NationStates Jolt Archive


Why was Neo Sheol deleted?

28-10-2003, 06:13
May I ask why Neo Sheol was deleted for?
Thalbourne
28-10-2003, 06:17
Ya know, the name itself is familiar. If I recall, There was once a Sheol who was deleted, a long time ago, and eventually IP-banned...
28-10-2003, 06:18
Yes, I was friends with Sheol. He came back on NS and sent me a telegram and I replied, but he was deleted before he could respond it seems. :(
Neutered Sputniks
28-10-2003, 06:22
Sheol was IP banned quite a while ago. Thus, his reincarnation was removed.
28-10-2003, 06:22
Ah, okay. Thank you for clearing that up Neut. ;)
Cremerica
28-10-2003, 06:23
why was he ip-banned?
28-10-2003, 06:26
why was he ip-banned?

Long story.
Thalbourne
28-10-2003, 06:36
Very long story. In the shortest possible story (thus removing a great deal of the important details), He accused the Mods of a great many misdeeds, claimed evidence, but never showed anything substantial. Even after [violet] pointed out there wasn't enough evidence for any sort of action, Sheol continued to attack the Moderators. Eventually, he stooped to the level of Flaming, and was removed. After several more attempts to come back on to continue his crusade, he was IP Banned.

This is the very short version of the story. It lacks detail. That's why it's so short.
Neutered Sputniks
28-10-2003, 06:36
Pretty much what KGB Informant is currently doing in his thread.
Katganistan
28-10-2003, 15:15
Pretty much what KGB Informant is currently doing in his thread.

Yes, but people are also insisting that KGB Informant put up or shut up.
Tactical Grace
28-10-2003, 15:19
He would be wise to heed that advice.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
28-10-2003, 15:31
Pretty much what KGB Informant is currently doing in his thread.really... maybe there's a reason?
Catholic Europe
28-10-2003, 16:00
Pretty much what KGB Informant is currently doing in his thread.really... maybe there's a reason?

But you weren't here before the mods, it was terrible really.
Neutered Sputniks
28-10-2003, 16:02
Pretty much what KGB Informant is currently doing in his thread.

Yes, but people are also insisting that KGB Informant put up or shut up.

Same thing we did with Sheol..who never did produce, by the way ;)
28-10-2003, 16:17
Pretty much what KGB Informant is currently doing in his thread.

1. note there is no real way to backchannell you or any of the mods
2. My friend and I both contacted the get help page. no one has YET responded to these complaints
3. I posted evidence that [violet] was involved with the pacific. you confessed that you were involved with the pacific. I'm not going to convice you of anything further. You have self-interest in denying all of it. but I am right that there were lines crossed in the pacific that seriously question the integrity of the game. why not just end the thread now and work towards reconsidering some of those flaws that arose, rather than bicker about it. look at all the time and effort spent trying to convince me that I'm wrong - I'm one small non-UN nation in a very small region and look at all the interest in the words that I have to say. SO obviously, you're scared to have me continue speaking.
Tactical Grace
28-10-2003, 16:32
The original question was answered, this is now off-topic. Locking.

As for you, KGB, we allowed you to continue talking for the time being because your empty accusations were quite amusing. Should you become annoying however, you could go the same way as Sheol. Think of your other nations.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Neutered Sputniks
28-10-2003, 16:40
Reploid and I, along with a number of other Mods, have made our own personal email addresses available in the stickied thread on Moderators. Stating that there is no backchannel is quite against your argument that the Mods/Admin were working in backchannels...
The SLAGLands
28-10-2003, 16:44
1. note there is no real way to backchannell you or any of the mods

So? If [violet] and/or Max Barry had problems with the way we are helping run THEIR site, we'd be stripped of power. As we have not been stripped of power, we are acting within the rules. Sorry, junior, but it's Max's and [violet]'s site. Dem's the breaks.

2. My friend and I both contacted the get help page. no one has YET responded to these complaints

I don't know how many times I'm going to have to reiterate the point that the mods have lives, real lives with problems that FREQUENTLY overtake our modding. I'm sick as a dog, Neut is moving, Rep's whole freaking state is on fire...

In short, this is a very rough time for the mods. And I'll thank you not to be so pompous as to believe that your posts to the Getting Help page deserve any more special treatment than anyone else's.

3. I posted evidence that [violet] was involved with the pacific. you confessed that you were involved with the pacific.

Neut did what he thought was right in the absence of [violet]. He had the best of intentions. Christ, why can't some of you realize this?

I'm not going to convice you of anything further. You have self-interest in denying all of it.

He's denying nothing. EVERYTHING has been put on the table for you to see. We have absolutely NOTHING to hide.

God, I love the conspiratorial types...

but I am right that there were lines crossed in the pacific that seriously question the integrity of the game. why not just end the thread now and work towards reconsidering some of those flaws that arose, rather than bicker about it.

Yeah. Thank you. We've established a precedent for the future, a precedent set forth by--egad!--the owners of this site, the people who PLUNK DOWN THE CASH so YOU can play this FREE game!

look at all the time and effort spent trying to convince me that I'm wrong - I'm one small non-UN nation in a very small region and look at all the interest in the words that I have to say. SO obviously, you're scared to have me continue speaking.

:roll:

Don't flatter yourself. We've dealt with many baseless accusations before, and we've dealt with them within the rules prescribed by [violet] and Max Barry.

What worries us the most is the fact that we know how people like you work. If we don't respond, we get the fun little accusation that "our silence only condemns us," which is a baseless argument because it implies that we are not acting within [violet]'s rules, when not acting within [violet]'s rules would cause us to be stripped of modhood, yet, of course, this baseless argument has a nasty tendence to rile people up toward "revolution" or some other such fruitless cause that, as I have proven, is logically baseless in and of itself. *whews after long sentence*

If we do respond, we get... well... posts like this. And as you can see, I really, REALLY hate responding to posts like this.

In short, you're not as special as you think you are, KGB. The mods have already moved on after what happened Sunday night. We've set a precedent, and we're trying to keep people from stirring up any more trouble and inciting more hate about it. What's so wrong with that?