ham or spam?
Bistmath
13-12-2003, 14:46
need to find spam info fast. where to look?
Bistmath
13-12-2003, 14:52
we're having trouble with a guy and i would love a url i can point him to.
if i'm wrong then i'll go for that as well, but i'm sure salusa warned me for doing the same thing ont he pacific regionals.
Fudgetopia
13-12-2003, 15:09
I'm just about ready to commit a heinous crime in the SP! We really need some help on this spam issue ... is anyone able to help?
Bistmath
14-12-2003, 06:40
gives it a hopeful *bump*
what he was doing was posting the same message every 15 mins. i am looking to see if i can find a url i can point him to when i lose it and tell him to get stuffed.
Unfree People
14-12-2003, 06:46
Uh, all spam should be reported to the Game Mods via the Getting Help Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help), and they'll deal with the nation in question. Although, I see no problems on the SP Civil HQ. If that's not what you need, then I have no idea what you're talking about.
The Basenji
14-12-2003, 06:54
Spam/SPAM: Off-topic, irrelevant and multi-posts that clog the server. This includes posting lots of smilies which is known as Smilie Spam. Also akin to spamming is Post-whoring which is when a player posts anything just to increase the postcount, also known as Normacking. Going in and out of a region and hence filling up the regional events board with departing and arriving messages is known as Events Log Spamming and is not allowed. Spamming to the point where you get deleted is known as Klamathing.
From Siro's Guide to the Language of NationStates (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74603)
Bistmath
14-12-2003, 07:14
we tend to deal with all spam in house. a feeder region is a huge target for spam and this way we deal with 99.9% of it all in our own way. the offender gets 3 warnings and then they get tossed. :D that way we don't bug teh overtired overworkd mods about every 12 year old little turd who thinks its fun to beat up on a feeder.
this case was a little different as it wasn't run of th mill spam. that's why i'm here as the vp of the south pacific region to check with the mods on thier definition of spam. the country in question entered into a dialogue about it and i told him the truth: ' i had been warned by salusa about something similar' he asked for a url thinking the game mods dealt with spam the same way we do. (we have a log of offenders with proof of thier guilt) naturally because the warning had been on the pacific regional board i couldn't give him one. which is why i'm here asking this question. i need to be able to give him a url when i tell him to go stuff himself.
damn none of those really fit what he was doing. thanks basenji.
Bistmath
14-12-2003, 17:44
here is what's being posted at us... it's starting to get to me and i'm going to flame the little so and so..
(hey maybe i should charge him with trolling?)
Regional Happenings
4 minutes ago: The Republic of Collinmassimo2003 departed this region for Veritas
7 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of FOE Recruitment departed this region for The Rejected Realms
8 minutes ago: The Republic of New halo2 departed this region for Cadia
8 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of FOE Recruitment arrived from The North Pacific.
31 minutes ago: The Rogue Nation of Yagax departed this region for Vacilia
32 minutes ago: The Empire of JabberJack departed this region for Land of the Rubbery Clan
32 minutes ago: The Holy Empire of The Will To Power departed this region for Region of the Mentally Insane
55 minutes ago: The Grand Duchy of Moodairia departed this region for The Luna Bin
60 minutes ago: The Grand Duchy of Ivron departed this region for Copyright Conjuction
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23 minutes ago The Republic of Splott Why not. He's not completed his mission. He has yet to burn. Which for the time being makes him a bit of a damp squib.
23 minutes ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario you are so young....
20 minutes ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario splott.... i know this noise.....
8 minutes ago The Democratic Republic of FOE Recruitment Want to be part of a new Democratic region?
Federation Of Earth
The Federation Consists of member states who meet basic democratic criteria.
We are just in the process of founding our new Democracy.
We would be honoured to have you as one of our nations.
When joining you automatically to accept the "Founding Charter Of The Federation Of Earth".
A first draft of the constitution to be can be found at our forum for wich you have to register.
The constitutio nwill have to be accpeted by all the nations but it is still in the process of forming.
Kind Regards,
Federation Of Earth
6 minutes ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath we are a democratic region.
*starts to get hot under th collar*
elections are soon we are looking for candidates. if you want to be in the cabinet, please tg the delegate on the offsite forum and write your speech.
5 minutes ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath CASA WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT MESSAGE AND IF YOU POST IT EVERY FIFTENN MINUTES I WILL HAVE YOU UP ON A SPAM CHARGE SO FAST YOUR TEETH WILL RATTLLE!
4 minutes ago The Insane Nudist Colony of LadyRebels *inserts two pens in nose and headbutts desk*
Casa you really should run for the Craizest Person in the SP :)
2 minutes ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario don't eat leaf....
1 minute ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario Attention Please Attention Please.... MESSAGE for all The Nations of the South Pacific......
Why spend your time for Election of the useless governament???
We are 6557 in The South Pacific and on the forum there are 412 accounts... I have 4 accounts on the forum....
and there are members of other regions and members of Atlantic Alliance....
... So.... (if all the accounts are Nations of The south Pacific!!!!!!) only the 6.283% of the Nations of the South Pacific are on the Forum...
Last election for the vice-president of the South Pacific see vote of 35 Nations/accounts of the forum.... so only 0.533% of The Nations of The South Pacific had voted....
There is The Permanent Council of The South Pacific on the Forumm... "THEY".... are voting for amendments to the "Charter" (???) (do you had voted this Charter???)...... This is an emendment...
" Article 6 - Legislative Power
Any active member of the Region of the South Pacific may propose a bill that they wish to become a law. [These bills will be sent to the Department of the Region, where the Secretary of the Region or an officially designated Undersecretary will select which will be voted on.]*
[...]*=depenned....
now... for this important emendament... had voted only.... 13 Nations/Accounts...
Article 7 - Passing a Bill
The bills submitted to the Council will be voted on by the active population of the region, and will pass from bill to law with a 60% majority after one week's voting time.
Article 10 - Roles of Officials
The Vice President will be responsible for overseeing the voting on any active bill, and the Secretary of Justice will be responsible with the enforcement of the bill after it has become a law.
Now... at this moment... ONLY 13 NATIONS/ACCOUNTS had voted for this resulotion.... 9 for yes and 4 for not...
ON A POPOLATION OF 6557 NATIONS had voted only 13 Nations/Account... HAD VOTED 0.198% NATIONS OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC... and... 0.137% are for this emendament...
D: IS POSSIBLE THAT 9 NATIONS/ACCOUNT CAN DECIDE FOR 6557 NATIONS????
and...
WHAT ELECTORAL SYSTEM ARE USING THIS GOVERNAMENT????
MAJORITY??? PROPORTIONAL???.....
Seconds ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath 50 minutes don't make it better boy!
screen cap taken.
message was posted at 11.18 am est
he had posted it 50 minutes before hand but i dn't have the proof. sorry.
Bistmath
14-12-2003, 18:09
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21 minutes ago: The Holy Republic of The Jackel departed this region for Canada
37 minutes ago: The United States of Soldier Ants departed this region for Soldier Ants
39 minutes ago: The Republic of Johnston5 departed this region for Tjs
42 minutes ago: The Free Land of Siffler departed this region for Wspace
47 minutes ago: The Rogue Nation of Roxyfulness departed this region for Land of the Rubbery Clan
52 minutes ago: The Republic of Collinmassimo2003 departed this region for Veritas
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56 minutes ago: The Democratic Republic of FOE Recruitment arrived from The North Pacific.
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5 minutes ago The Republic of Salubrity What does a bordello have to do with political leadership. Many of us appreciate the time and effort it takes by the few holding office to do the work of maintaining a region. If this region is so against your beliefs...leave. I am not a computer "geek" and I don't know a lot of the ins and outs of these type of games. This is the first one I am trying. My brother Jacksong introduced me to this game as something different for me. I have been here for a little over a month, and I am starting to learn the role playing thing. (Still no clue about most of the shorthand in the writings, but I'll get there). I usually get ten to fifteen minutes a day to play this. That is not enough time to understand the intricate workings of the game, or to even properly hold one of the offices in the region. I am sure that the majority of the "NON VOTING" population of the South Pacific region, or the entire NationStates game community are more like me...limited playing time. I support the office holders we have and appreciate their work and efforts. Sorry for the length of this, but I thought I should say something for us newer players as well as the silent majority.
5 minutes ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath fair enough. she's admin.. can't give it to you. she'd just change it agian.
5 minutes ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario this is the MORE STUPID JUSTIFICATION of this GAME!!!!
3 minutes ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath nope. it's reality baby.
3 minutes ago The Empire of United Typos ooh im over 18, send it to me :D
oh and meh, the regional delegate has the support of the majority and can pretty much do as he pleases. what did ours do? he gave us the power to decide for ourselves by allowing us this form of government. did he have to? no, he could just kick us all out and tell us shush im all powerful.
you take our freedoms for granted, go move to those other regions i wish i only hear of and lets see you last even this long with your misguided activism.
2 minutes ago The Insane Nudist Colony of LadyRebels we know you Casa.......[insert evil laugh here]
2 minutes ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario do you want all the rooms loocked????
http://s1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showforum=57
http://s1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showforum=59
1 minute ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath don't worry about length you should see what he was posting....
a bordello in politics? well if you live in britain.. ;p
if you need help let me know.
Seconds ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario Attention Please Attention Please.... MESSAGE for all The Nations of the South Pacific......
Why spend your time for Election of the useless governament???
We are 6557 in The South Pacific and on the forum there are 412 accounts... I have 4 accounts on the forum....
and there are members of other regions and members of Atlantic Alliance....
... So.... (if all the accounts are Nations of The south Pacific!!!!!!) only the 6.283% of the Nations of the South Pacific are on the Forum...
Last election for the vice-president of the South Pacific see vote of 35 Nations/accounts of the forum.... so only 0.533% of The Nations of The South Pacific had voted....
There is The Permanent Council of The South Pacific on the Forumm... "THEY".... are voting for amendments to the "Charter" (???) (do you had voted this Charter???)...... This is an emendment...
" Article 6 - Legislative Power
Any active member of the Region of the South Pacific may propose a bill that they wish to become a law. [These bills will be sent to the Department of the Region, where the Secretary of the Region or an officially designated Undersecretary will select which will be voted on.]*
[...]*=depenned....
Article 7 - Passing a Bill
The bills submitted to the Council will be voted on by the active population of the region, and will pass from bill to law with a 60% majority after one week's voting time.
Article 10 - Roles of Officials
The Vice President will be responsible for overseeing the voting on any active bill, and the Secretary of Justice will be responsible with the enforcement of the bill after it has become a law.
Now... at this moment... ONLY 13 Nations/Accounts had voted for this resulotion.... 9 for yes and 4 for not...
On a POPOLATION of 6557 Nations had voted only 13 Nations/Account... HAD VOTED 0.198% Nations of The South Pacific... and... 0.137% are for this emendament...
D: IS POSSIBLE that 9 Nations/account CAN DECIDE for 6557 nations????
and...
What ELECTORAL SYSTEM are using this governament???
Majority??? Proportional???.....
Seconds ago The Republic of Salubrity Thanks Bistmath...when I get the chance, I'll telegram you.
this message was at 12.07 pm est.
can i defens/ reply in italian????
Bistmath
14-12-2003, 21:08
must've taor dinenr:
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5 minutes ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath cas posted the same message every fifteen minutes yesterday.. it is at the very least an abuse under the game rules (one i've been warned for myself) it is also considered spam.
he was asked not to do this again. this morning he posted the message every fifty minutes.
this is also spam. especially after he was asked to stop.
it has nothing to do with what he said, more to do with how he dicided to get his point across.
like i said i am mad enought hat i have filed a grivence with the moderators of the game.
4 minutes ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario only becouse i'm against your power...
i'm honoured....
4 minutes ago The Commonwealth of Flip phones who's pilmour?
4 minutes ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath so far as i know the only two people who dont' like the government casa, are you and harkinnen.
i consider all the nations in the south pacific friendly.
3 minutes ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath casa you mistranslated. it has nothing to do with the content of your message, just its repitition every fifty minutes.
for proof you can see what i posted here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103869
2 minutes ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario Politic message aginst the governament.... i know that i have just posted it... but this is for the nations that now are on-line so they can read now!!!!!!
Attention Please Attention Please.... MESSAGE for all The Nations of the South Pacific......
Why spend your time for Election of the useless governament???
We are 6557 in The South Pacific and on the forum there are 412 accounts... I have 4 accounts on the forum....
and there are members of other regions and members of Atlantic Alliance....
... So.... (if all the accounts are Nations of The south Pacific!!!!!!) only the 6.283% of the Nations of the South Pacific are on the Forum...
Last election for the vice-president of the South Pacific see vote of 35 Nations/accounts of the forum.... so only 0.533% of The Nations of The South Pacific had voted....
There is The Permanent Council of The South Pacific on the Forumm... "THEY".... are voting for amendments to the "Charter" (???) (do you had voted this Charter???)...... This is an emendment...
" Article 6 - Legislative Power
Any active member of the Region of the South Pacific may propose a bill that they wish to become a law. [These bills will be sent to the Department of the Region, where the Secretary of the Region or an officially designated Undersecretary will select which will be voted on.]*
[...]*=depenned....
Article 7 - Passing a Bill
The bills submitted to the Council will be voted on by the active population of the region, and will pass from bill to law with a 60% majority after one week's voting time.
Article 10 - Roles of Officials
The Vice President will be responsible for overseeing the voting on any active bill, and the Secretary of Justice will be responsible with the enforcement of the bill after it has become a law.
Now... at this moment... ONLY 13 Nations/Accounts had voted for this resulotion.... 9 for yes and 4 for not...
On a POPOLATION of 6557 Nations had voted only 13 Nations/Account... HAD VOTED 0.198% Nations of The South Pacific... and... 0.137% are for this emendament...
D: IS POSSIBLE that 9 Nations/account CAN DECIDE for 6557 nations????
and...
What ELECTORAL SYSTEM are using this governament???
Majority??? Proportional???.....
I, Skarack, Exalted Champion of Khorne find the inane babbling of The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario amusing to say the least...however, my Master does not.
The Great Lord Khorne requests that you stop your inane babbling before he releases his Beserkers to collect your skull for the Skull Throne!!
Remember, that a day gone by without a death in Khorne's name is a day wasted.
Seconds ago The Empire of United Typos heh go ahead and create a new forum, casa, and govern your nation from there... with your population of casalanarians :P
1 minute ago The Most Serene Hippiedom of Bistmath yep that would be the message... or a small varient.
sets stop watch.
1 minute ago The Commonwealth of Flip phones bistmath a post every fifty minutes to me seems to be more an effor to make an announcement to the region because people sign on at different times. I must disagree that saying something at the rate of about once an hour on a message board of this nature qualifies as spam. Furthermore any attempt at ejection warrants a trial at least.
1 minute ago The Sun Great Empire of Casalanario the last part are offensive messsage against the population of my nation.....
Seconds ago The Republic of Libertarius Legalize it!!!!
Bistmath
14-12-2003, 21:19
bene... Il primo fine di questo gioco è fare politica... ora è possibile fare politica senza far sì che il propio messaggio venga letto da tutti???
Forse ho esagerato nel replicare più di una volta lo stesso messaggio ma esso non insulso e non conteneva messaggi volgari e scurrili e offensivi, ma faceva notare, solo un modo di essere contro la politica di un gruppo di nazioni della mia regione... e dato che questo è il gruppo dominante il mio messaggio veniva continuamente cancellato da nuovi... come potevo far leggere il mio messaggio alle nazioni da poco connesse senza che lo postassi di continuo????
Fudgetopia
14-12-2003, 23:39
well... The first aim of this game is to make politics... How is it possible to make political statements without making the message available to all, so that it is read by all all? Perhaps I have exaggerated in replying more than once by posting the same message but it is not dull and it did not contain gross, nasty or offensive messages , but it pointed out, only a way to be against politics of a group of nations of my region... and since this is the dominant group my message came to be continuously cancelled from when I posted it... How I could make my message available to the little connected nations from without continually posting.?
Fudgetopia
15-12-2003, 00:50
Just thought you may want to see the translation for that - but my italian is WAY rusty ...