NationStates Jolt Archive


Flame/Flamebait war in Holland

Mohammastan
16-11-2003, 04:50
This is really getting out of hand...the region is highly active, so I'm posting this here as well as filing a Mod Report, as the evidence may not be there soon.

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2 hours ago The Nomadic Peoples of Amavisca NO SURRENDER TO THE FRANCOS SPAIN BROWNNOSER!

You fcuking idiot Nitwit, you stupid scatmuncher, I am not CG, if you want me gone you will have to go and kick me out! (But you can't ey? At times like this you realize being Delegate really doesn't amount to sh*t) If there is anyone who is pathetic around here it is our goodygood Delegate in his safe goodygood region. Why don't you join your fcuking boyfriend Francos in the Pacific, huh? Then you will live next door to eachother and you can't start fcuking eachother in the a*s on a regular basis. I know you are dreaming about that every night. Why not rid Holland of your dumb presence and make it reality?

I choose you! Come out and play, please. I can't wait to kick your little scrony butt. I don't need my supreme RRA Loyals to help me with this. I 'll do this all by my lonely...

(And Ballo, I know you will be reading this. Please don't delete me like you did last time with my nation SUCKERSOFSATANSCOCK. This is something private between that cazzo Nitwit and Dronrijp. I am only helping him fight his boredom. Like the Spice Girls say: Spice up his life. Thank you.)
2 hours ago The Pathetic PA-RRA Losers of Nitwitium Hi Hi. I love it when you're angry. You're whole face lights up.
2 hours ago The Nomadic Peoples of Amavisca Thats all you can sa-ay
Thats all you can sa-ay
Thats all you can sa-ay
Thats all you can sa-ay
2 hours ago The Pathetic PA-RRA Losers of Nitwitium Now you're acting patheticly childish again. I order you to be angry again. Much more fun being angry then childish.
And perhaps you're your face will again be a little sociable.
2 hours ago The Pathetic PA-RRA Losers of Nitwitium And why are you still here. Dont you have to follow your "sergeant" CG? What is your rank? Boyscout first class or something?
2 hours ago The Nomadic Peoples of Amavisca You are just a gloryhunting traitor. First you fight against FS, but then, when victory doesn't come as easily as you expected or wanted, you switch sides. When Franco is slain you will probably say you had a big part to play in it ey? You my good sir is what the French call, "Le scum of the earth"!
2 hours ago The Nomadic Peoples of Amavisca I am a SOLDIER and proud of it! I don't hang my whole personality upon on my function as you obviously do with your delegacy. I don't mind CG being my Sgt.
2 hours ago The Nomadic Peoples of Amavisca Why dont you kick me out? You dont have acces to regional control, do you? You are only Ballo's little helpless puppet/side kick. He allows you to wear his big Delegate coat as long as you do what he says. And you DO it! Can't see the bravery in thát...
2 hours ago The Pathetic PA-RRA Losers of Nitwitium So CG is you superior? ROFL. She wil first shoot herself in the foot and afterwards look in the barrel to see where the bullet came from. If you are only a soldier it makes me wonder what you're abilitys are. You cant probably even hit your own foot.

And for you info I was in the PA since the beginning but soon found out Doc and Savage and all the rest where self-important nanny's. After the first disgraceful defeats I took some distance.
114 minutes ago The Pathetic PA-RRA Losers of Nitwitium I am a SOLDIER and proud of it! I don't hang my whole personality upon on my function as you obviously do with your delegacy.
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Well at least I was ambitious enough to go for the nr 1 position. You are satisfied with the lowest position in some loser army. But it is probably all you can achieve with your skills and talent. If CG is in and becomes a sgt right away it makes me wonder what you did wrong.

When Franco is slain you will probably say you had a big part to play in it ey?
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You on a PCP-high? When Franco is slain? Pffffff. Got to kick the habit man cause you are delirious. You do not get it do you? He wont. Not by you lot but maybe when somebody smarter steps up. He is smarter and more cunning then all of you together.

You are only Ballo's little helpless puppet/side kick. He allows you to wear his big Delegate coat as long as you do what he says. And you DO it! Can't see the bravery in thát..
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Yep but Ballo knows my name. Kandarin knows yours? Better to be number 2 then number 1736. Amawho? Never heard of. Sounds familiar?

Both Nitwitium and Amavisca are flaming each other and each other's respective regions/organizations. In addition, Nitwitium's title is a flame.
Cogitation
16-11-2003, 04:54
Confirmed. I see it.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Forum Moderator
16-11-2003, 11:17
Man, don't you guys have something other to do then play snitches all the time? Are you all looking to suck up to the moderators EVERY chance you get, to increase your chances of becoming one. Sorry if this sounds like flaming but I am so sick of it.

As you can read in one of my posts, we are just fooling around with each other. I'll even quote it for you:
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(And Ballo, I know you will be reading this. Please don't delete me like you did last time with my nation SUCKERSOFSATANSCOCK. This is something private between that cazzo Nitwit and Dronrijp. I am only helping him fight his boredom. Like the Spice Girls say: Spice up his life. Thank you.)
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This is NOT real, just an act!!!! READ! Nitwit was bored so we faked a big fight. He is one of my buddies in Holland. If you have waited for 2hours the whole board would have been cleared and nobody would have had a problem. But now people who don't have **** all to do with it go running to the mods (who are busy enough settling real disputes) and making a big scene. Last time the same happened with the above mentioned nation. Why can't you all mind your own business.

If this is reason enough for Nitwit and me to be deleted, so be it. One thing though: Amavisca is only a puppet of mine, but Nitwitium is the guys Headnation. Please be a little more lenient with him. I don't know about you over in the States, but with us in Holland everybody who snitches as much and as easily as A LOT of people do here in this game, would not have much friends (This is not flamebait, I really mean it! I can say what I think right, if I say it without cursing!?). Is this normal over there? Man, you are killing this game.
Catholic Europe
16-11-2003, 11:21
To some people, who are trying to play by the rules, flame and spam ruins this and so quite rightly they should report it.
16-11-2003, 11:28
Yeah, I understand, but if you don't got business over in Holland, don't read it! Walk away.

Hey man, I know the reporter was right and what we did was wrong, that's why I will accept the punishment. I am only explaining and speaking my mind about it.

And Nitiwitium is the elected Delegate of Holland, so I think you can not call our posts SPAM. FLAME(BAIT) yes, that was the purpose: to mouth off to each other and see who wins the battle. SPAM no.
Catholic Europe
16-11-2003, 11:30
Hey man, I know the reporter was right and what we did was wrong, that's why I will accept the punishment. I am only explaining and speaking my mind about it.

That's okay, but you have to realise that whilst you may think that what you did was okay, by the rules of the game it wasn't.
16-11-2003, 11:38
I realise that completely. We'll see what happens... But don't worry boys and girls, Nitwitium and I are still friends.

By the way: Mý headnation (biggest one) is Dronrijp.
Nitwitium
16-11-2003, 12:03
ONE DAY!!


One day the region of Holland switched from Dutch to English and look what happens. Outsiders that we never seen or heard are poking their nose in our affairs. We do it all the time in Holland. I am (for how long only the Mods know) the delegate of Holland. We always have very heated debates. A little slander and a little foul mouthing can be in on it too.
Nobody in the Dutch regions ever complained.

But we always did it in Dutch and everybody is used to the way of us making controversial statements. But with the new set-up in the regions Holland/Nederland we decided that Nederland would be our Dutch spoken region and Holland would be our international region.

ONE DAY. And some *bleep* is reporting us. Well censorship is only avoided when we do not use the "English" region then. We have to give up our freedom of speech we hold so dearly in Holland. We have to do it in Nederland from now on and speak secretly in Dutch.

Whatever we say to each other, Amavisca (Dronrijp) and me are still buds. We can see the difference in views but never without losing respect for each other. It is somehow the way we communicate with each other. Until now we bothered nobody but it seems a bad idea to do it in English. As of now we will only do it in Dutch. It's our culture and we like to nourish it. I hope both of us will still get the opportunity to say in our language that what is in our culture still within boundaries.

Nitwitium
HC Eredivisie
16-11-2003, 12:46
I can confirm that what Nitwitium ans Amavisca/Dronrijp are saying is true.
16-11-2003, 12:51
We can see the difference in views but never without losing respect for each other.

LOL! nice one idiot!

we call each other an &%*$% ^^^&*&* *@$#@$ all the time :D :twisted:

But really, we should stop now, we are ruining that nice and crispy clean Dutch reputation that we hold so dear...
16-11-2003, 12:54
ONE DAY!!

Nitwitium

Smooth. I hope you realize that at least one mod can speak Dutch, right? They will be watching now, I can assure you.
16-11-2003, 12:54
Which one?
Nitwitium
16-11-2003, 12:57
Both Nitwitium and Amavisca are flaming each other and each other's respective regions/organizations. In addition, Nitwitium's title is a flame.
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If you look more careful and then take some time to THINK you could see I am the delegate of Holland. What makes you think I am with the Francos or the Pacific? Cause I judge his opponents? If everybody has an opinion about something would be part of the issue he is talking about you would be a inhabitant of Holland.

Never realised my title was a "Flame". I think of it as freedom of speech. Did some on Francos and on the Dutch royal family the last days and nobody complained. They all know in Holland that I give controversial statements on RL and sometimes NS developments to get things going. And it works. People are contiously debating issues after the statements. But if this is against regulations so be it. Lesson learned here is to do it in Dutch again. Did one on Francos in English and he was a good sport enough not to complain allthough it wasn't friendly. But I consider the complainer here from the RRA/PA side. I understand that you think this is not friendly. I would lose my sense of humour too after the last events. Now I know how you feel like it I will make it less unfriendly.
HC Eredivisie
16-11-2003, 12:58
ONE DAY!!

Nitwitium

Smooth. I hope you realize that at least one mod can speak Dutch, right? They will be watching now, I can assure you.

I thought none of the mods spoke Dutch.
16-11-2003, 12:58
Which one?

I know who. I'm not telling, but I know.
HC Eredivisie
16-11-2003, 12:59
Which one?

I know who. I'm not telling, but I know.

So you don't know.
16-11-2003, 13:01
So you don't know.


Ah, but I do know.
HC Eredivisie
16-11-2003, 13:01
So you don't know.


Ah, but I do know.

then tell us
16-11-2003, 13:03
then tell us

Huh-uh. You're perfectly capable of running searches on the mods to see whom has revealed what.
16-11-2003, 13:04
But I consider the complainer here from the RRA/PA side.

I am NOT defending the snitch, but you sound like you want to continue our little discussion from yesterday out here. Starting to point fingers. That is why Ad Melkert had to move to the States. Hatemongering.

If the snitch was really from the PA/RRA, why would he report us both??? (And don't kick the open door in now by saying that we RRA/PA guys are thát dumb.) Now I will feel the modwrath too and I am on their side... Doesn't make sense does it. :roll:
HC Eredivisie
16-11-2003, 13:04
then tell us

Huh-uh. You're perfectly capable of running searches on the mods to see whom has revealed what.

i've never seen a mod that said he could speak dutch, and i'm not goingto search through this entire forum.
16-11-2003, 13:09
i've never seen a mod that said he could speak dutch, and i'm not goingto search through this entire forum.

Look up at the top of this page. See the big black NationStates? Look down... between it and the blue forum bar. FAQ, and Search, it says. Go to search. Search for author. Input Mod's name. Scan posts. This is called an egosearch.
HC Eredivisie
16-11-2003, 13:12
i've never seen a mod that said he could speak dutch, and i'm not goingto search through this entire forum.

Look up at the top of this page. See the big black NationStates? Look down... between it and the blue forum bar. FAQ, and Search, it says. Go to search. Search for author. Input Mod's name. Scan posts. This is called an egosearch.

1. you're a month old, i'm six months older than you so it's logical i know more.

2. i know about the search function, but i'm not going to search.
Nitwitium
16-11-2003, 13:15
But I consider the complainer here from the RRA/PA side.

I am NOT defending the snitch, but you sound like you want to continue our little discussion from yesterday out here. Starting to point fingers. That is why Ad Melkert had to move to the States. Hatemongering.

If the snitch was really from the PA/RRA, why would he report us both??? (And don't kick the open door in now by saying that we RRA/PA guys are thát dumb.) Now I will feel the modwrath too and I am on their side... Doesn't make sense does it. :roll:

Maybe the complainer did not know you? Or thinks the cause is more important then the DEAT-ing of a soldier? But you are right about the finger-pointing. I will not again point. I withdraw my accusation of the heritage of the complainer.
16-11-2003, 13:17
1. you're a month old, i'm six months older than you so it's logical i know more.

2. i know about the search function, but i'm not going to search.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

oh... sorry... excuse me... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'll have you know I've been playing this game since before you even heard about Nation States. Just because THIS nation is 1 month old doesn't mean I haven't been around a lot longer. February, to be precise. So, if you'll kindly sit down, n00b, you are NOT my elder.
16-11-2003, 13:21
Thanks, thats darn nice of you Nitwit! (Seeing how this whole discussion is fake, maybe we all should shut it :D ) De kogel kwam van links! LOL

And about the Dutch mod, there is no such thing, never heard about it, never seen it. If he would be there he would have caught us a long time a ago. Holland is the biggest Dutch region and if there had been a Dutchspeaking mod he would have checked us out regularly. Posting here that he is here is just s failed attempt to scare us into shutting up. Won't work though.

Either you come with proof that he is here, or stop talking about it. (What reasons could you have for not telling us? Maybe that it is a LIE?
Nitwitium
16-11-2003, 13:22
ONE DAY!!

Nitwitium

Smooth. I hope you realize that at least one mod can speak Dutch, right? They will be watching now, I can assure you.

It is of no consequence that a Mod speaks Dutch. Before we had some dealings with the Mods that attracted their attention. But still when we went along in Dutch they kept aside. That can have two reasons:

1) There is no "Dutch" Mod

2) He respects a nations culture and leaves it up to the region involved. This he could do easily cause if there are no complaints there is no reason for Mod-action.

I hope it is the #2 possibility.
16-11-2003, 13:24
It is of no consequence that a Mod speaks Dutch. Before we had some dealings with the Mods that attracted their attention. But still when we went along in Dutch they kept aside. That can have two reasons:

1) There is no "Dutch" Mod

2) He respects a nations culture and leaves it up to the region involved. This he could do easily cause if there are no complaints there is no reason for Mod-action.

I hope it is the #2 possibility.

Actually, it's probably more likely to be Unlisted Option #3:

The mods are hellishly busy, and usually only notice a problem like this when it is brought to their attention. Just because you escaped their notice doesn't mean your flames don't break the rules.
16-11-2003, 13:27
2) He respects a nations culture and leaves it up to the region involved.

Again a brilliant way to defend our slander! :lol:
"Hey man, if we want finish each other off in the most brutal of ways verbally, all the time, you should allow it because it is our culture. "

I really like the way you use the term 'respect' to defend absolutely everything! Hehehehehehehe

It is becoming a real Cult this Dutch NS Mod. Maybe we should think about starting to worship him!

Owyeh, and HC Eredivisie is NOT a n00b, thank you.
Nitwitium
16-11-2003, 14:05
Okay I don’t want to waist more valuable time about the issue at hand:

1) The complaint was made by an outsider.

2) The complaint was that two followers of the RRA and Francos where arguing about their regions. This complaint was false. Both nations involved are Dutch and are residents of Holland. They are even in the same Government. So it made this whole quarrel a inner-regional political dispute. I think outsiders are not legally and morally in the positions to judge a inner-regional dispute WITHOUT a complaint from one of region members complaining.


Ergo sum:

It was a dispute of a political nature within the region of Holland to evaluate the support from Holland to the cause of the RRA/PA.

Not so bright for us to do it on the first day of being transferred from a Dutch to a English spoken region though.
The Most Glorious Hack
16-11-2003, 14:12
Oh good Lord, everyone just knock it off.
There is no "Dutch" mod.
There is, however, a mod who speaks Dutch.
When both sides of this "flame-fest" said that it was a non issue, this thread should have died.
Running around tossing about "noob" is just plain silly. People can have multiple nations, or ressurected ones. Don't assume that the start date is the whole story.
If two players want to send playful "flames" back and forth, take it to TG's to avoid such misunderstandings.
Nitwitium, you misspelled Don's last name in your Nation Title.
The source of the complaint is irrelevant. There's no need to flame people who are bringing apparent rules violations to the mods' attention.
This thread is locked. Soundly. Twice. With Super-Glue.