NationStates Jolt Archive


Deal with Mongoose Spatula?

Spoffin
21-12-2003, 23:50
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105987&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

Please, someone, on grounds of taste and the fact that its pretty insulting to suggest that someone would lie on something this serious.
Myrth
21-12-2003, 23:56
Looks pretty much like flamebait.
He's already been warned for crap like this.
Spoffin
22-12-2003, 00:00
Looks pretty much like flamebait.
He's already been warned for crap like this.It is flamebait, if only because I'm so close to flaming him for it.
Agrigento
22-12-2003, 02:00
I've seen worse. If this was a one time occurance I would say forget about it....warn him and thats it. However I have heard his name mentioned before in unfriendly terms, so that leads me to believe this isn't the only time he has done something like this, in that case, then by all means dispense the adequate mod-prescribed punishment.
Letila
22-12-2003, 02:11
Given his constant racism, I think you should take some action against him. We don't need racist bullies around.

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Myrth
22-12-2003, 02:34
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2417252&highlight=#2417252


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2410532&highlight=#2410532


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2407849&highlight=#2407849
Myrth
26-12-2003, 22:58
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2454508&highlight=#2454508

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2454532&highlight=#2454532
Catholic Europe
26-12-2003, 23:32
Erm, whilst I am no dear friend of Mongoose's (I mean, he was warned by Steph for flaming me) I feel that we are trying to get him for the slightest thing.

His main problem is that he doesn't put what he thinks about people down very well - I perhaps believe what he has said about Danya, but I agree, the way he said it was totally out of order.
The Basenji
26-12-2003, 23:36
Over the Internet, it matters the most how you say something. People can take something you said totally the wrong way. I think he needs to figure out a better way to show how he feels.

I agree with what he says, but not how he says it. This makes a big difference.
26-12-2003, 23:41
Deal with me?

Spoffin, once again you're just upset that someone who doesn't agree with you isn't being censored.

This was between me and that person. I had asked him several times to back up and explain the comments he had made. He kept refusing. When that happens, you naturally suspect that he was perhaps not telling the truth in the first place.

It's all over - his comments lack credibility because of this and I wrote off the idea of getting an explanation out of him.

It's over and done with, that's it.
Catholic Europe
26-12-2003, 23:41
I agree with what he says, but not how he says it.

I agree. That's basically what I was trying to say (although I normally don't agree with him - it's only on this Danya issue that I agree).
THE LOST PLANET
26-12-2003, 23:41
While I am usually at odds with goose and am certainly not his friend, I have to agree with CE and say that I have certainly seen worse on the forums and don't consider the offenses suggested worthy of action beyond warning.
Spoffin
26-12-2003, 23:44
Deal with me?

Spoffin, once again you're just upset that someone who doesn't agree with you isn't being censored.

This was between me and that person. I had asked him several times to back up and explain the comments he had made. He kept refusing. When that happens, you naturally suspect that he was perhaps not telling the truth in the first place.

It's all over - his comments lack credibility because of this and I wrote off the idea of getting an explanation out of him.

It's over and done with, that's it.
No, mongoose, I created this thread a week ago, and not because I disagreed with you, but because I thought you were saying things that were unpleasent enough to need modding. Someone clearly bumped this cos they wanted to add something to your very thick case file.
26-12-2003, 23:46
That's not a warnable offense. If it is, then it shouldn't be.
Catholic Europe
26-12-2003, 23:47
I warned you Mongoose to be careful!
26-12-2003, 23:47
Given his constant racism, I think you should take some action against him. We don't need racist bullies around.

What a load of rubbish.

I don't "bully" anyone. In this instance I was trying to get this person to elaborate on comments he'd made, he refused.

His style of "debate" is very frustrating.

He'll refuse to answer any questions put to him and instead try to change the subject or mock the people asking the questions, to cover up the fact that he hasn't got an answer.

Several other people got annoyed with him because of this, too.

Of course, Spoffin, Myrth, etc, etc, you WOULD be saying "Booo booo big bad Mongoose Spatula" wouldn't you? You simply cannot deal with anyone who doesn't immediately agree with your opinions.

I've just been having quite a heated debate with Catholic Europe. It did get quite heated. *HE* doesn't come running into moderation and go, "Please deal with this baaad man." He gives as good as he gets, and I enjoy debating him because of this. After the debate is over, we're still there chatting quite politely about stuff.

It's a pity more of you can't take a leaf from his book and just DEAL with people you don't agree with instead of whining for them to be DEALT with.
Catholic Europe
26-12-2003, 23:47
That's not a warnable offense. If it is, then it shouldn't be.

It doesn't matter what we think - it's up to the mods to decide.
Catholic Europe
26-12-2003, 23:48
Double post - for some reason, I have no idea why!
26-12-2003, 23:50
Erm, whilst I am no dear friend of Mongoose's (I mean, he was warned by Steph for flaming me) I feel that we are trying to get him for the slightest thing.

This is EXACTLY my point. You are all just sitting there waiting for any possible chance to go running to the Mods in an effort to get rid of me, because you don't agree with my politics or general beliefs.

And I get called a nazi!!!!! :lol:
26-12-2003, 23:52
If anyone should be "dealt with" it should be Gentle Niceness because he keeps flaming and flame baiting.
Spoffin
26-12-2003, 23:52
Of course, Spoffin, Myrth, etc, etc, you WOULD be saying "Booo booo big bad Mongoose Spatula" wouldn't you? You simply cannot deal with anyone who doesn't immediately agree with your opinions.
Just please, please explain how this was anything other than vicious. Explain where this, the only thing that I complained about, had any place in the thread

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Myrth
26-12-2003, 23:52
Flaming is flaming.
Catholic Europe
26-12-2003, 23:53
Erm, whilst I am no dear friend of Mongoose's (I mean, he was warned by Steph for flaming me) I feel that we are trying to get him for the slightest thing.

And I get called a nazi!!!!! :lol:

Well, yes it is quite hypocritical. I, when being flamed etc, warn that person myself, first, if they still continue then I report. I don't do it because of the slightest thing - which is what I feel has been done to you.

But, oh well, the damage is done. It is no longer in our hands, and yet again the mods have to deal with a 'race argument' amongst others.
Spoffin
26-12-2003, 23:53
Flaming is flaming.Damn straight.
26-12-2003, 23:54
If anyone should be "dealt with" it should be Gentle Niceness because he keeps flaming and flame baiting.

He certainly does. All of his posts are designed specifically to goad, and to bait people into getting upset with him.
Myrth
26-12-2003, 23:54
Flaming is flaming.Damn straight.

I can paw through his post history and find another few examples as well.
26-12-2003, 23:55
Wait a minute, this thread is about DANYA???

I already received a warning for that, why are you dredging it up?
26-12-2003, 23:56
Flaming is flaming.Damn straight.

I can paw through his post history and find another few examples as well.

Likewise I can find quite a few examples of flaming/baiting from you in the thread we were talking in earlier.
26-12-2003, 23:56
That's not a warnable offense. If it is, then it shouldn't be.

It doesn't matter what we think - it's up to the mods to decide.
I'm really tired of this. The only reason that certain people are targets more than others and dealt with quicker is because they/we hold more 'radical' 'extreme', to all of you, views. So any small excuse to tattle will do. There is also little balance in the views of the Moderators. :x
Spoffin
26-12-2003, 23:57
Wait a minute, this thread is about DANYA???

I already received a warning for that, why are you dredging it up?Its an old thread, MS, clearly someone added this in the context of your previous offences.
Catholic Europe
26-12-2003, 23:58
I'm really tired of this. The only reason that certain people are targets more than others and dealt with quicker is because they/we hold more 'radical' 'extreme', to all of you, views. So any small excuse to tattle will do. There is also little balance in the views of the Moderators. :x

I hate to play an old record but - if you don't like it, leave
26-12-2003, 23:58
If anyone should be "dealt with" it should be Gentle Niceness because he keeps flaming and flame baiting.

He certainly does. All of his posts are designed specifically to goad, and to bait people into getting upset with him.
Yes, he needs dealt with before anybody else, damnit!
26-12-2003, 23:59
Wait a minute, this thread is about DANYA???

I already received a warning for that, why are you dredging it up?Its an old thread, MS, clearly someone added this in the context of your previous offences.

LOL. I have no idea what's going on here... it's like, everyone has decided, "Let's get Mongoose Spatula."

Lame. :roll:
26-12-2003, 23:59
I'm really tired of this. The only reason that certain people are targets more than others and dealt with quicker is because they/we hold more 'radical' 'extreme', to all of you, views. So any small excuse to tattle will do. There is also little balance in the views of the Moderators. :x

I hate to play an old record but - if you don't like it, leave
Nope.
27-12-2003, 00:01
Looks pretty much like flamebait.
He's already been warned for crap like this.

BTW no I hadn't already been warned for anything, before I received that warning about the Danya thread.
Spoffin
27-12-2003, 00:01
Wait a minute, this thread is about DANYA???

I already received a warning for that, why are you dredging it up?Its an old thread, MS, clearly someone added this in the context of your previous offences.

LOL. I have no idea what's going on here... it's like, everyone has decided, "Let's get Mongoose Spatula."

Lame. :roll:Its an old thread. I posted it for a presvious complaint. Someone remembered it and bumped it with new evidence. You then accused me of getting at you for a bad reason, and I pointed out my previous complaint.
Myrth
27-12-2003, 00:02
Looks pretty much like flamebait.
He's already been warned for crap like this.

BTW no I hadn't already been warned for anything, before I received that warning about the Danya thread.

You were warned for calling CE a '----ing idiot.'
27-12-2003, 00:04
Yes, Spoffin, I was just looking back to see who bumped it.

Myrth, who is upset because I because I got the better of him in an argument earlier this evening, and is now getting his revenge by trying to get me in trouble with the Mods.

:roll:
27-12-2003, 00:05
Looks pretty much like flamebait.
He's already been warned for crap like this.

BTW no I hadn't already been warned for anything, before I received that warning about the Danya thread.

You were warned for calling CE a '----ing idiot.'

No I wasn't, I was warned for saying he "had serious f--- problems."

And I think that was after Danya, wasn't it?

You can't get anything right, Myrth. The only reason you're upset and dredging all this up is because you got shown up for not reading threads properly. Deal with it and move on.
27-12-2003, 00:07
Yes, Spoffin, I was just looking back to see who bumped it.

Myrth, who is upset because I because I got the better of him in an argument earlier this evening, and is now getting his revenge by trying to get me in trouble with the Mods.

:roll:
I think the problem is that Myrth wants to be a Mod. I've seen him here before always making a little comment.
Myrth
27-12-2003, 00:07
Looks pretty much like flamebait.
He's already been warned for crap like this.

BTW no I hadn't already been warned for anything, before I received that warning about the Danya thread.

You were warned for calling CE a '----ing idiot.'

No I wasn't, I was warned for saying he "had serious f--- problems."

And I think that was after Danya, wasn't it?

You can't get anything right, Myrth. The only reason you're upset and dredging all this up is because you got shown up for not reading threads properly. Deal with it and move on.

In that case, you've been warned twice. I can't remember if it was Stephistan or Tactical Grace that warned you about calling CE a '----ing idiot'

Here's another.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2449132&highlight=#2449132
27-12-2003, 00:09
Yes, Spoffin, I was just looking back to see who bumped it.

Myrth, who is upset because I because I got the better of him in an argument earlier this evening, and is now getting his revenge by trying to get me in trouble with the Mods.

:roll:
I think the problem is that Myrth wants to be a Mod. I've seen him here before always making a little comment.

I think all this proves that he should never be made a Mod.
Myrth
27-12-2003, 00:09
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2399649&highlight=#2399649


And another...
27-12-2003, 00:10
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2449132&highlight=#2449132

Where's the flaming in that? Pointing out that someone is talking BS isn't flaming.

If it was, you and everyone else in this thread would be getting warned right now.
27-12-2003, 00:11
Yes, Spoffin, I was just looking back to see who bumped it.

Myrth, who is upset because I because I got the better of him in an argument earlier this evening, and is now getting his revenge by trying to get me in trouble with the Mods.

:roll:
I think the problem is that Myrth wants to be a Mod. I've seen him here before always making a little comment.

I think all this proves that he should never be made a Mod.
So do I. But, he is ever so helpful to them, isn't he? :roll:
27-12-2003, 00:12
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2399649&highlight=#2399649


And another...

In this one, try quoting back some of Spherical Objects comments to me.
Spoffin
27-12-2003, 00:12
In that case, you've been warned twice. I can't remember if it was Stephistan or Tactical Grace that warned you about calling CE a '----ing idiot'

Here's another.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2449132&highlight=#2449132
I don't think "bullsh*t" should be warnable.

(I'm not defending MS, thats just my $0.02)
Myrth
27-12-2003, 00:13
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2392302&highlight=#2392302

Particularly spiteful to Letila.
27-12-2003, 00:15
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2392302&highlight=#2392302

Particularly spiteful to Letila.

That post to Letila may have been fairly aggressively worded, but I didn't flame him in it.

Ho hum... :roll:
27-12-2003, 00:20
If anyone should be "dealt with" it should be Gentle Niceness because he keeps flaming and flame baiting.

He certainly does. All of his posts are designed specifically to goad, and to bait people into getting upset with him.
Yes, he needs dealt with before anybody else, damnit!

Indeed.
27-12-2003, 00:28
Once again, you prove you cannot see things in a wider perspective than your tiny, insignificant outlook.

No. That is what you automatically assume. You know jack shit about how CE really feels. You think you can brand everyone with what your ignorant racist BNP ideology tells you is true. You might as well be living in a sealed box.

It shows the final decay of our imperial ways and that we are willing to embrace other cultures. Unforunately, there are still imbeciles who think they can actually stop the process.

You're not that immune to a bit of heated debate and bit of strong language yourself, are you Myrth?
Agrigento
27-12-2003, 00:31
If you have a problem with another player send it to the mods. Threads like this are nothing more than useless flamebait.
27-12-2003, 00:31
If you have a problem with another player send it to the mods. Threads like this are nothing more than useless flamebait.

Well said.
Spoffin
27-12-2003, 00:34
If you have a problem with another player send it to the mods. Threads like this are nothing more than useless flamebait.This is how you send it to the mods. This is the mod forum, for forum problems that require moderation
Myrth
27-12-2003, 00:38
Once again, you prove you cannot see things in a wider perspective than your tiny, insignificant outlook.

You are one person in a world of 6 billion. Relatively speaking, your outlook is tiny and insignificant. Look at the bigger picture.

No. That is what you automatically assume. You know jack shit about how CE really feels. You think you can brand everyone with what your ignorant racist BNP ideology tells you is true. You might as well be living in a sealed box.

Ignorant:

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

Definition 3 was the applicable one.

You have openly addmited being racist, so you can hardly call that a flame.

It shows the final decay of our imperial ways and that we are willing to embrace other cultures. Unforunately, there are still imbeciles who think they can actually stop the process.

Imbecile:
A stupid or silly person; a dolt.



There. I've backed up my claims. Perhaps if a mod could split this off to General, you could backup yours.
27-12-2003, 00:44
Once again, you prove you cannot see things in a wider perspective than your tiny, insignificant outlook.

You are one person in a world of 6 billion. Relatively speaking, your outlook is tiny and insignificant. Look at the bigger picture.

No. That is what you automatically assume. You know jack shit about how CE really feels. You think you can brand everyone with what your ignorant racist BNP ideology tells you is true. You might as well be living in a sealed box.

Ignorant:

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

Definition 3 was the applicable one.

You have openly addmited being racist, so you can hardly call that a flame.

It shows the final decay of our imperial ways and that we are willing to embrace other cultures. Unforunately, there are still imbeciles who think they can actually stop the process.

Imbecile:
A stupid or silly person; a dolt.



There. I've backed up my claims. Perhaps if a mod could split this off to General, you could backup yours.

I didn't say anything about backing up claims, or post that to have a race debate with you.

I posted it to illustrate that you often get quite heated in debate and use strong and aggressive language yourself, which it did quite nicely.

I have nothing more to say in this thread. :wink:
Agrigento
27-12-2003, 00:59
If you have a problem with another player send it to the mods. Threads like this are nothing more than useless flamebait.This is how you send it to the mods. This is the mod forum, for forum problems that require moderation

This thread is not for the mods, its just debate by the players. Just look who is posting on it...
Spoffin
27-12-2003, 01:21
If you have a problem with another player send it to the mods. Threads like this are nothing more than useless flamebait.This is how you send it to the mods. This is the mod forum, for forum problems that require moderation

This thread is not for the mods, its just debate by the players. Just look who is posting on it...How would you send it to the mods?
Petworthia
27-12-2003, 11:20
Has anyone noticed how the Mods haven't responded to this thread? Perhaps it's because there's nothing here to report and is bordering on becoming a flame war in whaich a LOT of participants could get a warning...

What say we just drop it? :?
Myrth
27-12-2003, 11:23
Has anyone noticed how the Mods haven't responded to this thread? Perhaps it's because there's nothing here to report and is bordering on becoming a flame war in whaich a LOT of participants could get a warning...

What say we just drop it? :?

If you thought that, why even bother to post? You could have just let it stay buried.
Petworthia
27-12-2003, 11:51
Has anyone noticed how the Mods haven't responded to this thread? Perhaps it's because there's nothing here to report and is bordering on becoming a flame war in whaich a LOT of participants could get a warning...

What say we just drop it? :?

If you thought that, why even bother to post? You could have just let it stay buried.

Yeah.. sorry about that, I thought it was more recent than it actually was :oops:
Catholic Europe
27-12-2003, 11:51
Has anyone noticed how the Mods haven't responded to this thread? Perhaps it's because there's nothing here to report and is bordering on becoming a flame war in whaich a LOT of participants could get a warning...

What say we just drop it? :?

If you thought that, why even bother to post? You could have just let it stay buried.

Tha's a very good point, but this forum is run over with people trying and desperately wanting to become mods.
Agrigento
28-12-2003, 05:36
If you have a problem with another player send it to the mods. Threads like this are nothing more than useless flamebait.This is how you send it to the mods. This is the mod forum, for forum problems that require moderation

This thread is not for the mods, its just debate by the players. Just look who is posting on it...How would you send it to the mods?

No, this was the proper way to do. All I am commenting on is the fact that it has deteriorated to this point. Once it passed 2 pages long it outlived its own usefulness.