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Founder of Germany

Kaiser Wilhelm II
20-11-2003, 04:47
To whomever it might concern,

After being urged by literally dozens of nations (in and out of Germany) I have finally come to request that I be made Founder of the region of Germany. The current founder is by the name of Reichsprotektor, a rather inactive nation that has systematically managed to displease practically everybody in the region.

I have been in Germany far longer than Reichsprotektor, initially as the nation The Rheinland and then as Kaiser Wilhelm II. For as long as I can recall the support for me in Germany has been overwhelming. Germany, as a region, and our Allies, feel very strongly that Reichsprotektor does not deserve the position as Founder.

For a very long time I was merely flattered by the volume of telegrams and messages from people telling me to petition the mods for Foundership, and only now have I given in to their requests and ask that I be made Founder of Germany in the stead of Reichsprotektor.

No matter the result I do thank you for taking the time to accomodate me, it is always very much appreciated.

Respectfully,

His Imperial Majesty Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany
20-11-2003, 04:52
I agree, after seeing what reichsprotector did to poor italy, he booted all the nations out, over 70 of them and then destroyed it the other month, he doesnt deserve germany.

He stole germany's foundership from Kaiser, let's hope the mods do the right thing and give it to it's rightful owner, Kaiser wilhelm II.

Cheers,
FE

To whomever it might concern,

After being urged by literally dozens of nations (in and out of Germany) I have finally come to request that I be made Founder of the region of Germany. The current founder is by the name of Reichsprotektor, a rather inactive nation that has systematically managed to displease practically everybody in the region.

I have been in Germany far longer than Reichsprotektor, initially as the nation The Rheinland and then as Kaiser Wilhelm II. For as long as I can recall the support for me in Germany has been overwhelming. Germany, as a region, and our Allies, feel very strongly that Reichsprotektor does not deserve the position as Founder.

For a very long time I was merely flattered by the volume of telegrams and messages from people telling me to petition the mods for Foundership, and only now have I given in to their requests and ask that I be made Founder of Germany in the stead of Reichsprotektor.

No matter the result I do thank you for taking the time to accomodate me, it is always very much appreciated.

Respectfully,

His Imperial Majesty Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany
20-11-2003, 04:54
Most Recent Government Activity: 8 hours ago

He's not that unactive, but I supose you are more. I'd vote for you.
Kaiser Wilhelm II
20-11-2003, 05:02
To be fair to Reichsprotektor, he is not a terribly bad person. He is just unsuitable to be Founder in the eyes of the vast majority of German nations. He's also inactive for 2 to 4 days at a time, makes a comment or sends a telegram or two, and is inactive again for days while turmoil goes on about him. A new Founder at any rate is desperately needed. Whether it's me or somebody else, Reichsprotektor has got to go, for Germany's sake.
RedCommunist
20-11-2003, 05:15
keep in mind the real founder of Germany has been talking about starting to play NS again. Maybe Germany shouldn't have a founder until he gets back, but Der seems to be doing a good job, and you seem to be doing a good job as delegate also.
20-11-2003, 05:16
Agreed, the guy also doesn't even give you delegate access! He keeps all control to himself when he knows its rightfully your region, it just isn't right. The sooner a new founder is appointed the better, you deserve this Kaiser.

To be fair to Reichsprotektor, he is not a terribly bad person. He is just unsuitable to be Founder in the eyes of the vast majority of German nations. He's also inactive for 2 to 4 days at a time, makes a comment or sends a telegram or two, and is inactive again for days while turmoil goes on about him. A new Founder at any rate is desperately needed. Whether it's me or somebody else, Reichsprotektor has got to go, for Germany's sake.
Neutered Sputniks
20-11-2003, 05:17
Unfortunately, no more Founder requests are being honored. Founder is not an elected position. If the other nations of your region desire you to be founder, Kaiser Wilhelm II, create a new region.
Bistmath
20-11-2003, 05:28
why the policy change?
20-11-2003, 05:29
Hmm weird why's this and since when? In special circumstances like this they should be honored. That would be terrible if this were really true and no one had any recourse anymore.


Unfortunately, no more Founder requests are being honored. Founder is not an elected position. If the other nations of your region desire you to be founder, Kaiser Wilhelm II, create a new region.
Neutered Sputniks
20-11-2003, 05:34
The policy change is due to the length of time available for Nations to request foundership status.

Kaiser, you admit that you did not create the region, thus you will not be appointed founder. Quite simple, and was in fact the original stipulation.
1 Infinite Loop
20-11-2003, 05:36
Hey Neut, perhaps a Sticky is in order telling folks that no more founders will be apointed.
20-11-2003, 05:46
??? That doesn't really make sense, reichs was not the founder either -- and kaiser was there first and asked to be the founder first but some reason perhaps a mod is reichs friend he was made founder.

This should be rectified and Kaiser be made founder.

FE

The policy change is due to the length of time available for Nations to request foundership status.

Kaiser, you admit that you did not create the region, thus you will not be appointed founder. Quite simple, and was in fact the original stipulation.
20-11-2003, 06:16
Setiing Reichsprotektor as founder was always a controversial thing. Many nations stopped playing NationStates, they were so disapointed at his foundership. Replacing founder will only erase the mistake done in the past. Yes! It was a mistake.
20-11-2003, 06:18
Not to mention he is also founder in Deutschland, giving no choice to the german Volk.
20-11-2003, 06:31
yeah you guys are 100 percent right, does reichs have a mod friend or something? He was given foundership to all these regions that weren't even his and he wasn't even in! like germany and italy, when he had italy as founder he booted everyone out and destroyed it. italy is only now getting back on its feet.

It's just not right that he's founder of Germany, the mods really need to look at this.
Nothingg
20-11-2003, 07:14
Unfortunately, no more Founder requests are being honored. Founder is not an elected position. If the other nations of your region desire you to be founder, Kaiser Wilhelm II, create a new region.

I think your question has been answered.
Artanitis
20-11-2003, 07:48
I support Kaiser Wilhelm II's desire to be proclaimed the founder of Germany
The Great Thesisme
20-11-2003, 07:52
Kaiser Wilhelm II is the rightful leader of Germany.

~The Great Thesisme
Neutered Sputniks
20-11-2003, 07:54
Why are you people continuing this? You've been given an answer and a solution.
Kaiser Wilhelm II
20-11-2003, 08:36
Why are you people continuing this? You've been given an answer and a solution.

Quite right.

Although I am honored and flattered at this show of support, the word of the Mods must be obeyed.

For all German nations who have been alienated from Germany and Deutschland by Herr Reichsprotektor, you are invited to the new region Deutsches Kaiserreich.

I have taken our friendly Mod's advice and started my own region (although admittedly only after Reichsprotektor ejected me from Germany). I have little doubts that great numbers shall follow me to Deutsches Kaiserreich, as I've created quite a following over my time as delegate in Germany.

I also thank Neutered for taking the time to address this. It is, as always, very appreciated.

-Kw.II
20-11-2003, 08:56
OYE now Kaiser was kicked out by that insane reichsprotecktor who declared a nazi-esque 1000 day reich.

Nice work yet again mods! Great stuff as usual.
Neutered Sputniks
20-11-2003, 08:59
Thanks for the compliment!

It's nice to know our hard work upholding the rules is not lost on everyone :)
Stahl
20-11-2003, 10:54
Re: Germany and the Reichsprotektor

The Reichsprotektor is a inept founder who, whilst most of the time is doing almost nothing, is changing Germany into a crazed dictatorship where peace, prosperity and happiness will no longer be.

Let the Mods do the right thing, make KWII the Founder. He carries with him the hopes and dreams of the entire German nations and he cares for his people greatly.

Please don't let Germany flounder under the founder, reichsprotektor!

Heil Kaiser Wilhelm II
Ackbar
20-11-2003, 15:06
Though I don't agree with the other thread's purpose, suprised that this thread http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94475 gets locked (it was a discussion about Francos and whether he was following the rules-- which I think he is), it was a thread where discussion was possible whether the topic is old or not, yet this thread where it is a mod request that has been stated 100 times will not be done stays open.

I'm not for locking all threads, as you know. But if a thread that is trying to discuss something that is old and tired and been discussed before is locked, shouldn't this be as well. OR rather, shouldn't it have been locked before discussion even ensued?


*Anticipates being called anti-mod, depsite the contrary being true*

Simply asking the question.
Myrth
20-11-2003, 15:07
If there is already a Founder, then technically he owns the region and can do whatever he likes with it.
Nothingg
20-11-2003, 15:28
<snip>
The Reichsprotektor ....... is changing Germany into a crazed dictatorship where peace, prosperity and happiness will no longer be.



Hmmmmmmmm, kinda sounds like he's copying real German history.
Der Reichsprotektor
20-11-2003, 17:58
I believe it was the Kaiser, through the force of his own personality and his friends, that attempted to usurp power. Thanks be to Mods.
20-11-2003, 18:13
I believe it was the Kaiser, through the force of his own personality and his friends, that attempted to usurp power. Thanks be to Mods.Nazi coon!
20-11-2003, 23:16
It's nice to know that Justice to certain mods means the opposite, seems like the mods change the "rules" whenever they feel like to suit their needs at the moment.

This is not the first time nor will it be the last that certain mods have decided to make the wrong decision, for no logical reason.

When the right decisions start to get made then people will have more faith in the mods, I certainly used, until 5 or 6 months ago when this type of insanity started.

FE


Thanks for the compliment!

It's nice to know our hard work upholding the rules is not lost on everyone :)
Scolopendra
20-11-2003, 23:32
FE, no matter what we do, people will complain.

How I see it, the original claimant, Kw.II, has moved on. He's adapted to our injustice and evil evil evil mod ways. I don't see an issue here anymore.

--Scolo
Neutered Sputniks
21-11-2003, 01:14
And, as a side note, perhaps if the image of the mods being wishy washy exists it's really a good indication that we enforce the rules the same, no matter who is complaining...just a thought.