
So you would prefer to be invaded by people you agree with?
Free Radicals of Mu-Mu
10-01-2004, 06:23
Architeuthis and his/her crowd are not actually French, so far as I can tell. They are just serial invaders who think they're amusing. Of course they are annoying you - that is their purpose. They've done it to lots of other regions too. Wake up your delegate, boot them out. But the mods can't and shouldn't help those who won't help themselves.
1 Infinite Loop
10-01-2004, 07:09
well they are not taking over the Delegate Seat, nor are they changing the Factbook or booting anyone, if is a founderless region, therefore it belongs to no one, and they are RolePlaying their "theme" they sound Ok to me.
and the only Native I have seen complain is Trekkers, who claims to Be Of the People, and well He was deleted for Cheating a while back.

And Honestly, the US is a land of Freedom and Opportunity, and the oppressive locked down regime of OTP was pretty Nazi, Ben Franklin is living up to the US theme.
Garrison II
10-01-2004, 18:00
I know but last time they took over they kept on kicking people out who said anything bad against the French, they constaintly annoyed us, and last time they took over Mars they wouldn't stop talking about Ping Pong Balls in people's mouths.
Garrison II
10-01-2004, 18:00
well you guys were making fun of them constantly, and the guy who claims to be Of the People and Of the People were constantly making fun of them, and claimed they were all deleted, perhaps you are now Reaping what you sewed.

whining and complaining only makes you look bad.
Name me an instance of when they were maken fun off?
New People
11-01-2004, 00:10
Frankly, Of the People and the Freedom Alliance had it coming to them.
Garrison II
11-01-2004, 00:58
Dude what about the rest of us do we deserve to be griefed?
Zielony
11-01-2004, 01:05
I remember when Abit the motherboard griefed with the NSIP... :roll:
Juxtapositions
11-01-2004, 03:01
Dude, maybe you missed my earlier question. It looks like your delegate was active when the nations in question were there according to the regional happenings though. Why didn't he remove them then?
1 Infinite Loop
11-01-2004, 07:42
well you guys were making fun of them constantly, and the guy who claims to be Of the People and Of the People were constantly making fun of them, and claimed they were all deleted, perhaps you are now Reaping what you sewed.

whining and complaining only makes you look bad.
Name me an instance of when they were maken fun off?

I dont have an exact instance, (the asking for one in itself is an act of attempting to use words to twist the truth to your side)
however I recall many times heating OTP make fun of them, claim they were deleted for various things (most of which he is guilty of aparently as his main nation was Deleted)

this is aparently some sort of RP, and well whining wont improve your appearance.
Garrison II
11-01-2004, 14:52
Dude, maybe you missed my earlier question. It looks like your delegate was active when the nations in question were there according to the regional happenings though. Why didn't he remove them then?

Dude this delegate wanted to let the AA in, the French Invaders in, and Francso Spain in. And OTP was deleted for having a U.N multi not teasing people. Plus if you look at the Frenches past history they torment the natives more, just ask Bajon whos region was invaded by them. They wouldn't stop talking about ping pong balls. Just look at the U.S Regional Happenings now

Here look

Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!

Proof that the best American songs are actually French in nature. This is because the French invented most musical instruments including the saxophone, piano, and guitar. In addition the French were the first to tame a hippo and teach it to sing pop music. This is called Christina Aguilera.

Les pauvres americains. On dirait que ça leur ennuie de ne plus être au pouvoir. Eh, bien....votre Ben Franklin, où est-il?
(laughter and hilarity ensue)

I can tell ya right now, Im NOT French, but Architeuthis is a very powerful leader, his words ring truthfull through the eons and will continure to bring enlighnment to all.

Heil Architeuthis!
Juxtapositions
11-01-2004, 15:02
Was your delegate an invader or was he elected by the natives? If he was elected by the natives why don't you just elect someone else?

Edit: Wait, I just looked you're not even in that region. Actually no one on this thread is in that region.
The Most Glorious Hack
11-01-2004, 15:15
That's coming close to flame-baiting, guys.
11-01-2004, 15:17
This whole thread is a joke, right? :D I mean, take a look at The Eastern Seaboard's "flag"...
Garrison II
11-01-2004, 15:33
Doesn't anyone remeber the French Invasion of the U.S, and Mars? And what they did? And isn't purposely going into a region and spewing anti american talk, and agrivating the natives griefing? I mean what if I went to France the region and talked crap about the French?
Juxtapositions
11-01-2004, 16:00
That's coming close to flame-baiting, guys.

Sorry to be obtuse here but could you clarify this? Where was the flamebaiting? If it was something I said I will surely apologize.
The Most Glorious Hack
11-01-2004, 16:12
I was refering to things like this:


Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!

Proof that the best American songs are actually French in nature. This is because the French invented most musical instruments including the saxophone, piano, and guitar. In addition the French were the first to tame a hippo and teach it to sing pop music. This is called Christina Aguilera.

Les pauvres americains. On dirait que ça leur ennuie de ne plus être au pouvoir. Eh, bien....votre Ben Franklin, où est-il?
(laughter and hilarity ensue)

I can tell ya right now, Im NOT French, but Architeuthis is a very powerful leader, his words ring truthfull through the eons and will continure to bring enlighnment to all.

Heil Architeuthis!

It's looking like they're essentially trying to piss off the region, and goad them into flaming.
Nothingg
11-01-2004, 17:31
Quoting disco lyrics is flamebaiting now? I'm gonna have to write that one down for future refrence. :roll:
Snotzi
11-01-2004, 19:52
I was refering to things like this:


Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!

Proof that the best American songs are actually French in nature. This is because the French invented most musical instruments including the saxophone, piano, and guitar. In addition the French were the first to tame a hippo and teach it to sing pop music. This is called Christina Aguilera.

Les pauvres americains. On dirait que ça leur ennuie de ne plus être au pouvoir. Eh, bien....votre Ben Franklin, où est-il?
(laughter and hilarity ensue)

I can tell ya right now, Im NOT French, but Architeuthis is a very powerful leader, his words ring truthfull through the eons and will continure to bring enlighnment to all.

Heil Architeuthis!

It's looking like they're essentially trying to piss off the region, and goad them into flaming.

It is a tough line. While we'll be careful about baiting, I hardly see how disagreeing with someone humopursly should be calle dcrossing that line-- at least in terms of the above post.

Should someone who invades a region only agree with the locals or not post at all if they disagree? Both make no sense. Now, another option is to go in and be rude and demeaning, now that doesn't make sense either.

But, honestly, quoting Le Chic as one of the greatest musical influences... if this can't be seen as disagreeing in a humourous and easily falibale manner, not sure what you are lookin for.

Not saying we won;t be careful, but ju that I hardly see how this could really be a flame.
Corsairio
11-01-2004, 19:57
Why are the French so bad? History tells us that although they are imperial in nature, they will fail at Russia, and become weak and driven back to their home. Just wait until they fail.
Beachcomber
11-01-2004, 21:05
I see we're back to the famous "Regions don't like to be invaded and doing things people don't like is griefing, therefore all invaders are griefers" argument.

I though we got over that, like, 6 months ago.
Garrison II
11-01-2004, 21:56
Dude is this not griefing what they're posting

"Horses are big. American horses are not big, as American men cannot please thier women. Also, Iraq enjoys sheep pie because they took over Kentucky because the Americans cannot win wars because they cannot please thier women because they do not have large horses also we have large horses and enjoy smoking very large French cigars because we like wine."
New People
12-01-2004, 01:40
That's funny. It's obviously ludicrous. You taking that seriously, abit?
Otto Skorzeny
12-01-2004, 07:02
I was refering to things like this:




I can tell ya right now, Im NOT French, but Architeuthis is a very powerful leader, his words ring truthfull through the eons and will continure to bring enlighnment to all.

Heil Architeuthis!

It's looking like they're essentially trying to piss off the region, and goad them into flaming.

Actually Mr Hack, that part I left in my quote there, is mine, and I feel before I get accused I must say this, earlier before the dance song bit, one of the so called "locals"said soem rather inflamitory things about Mr Architeuthis, calling him a pathetic leader, a rotten Ba**ard, and various other things, I was replying to that, because I dontthink it fair that he was making such statements about a Friend of mine.
I apologise for appearing to be flamebaiting. or inciting unrest.
I wish I knew where my screencap of what was said is located.

81!
Otto Skorzeny
12-01-2004, 07:06
Also Garrison, if youare taking all that stuff seriously, there is something wrong with you, you cannot be thin skinned and still be the Lobsterman.
The Most Glorious Hack
12-01-2004, 09:35
I see we're back to the famous "Regions don't like to be invaded and doing things people don't like is griefing, therefore all invaders are griefers" argument.

I though we got over that, like, 6 months ago.

Get down off of your cross, Beachcomber, and read what I wrote, not what you're projecting onto my words.

I was very careful to say it was getting close to being flamebait. Not that it was griefing.

Taking over a region is just fine. Filling the message boards of a region called "The United States" with anti-American rhetoric is flame-baiting. The only reason to post that is to piss off the natives, and cause them to flame the invaders.

You know? Baiting flames? It's not that difficult to figure out.
Garrison II
12-01-2004, 21:36
Garrison II
12-01-2004, 21:37
Hahaha they think spam and griefing is protected by the first admendment which doesn't even apply in nationstates

11 hours ago The National Socialist Republic of Otto Skorzeny ^
United States

World Factbook Entry: The Bill of Rights is the heart of what makes our country great. AMENDMENT I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Telegram Ben if you wish to join our region.

Trekkers, you are so wrong, the fact book above says we have the right to Freedom of Speach, Freedom of the Press, ect, no where in it does it say we only have these freedoms asociated with religion, you sir need to leave this region. You are preaching hate and your views are more akin to the constant rewritten stuff preached by Stalin.

11 hours ago The Crazy Mad Invaders of The NS Invaders Actually, I havae been doing some research on you Trekkers, and if youtruly are OTP, then you are not going to like this post.

OTP is a member of a known Griefer association. Perhaps if Ben Shows back up soon he should boot you and your Cronies out as a Preemptive strike against Griefings.
Trekkers
Andistine
Garrison II

(I'm not too sure if I spelled the second one properly, but it is the person claiming to be a Moderator the other day.)

2 hours ago The Freedom Alliance State of Andistine I DID NOT CLAIM TO BE A MOD YOU IDIOT. I SAID I WAS THE MOD OF THE FA FORUM!


I think Ben is in league with the French because only they can get in.
1 Infinite Loop
13-01-2004, 05:58
What does it matter?
Ackbar1001
13-01-2004, 06:46
Taking over a region is just fine. Filling the message boards of a region called "The United States" with anti-American rhetoric is flame-baiting. The only reason to post that is to piss off the natives, and cause them to flame the invaders.

You know? Baiting flames? It's not that difficult to figure out.

Not that many would agree that praising Le Chic is anti-american really (because it is dumb, and to take it seriosuly is almost impossible to do).

So, the way for this not to be flaming is to go into The US and either don't mention the us at all, or only agree with the natives?

Really, no reason to get upset, on either side. I understand what you are saying Hack, but it's imprtant not to get lip-griendly PC, to the point that the ludricous becomes an actual concern.
Anbar
13-01-2004, 09:35
Hahaha they think spam and griefing is protected by the first admendment which doesn't even apply in nationstates

But it would apply in a region which is allegedly mirroring the good ol' US of A, and because of that, this is good roleplaying. You ought to try it, while learning to understand distinctions between real life, OOC moderation, and IC roleplaying. This is a game - stop whining, play by the rules, and maybe you'll actually succeed in your endeavors.
Garrison II
15-01-2004, 02:45
BS your just twisting it out of context, so this forum is IC I can go saying the stuff your saying as a roleplay? I'm on these forums everyday! How is that IC if your saying stuff about american women are you saying that as a leader the leader of your nation because if it is "rp" it's pretty horrible. Anyways the first admendment isn't to protect your spam.
Anbar
15-01-2004, 03:13
BS your just twisting it out of context, so this forum is IC I can go saying the stuff your saying as a roleplay? I'm on these forums everyday! How is that IC if your saying stuff about american women are you saying that as a leader the leader of your nation because if it is "rp" it's pretty horrible. Anyways the first admendment isn't to protect your spam.

No, I'm not twisting it out of context. The regional boards are IC, and as such, there are French nations there roleplaying. It doesn't cease to become roleplaying just because some people don't like it when the rp'ing doesn't go their way. The mention of the first ammendment was made by a player in regards to dissent within the region - an IC issue. Now, you drag real life matters of legality to the OOC moderation forum. The first ammendment has no application to matters of moderating perfectly legal in-game rp'ing.

Do you see the difference? IC references to IC issues of the French/US as compared to your real life law to OOC moderation (to which only OOC game rules apply). You may not want to hear it, but I wouldn't either if it were counter to my atttempts to get the mods to solve my in-game problems for me...
Bistmath
15-01-2004, 06:00
in the same vein this is posted on the sp's board right now:


20 minutes ago The Disputed Territories of Used-up Names oh and this is mightily amusing:
61 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of The Taunting Frenchmen departed this region for Camelot
New People
15-01-2004, 07:10
Garrison, who are you in United States? You obviously are not a native, so what's your beef? If you have a puppet who is a "native" of United States (you can only be native to one region, mind you), why isn't it posting in here? It should be the one lodging complaints. If you don't have a puppet in United States then you don't have a strong case here.
Garrison II
16-01-2004, 00:35
Maybe its because the United States is an ally and friend to my org? And the fact that it was a pain in the butt to free the U.S before and last time the french came they tookover the region of America, somehow got the foundership even though they didn't found it. I don't want that to happen again. Is this really roleplaying?

3 hours ago The Also We Are French of Architeuthis You can never fool the French because their brains are constructed by the finest scientists on the planet who are all French because of their horses. When you make claims that are untrue the horses can sense it with their special animal instincts which are imported from France which has the most powerful horse military on the planet. The horses cannot speak because that would be ridiculous but all Frenchmen have powerful brains invented by horses and thus ESP and so they can read the minds of the horses who can tell when Americans are lying or eating foul processed cheese. Horses are large and have big heads and long brains which can smell trouble from six miles away and also eat 900 pounds of hay in under 16 minutes and because of this sometimes they have to poop when in the middle of reading minds but because they are advanced beyond rules and embarrassments they can poop whenever they feel like it which is a freedom Americans do not have in the so-called land of the free. Horses are the best poopers in the world. They are out standing in their field.
Garrison II
16-01-2004, 00:44
Also the fact that the french raped Bajons former region of Mars that never attacked anyone and was a rping region kicking out the delegate and kicking him whenever he got endorsements. After the invasion they filled the board with crap about how many ping pong balls you could fit in your mouth. Then everyone just left because they couldn't take that crap and the French lost intrest and the region died.
16-01-2004, 01:16
{Post Removed by NS Mod.}
{This ain't General, RL politics doesn't belong here.}
Garrison II
16-01-2004, 01:29
First of all I'm not anti french and I don't think the french apreciate the things that people say about them but what these invaders are saying isn't rping but spam.
Garrison II
16-01-2004, 01:31
The reason they probably act French is the very reason that your pointing out, people will underestimate them.
New People
16-01-2004, 05:28
Also the fact that the french raped Bajons former region of Mars that never attacked anyone and was a rping region kicking out the delegate and kicking him whenever he got endorsements. After the invasion they filled the board with crap about how many ping pong balls you could fit in your mouth. Then everyone just left because they couldn't take that crap and the French lost intrest and the region died.

Did the region die because of lack of interest or did the Freedom Alliance liberate it and oust the French?
Garrison II
16-01-2004, 15:52
No one tried to liberate them, everyone left the region because they were fed up with the spam.
Ackbar
17-01-2004, 07:57
No one tried to liberate them, everyone left the region because they were fed up with the spam.

I thought the region was associtated with the FA, though. Was it? And if so, did they try to liberate it?
Garrison II
17-01-2004, 13:31
Mars wasn't assosiated with any alliances, we plotted to take it back but every time we did we got kicked and banned and some natives got kicked along with us.
imported_Trekkers
17-01-2004, 23:46
And America.


Looks folks, Im Of the People and I was in America when it happened and United States when that happened and I supported Mars and now thanks to the Mods deleting Of the People for something untrue and totally BS we are in this situation. Our delegate is not beliving any of this happened and he has sided w/ the French. They all need to be kicked out. This is clearly an undermining attempt to take over the region. The Moderators are desperatly needed in this, we have a treasonus delegate who cleared the banlist and let them all back in, we spend a couple months under the French rule and Im NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN! All there posting is SPAM anyways.


WE NEED THE MODERATORS HELP!
New People
18-01-2004, 01:14
Mars wasn't assosiated with any alliances, we plotted to take it back but every time we did we got kicked and banned and some natives got kicked along with us.

Then why do you and why did OTP and the FA claim a gallant expedition in Mars where you defeated the French and liberated the region from them? Or was that... not the entire truth?
New People
18-01-2004, 01:41
Also the fact that the french raped Bajons former region of Marsthat never attacked anyoneand was a rping region kicking out the delegate andkicking him whenever he got endorsements. After the invasion they filled the board with crap about how many ping pong balls you could fit in your mouth. Then everyone just left...because they couldn't take that crap and the French lost intrest and the region died.

Bit of advice, kid: Keep loaded words and phrases to a minimum if you want someone to believe you/take you seriously.
imported_Trekkers
18-01-2004, 02:47
Mars wasn't assosiated with any alliances, we plotted to take it back but every time we did we got kicked and banned and some natives got kicked along with us.

Then why do you and why did OTP and the FA claim a gallant expedition in Mars where you defeated the French and liberated the region from them? Or was that... not the entire truth?

Its like the war on Terror...we defeat it and move on...Mars was a victory, but it wasnt the end on the war.
imported_Trekkers
18-01-2004, 02:48
O..

United States is Home of the Freedom Alliance and a member of the SCDT and Im FA Ambassador over in The Meritocracy.
Nothingg
18-01-2004, 06:02
So, you cheated and got thrown out of the game. Now you want the mods to help you by breaking the rules and kicking out legal players? :roll:
New People
18-01-2004, 06:34
Mars wasn't assosiated with any alliances, we plotted to take it back but every time we did we got kicked and banned and some natives got kicked along with us.

Then why do you and why did OTP and the FA claim a gallant expedition in Mars where you defeated the French and liberated the region from them? Or was that... not the entire truth?

Its like the war on Terror...we defeat it and move on...[n]Mars was a victory,[/b] but it wasnt the end on the war.

Except that that is the opposite what I had just quoted you as saying.
New People
18-01-2004, 06:36
So, you cheated and got thrown out of the game. Now you want the mods to help you by breaking the rules and kicking out legal players? :roll:

Apparently he doesn't think to use any of the alliances he's so keen on pointing out he's involved inl. It's just easier to complain to mommy to to make you a special case I'll bet.
1 Infinite Loop
18-01-2004, 06:57
First of all I'm not anti french and I don't think the french apreciate the things that people say about them but what these invaders are saying isn't rping but spam.

Actually I bet the only reason you dont think it is RP is because youare not part of it.
Dude, let them RP how they want, they dont tell you how to RP or how to grief a region or how to vote for endorsements, and seriously you are nearing griefing as youare harassing folks trying to play a game nad have some fun.
1 Infinite Loop
18-01-2004, 07:00
And America.


Looks folks, Im Of the People and I was in America when it happened and United States when that happened and I supported Mars and now thanks to the Mods deleting Of the People for something untrue and totally BS we are in this situation. Our delegate is not beliving any of this happened and he has sided w/ the French. They all need to be kicked out. This is clearly an undermining attempt to take over the region. The Moderators are desperatly needed in this, we have a treasonus delegate who cleared the banlist and let them all back in, we spend a couple months under the French rule and Im NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN! All there posting is SPAM anyways.


WE NEED THE MODERATORS HELP!

Maby He sided with the French because you and your allies are being Obnoixious, Never considered that did ya, he probably also doesnt want you to retake the region as well (, I hope the mods dont consider this inappropriate, if they do, I will hapilly remove it, )
you were caught Cheating, and doesnt want the US ruled by a cheater.
1 Infinite Loop
18-01-2004, 07:04
Mars wasn't assosiated with any alliances, we plotted to take it back but every time we did we got kicked and banned and some natives got kicked along with us.

Then why do you and why did OTP and the FA claim a gallant expedition in Mars where you defeated the French and liberated the region from them? Or was that... not the entire truth?

Its like the war on Terror...we defeat it and move on...Mars was a victory, but it wasnt the end on the war.

Ok you calim to have beaten the French in Mars, well I just looked in on it and it sure seems pretty silly, mayhaps you just came in Griefed the region claiming to be liberating it then left before the mods deleted you?and now Mars has returned to its naturally silly natural state?

(sorry bout the successive posts, )
Garrison II
18-01-2004, 18:56
Mars was months ago and no we didn't beat the French in mars, so if I go and say what they're saying on these boards is it rping?
1 Infinite Loop
18-01-2004, 23:20
Mars was months ago and no we didn't beat the French in mars, so if I go and say what they're saying on these boards is it rping?

thats funny, just a few posts ago you guys were claiming you drove the "Dirty French" out of Mars.
Make up your mind please, you loose credibility when you change your story in mid argument.

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New People
18-01-2004, 23:21
Yes. The Appalachian Village is correct.

Also I wonder what OTP will say on West Alerica now.
Garrison II
18-01-2004, 23:38
Look Trekkers must be smoking something but I'm right, even ask Bajon or New ArAreBee they were natives there. Go ask the region of The Planet Mars the former inhabitants of Mars.
1 Infinite Loop
19-01-2004, 03:35
Self Denial and Self Delusion are the opiates of the masses.