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I am posting this as Region founder for my Region, and at the suggestion of Game Mod "Enodia." Enodia has isolated the IP address on this repeat griefer, and I'd llike to request that this guy get IP-banned, for multiple repeat offenses of griefing, and being a posteriror pain.

He has carried on a vendetta aginst myself and a couple of other Region Founders for nearly a year now. He has come under various names and nations, among them "The Incorporated States of Hating" "Antoine Walker" "K i d R o c k" and, most recently, "The Deliverance." There have been other incarnations, including "Rod Smart."

Nuking the guy's nation seems to do no good, he just creates another one, and comes back to harrass once again. I am hereby formally requesting this guy be IP-banned for numerous repeat offenses. Enodia and other Mods are very well familiar with the situation and ongoing battle we have had with this individual. Additionally, other members of my Region may come here to add their comments.

I'll thank in advance any Mod or violet who can take care of this situation once and for all. I have had it with ejecting and banning this guy, only to have him create another nation, and come right back three days later.

I'll thank in advance any Mod or violet who can take care of this situation once and for all.

[reploidproductions] can IP ban someone from the forums. Only [violet] can IP ban someone from the entire site.

Your request will be passed along to [violet].

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
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Password protect your region if he keeps coming back. Sorry if that's all the advice I can give you, I'm not a mod nor an admin.

Password protect your region if he keeps coming back. Sorry if that's all the advice I can give you, I'm not a mod nor an admin.

Password protect is no good. First, it impedes growth of the Region. Second, the moron can pretend to be a nice guy, get the password, and still come in. Thanks, but that is not a viable solution in this matter. the only viable solution, as I see it, is for this guy to be IP-banned from the entire site.

This guy is a multiple offender, I can name at least eight incarnations of this guy. He just simply needs to be dealt with.

Lab's right. I've seen several versions of this goon. Like Enodia, I support an IP ban.

Thanks, Hack...the more support I get, the more likely this is to get dealt with. I hate to have to resort to this, but, you know...it isn't like this guy hasn't been repeatedly warned to leave me and others alone.

Some people, apparently, just do not have the class to not hang where they aren't wanted. And some people just need to get a life. I cracked up the time one of his friends, or possible incarnations as a puppet, by the name of Il Brutto told ME to get a life, while engaged in the continual griefing of my and other Regions...where they aren't wanted. And they tell ME to get a life. It was actually rather funny.

No, this guy just needs to be dealt with. He has had enough warnings, and enough chances to just leave me and other Regions that do not want him ALONE. I'm all for people being able to play this game, no matter what their ideology may be, etc, etc...but, I'm not in favor of allowing a guy to carry on a year-long vendetta against someone, merely because they disagree ideologically...or because they are just plain stupid.

Il Brutto was the same guy as the others, Lab. Just for future reference, whatever good it may do.

Thanks, Enodia. I thought so, about Il Brutto, but I wasn't sure...as impossible as it seems, the moron has to have a friend or two...so I wasn't sure if Il Brutto was a puppet or a friend.

Just out of curiosity, how many incarnations has this guy had (either known or suspected)? I ask partly to bump the thread and partly because my own recollection is a bit hazy, given the number of nations I deal with as a mod.

If this player has had a half dozen nations or more banned for being a greifer, I can't see why he does not deserve this. It does not seem that he takes each deletion as a chance to review how he is playing the game, and does not seem he is growing as a player to provide any real positive effect to the game.


The game is a priveldge (hard to believe some days perhaps), but it is. He has broken rules repatidly. That seems know. The question I have, what has he done to earn this priveldge?

Just out of curiosity, how many incarnations has this guy had (either known or suspected)? I ask partly to bump the thread and partly because my own recollection is a bit hazy, given the number of nations I deal with as a mod.

I could name about eight, at least, given time to think about it a bit. I can come up with six off the top of my head.
Hating
Antoine Walker
Rod Smart
Il Brutto
K i d R o c k
The Deliverance

there's six that we know of for sure.
wait a min...I forgot HeHateMeX. There's seven.

First of all you have no proof to logically ip ban this nation. You could have a school class on your ass that doesnt like you. to bring it to that point. NOONE GOES AROUND AND DOES STUPID THINGS TO YOU FOR NOTHING. You had to of done somthing extremly stupid in this situation and I say you should just have a nice chat wit this dude. Invite him in, become freinds and mabey you can make some new allies.. who knows. You shouldnt result to IP Banning EVER!. Though it is the right that a mid has.... i guess.

First of all you have no proof to logically ip ban this nation. You could have a school class on your ass that doesnt like you. to bring it to that point. NOONE GOES AROUND AND DOES STUPID THINGS TO YOU FOR NOTHING. You had to of done somthing extremly stupid in this situation and I say you should just have a nice chat wit this dude. Invite him in, become freinds and mabey you can make some new allies.. who knows. You shouldnt result to IP Banning EVER!. Though it is the right that a mid has.... i guess.

No. you are mistaken. No one has a right to continually grief another player, especially after having recieved several previous warnings to simply leave someone alone when that person's presence is not wanted.

In this case...this person comes on our boards, (public forums) and posts profanity and other junk and then leaves before I can eject and ban him. If I ever am successful at ejecting and banning, he just creates another puppet nation, and comes back to do it again.

If I get his nation deleted, he is undaunted, he creates yet another nation, and carries on doing the same thing...despite numerous warnings. This is a situation that has been ongoing almost from day one of this game's very existence, and it is time this guy was dealt with permanently.

It is a privilege, not a right, to play this game. And it is not a right of anyone to continue carrying out a stupid vendetta for over a year, and harrassing, griefing, and spamming Regional Boards, etc. There comes a point where you finally say, look...this guy is a dedicated griefer...he has shown no willingness or desire to do anything other than harrass, and this is taking away from other people's enjoyment of the game.

He has received numerous warnings, and had several nations deleted for this misconduct already. He has shown no attempt, whatsoever, to improve his inappropriate behavior. It comes down to a point where one must finally say "Enough!" This guy is never going to change, he has proven this. How many chances do we give the guy? I, off the top of my head, have named seven chances this guy has gotten. I don't think we even gave Daryl Strawberry THAT MANY chances!!

Oh, and in looking at your nation Anstinon, couldn't help but notice you came to your current region from the Rejected Realms...a known hotbed of griefers and others who like to invade, harrass, and cause problems. And the Region which you are now located in, Fortress Harkinnen, your public board was "security cleared" recently, indicating you are a region of region-crashers and griefers yourself...so your opinion has that much less credibility in my eyes, and probably most others who look at this ongoing problem in an objective manner.

First of all you have no proof to logically ip ban this nation. You could have a school class on your ass that doesnt like you. to bring it to that point. NOONE GOES AROUND AND DOES STUPID THINGS TO YOU FOR NOTHING. You had to of done somthing extremly stupid in this situation and I say you should just have a nice chat wit this dude. Invite him in, become freinds and mabey you can make some new allies.. who knows. You shouldnt result to IP Banning EVER!. Though it is the right that a mid has.... i guess.
If it is a school class, which I know as a mod and as a region-mate of Labrador's that it isn't, then the entire class needs a good talking-to. It might sound insanely authoritarian of me, but there's something to be said for having a policy of "We will IP ban you for doing this - whether you're a private individual or an entire company."

Was one of his incarnations INGS0C? Or is this a different guy?

The name doesn't ring any bells with me, Qaa. Anyone else able to shed light on a link between INGS0C and "our friend", if there is one?

i know ings0c, he was also anarchic squirrels (1-3) and moonsun

but i don't know these nations..

NOONE GOES AROUND AND DOES STUPID THINGS TO YOU FOR NOTHING.

LOL. spoken like someone who's never lived int he pacific's for very long. if you have, you haven't been paying much attention. people do awful stupid things every day around there. little god mods with thier 20 elven archers.

to proveit's the same person, in the south pacific, we look at content, voice, recurring typos. you can prove it's the same person if you work hard enough. then you got to the mods and ask. (they can see the ip's of all who play.)

you said he's launching a vendetta against you is there a reason for this or is it just spite?

First of all you have no proof to logically ip ban this nation. You could have a school class on your ass that doesnt like you. to bring it to that point. NOONE GOES AROUND AND DOES STUPID THINGS TO YOU FOR NOTHING. You had to of done somthing extremly stupid in this situation and I say you should just have a nice chat wit this dude. Invite him in, become freinds and mabey you can make some new allies.. who knows. You shouldnt result to IP Banning EVER!. Though it is the right that a mid has.... i guess.

I wouldn't put to much stock into what Anstinon has to say here people. In fact I'd completely ignore it given the stunt she/he tried to pull last night on the forum and was busted. This person does not know what they are talking about. Perhaps you should stay out of this situation Anstinon

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96851

Page 3 is very interesting.. note Salusa's posts. ;)

Stephanie
Forum Mod

The name doesn't ring any bells with me, Qaa. Anyone else able to shed light on a link between INGS0C and "our friend", if there is one?
He was back around late July-early August starting a bunch of threads about "region crashing" (the things that he claimed that he did made it clear that he was a griefer).

One was a much angrier version of Acks thread asking id crashers were encouraged to leave the game, another was demanding that founders be removed, and when nothing happened he yelled at the mods for being lazy. I recall that I really ticked him off, at the time I was a founder and not delegate (I wonder if invoking his named caused me to lose delegacy today :P ) anywhen he wrote like:


THE MODS MUST BAN FOUNDWERS
THERE EVIOL AND RUIND THE GAME
GET RID OF THEM
LAZY MODS
or something like that if I recall correctly.

Ineptia quoted one of my posts and said "Well said my friend" and after that he started another thread or two(seeing as that one was a lost cause) and then stopped posting.

He claimed to be a March player(that incarnation was mid-July), who was twice "unfairly deleted" for "legal region crashing" of course when I reflect on some of the things that he said to me (although I admit, my tone was a bit smug), I wonder if his past incarnations were not zapped for flaming.

He sounds like a completely different sort of person to this guy. The one Labs was talking about just comes into regions and abuses people - no hint of crashing or multi-ing.

Ahh.
'K.