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The Region of F.G.L. is a very active one and has noticed that the Regional Notice Board is kinda short! So......
I've opened up this thread to see if the other members can find their way here to discuss the problem!
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Modalert :arrow: Tech

I wouldn't expect to see this any time soon (though it's possible). Just how much longer do you propose it should be, btw?

Greetings Naleth!

The problem, as expressed to me by the nations of our new region, is that on any given day (we're a pretty vocal group) 75% of our internal debates are lost (erased) before others, worldwide time zones etc., have a chance to read them. :?
We don't want to cause any waves here so I thought I'd just experiment with the layout, so to speak, before inviting more or our friends in the Feldgrau Military Discussion Forum to come over here for lessons in how the United Nations, and nations in general, should be run.

Our best regards and appologies if we've offended!

No problems with offending or anything, its just that this is a game mechaincs issue, not an 'issues' issue :wink:

Also, if you are having problems loosing old information, you may want to consider getting an offsite forum (or just using this one if you don't mind other people commenting). Invision is the most often recomended free board service.

Dear Naleth:
NO! We don't mind others commenting!
It's the only way for us to learn the correct procedures etc. here at Nation States!
Would it be OK to run this thread for awhile until I get the others familiar with their way around this H U G E (I thought Feldgrau with 2,000+ members was big!) and complex site?? :oops:
As the founder of our region I've been trying to point them in the right direction but some of my suggestions are getting lost in the first :roll: flood of enthusiasm!! :roll:
GOD THIS PLACE IS BIG!

Our very best regards to the admin!

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I welcome the comments of non-Feldgraulandsers to our discussions.

Sergei Slimey

Public Relations Officer, New Squigland President's Office

My new flag is causing problems in Titsaplenty. It seems that when the National anthem is finished, everyone is still looking at the flag and there have been terrible accidents involving marching troops saluting the flag and then wandering off into traffic etc.

Still, it's quite pleasant to look at. :lol:

If you have not already done so, I strongly recommend that you file a Getting Help (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) report immeditately asking if your flag is within NS rules. I'm not sure what precise criteria the Game Mods are using for determining offensive flags, but it is possible that your flag will be forcibly removed and that you will be issued an official warning.

Come to think of it, I suggest you remove your flag now and just send the URL for the flag image in the Getting Help (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) report asking "Is this okay for a flag?"

Come to think of it, your very national name is probably in violation of NationStates rules. Since it's almost impossible to change national names, your entire nation may be deleted.

I'll have to check with a Game Mod.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Forum Moderator

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unfortunately, "Titsaplenty", while you may not find your name and flag to be offensive, under the rules, and TAC of this site, I'd preferably think your nation name, and flag, are offensive. I'd suggest you to create a new nation, your current one [most likely] is in violation of rules and will be dealt with accordingly.
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Feel free to tell me that you don't like my flag etc etc, but don't tell me what to do in a make believe fantasy world.

There are too many people here that have lived under the vacuous umbrella of MTV, CNN, Pay TV and Hollywood for so long that they no longer realise that there are more important things going on in the world and their lives than what they see on the TV or computer monitor in front of them!

Making fun of the fact that we don't get out much is not a good way to make friends in NS-land.

Personally, I would say that this flag is in violation of NationStates policies.

I find it perfectly hypocritical that the moderators of this site have a problem with a picture of clothed breasts but allow the membership to natter on about war, weapons and very real historically evil institutions such as slavery.
Violence, it seems, is perfectly acceptable--in any variety of technlogical forms--but an inoffensive picture is the subject of condemnation?
Would "Titsaplenty" receive any attention if it were named "Bombsaplenty" and the flag were a mushrooming explosion?
I doubt it.
But, as far as I know, no one on this earth has ever been incinerated, irradiated, torn to pieces or disintegrated by a pair of covered breasts.

Cheers, Klaus

I find it perfectly hypocritical that the moderators of this site have a problem with a picture of clothed breasts but allow the membership to natter on about war, weapons and very real historically evil institutions such as slavery.
This is a nation RP. You'd expect there to be war and the sort, wouldn't you?
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I find it perfectly hypocritical that the moderators of this site have a problem with a picture of clothed breasts but allow the membership to natter on about war, weapons and very real historically evil institutions such as slavery.
This is a nation RP. You'd expect there to be war and the sort, wouldn't you?

<---- notes that Ost Perversia has probably never heard of the Amerigan Slave War

This is a nation RP. You'd expect there to be war and the sort, wouldn't you?

Well, logic tells me that if these are nations, they have to have females.
I assume that they normally wear clothes, therefore, nothing that appears on "Titsaplenty"'s flag should shock you.

<---- notes that Ost Perversia has probably never heard of the Amerigan Slave War

What could you possibly tell me about African-American history that I don't know?
Some of us don't find posts like "Slaveowners Unite!" funny in the least.
Some of us don't find war a matter of adolescent amusement.
And it's Ameri"c"an not Amerigan.

But the real point is that this Board tolerates massive amounts of pretend violence and imaginary weapons but appears strangely prudish when it comes to a hint of sex. Let me guess, the average demographic of this Board's users is age 13 1/2?

Cheers, Klaus

And it's Ameri"c"an not Amerigan.

No, it's Amerigan. You know, beginning with the Syskeyian blockade of Amerigo?

*sigh* Well, you probably have never heard of either Syskeyia or Amerigo. So >clicky-clicky! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30536)<

EDIT: MODALERT :arrow: Moderation

Whatever.

It might help the conversation if you would stay in reality for two consecutive posts.

Cheers, Klaus

This is a game where people RP being countries. Both here and in RL, countries do bad things. If you don't like it, it's time to stop trying to get mod action and start RPing against them. For instance, the UN passed a resolution banning slavery. Furthermore, there are alliances (such as the UNAOTO, which I am a member of) that try to stop slave nations. Example: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93678

Again, the point is that RP war is tolerated and supported. Real war kills. A picture of a woman's covered breasts doesn't harm anyone, either in RP or RL.
Seems like people are overly sensitive to the wrong things.

Cheers,
Klaus

MODALERT so we can have a mod's response?
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That's a fantastically logical argument you have going for you Liverpool England. I hope the Moderators can save you from the blindingly sinful sight of two clothed breasts. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Cheers,
Klaus Kinky, Minister of Culture, Ost Perversia

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So I take it the nation name Dicksaplenty is both availble, and acceptable?


I didn't know sexual names as such were allowed, but I guess so seeing the lack of response.

I have deleted your flag. Before you upload a flag, you are told, "Non-flag-like or inappropriate images are not permitted. Please don't post them." Yours is arguably inappropriate and definitely un-flag-like.

Please understand that on NationStates you are welcome (encouraged, in fact) to discuss issues such as whether clothed breasts are a threat to world peace. However, you're not free to post whatever images you like.

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Please understand that on NationStates you are welcome (encouraged, in fact) to discuss issues such as whether clothed breasts are a threat to world peace.

You know [violet], unclothed breasts would probably cause world peace. We could just have a bunch of topless women run around on the battlefield and distract the soldiers.

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We, the Free People of Ost Perversia, have declared a National Day of Mourning over the removal of Titsplenty's flag. Today, all Ost Perversions, male and female, will appear in public topless.

Also, I am informed that the Special Prosecutor of Ost Perversia has indicted the Government of Liverpool England for the crimes of:

A. COLLABORATING with the Thoughtless Police in the First Degree.
B. PANDERING to the Lowest IQ's in the First Degree.
C. PROMOTING Public Ignorance in the First Degree.

We intend to bring him/her to the bar of justice in the near future before he can spawn additional herds of prudish lemmings.

Cheers, Klaus Kinky, Minister of Justice.

Ost Perversia:
In real life even the most narrow minded of Nations are allowed to express their opinions in the United Nations.
Thank god they rotate, except of course the permanent members, the Security Council!
"...the meek shall inherit the earth..."

Feel free to tell me that you don't like my flag etc etc, but don't tell me what to do in a make believe fantasy world.

There are too many people here that have lived under the vacuous umbrella of MTV, CNN, Pay TV and Hollywood for so long that they no longer realise that there are more important things going on in the world and their lives than what they see on the TV or computer monitor in front of them!

Making fun of the fact that we don't get out much is not a good way to make friends in NS-land.

Personally, I would say that this flag is in violation of NationStates policies.

Can a moderator give me 1 argument why Titsaplenty's Flag is an offence.
I asked my neighbours to watch (a lesbian French pair, very feminist and Germain Greer fans) it and they could not see any antiwomen offence.
When I look around at the streets I see female brests around in less textile and many times not that perfect.

And I think Titsaplenty is making a lott off friends on this huge site, simply because he has humor.
Someone who sees an offence in this flag and deletes it, shows a lack off humor. And doing this without argumentation will turn your biggest fans (Moi) in to hard criticasters (don't know if this is correct English) because off a Big Brother behaviour.

Where are the arguments? This is not pornografic and it passed the hardest test (my neighbours) off women from we can not think that they like that their sexe is made ridiculous. No, they even liked it and where very attracted by Titsaplenty's flag.

Einstein: "Two things are unendless: the universe and human stupidity, but I am not sure about the universe." Don'tmake this quote hitting the forum moderators.

Come on respected moderators, I've seen the flag has been changed. i don't like this, it is like Klaus posted: very evil things can be read in the great fora here. I've seen (I posted a lot for just arriving) that some posts with racism or pure hate were deleted but we can not compare Titsaplenty with those guys.

Free Nelson Mandela and Titsaplenty!
I will start a planet-internet campaign for the rights off The Free land off titsaplenty! I even will camp with my North Face V25 tent (I like to sleep in those yellow expedition tents) before the Strassbourg court off human rights defending the freedom off speech on your site.

The problem with Nationstates is that's once your in your addicted to it. :P

Château Latour for everyone,on the house!

Funny thread indeed! :D


*tags*

News Flash!!! Ost Perversia--TODAY!!!

Liverpool England's Government was convicted by Jury Trial of all charges filed against it, including "Criminal Censorship in the First Degree"!!! Although not originally charged with this heinous crime, the Jurors themselves added this charge and convicted the government of Liverpool England without leaving the Courtroom.

As the chastened Liverpoolians were lead from the courtroom, several
jurors flashed their bare breasts at the felons. After fainting at this display of feminine beauty, the Liverpoolians were hustled out of the courtroom past a screaming crowd of clothed-breasted feminist protesters.

It is expected that the convicted Liverpoolians will receive the Death Penalty at sentencing. However, government sources indicate that they will be allowed to commit ritual suicide, with their families, to expunge their guilt for this terrible crime against Humanity.

The now leaderless Liverpoolian government was unable to find a spokesperson for comment.

~Ministry of Justice, Ost Perversia

News Flash!!! Ost Perversia--TODAY!!!

Liverpool England's Government was convicted by Jury Trial of all charges ldged against it, including "Criminal Censorship in the First Degree"! Although not originally charged with this heinous crime, the Jurors themselves added this charge and convicted the government of Liverpool England without leaving the Courtroom.

As the chastened Liverpoolians were lead from the courtroom, several
jurors flashed their bare breasts at the felons. After fainting at this display of feminine beauty, the Liverpoolians were hustled out of the courtroom past a screaming crowd of clothed-breasted feminist protesters.

It is expected that the convicted Liverpoolians will receive the Death Penalty at sentencing. However, government sources indicate that they will be allowed to commit ritual suicide, with their families, to expunge their guilt for this terrible crime against Humanity.

The now leaderless Liverpoolian government was unable to find a spokesperson for comment.

~Ministry of Justice, Ost Perversia

MODALERT
blatant flame/flamebaiting

Nonsense, you had a fair trial. Quit whining for the Moderators and accept responsibility for your political beliefs.

Or hire a Lawyer. Who knows, with luck you may only be exiled to Nord Perversia, a region we Ost Perversians like to refer to as "Siberia without trees".

Cheers, Klaus Kinky, Minister of Justice

Can a moderator give me 1 argument why Titsaplenty's Flag is an offence.
I asked my neighbours to watch (a lesbian French pair, very feminist and Germain Greer fans) it and they could not see any antiwomen offence.
When I look around at the streets I see female brests around in less textile and many times not that perfect.

And I think Titsaplenty is making a lott off friends on this huge site, simply because he has humor.

There are better ways to make friends that don't risk getting yourself deleted.

Someone who sees an offence in this flag and deletes it, shows a lack off humor. And doing this without argumentation will turn your biggest fans (Moi) in to hard criticasters (don't know if this is correct English) because off a Big Brother behaviour.

I dunno.

Understand, With so many players on Nationstates, the Moderators and the Admin have to maintain a fairly high degree of order on the website if they are to be able to be effective at all. Yes, this does occaisionally mean that they appear to have no sense of humour, but it also means that those with such names as "F#%$ Off Mods I Roolz!!!" can't get out on a technicality.

Where are the arguments? This is not pornografic and it passed the hardest test (my neighbours) off women from we can not think that they like that their sexe is made ridiculous. No, they even liked it and where very attracted by Titsaplenty's flag.

They already gave the arguments. It's not a flag-like flag. While I agree that it's probably not that offensive, there are some pretty unhumourous players on NS that would probably take offense. Again, it's trying not to make precedent that people can exploit.

Come on respected moderators, I've seen the flag has been changed. i don't like this, it is like Klaus posted: very evil things can be read in the great fora here. I've seen (I posted a lot for just arriving) that some posts with racism or pure hate were deleted but we can not compare Titsaplenty with those guys.

Yeah, actually, we can. They both transgressed against the NationStates policy. The mods cannot afford to be lenient even in such a case like this - if the precedents get to plenty, the Mods will be useless. On a site as massive as this, that's not a good thing.

Free Nelson Mandela and Titsaplenty!
I will start a planet-internet campaign for the rights off The Free land off titsaplenty! I even will camp with my North Face V25 tent (I like to sleep in those yellow expedition tents) before the Strassbourg court off human rights defending the freedom off speech on your site.

Got a newsflash for you - Freedom of Speech does not exist on this website. It never has existed on this website. It never will exist on this website. This is not publically owned by any government, it is owned by [violet] and Max Barry, and what they say goes. You can like it or leave it, but either way, They make the rules. You do not. [violet] is, literally, God. They can choose to do whatever they want. They could even just turn off the game tomorrow, and we have no recourse, because they own the game. We contribute nothing - we just consume their resources.

This game takes time, CPU time, Bandwith and Hard Drive Space to maintain. These things are not cheap. The only reason this is still free with the minimum of Advertisements is because [violet] and Max Barry are kind enough to let it continue.

"Moderation should be Moderate."

But, of course, we in Ost Perversia are not moderates, hence our name.
Agreed though that once a particle of common sense is allowed into a website, it could open the floodgates.......

Cheers, Klaus Kinky, Minister of Propaganda :wink:

"Moderation should be Moderate."

But, of course, we in Ost Perversia are not moderates, hence our name.
Agreed though that once a particle of common sense is allowed into a website, it could open the floodgates.......

Cheers, Klaus Kinky, Minister of Propaganda :wink:

"The price for freedom is Eternal Vigilance"

Any Freedoms here are a privelige, not a right. This website is not based in the United States, where the Bill of Rights holds power. It is, in fact, based in Australia, where there is no such thing as a Bill of Rights.

And Free Speech taken too far is not common sense. It's asking for a perpetual flame war. There are too many people here for Moderate Moderation to take place. As the population grows, the likelihood of those that would abuse the freedoms given being present increases. I've been here 1 year. I've seen this debate 5 times already.

The Internet is not a free world. It is a place run by hundreds upon thousands of individuals, some being nice enough to let people do whatever they like. That is not the case in most places. It is certainly not the case here.

Yes, I recall the "it is a privilege and an honor to be allowed to contribute" speech. It is the cry of website owners and moderators everywhere when challenged on a decision or an ethical judgement.

I'm not saying that Violet is guilty of this, but your argument is, afterall, the moral equivalent of the juvenile schoolyard taunt, "it's my ball and if you want to play, you have to play by my rules".

Unquestioning obedience is moronic, regardless of the site. And, in all of the years I've been on the net, I've never made the acquaintance of a site owner who operated a site out of purely philanthropic impulses.
Once again, I am painting with a broad brush to make a point and do not intend to insult any individual.

But I do find it tedious that defenders of the autocratic site system uniformly scream, "There is no freedom of speech". No one's stupid enough to believe that there is freedom of speech--without consequence--in real life, let alone on a privately owned site.

Cheers, Klaus Kinky, Minister of Propaganda, Free State of Ost Perversia

Yes, I recall the "it is a privilege and an honor to be allowed to contribute" speech. It is the cry of website owners and moderators everywhere when challenged on a decision or an ethical judgement.

Of course, that doesn't change the fact that it happens to be true.

I'm not saying that Violet is guilty of this, but your argument is, afterall, the moral equivalent of the juvenile schoolyard taunt, "it's my ball and if you want to play, you have to play by my rules".

Again, if you don't like it, door's to your left...

Unquestioning obedience is moronic, regardless of the site. And, in all of the years I've been on the net, I've never made the acquaintance of a site owner who operated a site out of purely philanthropic impulses.
Once again, I am painting with a broad brush to make a point and do not intend to insult any individual.

I never said I'm unquestioning. I know I can question them at any time - just that they have no particular reason to give me any answers.

Of course, I just get sick and tired of people who play Political games and expect that the workings of the site should be as fair and just as their little world. It stinks of petulance, in many ways. "I'm not getting my way! I'm being oppressed! Why can't I run the website? I'm running my country!"

I'm painting with a broad brush here, of course, I'm not saying that you are such a person. But there are such people.

But I do find it tedious that defenders of the autocratic site system uniformly scream, "There is no freedom of speech". No one's stupid enough to believe that there is freedom of speech, without consequence, in real life, let alone on a privately owned site.

So why are you so adamant that there be freedom of speech here? Why should this website be beholden to the rules of Real Life, when it is not Real Life?

Klaus,

There are many people in the world, many of them here it would seem, that are not happy unless they are complaining about something.

Fortunately, the Titsaplenty flag still flies and it would seem that at least for now, wiser and more mature heads have prevailed!

News Flash!!! Ost Perversia--TODAY!!!

Liverpool England's Government was convicted by Jury Trial of all charges ldged against it, including "Criminal Censorship in the First Degree"! Although not originally charged with this heinous crime, the Jurors themselves added this charge and convicted the government of Liverpool England without leaving the Courtroom.

As the chastened Liverpoolians were lead from the courtroom, several
jurors flashed their bare breasts at the felons. After fainting at this display of feminine beauty, the Liverpoolians were hustled out of the courtroom past a screaming crowd of clothed-breasted feminist protesters.

It is expected that the convicted Liverpoolians will receive the Death Penalty at sentencing. However, government sources indicate that they will be allowed to commit ritual suicide, with their families, to expunge their guilt for this terrible crime against Humanity.

The now leaderless Liverpoolian government was unable to find a spokesperson for comment.

~Ministry of Justice, Ost Perversia

MODALERT
blatant flame/flamebaiting

You still haven't give an argument.

I'll help you: " We are afraid that when we tollerate 2 female brests in textile that it will start a worldwide attack on our mighty site and this will lead to shamless postings by perverts like Marc Dutroux" (remmember him?)

Come on give us an argumentation! Don't make this so easy for me...
Show me you have a non facist opinion for banning the flag in wich 90% off world population does not see a problem.


THIS GIVES ME AN IDEA, SINCE THE "NS MODERATORS" (only those here) OUR SO SURE ABOUT THEMSELVES,LET'S HAVE A VOTE ON THE FORUM ABOUT IT.

I know who is losing "the self overestimeting forum censurship."

Guys, you really are shooting at people that don't disserve this.
Are you members off "Vlaams Blok" or their friends from the "Front National"? Than I understand such a reactionair behaviour.

Hey! Jean Marie Le Pen, I know by your critics on the Titsaplenty that it is you under the diguise off the names off N. English towns. Did not know you are on the internet, since you are 70 and most off your Collaborationfriends are dead.

They already gave the arguments. It's not a flag-like flag. While I agree that it's probably not that offensive, there are some pretty unhumourous players on NS that would probably take offense. Again, it's trying not to make precedent that people can exploit.

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That is what I wanted to say by not making a precedent..
But still, you are shooting at the wrong one..

Sorry I do not speak english, who or what is [violet]
I see this thing in yourposts, in my language, it is just a collor.

Or does "[Violet]" appears when you posted dirty words or BS?

Thalbourne writes:

Again, if you don't like it, door's to your left...

My God! I never would have thought of that. You are the wisest of the wise. I might move to your region just to send my fellow Ost Perversians to study at your feet. Who needs Socrates or Plato when they can read your posts?

Of course, I just get sick and tired of people who play Political games and expect that the workings of the site should be as fair and just as their little world. It stinks of petulance, in many ways. "I'm not getting my way! I'm being oppressed! Why can't I run the website? I'm running my country!"

Well, let's see, Titsaplenty is not my country, first of all. My flag is still flying, unless the mindless cretins of conformity take offense and the Moderators care to listen to them.
Secondly, who cares what you're sick and tired of? You raised the point and now you're angry because I see life differently than you do. I suppose that's the purpose of this site and it's individual nation states.

So why are you so adamant that there be freedom of speech here? Why should this website be beholden to the rules of Real Life, when it is not Real Life?

Well, no need to paint with a broad brush here. You gave me speech number 101 "There is no freedom of speech on a netsite". I answered that there isn't freedom of speech, unless one is willing to pay the consequences, just as in real life (I believe that's called "RL" here). This is not being adamant, this is simply exercising common sense.

So, I will not look to my left or my right for the door, since, in fact, it is at my fingertips. If you ever care to visit Ost Perversia, do drop by, as I have a feeling that there is a little Perversian in you, as there is in everyone.

Cheers, Klaus Kinky, Minister of Truth, Justice and the Ost Perversian Way

Thalbourne writes:

Again, if you don't like it, door's to your left...

My God! I never would have thought of that. You are the wisest of the wise. I might move to your region just to send my fellow Ost Perversians to study at your feet. Who needs Socrates or Plato when they can read your posts?

Of course, I just get sick and tired of people who play Political games and expect that the workings of the site should be as fair and just as their little world. It stinks of petulance, in many ways. "I'm not getting my way! I'm being oppressed! Why can't I run the website? I'm running my country!"

Well, let's see, Titsaplenty is not my country, first of all. My flag is still flying, unless the mindless cretins of conformity take offense and the Moderators care to listen to them.
Secondly, who cares what you're sick and tired of? You raised the point and now you're angry because I see life differently than you do. I suppose that's the purpose of this site and it's individual nation states.

So why are you so adamant that there be freedom of speech here? Why should this website be beholden to the rules of Real Life, when it is not Real Life?

Well, no need to paint with a broad brush here. You gave me speech number 101 "There is no freedom of speech on a netsite". I answered that there isn't freedom of speech, unless one is willing to pay the consequences, just as in real life (I believe that's called "RL" here). This is not being adamant, this is simply exercising common sense.

So, I will not look to my left or my right for the door, since, in fact, it is at my fingertips. If you ever care to visit Ost Perversia, do drop by, as I have a feeling that there is a little Perversian in you, as there is in everyone.

Cheers, Klaus Kinky, Minister of Truth, Justice and the Ost Perversian Way


Jezus, Wise Klaus, this guy PM'd you.
I think he regrets it already. What do you want, I won't attack a specialist in rights and justice. on the continent we would say that Thalbourne lost with 6-0, and remember that a non appearing for the match only hurts you with the official 5-0.

"Who needs Socrate and Plato when thety can reed your posts?"

Well for being "ad rem" like this you are nominated for the golden toga from the Free Land off silly walks human right watch.

Off course you are already awardedb here with the golden advocate haircut price 2003 for friendly nations, and the U boat frontspange silber.

Hey, i did not type: "when thety cab read your..."

I typed "they".
I thought I made a typo so I tried the "edit" function.
I know now that I typed "they" since the beginning and that it is a technical prob that my words are written like this. Moderators spend you time to probs like this becaus they offend me much more the a flag.

Guess attacking and annoying a state is easier than resolving this.

I had a colegial gathering of 12.000 guides to distroy the Liverpoolian censorship. Watch out for our ice axes, we sharpened them for the freedomfight off flags!
I am already stareting to throw long distance snowballs!

Greetings Naleth!

The problem, as expressed to me by the nations of our new region, is that on any given day (we're a pretty vocal group) 75% of our internal debates are lost (erased) before others, worldwide time zones etc., have a chance to read them. :?
We don't want to cause any waves here so I thought I'd just experiment with the layout, so to speak, before inviting more or our friends in the Feldgrau Military Discussion Forum to come over here for lessons in how the United Nations, and nations in general, should be run.

Our best regards and appologies if we've offended!

Make a free message board elsewhere

Apparently, my friend Silly Mountain Walks, Thalbourne represents something called "The Diplomatic Federation of Thalbourne". The use of the word "Diplomatic" in his nation's name indicates that either Ost Perversia and the world have a different definition of "diplomatic" or that there may be a "Truth in Packaging" violation that our Federal Food and Drug Administration should investigate.
I don't know. At least we Ost Perversians make no secret of being...well...Perverse.
I hate it when people hide the fact that they're Perversians by adopting grand titles!! :wink:
At any rate, off to bed. Be Well and Best Regards,

Klaus Kinky, Ost Perversian and Proud of It!!!

See PM to the Upper Judge off OP.

Sorry I do not speak english, who or what is [violet]
I see this thing in yourposts, in my language, it is just a collor.


[violet] is the site administrator, and the final word on all forum and game matters.

In other words, [violet] is the God of NationStates. If [violet] says a flag is inappropriate, the flag is inappropriate, there is no higher level of appeal.

Furthermore, the Moderation Forum is not the place to host an expanded regional message board. There are numerous free hosting services out there, and many regions use them. I would suggest you do so as well.