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A senstive issue...

Mendanau
28-11-2003, 21:17
When I arrived in Oceania months ago as an Ambassador from the O.S.A., there were three nations residing there. I talked with those three about a plan I had in mind and they agreed to let me help them make the region grow and prosper. So I went to work recruiting.

We had perhaps 17 nations residing within the borders of Oceania when the Empire of power decided to try and invade us, for what they claimed as "not a griefing mission, but to help the region by putting an active delegate in place." Since the EofP has a history of questionable activity, Oceania and it's allies repelled this invasion before it really had a chance to get on it's feet.

Oceania lived in peace for several months and slowly grew to 35 or so nations. A few weeks ago, the Atlantic Alliance decided to use Oceania as a platform for their wargames training exercises. I knew it was coming, but failed to respond quickly enough and within a day, they had taken control of Oceania and ejected a few OSA agents who were residing there.

The A.A.-Oceania rift was sort of a way to get me out of the organization, as the A.A. Minister of Intelligence believed I was a spy. I quit, brokered a peace deal with the A.A. Supreme Commander and all A.A. forces withdrew from the region.

During the occupation, Oceania's former delegate had decided to persue other ventures. I was able to replace him and had a plan to continue Oceania's growth in peace. For the last few days of my delegacy, I had the region password-protected, as the A.A. and A.D.N. were playing cat-and-mouse games and I didn't want the region involved in any of that.

Being the person that I am, I allowed a few new outside nations access to the password and was planning on lifting it within a day or so after receiving word that Oceania would not be privvy to another invasion/occupation/training exercise from the A.A. Well, the few new nations I allowed in, from what I can gather, were from Air Force One.

I awoke the other morning to find that I had lost the delegate seat. When I asked Scilly Islands what he had planned for the region, I was promptly ejected from Oceania, and a new password was set in place. Within the last day, numerous nations have been ejected from Oceania. The password has been lifted and replaced and lifted again and I just found out I have been removed from the ban list.

Scilly Islands and his minions believed that I and others were East Asian spies who needed to be stopped, and this was their claim for invading Oceania. While in power, Scilly Islands ejected two nations per day because of this paranoia, while moving other nations who backed his warped logic in. I noticed this morning that he and several of his minions were banned by Jumangka, who was the nation who initiated this period of chaos and disorder.

Anyway, I will reclaim Oceania and restore peace to the region. I do have some questions though... Like, since I have been a longtime resident, and if I am made delegate again, how many nations can I eject from the region? I have a list of eight invader nations who I feel represent a immediate threat to Oceania as long as they reside there. Since that region was born before the founder status was set in place, it has always been vulnerable. It will continue to be so, but a little less with these nations out.

I appreciate the help, as I do not want to do anything to jeapordize my retaking of Oceania. Thank you.
Spoffin
28-11-2003, 21:28
Good luck with this. I've been waiting a week for an answer to my own thread about ejecting people from my region. The backlog of work for the mods must be vast.

Just in case someone does stop by: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95605
28-11-2003, 21:29
I assure you that the Atlantic Alliance has nothing to do with the second invasion. The first was just a test, that you failed miserably.
Mendanau
28-11-2003, 21:45
Yes Fisz, I know the Atlantic Alliance has nothing to do with this new threat. Sources say have the invader nations were once part of Air Strip One, a known region crashing organization. The A.A.'s success in Oceania is questionable indeed. But I will not proceed with another debate on how your high command acted toward a fellow member of the A.A. and how you took the region when it was least able to properly defend itself.

How'd it feel to lose China though?
Neutered Sputniks
28-11-2003, 21:45
As delegate, you are allowed to eject all invaders, but are severly limited on the number of natives allowed to be ejected.
Spoffin
28-11-2003, 21:48
Neut, hey, thanks for replying to my thread, but I still have a question. If theres about ONE person left in my region, am I allowed to eject them as I normally would be able to if it was a large region?
Neutered Sputniks
28-11-2003, 21:50
No
Mendanau
28-11-2003, 21:51
This is the list of invader nations who I will eject:

The Insane Island of MoonSun
The Republic of Pac Man on Crack
The Happy Place of Happyplace
The Imposing Might of Great Newington Butts
The Mods Worst Nightmare of Nothingg
The Dictatorship of NineteenEightyFour
The Nhanyanyja Thuthunha of Jumangku
The Oppressed Peoples of Shutthehellup
The Armed Republic of Machinegunland

Note: None of these nations can be considered natives.
Spoffin
28-11-2003, 22:02
NoIs that because its about the percentage of nations ejected rather than the actual number?
Malajhaliza
28-11-2003, 22:45
Mendanau if you need some endorsements to become delegate I would be glad to help telegram me if you need me to come endorse you so you can recliam your region.
Steel Butterfly
28-11-2003, 22:49
NoIs that because its about the percentage of nations ejected rather than the actual number?

Yeah...Neut that's kinda strange...
28-11-2003, 22:53
NoIs that because its about the percentage of nations ejected rather than the actual number?

My guess is, that it's the percentage, because the nations who left voluntarily are no longer considered native, when out of the region. My bet is, that the bloodpressure of Neut is rising, because you are pushing the issue :P
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Nothingg
28-11-2003, 22:57
Nice job embelishing the story to fit your side, but I think you should leave the fiction writing to Max.
Mendanau
28-11-2003, 23:09
No embelishment needed. The truth is far more potent Nothingg. :twisted:
Tactical Grace
28-11-2003, 23:24
Guys, could you please leave your regional politics out of this? There is a procedural question being asked here. Arguing over who won a possibly inconclusive war is only going to dilute the relevant stuff.

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TROUSRS
28-11-2003, 23:28
Passwording a region without letting all the members in that region know about it is illicit. Go to the Getting Help (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) page and report this inncident.

If you want, I have some friends that will help you get the region back without reporting it. I will send in a spy to get the password and then have our horde move in, endorse my UN nation, boot the invaders, and then give you control. Telegram me for more info.
Spoffin
29-11-2003, 00:56
NoIs that because its about the percentage of nations ejected rather than the actual number?

My guess is, that it's the percentage, because the nations who left voluntarily are no longer considered native, when out of the region. That makes more sense than just a set number, but it still leaves it open to abuse. You could fill the region with puppets, slowly eject other people (staying below the %) until you have a region with nothing but you and your puppets (and a friend who's endorsed you), then move all of them out in one go. This would clearly go against the spirit of the rules, but would (sort of) be within the letter of the law.
Neutered Sputniks
29-11-2003, 02:26
Not really, we're talking natives here. If you move a number of puppets in, eject the natives, password the region and then leave - it is region crashing, no?

And, no, my blood pressure's not rising. I just saw no need to embellish on my response.
Spoffin
29-11-2003, 03:03
Not really, we're talking natives here. If you move a number of puppets in, eject the natives, password the region and then leave - it is region crashing, no?
Erm... in a sense... not really if you're a long term resident (native) whos become delegate (like in my case). Its not region crashing exactly cos you're not invading from another region.

I dunno, maybe it is the same thing.