NationStates Jolt Archive

Hey there..

I just got deleted for, what I believe..an unfair reason.
My nation.."backwoods squatches" was just deleted becuase I basically..disagreed with a mod.

She locked a post in wich she and I got into a bit of a arguement.
I admit..I may have been out of line....but so..i feel..was she.

Nuet apparently posted a warning on that thread afetr it was locked.
I didnt see it.

Then..I posted a thread in wich...i wanted to get others opinions on the conversation.

Thats all i meant by making that thread.

In no way....did i intend to flame anyone. Perhaps i was lacking in subtlety or tact.

If thats how people took it..I apologize.

I have never been given any kind of warning on the general forum..nor any other..
Most of the time....i only indulge in civil debate.

I have to ask....was deleting my nation really needed?

If not.....can it be undone?

If you look in your last thread in general, Neut tells you why.

I've just raised a simliar thread... if you'd like, I'll ask the Mods to lock mine?

I read it...

But I just dont feel it was quite fair.

Ive never even been warned before tonight.
Maybe I went too far in the "I hate Iran" thtread.....but I dont feel I was the only one.
Wich...I know..isnt an exscuse..but in the thread Neut mentions..he said it was a "general warning"...after I asked if he directed it at me.

Im sorry if i screwed up guys...but it really wasnt intentional.

Isnt there any kind of.."second chance? or "slap on the wrist" policy for first time offenders?

I had already given you a kinder, gentler warning earlier tonight. You failed to heed my warning to not attack players, but their posts instead. Not only that, you didnt heed Steph's warning to knock off the flaming. After she locked the thread, you created another thread to carry on where the first left off.

For these reasons, Backwoods Squatches was deleted.

Well, you argued with a mod. Just cause you didnt mean to flame anyone, doesn't mean you didnt.

It's not about arguing with a Mod. It's about needlessly flaming another player after lraedy recieving a warning that attacking the player rather than the post was unacceptable. And, I might add, it was not just an attack, but an extremely aggressive one that is still continuing

It's not about arguing with a Mod. It's about needlessly flaming another player after lraedy recieving a warning that attacking the player rather than the post was unacceptable. And, I might add, it was not just an attack, but an extremely aggressive one that is still continuing

Thanks for locking my thread (note, NO sarcasm, an honest comment!!) :wink:

I don't generally like to question the Mods (not because I'm scared to, but because I feel that a good job is done).. but in this instance, wouldn't it have been more just to maybe issue a forum ban, to let Backwards S cool down a bit?

Also, in his defence, you didn't actually give him (her?) an official warning previously, you were sporting and made it a 'general' warning to those on the thread. If this is the case, I thought it was policy to delete on the second official warning?

And, I might add, it was not just an attack, but an extremely aggressive one that is still continuing

ah..er..

sorry if you feel this is being agressive.. it HONESTLY is intended to be... and from what I can see, Backwards S (now known as Hotlovin), seems to be going out of his/her way to be apologetic for the tone used in previous threads and posts.

I think maybe you you misinterperet my reasons for the last post..
My intent...wasnt to flame anyone.

I was trying to see if i was justified in saying what i did...or....if i had indeed..posted innapropriately.

Wich....im guessing ..i did,

I honestly....was not trying to flame Stephanie......I was only trying to make her see my point of view, in the "I hate Iran" thread.

I agree.....it got out of hand.

I think maybe....you take my own innability to properly express my intentions as flamebaiting........

as i said.....ive never even been warned before tonight.
Thats just not the kind of poster I usually am.

I know your not going to re-instate my nation..but I hope you will at least consider it.
If so...i will chalk this up to.."lesson learned".

Make her see your point of view? Your very first post in that thread was an extremely aggressive one, and one that called her professionalism as a moderator into question. And yet you say that you were just tryin to make her see your point of view? I find that hard to believe.


The first official warning came when the thread was locked for flamebaiting. You didnt heed that warning as shown by your restarting of your personal attacks in a new thread. Thus deletion.

The first official warning came when the thread was locked for flamebaiting. You didnt heed that warning as shown by your restarting of your personal attacks in a new thread. Thus deletion.

But when the thread was locked, Steph said she wasn't going to give Backwards a warning?



Because I am a mod and the flames were directed at me.. I am going to use my discretion and not give Backwoods squatches a warning.

Yes, but I felt they warranted a warning.

Not only that, but the thread was locked. It's common knowledge that it is unwise to reopen a locked thread.

Yes, but I felt they warranted a warning.

Not only that, but the thread was locked. It's common knowledge that it is unwise to reopen a locked thread.

I totally agree that it's unwise to re-open a locked thread, but the point is, if there was no official warning to Backwards, how could he/she know they only had one more chance?
I'm just asking if a forum ban would have been a less permanent way of responding to the problem (which I have to agree deserved one warning), whilst giving them a chance to cool down?

How about this:

Quit pushing. The nation is not coming back. Period.

How about this:

Quit pushing. The nation is not coming back. Period.

Ok. I'll stop pushing

Make her see your point of view? Your very first post in that thread was an extremely aggressive one, and one that called her professionalism as a moderator into question. And yet you say that you were just tryin to make her see your point of view? I find that hard to believe.


The first official warning came when the thread was locked for flamebaiting. You didnt heed that warning as shown by your restarting of your personal attacks in a new thread. Thus deletion.

But thats just it....

I wasnt trying to personally attack her in the last thread.
It was a thread to see if I had indeed gone too far....thats why I put it in the general forum and not this one..so i could get other posters opinions.
The general consensus was "yes"....and i did point out that it may have been a mistake in the same thread.

I wasnt trying to personally attack her.
I know you dont believe that but its true...

I WAS in fact, calling her post into question...i felt....at the time...that verbally attacking the aunt and uncle of a poster was not something i felt a moderator should do.

In that thread...yes....it did go too far..but again......I realize my mistake.
Was the only option to reprimand me, a full deletion of my nation?
Couldnt a 24 hour forum ban have been done instead?

I dont have a problem with stephanie, or any other mods...
Ive never been warned before.
The nation that was deleted was the delegate of a region.
Until now.....ive been a fairly low key player.

Isnt there another way?

How about this:

Quit pushing. The nation is not coming back. Period.