NationStates Jolt Archive


a strange change of spam of publicity

02-01-2004, 21:16
Hello in my region there is a abuse of the World Factbook Entry: infact this is used by delegate as permanent publicity message for an external web-forum.... this is an example of Spam...

This is The Message:
World Factbook Entry: Welcome to The South Pacific. It's a truly free, just, and peaceful region. Questions or comments? Telegram the Delegate. Wanna start a political or military career? Join The South Pacific Forum at http://invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php We hope you never tire of life in The South Pacific or move to a new region. [Don’t know what to get The Second Imperium for Christmas. How ‘bout an endorsement? He’ll send you an endorsement and a lampshade in return.]

See that the link goes to an external Forum from this game... this is publicity and permanent spam.
I want the stop of this abuse....
Goobergunchia
02-01-2004, 21:20
If that's spam, then every major region in this game is in violation. :roll:
02-01-2004, 23:22
Every major region does that you dip. Look around before you start crying SPAM. Furthermore, how is that SPAM as it is directly related to your region, thereby perhaps the un-SPAM?
Sirocco
02-01-2004, 23:46
If the website had nothing to do with NS or the region it would be spam.
02-01-2004, 23:49
In this external forum there is a abuse of the game of same members of the region...
Cogitation
03-01-2004, 00:18
Every major region does that you dip.

Don't insult other players.

...

Casalanario sud: Players are allowed to put links to external forums in the World Factbook Entry, especially if the external forum was created to talk about NationStates or if the external forum is related to the theme of the region.

For example, my region "The Realm of Ambrosia", is themed after Ambrosia Software Incorporated and includes a link to the Ambrosia Software Webboard (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi). This is allowed in World Factbook Entries.

In this external forum there is a abuse of the game of same members of the region...

Can you be specific? I don't know what you mean.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator
Myrth
03-01-2004, 00:20
If the website had nothing to do with NS or the region it would be spam.

See the region 'France'
Keeper of the Hall
03-01-2004, 01:19
If the website had nothing to do with NS or the region it would be spam.

See the region 'France'
France

World Factbook Entry: Bienvenue en France, notre Patrie bien-aimee. Vive Le Pen, vive La France, vive l'Europe et vivent tous nos camarades! ~~ www.FrontNational.com

UN Delegate: FlagThe Jean-Marie Le Pen fans of Front National.

The website is for LePen's right wing exenophobes and has zip to do with NS since it's talking about a real world party
03-01-2004, 02:31
It's a political party, so it's politics... And since NationStates is about politics, it has a link with the game. He is simulating his party (his nation) in his country (his region).
Liverpool England
03-01-2004, 02:35
Casa, the South Pacific has the right to put that in. Yes, it may be off-site, but it has to do with NationStates. However, as you see in France's factbook entry, that has no relation to NS, and should, by right, be taken off, and I am sure the mods are on it. I will try to get a babelfish translation.
Liverpool England
03-01-2004, 02:39
Il casa, il Pacifico del sud ha la destra mettere quello dentro. Sì, può essere fuori-luogo, ma riguarda NationStates. Tuttavia, come vedete nell'entrata del factbook della Francia, che non ha rapporto al NS e dovreste, dalla destra, essere tolti e sono sicuro che i moderatori del gioco sono su esso. Proverò ad ottenere una traduzione del babelfish.
Bistmath
03-01-2004, 02:39
the link is to the south pacific's offsite forum where he is not being abused. all are welcome. we are a peaceful and patient people. he's been hammering at us like this for months now. i would like to refer you to his other threads His complaint against the mods etc. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) and My original complaint (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103869)
Front National
03-01-2004, 02:39
You people really have nothing else to moderate :roll:
Liverpool England
03-01-2004, 02:40
You people really have nothing else to moderate :roll:

If you have nothing good to say, stay out of this thread.
Front National
03-01-2004, 02:42
If you have nothing good to say, stay out of this thread.

You're not my wife and you're not a mod.
Liverpool England
03-01-2004, 02:42
the link is to the south pacific's offsite forum where he is not being abused. all are welcome. we are a peaceful and patient people. he's been hammering at us like this for months now. i would like to refer you to his other threads His complaint against the mods etc. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) and My original complaint (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103869)

Bistmath: OOCly, I hope you still remember me from the chat we had in The Heartland's chatroom after the glitch of Francos. ICly, I remember those threads, and he may have been difficult to handle, but I feel by talking to him with real...... respect, like I did in my reply, might work.
Liverpool England
03-01-2004, 02:43
Double post.
Liverpool England
03-01-2004, 02:43
If you have nothing good to say, stay out of this thread.

You're not my wife and you're not a mod. So f off
Please don't flame. I am asking for a mod to give an official warning, plus delete all unneccessary posts.
Bistmath
03-01-2004, 02:44
we've tried that. i would encourage all to come to the sp and take a look at his threads on our offsite. all are treated with respect. he was reinstated after his unfortunate banning by our last delegate.

i do indeed remember you fondly. however, when i write in here, i am myself and not a character. :)

oops. that came out amusingly. this is in response to LE's post about talking to casa with respect.
Liverpool England
03-01-2004, 02:45
Il casa, il Pacifico del sud ha la destra mettere quello dentro. Sì, può essere fuori-luogo, ma riguarda NationStates. Tuttavia, come vedete nell'entrata del factbook della Francia, che non ha rapporto al NS e dovreste, dalla destra, essere tolti e sono sicuro che i moderatori del gioco sono su esso. Proverò ad ottenere una traduzione del babelfish.

In case Casa misses this. Casa, I have the most respect for you, and for all the other players in this game too. Here is a babelfish translation of what I have mentioned.
The Most Glorious Hack
03-01-2004, 07:10
This is just silly. It's not spam, and it's not going to be removed.
03-01-2004, 14:09
The abuse is that Nations should to do an Account on this web-forum if they want to do politics in the South Pacific.... for this Nations there isn't politic if you aren't a member of the forum... the nations that moderat the external forum spamming the regional board with message to register to it... Stop to all this abuse... i want only to play in NationStates.... but they want to impose me an external game....

This is a message of Spam...
5 hours ago The Fluffy Fudgey Funhouse of Fudgetopia:
Welcome to the SP Bracius - allow me to be the first to extend a warm hug and an ivitation to join our offsite forums at http://invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php, where you can hang out with the rest of the lampshaded loonies around this place.
Sirocco
03-01-2004, 14:28
My only advice is that if you don't like how your region's run, you can either move or create a new region. Either that or you can vie for UN delegacy of the region.
Remba
03-01-2004, 14:46
Wow... you're just looking for a reason to complain, huh?

You don't have to join the external forums if you don't want to.

And, like Sir. Occo said, you can always pick another region. I realise it may be hard to find a replacement, but I'm sure you can find one considering the fact that there are 11,777 regions in this game.
03-01-2004, 14:49
.... were is the freedom of speech???
03-01-2004, 14:50
i only for posted a message with stastichal (political statistichal)... they accused me of spam....
Sirocco
03-01-2004, 14:51
This is a private site owned by Max Barry. Your free speech is limited here. Read the FAQ.
Remba
03-01-2004, 14:51
.... were is the freedom of speech???

You're the one trying to keep Delegate from advertising off site forums...
Crazy girl
03-01-2004, 14:56
It's free speech, so I can post whatever I like here, right?
Ahahahaha! Hahaha! Free speech! No, it's not. I run this web site, see, so you have to play by my rules. It's like my own Father Knows Best state.

one of my favorite quotes from the FAQ :D
Bistmath
03-01-2004, 16:30
*looks at the delegate in the offsite rythmically beating her head into the wall.... *

casa i have explained this to you using a babel fish translator... in italian... not great italian... but italian... it was not the content of your message but the repetitive nature of the thread you created on the offsite forum. you were accused fo spam for making multiple posts of the same useless crap. i also, suggested to you that you should have put up your latest message in the theread you had already made...

the world factbook entry is not abusive at all, and DVD has posted a message from Max Berry endorsing the offsite forums (praising the one the meritocracy made).

casa, in the new thread, i have made suggestions for sources of error in your statistics. you have willfully ignored them.

so stop your bellyaching and get on with life. now a moderator in the game has suggested you find a new place to live if you'd like a better home. why don't you do that? I am sick of reading complaints from the good citizens of the south pacific against you. they are tired of your pathetic antics and so am i. I will once again remind you that you are there on a technicality and that they are looking to have you tossed out. I fear you have forgotten your debt to LR. She could have left you mouldering in the RR but instead we upheld the charter of the SP and let you back in.

Now I will translate it into Italian for you:

il casa i ha spiegato questo a voi che per mezzo di un traduttore dei pesci de Babele... in italiano l'italiano non grande...... ma italiano... non era il contenuto del vostro messaggio ma della natura ripetuta del filetto che avete generato sulla tribuna del offsite. eravate Spam accusato di fo per fare gli alberini multipli dello stesso crap inutile. i anche, suggerito a voi che dovreste mettere in su il vostro ultimo messaggio nel theread voi già aveva fatto...

l'entrata del factbook del mondo non è abusiva affatto e DVD ha inviato un messaggio dalla bacca massima che firma le tribune del offsite (che elogiano quello il meritocracy fatto).

casa, nel nuovo filetto, ho formulato i suggerimenti per le fonti dell'errore nelle vostre statistiche. le avete ignorate ostinato.

così arresti vostro bellyaching ed ottenga sopra con vita. ora un moderatore nel gioco li ha suggeriti per trovare un nuovo posto per vivere se gradiste una sede migliore. perchè non fate quello? Sono malato dei reclami della lettura dai buoni cittadini del Pacifico del sud contro di voi. sono tired dei vostri antics pathetic ed in modo da sono io. Ancora una volta vi ricorderò che siete là su una tecnicità e che stanno osservando per farli gettare fuori. Temo che avete dimenticato il vostro debito a LR. Potrebbe lasciarla che mouldering nel RR ma preferibilmente abbiamo sostenuto la lettera dello PS e li abbiamo lasciati indietro dentro

*Later: realizes she doesn't have to mod or do anything here. wanders upstairs to make popcorn.* Have fun, y'all.
Fudgetopia
04-01-2004, 00:22
The abuse is that Nations should to do an Account on this web-forum if they want to do politics in the South Pacific.... for this Nations there isn't politic if you aren't a member of the forum... the nations that moderat the external forum spamming the regional board with message to register to it... Stop to all this abuse... i want only to play in NationStates.... but they want to impose me an external game....

This is a message of Spam...
5 hours ago The Fluffy Fudgey Funhouse of Fudgetopia:
Welcome to the SP Bracius - allow me to be the first to extend a warm hug and an ivitation to join our offsite forums at http://invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php, where you can hang out with the rest of the lampshaded loonies around this place.

*sigh*

I feel like I've been here before somehow. I'm not here to justify my actions, only to state that the nation I welcomed was new, and was looking for help. I posted that message once, and the nation chose not to join the forums. It is not spam by any definition casa. Please just leave us alone.
LadyRebels
04-01-2004, 04:26
Ok a word from the Delegate that keeps banging her head against the walls in the Off site forums and sometimes on the Regional Board.

We do not require anyone to join the off site, if they would prefer to conduct Business on the Regional Boards we do so, I am not on all the time, um duh, I have a life, small as it might be it is mine to run and no one eles'.

We work within NationStates, by the way thank you Max Berry and Reploid(sp?) for the game, I do love it :D , I loved the book as well, a very good read, so if you have not read it, I recommend that you do so. Anyway back to the business at hand.

We have the off site so that everyone gets a chance to work within a Government setting, some do not have the time to be a Delegate, some do not wish to be Delegate and such, but they would like the chance to work in a Government, that is what the off site gives them, the chance to carry out a campainge, get elected and see what happens. There is nothing wrong with that, not that I see. So again Casa bashes us, well honestly, he has done this so many times the Banging my head against a Brick Wall is so much easier on my Cenrtal Nervous System.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, if you have any questions please let me, or a member of the SP know and we will gladly answer them for you.

Respectfully,
The Queen of LadyRebels
Delegate of the South Pacific
Appointed by the Nobel Nations of the South Pacific 8)
06-01-2004, 18:46
LR.... you talk as Silvio Berlusconi...
Peng-Pau
06-01-2004, 19:20
.... were is the freedom of speech???

In a safe in New Mexico, where George Bush has it under careful observation lest it becomes too widespread.
Bistmath
06-01-2004, 19:33
LR.... you talk as Silvio Berlusconi...

can you back up those accusations?
06-01-2004, 19:38
LR.... you talk as Silvio Berlusconi...

can you back up those accusations?
This isn't a accusation.... i have observed this....