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Bye everyone.

27-10-2003, 11:54
The game has been fun, and it sure came close in the Pacific. For me this game is over. The exitement has been too much for me. I don't blame any of the mods for what has happened. After all they did what they thought was right. Fair play must alway stay on the first place. Exploiting a glitch/ bug was not exactly fair of me to do.
Turned out that this game was more for adults than I ever could imagine. I hope that you all continue the game as you have done before. Remember; The Pacific is not worth it, and definitely Francos not. Exploit his ejection, and try to comfort the unfortunates in another less hostile region.
Please be nice to your fellow player, because you'll never know what kind of emotions are on the other side :( They are people too, you know. Flaming and spamming can have effects you never know on them.
I called sick from school, because of my state. I never knew that winning this was so important for me. How could I have been so stupid!
Remember, Neut is really a nice guy, and I sure that he's very sorry how things went. After all, who could know that [violet] would turn things around just a little time before the update, when all my lovely friend had gone away in dissapointment, or just went to sleep. I could not sleep for the whole night. My parents are very angry, because they thought I was sleeping :cry:

My days in NationStates are over. Maybe we see each other again in NS2, if nobody steals the name Corinthe :wink: You guys were just too nice for me.
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27-10-2003, 11:55
C'mon dammit. It's just a game. We're all pissed off that it failed but it's no reason to quit the game :(


~Myrth
Gesamtkuntswerk
27-10-2003, 11:56
I'm so glad to see that this little farce has a happy ending....[/sarcasm]

Goodbye, Corinthe. You shall be in my prayers. Take care.
Kurai Nami
27-10-2003, 11:57
Be Well Corinthe, and may your path allways be smooth and easy to walk.
27-10-2003, 12:01
bye corinthe, you were a great player.

but the saga continues. and we will bring down francos spain. and when we succeed, we will drink one for corinthe.

bye.

superschaap will take care
imported_Polok
27-10-2003, 12:04
its not the end of the world, dont give up over a little thing like that

I understand how important it is to be in a nice region, its the main reason I still play ns. But there are many other good regions out there, who Im sure would be happy to welcome you
imported_Zandra
27-10-2003, 12:06
cor, kzal je missen...
27-10-2003, 12:10
corinthe spreekt nederlands? :shock:
Myrth
27-10-2003, 12:30
C'mon Corinthe. You're welcome in Europe if you change your mind! :D
27-10-2003, 12:32
ook altijd welkom in Witloof en Spruitjes :twisted:
imported_Zandra
27-10-2003, 12:34
hey, je mag zelfs met al je poppetjes naar een van mijn regio's komen..
maar je hebt zelf ook al zoveel regio's..
die laat je toch niet zonder founder zitten?
27-10-2003, 12:41
hey, je mag zelfs met al je poppetjes naar een van mijn regio's komen..
maar je hebt zelf ook al zoveel regio's..
die laat je toch niet zonder founder zitten?

Het is maar een spel. Die regios druppelen vanzelf leeg, en dan verdwijnen ze. Ik heb altijd veel moeite moeten doen om de regios in beweging te houden. Ze liepen altijd naar een smoes te zoeken om een hekel aan me te krijgen, zodat ze een eigen region konden beginnen. België is ook een begraafplaats geworden. Ik mag dit niet meer spelen van mijn ouders omdat ik te emotioneel betrokken raakte bij bepaalde zaken. In het geval van de Pacific vergat ik helemaal dat het maar een spel is. Ik meende al die dingen, als vrijheid enzo echt. Ik had gewoon een politiek spelletje moeten spelen, net als al degenen die voor hun hulp in The Pacific iets terug vroegen als ik won.
Ik voelde me echt een vrijheidsstrijder :(
imported_Zandra
27-10-2003, 12:43
dat was je ook..
en als we winnen, zullen we jou ook zo herinneren..
veel geluk, en we zullen je missen.
CG

en als je je poppetjes niet in de rr wil laten sterven, zijn ze welkom in een van mijn regio's.
Erlangen-Ansbach
27-10-2003, 12:53
Frankly, I made similiar experiences but rather due to European reasons (Nuttylnd, EDF, Spy affair I, ComIntern...): Sometimes those events kept me awake and didn't allow me to sleep properly.
But on the other hand I'm enjoying this game very much
Maybe you should just cease playing for a week or two. Then after you have cooled down, join the region of Europe, where you will find more or less reasonable RPing and "normal" :wink: people.
Just drop the naive dream about the Pacific delegacy.
27-10-2003, 13:01
THIS IS NOT A FLAME!


But God, how can you let a Game like this get to you?
Unbelievable.
The new generation of pale youths, illuminated only by the glow of their VDU's.
And weaned on HTML.
Oh dear.

Yarm - Concerned, of Yarm.
27-10-2003, 13:22
This is more than just a game. Its addictive. You can sit infront of your computer playing it for hours. It has such a huge effect on some people, like Corinthe. Losing at it can destroy it, and it destroys your life. So we say goodbye to another great player. Well, at least you didnt go down through deletion.
Oh no, Im late for school!



And so the Pacific era continues...
Phoebos
27-10-2003, 13:24
Namarie, Corinthe... I didn't know you well, but I'm sorry to see you go

Shame about last night, but hey, was good fun. Can't remember the last time NS was so tense... :D

I really need to get a life :(
Thalbourne
27-10-2003, 13:25
But God, how can you let a Game like this get to you?

Human Nature, I find. Humans have a marked tendency to obsess over stuff. Some things, we don't mind people obsessing over. Others thing... We consider them freaks with no life to do so.

But it's always been the same. People obsessed over Television in the 60s, and Books before then, and probably over other stuff before then. Some things we consider good obsessions, others not so...
Erlangen-Ansbach
27-10-2003, 13:33
Indeed. For instance in Germany, coffein and alcohol are "accepted" drugs or obsessions, while only smoking is somehow considered ill and not healthy.
Well, the game is really fun. But I still have a live: I'm active in the youth organisation of a local German party, in the YMCA and regulary going out with friends and so on.
The important thing is to keep your self-control over the amount of time your spending on the game.
27-10-2003, 13:39
We must remember that this is just a game, I am a vocal supporter of Francos, I had already given up hope and began supporting Corinthe.

oh, I'm dutch 2!

Je weet dat ik aan jouw kant stond, misschien is voor jouw dit allemaal over, maar voor anderen is dit nog lang niet over. Hopelijk werkt het nog steeds wat ik nu wil proberen.

This all remembers that I badly need to do math after school.
27-10-2003, 13:49
Ok, I don't know what's going on, but bye anyway :)
27-10-2003, 13:50
We shoudl all remember that it failed due to a certain corrupt moderator who made us leave by lying to us. (Neutered)
Ballotonia
27-10-2003, 14:01
We shoudl all remember that it failed due to a certain corrupt moderator who made us leave by lying to us. (Neutered)

I don't think calling him 'corrupt' is fair to Neut. At least I've seen no evidence to support that assumption. What I do see is a lack of direction for this game, causing confusion even for mods in determining when to intervene and when not. Not knowing what to expect is also highly frustrating for players, especially when they've become emotionally involved in the game like Corinthe.

It can be very enjoyable when a game gets exciting, but when players get the impression they don't have a 'fair chance' this can easily lead to annoyances, frustration, and even anger. That's when the fun stops completely, for both the player and whomever these feelings end up being vented at (often mods).

Ballotonia
Myrth
27-10-2003, 14:05
What I find unfair is that we were promised a recreation of the 'Glitch' if the ruling was overturn after the UN updated. The ruling was overturned just an hour before the UN updated.
I find this very underhand and unfair. Corinthe had already lost a lot of endorsements by this point so it mattered not.
I think the glitch should still be recreated.
Leire
27-10-2003, 14:07
What I find unfair is that we were promised a recreation of the 'Glitch' if the ruling was overturn after the UN updated. The ruling was overturned just an hour before the UN updated.
I find this very underhand and unfair. Corinthe had already lost a lot of endorsements by this point so it mattered not.
I think the glitch should still be recreated.
Still at a random point in time though, so as everyone isn't prepared
27-10-2003, 14:08
Goodbye Corinthe. You were a good player, and I'll be very sad to see you go.

~Goobergunchia
Fyreheart
27-10-2003, 14:19
Corinthe, I shall miss you. The game has lost a great player.

This whole situatuion saddens me.
Tactical Grace
27-10-2003, 14:50
:cry: [Hugs Corinthe] It is a shame I only knew you a short time, but you were one of the truest players. I have seen people like you come and go, and you are all missed. But I understand what you are saying, controlling that many nations, watching over that many regions, you had to burn out sometime. It is sad, but it has to end for all of us some day. Enjoy life, I am sure you will find another passion. Goodbye.
Ackbar
27-10-2003, 15:12
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If you only played the game for one reason, it is a shame. You have provided a lot to the game, though it is sad to see what looks like a “If I can’t have my way, I’m gone” attitude. No offence meant, but that’s what it seems like. And if you really did play the game for The Pacific, you came less then a dozen endorsements from taking the region back, so you are quitting now why?
Freemon
27-10-2003, 15:19
Corinthe leaving.

I know of a great many that are leaving because of the *&%$ of this weekend. Really sucks that good players are leaving because while greifers are being treated as PETS.
Cogitation
27-10-2003, 15:20
It's been good knowing you, Corinthe. But you do have to keep real life in mind. :(

A little bit of advice: If you're going to stay up late, do it on weekends, okay? :wink:

Good Luck to you in everything that you do. If you come back, please try to balance time on NationStates with time in real life.

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27-10-2003, 15:36
We shoudl all remember that it failed due to a certain corrupt moderator who made us leave by lying to us. (Neutered)

That's not fair! I have many spies, and I know alot more about other players than you can imagine. Actually Neut was with me all the way. He even endorsed me with his secret puppet, who I knew from the grieving in the Spuitjes region. Neut simply had the game in mind and the rules in mind. His "game"mind supported me, but I had to stick to fair-play. You can't imagine how fair Neut is, as it comes to game-play. Actually Neut does often the dirty work for other mods. He is the mod with the highest death-rate :)
Neut was never in favor of Francos. NEVER EVER!
imported_Zandra
27-10-2003, 15:38
cor, weet je dat zeker?
is dat waar?
dat had ik nou echt niet verwacht van hem..

CG
27-10-2003, 15:40
It's been good knowing you, Corinthe. But you do have to keep real life in mind. :(

A little bit of advice: If you're going to stay up late, do it on weekends, okay? :wink:

Good Luck to you in everything that you do. If you come back, please try to balance time on NationStates with time in real life.

I made my parents believe that I was sleeping (I had to go to school today), and that was wrong of me. RL is much more important than this game should ever be.
Btw, the maximum endorsements, before people started leaving The Pacific, was 157. Techically, I pwnd him :wink:
27-10-2003, 15:42
en gefeliciteerd daarvoor
27-10-2003, 15:43
en gefeliciteerd daarvoor

thnx :wink:
imported_Zandra
27-10-2003, 15:45
yep, goed werk, cor, ook al is het niet afgelopen zoals we graag wilden, zijn we toch trots op je ;)
Ackbar
27-10-2003, 15:45
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If you only played the game for one reason, it is a shame. You have provided a lot to the game, though it is sad to see what looks like a “If I can’t have my way, I’m gone” attitude. No offence meant, but that’s what it seems like. And if you really did play the game for The Pacific, you came less then a dozen endorsements from taking the region back, so you are quitting now why?

You certainly don't have to respond Corinthe, but would be interested to see if you had a response.
HC Eredivisie
27-10-2003, 15:46
the Spuitjes region

Spruitjes perhaps?
Bistmath
27-10-2003, 15:48
We shoudl all remember that it failed due to a certain corrupt moderator who made us leave by lying to us. (Neutered)

he didn't lie. he was lied to. or the decision was changed. whatever.

anyways. corinthe, we came close didn't we? we'll come close again.
Thelas
27-10-2003, 15:56
hey, je mag zelfs met al je poppetjes naar een van mijn regio's komen..
maar je hebt zelf ook al zoveel regio's..
die laat je toch niet zonder founder zitten?

Het is maar een spel. Die regios druppelen vanzelf leeg, en dan verdwijnen ze. Ik heb altijd veel moeite moeten doen om de regios in beweging te houden. Ze liepen altijd naar een smoes te zoeken om een hekel aan me te krijgen, zodat ze een eigen region konden beginnen. België is ook een begraafplaats geworden. Ik mag dit niet meer spelen van mijn ouders omdat ik te emotioneel betrokken raakte bij bepaalde zaken. In het geval van de Pacific vergat ik helemaal dat het maar een spel is. Ik meende al die dingen, als vrijheid enzo echt. Ik had gewoon een politiek spelletje moeten spelen, net als al degenen die voor hun hulp in The Pacific iets terug vroegen als ik won.
Ik voelde me echt een vrijheidsstrijder :(

hey, I can uderstand the Articles! (From a Deutch speaker)

But, sorry to see you go. Really, Really sorry. I was thinking that you would become a mod some day. Hope you have good luck.
27-10-2003, 16:01
the Spuitjes region

Spruitjes perhaps?

kdenk het ook ;)
27-10-2003, 16:06
You certainly don't have to respond Corinthe, but would be interested to see if you had a response.

I was thinking about an answer, because this is a tough nut to crack. I do more than 70 issues every day. Believe me, even the new issues get boring after 4 or 5 days.
Than, I started to weave a web of friends, to come and live in my many regions. I like all of you, but as soon as friends came to live in my regions, they slowly started to fall asleep. I can entertain people for a long time, but it becomes teadious when people don't respond on topics I started, or sometimes they'd let me wait for 2 (or more) day on an answer. Thus I started to spie on Blue Moon and friends :P, but sinds these guys proved to avoid major battles in their region crashing, that became boring too. Suddenly a new leader rises in The Pacific, who, for some reason everone started to hate. I saw war opportunities, forming allies and secretly creating armies scatered all over NationStates, so nobody knew how many soldiers I could call for, as the opportunity came. I found a bug in the banlist numbers, so I stimulated people to get as many nations on that banlist as possible, because I knew it would start to bug after a certain number. I tried some assaults on Francos, just to test how fast he was, and how fast I could raise an army. I found out, that raising an army was very difficult, so I had to stimulate my friends some way. They would only help me in great numbers if they thought they could win. The first test was, when Francos fooled us (not me) in being off for a few days. I used it as a test. The final assault was prepared. All other stuff in this game had become boring. Austing Francos was all what mattered. Than the glitch/bug came, and the rest is known history. Everyting else I did; Spying on you guys, issues, forming alliancies, spotting griefers, creating regions was already very boring, because I did that all the time. The biggest region, I ever was founder of, was 90 nations on his peek. But these guys didn't like me much, because I'm actually just a 15 yo (little) girl. My age and way of thinking was a handicap in this game. Has been all the time. :x
Tactical Grace
27-10-2003, 16:12
Was your age really that important? The region I serve was ruled by a 15 year old girl too, until she left. She was a great leader too. I can understand your agenda now, and I have to say, it sounds as though you were a hell of a lot more organised and dedicated than virtually all other players. But I think that that strength was also your real weakness. It had to get you, in the end. Maybe Francos Spain will get burnout too. :twisted:
27-10-2003, 16:15
I do hope that one day you will return to nationstates

after all, you never posted in Het Nederlandse Topic ;)
imported_Zandra
27-10-2003, 16:16
misschien heeft ze dat wel gedaan, maar met een poppetje?
Omz222
27-10-2003, 16:16
15 years old!? Don't feel too young here, I'm 13 :twisted:
27-10-2003, 16:17
Was your age really that important? The region I serve was ruled by a 15 year old girl too, until she left. She was a great leader too. I can understand your agenda now, and I have to say, it sounds as though you were a hell of a lot more organised and dedicated than virtually all other players. But I think that that strength was also your real weakness. It had to get you, in the end. Maybe Francos Spain will get burnout too. :twisted:
I should have made only one region, which would have become very big, I'm sure. But after having more than 15 regions, only 1 would have been just one.
Leire
27-10-2003, 16:18
Even if you feel you were held back by your age, you were still an exemplory player. And you might yet get another chance at Francos, NS still has plenty of bugs to go.
27-10-2003, 16:18
misschien heeft ze dat wel gedaan, maar met een poppetje?

zou kunne, maar dan toch zonder sig ;)
27-10-2003, 16:18
I do hope that one day you will return to nationstates

after all, you never posted in Het Nederlandse Topic ;)

I was in Belgium, Vlaanderen, Holland, Nederland and Lijst0.
Ackbar
27-10-2003, 16:18
You certainly don't have to respond Corinthe, but would be interested to see if you had a response.

I was thinking about an answer, because this is a tough nut to crack. I do more than 70 issues every day. Believe me, even the new issues get boring after 4 or 5 days.
Than, I started to weave a web of friends, to come and live in my many regions. I like all of you, but as soon as friends came to live in my regions, they slowly started to fall asleep. I can entertain people for a long time, but it becomes teadious when people don't respond on topics I started, or sometimes they'd let me wait for 2 (or more) day on an answer. Thus I started to spie on Blue Moon and friends :P, but sinds these guys proved to avoid major battles in their region crashing, that became boring too. Suddenly a new leader rises in The Pacific, who, for some reason everone started to hate. I saw war opportunities, forming allies and secretly creating armies scatered all over NationStates, so nobody knew how many soldiers I could call for, as the opportunity came. I found a bug in the banlist numbers, so I stimulated people to get as many nations on that banlist as possible, because I knew it would start to bug after a certain number. I tried some assaults on Francos, just to test how fast he was, and how fast I could raise an army. I found out, that raising an army was very difficult, so I had to stimulate my friends some way. They would only help me in great numbers if they thought they could win. The first test was, when Francos fooled us (not me) in being off for a few days. I used it as a test. The final assault was prepared. All other stuff in this game had become boring. Austing Francos was all what mattered. Than the glitch/bug came, and the rest is known history. Everyting else I did; Spying on you guys, issues, forming alliancies, spotting griefers, creating regions was already very boring, because I did that all the time. The biggest region, I ever was founder of, was 90 nations on his peek. But these guys didn't like me much, because I'm actually just a 15 yo (little) girl. My age and way of thinking was a handicap in this game. Has been all the time. :x

Thank you. I can understand that this is a hard thing for you top have done, and you spent a lot of stress and sweat to get everyone together. The thing to me, and it is your game so I don't wish to step across or disregard your hard time-- but shouldn't overcoming prejuidice against your age and gender, to come just under 7 or so nations under defeating FS with very little planning, shouldn't this give you encouragment to continue, rahter then spurn you to leave the issue? You were not only the most succesful attempt, you were in many ways absolutely sucessful.

Either way, if you decide to continue in the game and your attempt against FS, please TM me. I have been working on an interesting page, with some interesting nations trying to get some more planning on the FS issue. You almost proved me worng on this one, because I think that it s only through absoltle tco-operation that the region can be taken back.
27-10-2003, 16:19
I was in 000_Witloof en Spruitjes_000
Tactical Grace
27-10-2003, 16:21
Like all great empires, you over-stretched yourself. It is interesting, how many aspects of real-world power politics this game reflects, despite its deceptively simple appearance.

Say, if you are leaving, what happens to the other Corinthe? :wink:
27-10-2003, 16:25
Like all great empires, you over-stretched yourself. It is interesting, how many aspects of real-world power politics this game reflects, despite its deceptively simple appearance.

Say, if you are leaving, what happens to the other Corinthe? :wink:

Corinthe might become delegate in the RR :P On vacation mode (Corinthe has always been in vacation mode). You're a mod, but I bet you think that Corinthe is my main Nation :) Actually my main nation was created for spying purposes.

Btw, I was in 000 Witlof en Spruitjes 000 after it got griefed :wink:
Leire
27-10-2003, 16:27
Was your age really that important? The region I serve was ruled by a 15 year old girl too, until she left. She was a great leader too. I can understand your agenda now, and I have to say, it sounds as though you were a hell of a lot more organised and dedicated than virtually all other players. But I think that that strength was also your real weakness. It had to get you, in the end. Maybe Francos Spain will get burnout too. :twisted:
I should have made only one region, which would have become very big, I'm sure. But after having more than 15 regions, only 1 would have been just one.

Build it now. You could have a massive region with all the allies you've got. You'd be a HUGE power.
27-10-2003, 16:27
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27-10-2003, 16:29
What happened? Sorry to be dense but I'm a newbie - 5 days to be exact! Suddenly I wake up and find that I'm banned from my region! Could someone explain what I did to upset whoever banned me?

Boo Hoo! :shock:

You endorced me, and I was the enemy. Tough brake :P
The SLAGLands
27-10-2003, 16:45
Corinthe, try to tough it out for the next 24 hours or so... I need to have a talk with some people. ¬_¬
27-10-2003, 16:47
Corinthe, try to tough it out for the next 24 hours or so... I need to have a talk with some people. ¬_¬

I'm here to make sure that it doesn't become a hate-mod thread. My father warned me for that 8)
27-10-2003, 16:48
lol, your father is quite informed on nationstate matters :wink:
Tactical Grace
27-10-2003, 16:49
I'm here to make sure that it doesn't become a hate-mod thread. My father warned me for that 8)
Huh? :? Warned you why? I am confused by this remark.
The SLAGLands
27-10-2003, 16:51
Tact, if you're handy and capable, get thee to IRC and the Mod Cave. We need to talk.
27-10-2003, 16:51
I'm here to make sure that it doesn't become a hate-mod thread. My father warned me for that 8)
Huh? :? Warned you why? I am confused by this remark.

My attack failed because of mod intervention, if it wasn't for Neut asking me to leave, I would have pwnd Francos with almost 200 endorsements :P
Tactical Grace
27-10-2003, 17:00
My attack failed because of mod intervention, if it wasn't for Neut asking me to leave, I would have pwnd Francos with almost 200 endorsements :P
Well, countless RL nations have a glorious defeat which they remember with pride. Nothing wrong with that. Hold your head high, girl, you played the game well. :)
Tactical Grace
27-10-2003, 17:01
Tact, if you're handy and capable, get thee to IRC and the Mod Cave. We need to talk.
:shock: Uh-oh. Um, give me 20 minutes, OK? I have a bus to catch to get to my other computer.
Heavyhanded dictators
27-10-2003, 17:02
yupp over 200 Corinthe. You had help coming.


I say install Corinthe as delegate.
Dread Lady Nathicana
27-10-2003, 17:03
Alright. I tend to stay out of these debates, because frankly, I don't enjoy the regional silliness that goes on. However ... I've a few opinions to make clear, wanted or not.

There was a glitch, this much I understand. There are far and away too many regions for the few mods we have to go back in one at a time and try to put it all back as it was. This, I think, should be obvious to all - nevermind the fact that all they have to go on is people's statements as to who was and wasn't the representative before it went haywire.

Now listen, and listen good. REGARDLESS of the above facts, if a representative DESERVED the endorsements they had, it would be an EASY thing to regain them, and take back their position. Easy. Simple. Not hard at all to do. If they didn't deserve them, well ... let the region folks vote - as it's always been. No mod intervention needed or warranted. Why all the fuss?

I'm going to say right here and now that you, Neut, were out of line and have gone against an earlier ruling and statement you made not too long ago which I quote here:


It is not the position of the Moderators, nor the Administrators, of this site to dictate political happenings in a region.

This being the case, what the hell were you thinking, boy? Frankly, it was none of your damned business to interfere. I honestly couldn't care less, Corinthe or Francos - I don't know either. What I do know is that such things have been tolerated and encouraged as game play in the past by you and others, and regardless of the fact that this particular one was caused by a bug, it should make no nevermind. The situation was taking care of itself, and you should have stepped back and let it be resolved by the players.

It's as simple as that. And honestly, I'm quite disappointed.
Kurai Nami
27-10-2003, 17:03
*Wonders why TG just does'nt use the MOD Mobile, it should take him quickly to the MOD Cave*
Freemon
27-10-2003, 17:20
Quick use the MOD cominnictor.
Yeppiers MODman :roll:
27-10-2003, 18:10
NOOOOOOOOO, what's the use of this puppet now corinthe's gone
Juxtapositions
27-10-2003, 18:26
Corinthe, try to tough it out for the next 24 hours or so... I need to have a talk with some people. ¬_¬

Tact, if you're handy and capable, get thee to IRC and the Mod Cave. We need to talk.

You must be kidding. Wasn't last night enough intervention?
Dread Lady Nathicana
27-10-2003, 18:34
Don't be an ass. Ever stop to think that perhaps, just perhaps, the mods would like this game to run nice for as many people as possible, and that *gasp* they just might be only human, might not all be on all the friggin time, can't always get to everything all at once, and are most likely trying to do the best they can?

I swear. The more I hear about some of you who think you know it all, and think you have a finger on all the angles, the more grateful I am that I don't usually get involved in all this stupidity. No wonder y'all are so damned uptight and pissy. Get a grip.
Juxtapositions
27-10-2003, 18:49
Don't be an ass. Ever stop to think that perhaps, just perhaps, the mods would like this game to run nice for as many people as possible, and that *gasp* they just might be only human, might not all be on all the friggin time, can't always get to everything all at once, and are most likely trying to do the best they can?

I swear. The more I hear about some of you who think you know it all, and think you have a finger on all the angles, the more grateful I am that I don't usually get involved in all this stupidity. No wonder y'all are so damned uptight and pissy. Get a grip.

I'm sorry. I forgot that not all of us are adults. Next time please respond in a manner that makes you look less like an angry 12 yr. old.

If you look over the events of the last day you would notice that had the mods not done anything, as they have done in the past during a glitch, Corinthe would have been delegate of the Pacific and none of these discussions would be taking place.

When you interefere with a system you should know the outcome of that interference. When you are dealing with human beings there is no way that you can know the outcome, especially a group of human beings. Now it appears the interference is taking place again. Why? Does anyone know the result will be different? No, there is no way you can. Let nature take it's course and stop interferring.

This all hinges on the idea that the moderators don't delete Francos or take some other equally drastic step.
27-10-2003, 18:49
Don't be an ass. Ever stop to think that perhaps, just perhaps, the mods would like this game to run nice for as many people as possible, and that *gasp* they just might be only human, might not all be on all the friggin time, can't always get to everything all at once, and are most likely trying to do the best they can?

I swear. The more I hear about some of you who think you know it all, and think you have a finger on all the angles, the more grateful I am that I don't usually get involved in all this stupidity. No wonder y'all are so damned uptight and pissy. Get a grip.

Holds up a mirror.
Myrth
27-10-2003, 18:50
http://www.ileet.net/junk/misc/misc18.jpg
SalusaSecondus
27-10-2003, 18:59
Ok, I think that a good point has been made. However, I'm not going to lock it yet because I think that there exists the potential for some good.

All flaming will stop now, both of other players, AND of the moderators.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/salusasecondus/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
27-10-2003, 19:02
whahahhaahhaa,it's BBQ time

NationStates Addict and how I handle it!

Well I'm also a 15 year old (dutch) nationstates player, (do you tell your friends about this game? I never, don't want to be a nerd)

I just play NS for a few minutes in the morning, just checking if something new happened and if it does I eat my breakfast next to the computer, checking everything.

Then off to school, because I have a lot of things with computers I usually can check NationStates at school.

After school I first (try) to do my homework, ALWAYS do this, I fucked up my first 2 years of school due to this and now I'm doing VMBO! (only dutch people understand that) Luckily I have a math teacher that is a asshole and that forces me to do my homework (anybody know how it is to stay at school, three hours long, writing things, I can tell you it sucks.

After homework I do nationstates for a while, after that I stare out of the window, rethinking about life, thinking about the meaning of life, I get bored from this after 10 seconds and start doing nationstates again untill diner.

This way I can play nationstates balanced, I never managed to play it the whole night!
Atlantian Outcasts
27-10-2003, 19:07
*walks in, sees place burning down, runs out*
27-10-2003, 19:13
Corinthe was chosen as the best existing choice for freedom in the pacific. It would be a shame if she left the game due to injustice by the game. If however Corinthe is leaving the game because the game has interfered with her R/L, That is understandable. The way this looks though I think Corinthe might stick around for a day or two to see if the Mod Squad decide that she rightfully would have taken the Delegate position. It is rediculous at this point to try and reset anything to the way it was before and then try to have a free day for endorsing as most of the liberating nations have been banned and will need notice of at least 24 hours to ready a UN nation that is able to be in the Pacific. As an active supporter of freedom and democracy throughout the NS World I would personally request you stick around for a few days to see if the mods can't do the right thing.

When I signed of last at about 1:00am EST Corinthe was ahead and was still gaining more support.

Corinthe, one word of advice. Don't let this game interfere too much. School is very important.
27-10-2003, 19:27
If Francos deserved his position as a delegate, an invasion would have been utterly impossible. He would have gathered his friends and endorsees to fight against me, but he couldn't. He managed to gather about 5 friends, no more, to give him the edge he needed. I'm an invader, and I shouldn't have had no friend at all in The Pacific, but I did. At least 50% of my endorsees were natives being glad they got a chance get rid of their dictator. The difference between Francos and me was, that actually I have friends, while his endorsees were days inactive natives, who still don't have a clue what happened. Nottingg and some others were actually invaders too, who just didn't agree with me abusing the glitch/bug.
Bistmath
27-10-2003, 19:31
*passes out asbestos suits* here everyone. thanks for keeping my economy going. don't worry they're hermetically sealed. guarunteed not to cause cancer.

all kidding aside. what will happen in the next 24? if we are going back then there will be a hell of a lot of work to do. i know i was booted from the pacific. lots of others will be too. not to mention un statuses. i know i canned the un from the one nation i was using last night.

at the very least the revolt will force francos to loosen up. now we know he's got an upper limit of 200 banned nations i think he will have to start making better choices. and i think the players know this.

that being said. rebel forces, do not use griefing as a stratagy.
Juxtapositions
27-10-2003, 19:35
He would have gathered his friends and endorsees to fight against me, but he couldn't. He managed to gather about 5 friends, no more, to give him the edge he needed.

Hmmm, an assumption here is that Francos needed more endorsements than the 5 that came over. If he didn't need more endorsements why call on more? I think only because 5 were seen doesn't mean that he only has five friends. It would be a dangerous assumption to believe so.

It is obvious that you have a lot of people pulling for you though. You should stick around if for no other reason than to make it exciting!
27-10-2003, 19:44
Hmmm, an assumption here is that Francos needed more endorsements than the 5 that came over.

those 5, and the 30 I lost, who were driven away by the Neut treatening to strip them from the UN (I'm not sure, because I had lag and a empty screen all the time) and eject them from the Pacific.
Neutered Sputniks
27-10-2003, 19:49
I made no threats to UN Memberships. I threatened ejection from the region.
27-10-2003, 19:54
I made no threats to UN Memberships. I threatened ejection from the region.

I stated in the civil HQ that my connection was going bad, and I needed some words of what was happening. Just ejection would have been enough though.
Bistmath
27-10-2003, 20:08
I made no threats to UN Memberships. I threatened ejection from the region.

that's not the information i was given. even after asking you directly both on the regional board and off for clairification. i ordered the sp forces out because i thougth you were going to go ballistic and have them stripped. had this not have happened i would have let them stay.
Neutered Sputniks
27-10-2003, 20:09
The Pacific board was moving quite fast last night, and many messages were cleared before the intended recipients could even read them.
Gesamtkuntswerk
27-10-2003, 20:35
It really was a blitz fest... I had to continually repost my messages, just to make sure the intended recipients actually saw it. (IE you)
27-10-2003, 20:36
Is someone being irresponsible here?
Bistmath
27-10-2003, 20:45
The Pacific board was moving quite fast last night, and many messages were cleared before the intended recipients could even read them.

yes, but i believe i was also writing you tg's. and rewriting them as i thought you'd be deluged that way too. and i didn't get any information from you except that about my own nation there.
NuMetal
27-10-2003, 21:16
Don't leave Corinthe :cry:
Bistmath
27-10-2003, 21:17
neut, i just thought of something. why didn't you disabuse me of the notion that my people would be harmed when i started asking violet to make sure they would remain unmolested?
27-10-2003, 21:31
Hmmm, an assumption here is that Francos needed more endorsements than the 5 that came over.

those 5, and the 30 I lost, who were driven away by the Neut treatening to strip them from the UN (I'm not sure, because I had lag and a empty screen all the time) and eject them from the Pacific.

Don't forget that Francos was told he had nothing to worry about and then with 1 hour to go [violet] reversed that. His supporters may have been told everything was safe and that they didn't have to move in. Don't assume you are the only one with friends. You have many nations blindly following you because of the sheer amount of propoganda you stuff down their throats.
Neutered Sputniks
27-10-2003, 21:34
neut, i just thought of something. why didn't you disabuse me of the notion that my people would be harmed when i started asking violet to make sure they would remain unmolested?

I left last night to take care of business quite quickly following [violet]'s initial appearance and my follow-up post.
Myrth
27-10-2003, 21:47
Hmmm, an assumption here is that Francos needed more endorsements than the 5 that came over.

those 5, and the 30 I lost, who were driven away by the Neut treatening to strip them from the UN (I'm not sure, because I had lag and a empty screen all the time) and eject them from the Pacific.

Don't forget that Francos was told he had nothing to worry about and then with 1 hour to go [violet] reversed that. His supporters may have been told everything was safe and that they didn't have to move in. Don't assume you are the only one with friends. You have many nations blindly following you because of the sheer amount of propoganda you stuff down their throats.

Corinthe had nations following her because Francos Spain is quite probably the most hated person in the game.
Bistmath
27-10-2003, 21:48
neut, i just thought of something. why didn't you disabuse me of the notion that my people would be harmed when i started asking violet to make sure they would remain unmolested?

I left last night to take care of business quite quickly following [violet]'s initial appearance and my follow-up post.

okay thank you.
27-10-2003, 21:50
Corinthe had nations following her because Francos Spain is quite probably the most hated person in the game.

That may be true, but it doesn't mean everyone hates him.
Gesamtkuntswerk
27-10-2003, 22:11
I don't hate him.

I also don't see what hate has to do with this.
TROUSRS
27-10-2003, 22:28
Why are you leaving?
Tisonica
27-10-2003, 22:31
Hold on a second, the deciscion WAS overturned? Well then why aren't we having what nuet said we would?
Bardai
27-10-2003, 22:49
Corinthe, you mut be joking. If you have fought in ANY liberation previous to the Pacific, you KNOW that now is not the moment to quit. Francos may have won a battle, but definitely not the war.

I am truly sorry if this has affected you IRL, but as I said above, this is not the moment to throw in the towel. At least stay a couple more days and see if the mods actually do anything about this.

Please don't leave us, NS needs people like you! :wink:
Myrth
27-10-2003, 22:52
Hold on a second, the deciscion WAS overturned? Well then why aren't we having what nuet said we would?

Neut made a promise he couldn't keep.
Fyreheart
27-10-2003, 23:02
Neut did no such thing.

People, it was a GLITCH! It wasn't supposed to happen! How in the **** are they supposed to know exactly what to do in circumstances not expected and that will probably be a one time deal?

I'm really fed up with that NS community right now. I'm taking the rest of the day off before I get deleted.
Fyreheart
27-10-2003, 23:03
Tisonica
27-10-2003, 23:14
Neut did no such thing.

People, it was a GLITCH! It wasn't supposed to happen! How in the **** are they supposed to know exactly what to do in circumstances not expected and that will probably be a one time deal?

I'm really fed up with that NS community right now. I'm taking the rest of the day off before I get deleted.

Actaully he did promise that, I was there when he did it. And he made his final warnign before he clarified whether he would be ejecting people from the UN or just from the region, so there really is no way to sugarcoat it. Neut made a mistake.

I just don't see why they don't go ahead and re-create it anywyas, it is what neut said they were going to do, is it because it is not possible?
Neutered Sputniks
27-10-2003, 23:23
Actually, I did respond a number of times that I would only eject players from the region, not from the UN. However, the speed of the board kept the people that were asking from viewing my reply.
Tisonica
27-10-2003, 23:31
Actually, I did respond a number of times that I would only eject players from the region, not from the UN. However, the speed of the board kept the people that were asking from viewing my reply.

Which is why it probably should have been posted somewhere, if it was then that does help your case signifigantly. However, the the fact that the speed of the board did keep bumping your responses off means that many people most likely DID think that theyw ould be ejected from the UN. I remember you specifically writing that "this was your final warning" long before you explained that people would not be ejected from the UN.

You did (at the time I was online) look like you were trying your best to answer peoples questions and tell people what was exactly going down, but sometimes peoples best isn't enough. If a police officer tries his best to tell the person thier Miranda Rights but fails to do so, any evidence gained in interregation is still thrown out (I know that is a hard metaphor to relate but you get the idea).
Kramerica Embassy
27-10-2003, 23:36
Corinthe was the best thing to happen to the region and then the mods destroyed the whole effort

which technically was a legal effort

the mods stopped the effort because FS didnt have the ability to ban nations during the glitch
:evil:
Leire
27-10-2003, 23:37
Actually, I did respond a number of times that I would only eject players from the region, not from the UN. However, the speed of the board kept the people that were asking from viewing my reply.
Factbook entry?
Neutered Sputniks
27-10-2003, 23:37
Last night was more like a police officer trying to break up a riot, and not being able to read everyone their miranda rights all at the same time. So he does the best he can, and then when the Mob's broken up, retires to read the miranda rights to whomever it applies to.
Tisonica
27-10-2003, 23:42
Last night was more like a police officer trying to break up a riot, and not being able to read everyone their miranda rights all at the same time. So he does the best he can, and then when the Mob's broken up, retires to read the miranda rights to whomever it applies to.

I think you need to take more aspects of the situation into your metaphor.

It would be more like if he was trying to read the miranda rights to the people, but couldn't, and then they all confessed to crimes they were commiting (I know, the metaphor is still crappy) the confessions still wouldn't be admissible in court.
Tactical Grace
27-10-2003, 23:46
I just don't see why they don't go ahead and re-create it anywyas, it is what neut said they were going to do, is it because it is not possible?
]I am not going to deliberately duplicate these circumstances, because they should never have arisen in the first place. This wasn't planned! It was a bizarre accident. By rights the window of opportunity should never have been open. But it was.
Leire
28-10-2003, 00:00
I just don't see why they don't go ahead and re-create it anywyas, it is what neut said they were going to do, is it because it is not possible?
]I am not going to deliberately duplicate these circumstances, because they should never have arisen in the first place. This wasn't planned! It was a bizarre accident. By rights the window of opportunity should never have been open. But it was.
But the closing of the window shouldn't have happened either. :?
Qaaolchoura
28-10-2003, 00:07
Please let this be a ploy to get attention like all "I'm leaving" threads since I've been here(except Albion Soviets's) have.

Who will report the greifers for us if you leave?

And I never actually found out where your forum is.
Qaaolchoura
28-10-2003, 00:07
Please let this be a ploy to get attention like all "I'm leaving" threads since I've been here(except Albion Soviets's) have.

Who will report the greifers for us if you leave?

And I never actually found out where your forum is.
28-10-2003, 00:07
----Post deleted,don't want anymore enimies ;)----
28-10-2003, 00:12
Last night was more like a police officer trying to break up a riot, and not being able to read everyone their miranda rights all at the same time. So he does the best he can, and then when the Mob's broken up, retires to read the miranda rights to whomever it applies to.

It is more like a cop reading the miranda rights to a crowd of innocent people attempting to put out a burning building. Then after the building burns saying oops I thought they were torching it.
SalusaSecondus
28-10-2003, 00:33
Last night was more like a police officer trying to break up a riot, and not being able to read everyone their miranda rights all at the same time. So he does the best he can, and then when the Mob's broken up, retires to read the miranda rights to whomever it applies to.

As one of the officials lending support last night, I cannot think of a better analogy.
Tactical Grace
28-10-2003, 00:40
And I never actually found out where your forum is.
http://www.freewebs.com/corinthe/ (Pacific Freedom Force)
Qaaolchoura
28-10-2003, 00:46
And I never actually found out where your forum is.
http://www.freewebs.com/corinthe/ (Pacific Freedom Force)
I'd assumed that that was her website since it was freewebz, and never actually scoured it for a forum.

Thanks TG.
28-10-2003, 00:50
:idea: I am sorry to see you go Corinthe, but I understand how obsessive the game can be and if this is something you need to do... then only you know... good luck...

let's look on the bright side, we experienced a political coup... and saw the Mods swamped in the midst... just like in the real world, when they tried to help, it only made things worse, but had they done nothing it would have been an acceptance of total anarchy.... the game is taking a life of its own and that's pretty damn cool when you think about it!!!
28-10-2003, 01:00
You certainly don't have to respond Corinthe, but would be interested to see if you had a response.

I was thinking about an answer, because this is a tough nut to crack. I do more than 70 issues every day. Believe me, even the new issues get boring after 4 or 5 days.
Than, I started to weave a web of friends, to come and live in my many regions. I like all of you, but as soon as friends came to live in my regions, they slowly started to fall asleep. I can entertain people for a long time, but it becomes teadious when people don't respond on topics I started, or sometimes they'd let me wait for 2 (or more) day on an answer. Thus I started to spie on Blue Moon and friends :P, but sinds these guys proved to avoid major battles in their region crashing, that became boring too. Suddenly a new leader rises in The Pacific, who, for some reason everone started to hate. I saw war opportunities, forming allies and secretly creating armies scatered all over NationStates, so nobody knew how many soldiers I could call for, as the opportunity came. I found a bug in the banlist numbers, so I stimulated people to get as many nations on that banlist as possible, because I knew it would start to bug after a certain number. I tried some assaults on Francos, just to test how fast he was, and how fast I could raise an army. I found out, that raising an army was very difficult, so I had to stimulate my friends some way. They would only help me in great numbers if they thought they could win. The first test was, when Francos fooled us (not me) in being off for a few days. I used it as a test. The final assault was prepared. All other stuff in this game had become boring. Austing Francos was all what mattered. Than the glitch/bug came, and the rest is known history. Everyting else I did; Spying on you guys, issues, forming alliancies, spotting griefers, creating regions was already very boring, because I did that all the time. The biggest region, I ever was founder of, was 90 nations on his peek. But these guys didn't like me much, because I'm actually just a 15 yo (little) girl. My age and way of thinking was a handicap in this game. Has been all the time. :x

:idea: are you related to Machiavelli... do you realize that you have a knack for geo-politics... don't be discouraged by this loss, remember that "the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry"
Juskalherria
28-10-2003, 01:44
Corinthe, please set your favorite nations in vacation mode, get some well deserved rest, catch up on school and COME BACK. So what if you're 15. So what if you're a girl. Hua Mu Lan was a girl in China and she became a general because she proved she could lead (and she didn't end up like Jeanne D'Arc either). We are yours to command.
Cogitation
28-10-2003, 04:35
Corinthe, please set your favorite nations in vacation mode, get some well deserved rest, catch up on school and COME BACK.

If you can balance NS with real life (and not stay up on school nights), then please do come back, eventually. :)

It might also be a good idea to make sure you're parents aren't mad at you anymore for not being asleep. :wink:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
28-10-2003, 06:44
I just don't see why they don't go ahead and re-create it anywyas, it is what neut said they were going to do, is it because it is not possible?
]I am not going to deliberately duplicate these circumstances, because they should never have arisen in the first place. This wasn't planned! It was a bizarre accident. By rights the window of opportunity should never have been open. But it was.
A poor choice, albiet one made on short notice. [violet] undermined Neutered Sputnik's credibility. The result will be that people will think things like:

well after last night I learned 1 thing, never listen to a mod on things that need to be confirmed with the admin


Neutered Sputniks probably trusted that he would be allowed to deliver on his promise should the need arise. That trust was violated.

The one good thing to come out of this sorry mess is that [violet] seems to have finally set policy regarding game bugs.

Neut, I apologize for having called you partial last week. I was wrong.
28-10-2003, 10:48
Corinthe, please set your favorite nations in vacation mode, get some well deserved rest, catch up on school and COME BACK.

If you can balance NS with real life (and not stay up on school nights), then please do come back, eventually. :)

It might also be a good idea to make sure you're parents aren't mad at you anymore for not being asleep. :wink:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

I know you people will hold this against me, because I prove to be a kid with this, but my parents were exceptionally angry at me, because I cried all day bacause of a stupid computer game. I simply forgot that this was a game. Proves that I don't have much of a life here eh? :wink:

-=Corinthe=-
28-10-2003, 10:52
Don't leave Corinthe :cry:

My nation Corinthe will still be alive during the Christmas holidays :wink: if I counted correctly.

-=Corinthe=-
28-10-2003, 11:49
Have you Cried?!?!?!

I guess this was a big thing for you. I don't think I will cry about this, but I don't think I can just stop with playing this game.

Better tell people at your school that you had a headache or something because it will seriously damage your reputation if you are going to talk about NationStates.

We at our school have absention notes (translated) what are you going to write on it?
The Bruce
28-10-2003, 12:03
My Greetings to All and Sundry,

From what I saw of you in the Forums Corinthe, you were a positive force in the Nation States World. While sometimes it appeared as though you were tilting at the Windmills of the Pacific in vain, it is only through perseverance that such goals are realized. For such paths you must stay the course and take your lumps, find new paths, or fall by the wayside. You certainly were there to help the younger Nations of the World and a good many of them owe you thanks in their uncertain beginnings in the often predatory world of troublemakers.

Still, as many including myself have found, this game can be a tad addictive. You might want to take a break from the game and put your favourite States on vacation mode, to give you some time to think things through. If you are running more than 3-4 Nations to their highest (Issue) potential, then that’s just way too much. Set Issues to one per weekday on some you still want to develop, and freeze any that look about right and you only keep for distress of losing them. Try to keep yourself at only about 12 active Nations at most and spend some time living life. Running a zillion Nations to their full potential in any game is both draining and counter to why such games exist. Games cease to be games when they are no longer social contexts, challenges, and distraction, but instead succeed in pushing your real life completely out of the picture. If you have a panic attack because your Empire will crumble if you go away for the weekend, this is a good marker to show things might have gone too far in the wrong direction.

Go outside and enjoy some Sun or if you live in the northern hemisphere, go out and enjoy some rain and snow. Play sports, attend social settings, go out and see a movie, read a book, and remember that above all other things that this is a game. If you enjoy it you shouldn’t throw the experience away, but neither should you allow the game to be your sole experience at this time in your life.

Grande Elector Bruce

Dominion of the Bruce
Juskalherria
28-10-2003, 12:30
Corinthe, people cry for many reasons: anger, frustration and fatigue are some. Crying in private is not weakness. It can be a necessary release. You had a lot invested in the last couple of coup attempts and you came very close to succeeding. Maybe your parents aren't so much angry as they are concerned. Sometimes that comes out as anger. They are worried about you, that you were so involved in an on-line game. Anyway, do what is best for you. I don't think less of you for admitting that this last episode drove you to distraction. You're tough and honest to admit it. Best to you in whatever you chose to do. You've got what it takes.
Tactical Grace
28-10-2003, 16:39
I know you people will hold this against me, because I prove to be a kid with this, but my parents were exceptionally angry at me, because I cried all day bacause of a stupid computer game. I simply forgot that this was a game. Proves that I don't have much of a life here eh? :wink:
Corinthe, you only seem more human. There was nothing wrong with that, it meant a lot to you. Like I said, hold your head high. :)
Neutered Sputniks
28-10-2003, 16:41
Corinthe, it would appear that you've got a lot of support and well-wishers here. Add my name to the list ;)
Cogitation
28-10-2003, 17:07
I know you people will hold this against me, because I prove to be a kid with this, but my parents were exceptionally angry at me, because I cried all day bacause of a stupid computer game. I simply forgot that this was a game. Proves that I don't have much of a life here eh? :wink:

Hmmm.... :?

To be perfectly honest, I do hope that you come back to us, but it is evident to me that you need to spend a little time away from this game.

Maybe in a week or two, you'll feel better and you'll be ready to play again. :) (...and try not to make your parents mad again. Acing your next few tests in school might help. :wink: )

...and keep a note taped to your monitor: "NationStates is just a game; I should remember to get some sleep." :wink:

"Think about it for a moment."

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia
28-10-2003, 17:09
Corinthe, it would appear that you've got a lot of support and well-wishers here. Add my name to the list ;)

I knew that already. I wish you a good vacation and a healthy return. Seems like I'm the only one here that knew that you were supporting me to the end. I tried to defend you, but it got lost in the roar here :( You are always in defence of fair play.
Say hello to the Donkey from me :wink:
Have you Cried?!?!?!


I guess this was a big thing for you. I don't think I will cry about this, but I don't think I can just stop with playing this game.

Better tell people at your school that you had a headache or something because it will seriously damage your reputation if you are going to talk about NationStates.

We at our school have absention notes (translated) what are you going to write on it?

Kan jij proberen om Corinthe's forum weer leven in te blazen? Ik heb je foto naar een andere thread verplaatst. Mijn ouders hebben me ziek gemeld. Hoofdpijn en slaapgebrek.

-=Corinthe=-
The SLAGLands
28-10-2003, 17:15
I knew that already. I wish you a good vacation and a healthy return. Seems like I'm the only one here that knew that you were supporting me to the end. I tried to defend you, but it got lost in the roar here :( You are always in defence of fair play.
Say hello to the Donkey from me :wink:

Wow, this goes a long way to perpetuating the "Why don't people like KGB Informant just get on with their lives?" argument. Thanks, Corinthe. You rawk. ;)
Ackbar
28-10-2003, 17:22
Hmmm, an assumption here is that Francos needed more endorsements than the 5 that came over.

those 5, and the 30 I lost, who were driven away by the Neut treatening to strip them from the UN (I'm not sure, because I had lag and a empty screen all the time) and eject them from the Pacific.

Coritnhe, you left out this part of his quote:


It is obvious that you have a lot of people pulling for you though. You should stick around if for no other reason than to make it exciting!


Hmmm, an assumption here is that Francos needed more endorsements than the 5 that came over.

those 5, and the 30 I lost, who were driven away by the Neut treatening to strip them from the UN (I'm not sure, because I had lag and a empty screen all the time) and eject them from the Pacific.

Don't forget that Francos was told he had nothing to worry about and then with 1 hour to go [violet] reversed that. His supporters may have been told everything was safe and that they didn't have to move in.

Good point that has not yet really been considered.

Neut did no such thing.

People, it was a GLITCH! It wasn't supposed to happen! How in the **** are they supposed to know exactly what to do in circumstances not expected and that will probably be a one time deal?

I got no hate on Neut on this issue, but do fault your idea of "how shoudl they know..."

Well, they should create some guidelines for situations. This is not the first game glitch. They didn’t know this time, fine. I hope they get a protocol for next time.


Corinthe, please set your favorite nations in vacation mode, get some well deserved rest, catch up on school and COME BACK.

If you can balance NS with real life (and not stay up on school nights), then please do come back, eventually. :)

It might also be a good idea to make sure you're parents aren't mad at you anymore for not being asleep. :wink:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

I know you people will hold this against me, because I prove to be a kid with this, but my parents were exceptionally angry at me, because I cried all day bacause of a stupid computer game. I simply forgot that this was a game. Proves that I don't have much of a life here eh? :wink:

-=Corinthe=-

Don’t be down on yourself. You should take those tears and dry them with all the Yah Yah rooting for you you have seen on this thread. I don’t see how you could want any more encouragement.

That said, it is a game, and you should learn to look at it a bit differently in the future. S’maybe take a week off. I see you are still in the forums. Just take some time and cool, then come back.
28-10-2003, 17:24
Wow, this goes a long way to perpetuating the "Why don't people like KGB Informant just get on with their lives?" argument. Thanks, Corinthe. You rawk. ;)

Thanks :lol:

Btw. You are off topic, or I am missing something here in the thread :?

Remember that this little griefer is not entirely gone yet, because Corinthe is on vacation mode :P

-=Corinthe=-
28-10-2003, 17:27
Ja ik zal dat probereren.

Veel geluk, jammer dat dit allemaal precies voor de herfstvakantie moest gebeuren, anders had ik ook ff wat meer on-line kunnen zijn. :wink:
28-10-2003, 17:33
Don’t be down on yourself. You should take those tears and dry them with all the Yah Yah rooting for you you have seen on this thread. I don’t see how you could want any more encouragement.

That said, it is a game, and you should learn to look at it a bit differently in the future. S’maybe take a week off. I see you are still in the forums. Just take some time and cool, then come back.

It's not in my hands, but my experience, with my parents is, that if I behave, they eventually will slack down on my punishment.
One of my puppets has just misteriously moved back to one of my regios (Thanx sis :wink: ).

I should do what TG sugested. Do well on school and take a rest from NS.

-=Corinthe=-
Unfree People
28-10-2003, 18:22
I want to express my support for you too, Corinthe. I understand crying over a computer game - I've done it, and I'm only a couple years older than you. Getting rest sounds like a great idea, but please, come back to us.

Plus, if you're at all like me, you'll find yourself mysteriously thinking about NS in the middle of class, or eating, or talking to people... it's addictive and I believe you may find that you miss us too. ~.-
28-10-2003, 18:26
I want to express my support for you too, Corinthe. I understand crying over a computer game - I've done it, and I'm only a couple years older than you. Getting rest sounds like a great idea, but please, come back to us.

Plus, if you're at all like me, you'll find yourself mysteriously thinking about NS in the middle of class, or eating, or talking to people... it's addictive and I believe you may find that you miss us too. ~.-

I already miss you all :cry: But it's not in my hand, btw, you're admitted to the FP army. I opened the forum, since I can't join it anymore. Spread the word :!:

-=Corinthe=-
Trixia
28-10-2003, 18:41
Bye Corinthe, sorry to here yor leaving :(

I'll miss seeing the multi coloured signature you have :wink:

Bye.


Trix
Making NS a better place for all... hopefully. And saying bye to a very good nation in this post
28-10-2003, 18:44
Bye Corinthe, sorry to here yor leaving :(

I'll miss seeing the multi coloured signature you have :wink:

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28-10-2003, 18:51
Hey Corinthe, zou je misschien als afschied op een nieuwe show op NetworkRadio willen zijn, ik ben de host en Ballotonia en nog iemand zal ook komen, ik probeerde Franco in de show te krijgen maar hij is NetworkRadio aan het boycotten.
28-10-2003, 18:53
Bye Corinthe!
28-10-2003, 19:34
Hey Corinthe, zou je misschien als afschied op een nieuwe show op NetworkRadio willen zijn, ik ben de host en Ballotonia en nog iemand zal ook komen, ik probeerde Franco in de show te krijgen maar hij is NetworkRadio aan het boycotten.

Begin maar een topic, maar ik kan niet inloggen hoor! Elke keer zal je het IP moeten checken of ik het wel echt ben.

Btw. Francos wist niet dat jullie nederlanders waren, net als ik, dus nu voelt hij zich genaait :P

Bye Blue Bastard :)

-=Corinthe=-
Draztonia
28-10-2003, 19:42
Corinthe, veel geluk met je leven buiten NS, en ik verwacht je terug voor kerstmis ;)
Catholic Europe
28-10-2003, 19:46
Cor, what happened in the Pacific, was it really bad or something?
28-10-2003, 19:46
Corinthe, veel geluk met je leven buiten NS, en ik verwacht je terug voor kerstmis ;)

Paps en mams krijgen een bioscoopkaartje, en wat zakgeld om te stappen :wink:

-=Corinthe=-
28-10-2003, 19:54
Cor, what happened in the Pacific, was it really bad or something?

I invaded The Pacific, and the mods stumbled over each other to stop me, and than [violet] stumbled over the mods to stop them, and I lost because it wasn't fair anyway. You gotta read the thread,

-=Corinthe=-
Catholic Europe
28-10-2003, 19:55
Cor, what happened in the Pacific, was it really bad or something?

I invaded The Pacific, and the mods stumbled over each other to stop me, and than [violet] stumbled over the mods to stop them, and I lost because it wasn't fair anyway. You gotta read the thread,

-=Corinthe=-

Ah...you invaded the pacific?! You don't strike me as someone to do something like that... :?
imported_Zandra
28-10-2003, 20:12
kom je terug met kerst?
zou wel een mooi kerst kadootje zijn, maar tot die tijd zullen we je wel missen..
en wat was er eigenlijk met die ezel?
Freemon
28-10-2003, 20:13
Cor, what happened in the Pacific, was it really bad or something?

I invaded The Pacific, and the mods stumbled over each other to stop me, and than [violet] stumbled over the mods to stop them, and I lost because it wasn't fair anyway. You gotta read the thread,

-=Corinthe=-

Ah...you invaded the pacific?! You don't strike me as someone to do something like that... :?

Bad times bring out the best in some
Catholic Europe
28-10-2003, 20:16
Cor, what happened in the Pacific, was it really bad or something?

I invaded The Pacific, and the mods stumbled over each other to stop me, and than [violet] stumbled over the mods to stop them, and I lost because it wasn't fair anyway. You gotta read the thread,

-=Corinthe=-

Ah...you invaded the pacific?! You don't strike me as someone to do something like that... :?

Bad times bring out the best in some

I suppose so...I just would never have guessed Corinthe to do something like that!
28-10-2003, 20:36
kom je terug met kerst?
zou wel een mooi kerst kadootje zijn, maar tot die tijd zullen we je wel missen..
en wat was er eigenlijk met die ezel?

Dat is een geheim tussen mij en Neut. Weet je dat Neut me geëndorsed heeft, samen met nog twee mods, toen [violet] toestemming had gegeven? Neut hield z'n mond dicht, dus doe ik het ook :P

-=Corinthe=-
Phoebos
28-10-2003, 20:37
She came damned close to taking the delegacy as well... had 157 endorsements at one point, and was only a couple off at the end of things
imported_Zandra
28-10-2003, 20:41
kom je terug met kerst?
zou wel een mooi kerst kadootje zijn, maar tot die tijd zullen we je wel missen..
en wat was er eigenlijk met die ezel?

Dat is een geheim tussen mij en Neut. Weet je dat Neut me geëndorsed heeft, samen met nog twee mods, toen [violet] toestemming had gegeven? Neut hield z'n mond dicht, dus doe ik het ook :P

-=Corinthe=-

flauwerd :P ;)
28-10-2003, 20:41
She came damned close to taking the delegacy as well... had 157 endorsements at one point, and was only a couple off at the end of things

If [violet] came 30 minutes sooner, I would have been delegate, but still be banned from the game by my parents :(

-=Corinthe=-
NuMetal
28-10-2003, 20:49
She came damned close to taking the delegacy as well... had 157 endorsements at one point, and was only a couple off at the end of things

If [violet] came 30 minutes sooner, I would have been delegate, but still be banned from the game by my parents :(

-=Corinthe=-


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
bye
Tactical Grace
28-10-2003, 23:13
Ah...you invaded the pacific?! You don't strike me as someone to do something like that... :?
I am sure the same could be said of many. :wink:
NuMetal
28-10-2003, 23:28
Ah...you invaded the pacific?! You don't strike me as someone to do something like that... :?
I am sure the same could be said of many. :wink:


Um...It wasn't invading...just temporarily taking up residency and participating in an election :wink:


I cant believe Corinthe is leaving....I guess if about half of the worlds nations suddenly cease to exsist we will know shes gone....maybe she won't leave though :(
Tactical Grace
28-10-2003, 23:38
Um...It wasn't invading...just temporarily taking up residency and participating in an election :wink:
Of course. Many people were doing the same that day. :wink:
Crazy girl
29-10-2003, 00:14
yep, we should do that again some day....soon. ;)

cor, ik heb je berichtje gelezen op mijn forum, en het antwoord is.....
natuurlijk mag dat! ;)
al jouw poppetjes zijn welkom ;)
29-10-2003, 00:19
yep, we should do that again some day....soon. ;)

Just make sure I can read it all on your board and on Radio's board 8)

cor, ik heb je berichtje gelezen op mijn forum, en het antwoord is.....
natuurlijk mag dat! ;)
al jouw poppetjes zijn welkom ;)

M'n zus ligt in bed een boek te lezen, en het is zo lekker warm zegt ze, dus nu gaat het niet meer. Morgen dan maar :lol:

-=Corinthe=-
Crazy girl
29-10-2003, 00:23
i'll make sure it happens ;)

oke, zie ik je morgen wel verschijnen ;)
29-10-2003, 00:24
Another one bites the dust...

Hmm, were losing on average 2 people per week, though most of them come back within several days (*hopes this is another one of those cases*).
Tactical Grace
29-10-2003, 00:27
I think Corinthe should consider returning, once she has got a grip on her time management with her studies. I hope she does. It might not be realistic for her to go through the effort of invading the Pacific again, but maybe she would enjoy running a couple of personal regions, who knows?
29-10-2003, 00:33
I think Corinthe should consider returning, once she has got a grip on her time management with her studies. I hope she does. It might not be realistic for her to go through the effort of invading the Pacific again, but maybe she would enjoy running a couple of personal regions, who knows?

My sister occasionally returns some founders back to their homes. I can follow NS without joining. For instance one of my delegates was thinking of asking for a new founder to the mods. I decided to spare him the embarrasment of being ignored here. We all know that is not going to happen. It wasn't any simpathic either, so I had my sister send the founder back home. Another region got an strange Delegate, and I don't trust that, so again the founder came back, just to guard the regional control. So in an indirect way, I'm still playing :P

-=Corinthe=-
Tactical Grace
29-10-2003, 00:36
So in an indirect way, I'm still playing :P
Cool. How did all your nations end up in the Rejected Realms anyway? Did you move them all there to die?
29-10-2003, 00:38
So in an indirect way, I'm still playing :P
Cool. How did all your nations end up in the Rejected Realms anyway? Did you move them all there to die?

A silly emotional reaction. There was actually no need to do that. I guess, you better ask a psychologist :P

-=Corinthe=-
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 00:51
You could put your nations on vacation mode. And my father is going to teach me Java so that I can write a script to log into all of my nations (and some others), and I could give it to you if and when I write it to make things even easier.
Phoebos
29-10-2003, 00:58
You could put your nations on vacation mode. And my father is going to teach me Java so that I can write a script to log into all of my nations (and some others), and I could give it to you if and when I write it to make things even easier.

Hmm... hadn't thought of that.

I could add that functionality to my portal with about 5 lines of code, if people think there could be a demand for it
NuMetal
29-10-2003, 01:01
Phoebos, I think there would


I just hope my mom doesn't ban me from computers when I get my report card :S
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 01:03
I was thinking that I would just have a simple script where you inputed nation names sepereted by commas, spaces, linebreaks, semicolons, etc, that I would run once every three weeks or so.

No offense, but it is kind of a pain adding nations to your portal one nation at a tim, so I only have Qaaolchoura in there.
Goobergunchia
29-10-2003, 01:04
Phoebos, I think there would


I just hope my mom doesn't ban me from computers when I get my report card :S

Seconded...my puppets are overdue for a review.

*realizes that he has a very hard physics test tomorrow*

I was thinking that I would just have a simple script where you inputed nation names sepereted by commas, spaces, linebreaks, semicolons, etc, that I would run once every three weeks or so.

I can be reached via my t-gram box.

Unless of course I come up with something first....:twisted:
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 01:06
Phoebos, I think there would


I just hope my mom doesn't ban me from computers when I get my report card :S
I hope not too.

In my case it is all As and a satisfactory for study (although I suspect that on my final report English will slip to a B+), so I'm set.
Goobergunchia
29-10-2003, 01:11
Phoebos, I think there would


I just hope my mom doesn't ban me from computers when I get my report card :S
I hope not too.

In my case it is all As and a satisfactory for study (although I suspect that on my final report English will slip to a B+), so I'm set.

Similar situation here, except for my giant Physics test tomorrow (20% of grade).

I'll post my report card in General Friday a week after Halloween.

Now let's get back on topic....
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 01:11
I was thinking that I would just have a simple script where you inputed nation names sepereted by commas, spaces, linebreaks, semicolons, etc, that I would run once every three weeks or so.

I can be reached via my t-gram box.

Unless of course I come up with something first....:twisted:
Go ahead. My father takes forever to get around to things (well constant nagging lowers it to about two weeks), so At best I will not be able to do anything before Thanksgiving, at worst, it would be around this time next year.
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 01:11
I was thinking that I would just have a simple script where you inputed nation names sepereted by commas, spaces, linebreaks, semicolons, etc, that I would run once every three weeks or so.

I can be reached via my t-gram box.

Unless of course I come up with something first....:twisted:
Go ahead. My father takes forever to get around to things (well constant nagging lowers it to about two weeks), so At best I will not be able to do anything before Thanksgiving, at worst, it would be around this time next year.
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 01:12
I was thinking that I would just have a simple script where you inputed nation names sepereted by commas, spaces, linebreaks, semicolons, etc, that I would run once every three weeks or so.

I can be reached via my t-gram box.

Unless of course I come up with something first....:twisted:
Go ahead. My father takes forever to get around to things (well constant nagging lowers it to about two weeks), so At best I will not be able to do anything before Thanksgiving, at worst, it would be around this time next year.
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 01:12
I was thinking that I would just have a simple script where you inputed nation names sepereted by commas, spaces, linebreaks, semicolons, etc, that I would run once every three weeks or so.

I can be reached via my t-gram box.

Unless of course I come up with something first....:twisted:
Go ahead. My father takes forever to get around to things (well constant nagging lowers it to about two weeks), so At best I will not be able to do anything before Thanksgiving, at worst, it would be around this time next year.
Goobergunchia
29-10-2003, 01:14
Go ahead. My father takes forever to get around to things (well constant nagging lowers it to about two weeks), so At best I will not be able to do anything before Thanksgiving, at worst, it would be around this time next year.

*begins to scheme about hijacking AP CompSci class again*
Phoebos
29-10-2003, 01:22
Well, the functionality has now been added to the portal to run an autologin cycle. I may tune it at a later date to optimize time (at the moment, it sends a login command every 2.5 seconds, which on my machine is slow enough to complete the login). Alternatively, I may make the delay an option that can be set up. In any case, it works.

Details, of course, can be found here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81908)

With regard to the adding nations one at a time, Qaaol, I'm always happy for suggestions on how it can be made better, so if you have any, tell me of them and I'll see what I can do
Qaaolchoura
29-10-2003, 01:32
My idea was that there would be a very simpl open-source script which would allow one to enter all nation names into the source code and then run it.
NuMetal
29-10-2003, 01:36
Once I get the source code extracted I can offer suggestions, other than that the only thing is I get a few runtime errors, usually subscript out of range 9(sometimes 5)

and if my mom bans me from the computer all that means is I need to finde a way around the blocking software at school :twisted:
Phoebos
29-10-2003, 01:36
Well, this thing is open source, in theory. Earlier versions all had source code posted, but with the number of revisions I'm putting out, it's too much effort to keep archiving the files and releasing them each time.

I'll release the source for either this version or the next major version sometime during the week.

The only complication I can see with a simple script is running the http requests and handling the POST data. I'm cheating somewhat by using a browser object, but otherwise you have to go messing about with winsock and all that, which is a right pain.
Goobergunchia
29-10-2003, 01:46
Once I get the source code extracted I can offer suggestions, other than that the only thing is I get a few runtime errors, usually subscript out of range 9(sometimes 5)

and if my mom bans me from the computer all that means is I need to finde a way around the blocking software at school :twisted:

Your school blocks NationStates? :P
Phoebos
29-10-2003, 01:53
Once I get the source code extracted I can offer suggestions, other than that the only thing is I get a few runtime errors, usually subscript out of range 9(sometimes 5)

and if my mom bans me from the computer all that means is I need to finde a way around the blocking software at school :twisted:

If you downloaded the source before about a few minutes ago, you've probably got an old version. I would suggest downloading it again (I've just put up the latest version)
29-10-2003, 01:57
Getting around the block at school is easy.
Except i forgot how. :?
29-10-2003, 01:58
Once I get the source code extracted I can offer suggestions, other than that the only thing is I get a few runtime errors, usually subscript out of range 9(sometimes 5)

and if my mom bans me from the computer all that means is I need to finde a way around the blocking software at school :twisted:

If you downloaded the source before about a few minutes ago, you've probably got an old version. I would suggest downloading it again (I've just put up the latest version)

Ok, I'll redownload it(I downloaded it about an hour ago I think) and I need to download something to extract it.


and yes, my school blocks NS,it's very strange because at the beginning of the year, it was blocked, then one time I logged on fine, now it's blocked again :x :?
Phoebos
29-10-2003, 01:59
Easiest way to get around blocks is to translate the page from Chinese to English through something such as BabelFish
Goobergunchia
29-10-2003, 02:02
Easiest way to get around blocks is to translate the page from Chinese to English through something such as BabelFish

It doesn't seem to let you log in....
NuMetal
29-10-2003, 02:05
Intresting
Phoebos
29-10-2003, 02:10
Hmm... that's because it doesn't support POST data. I'm trying to find a way around this now
NuMetal
29-10-2003, 02:54
my VB software is screwed, I'm probably going to need to get the disc from my uncle again...actually I think I have a CD for the working model version that came with one of my books,I can probably work on it through that and just not compile the exe files
29-10-2003, 09:20
I know that mods shouldn't intervene, but if Francos was stripped from delegacy from one update to another, as soon as things have quieted down here at home. I have an an e-mail from Neut promissing that the situation would be created again. That's the only reason why I left the Pacific. If my parents allow me to play again (There is nothing wrong with my grades (only my English sux)). That would give me 24 hours to give it another go, with Francos 150 endorsements ahead of me. Wouldn't that be fair? A recreation of the glitch, but actually without the glitch. Just a temporary halt on banning powers. Francos will see me coming, and with his 150 endorcements, he would still have a fair advantage. He could rally many friends, and have many days in advantage to put up a great propaganda campagn, which I don't have, because i'm not in the game until that day.

Our faith in the moderators will be restored, and many of us will return playing this game with fun again, weather I win or lose. That situation is actually very easy to create. Just forget about the glitch. Nobody can recreate a glitch. Not even a 1337 H@xX0r!

-=Corinthe=-

If any of the mods have a constructive reason why this isn't possible, please e-mail me. Kitty_Persoonlijk@hotmail.com.

Edited 3 times already. DUH!
Nothingg
29-10-2003, 15:04
It may be possible, but it makes no sense. If Francos has to unlock his doors for the night, then every delegate in the world would have to do the same thing. I'm pretty sure the mods or admin isn't gonna risk pissing off 1,300 odd delegates to give some invaders a 3rd chance to take over a region they've been constantly griefing for several months now.

What's the chance Ineptia's gonna open The Heartland up to invaders again?
Puppet nr 784523
29-10-2003, 15:19
No, it just makes no sence at all. You allow the delegates of all Feeder regions to keep banning powers, or you don't. I don't like Franco at all, but the mods creating intentionally such temporary glitch would be an even more idiotic thing to do.
29-10-2003, 15:35
It has been promissed. Otherwise I would never have broken off my attack, and rather have been deated on the spot.

-=Corinthe=-
29-10-2003, 15:38
We shall prevail!!!!! :twisted:
29-10-2003, 15:38
We shall prevail!!!!! :twisted:
-Drakma-
29-10-2003, 16:06
It has been promissed. Otherwise I would never have broken off my attack, and rather have been deated on the spot.

-=Corinthe=-

And [violet] has said that promise will not be honored - in any form.

As anrgy as I am at the situation... it's done. The mods aren't going to do anything to make game work wonky just for us - it would not be fair to Francos. They have said so many times. If we're going to get Francos, we have to do it the old fasion way.

Promises don't always get kept.

-Drakma-
29-10-2003, 17:17
It has been promissed. Otherwise I would never have broken off my attack, and rather have been deated on the spot.

-=Corinthe=-

It was also promised to Francos that he was safe for the night. Someone is going to be disappointed, what makes you think you should be the lucky one? You're just a lowly invader, way down the food chain in the eyes of the powers that be in NS.
29-10-2003, 17:29
It has been promissed. Otherwise I would never have broken off my attack, and rather have been deated on the spot.

-=Corinthe=-

It was also promised to Francos that he was safe for the night. Someone is going to be disappointed, what makes you think you should be the lucky one? You're just a lowly invader, way down the food chain in the eyes of the powers that be in NS.

Nah, you're looking it the wrong way. I was an evil predator abusing a glitch, while he was a sick puppy who's parents went shopping, and because of a power failure his door was unlocked.

I posted in a thread he started, where he was whining about the lose of power. And for some strange misterious reason, the complete thread has vanished :twisted:

-=Corinthe=-
Neutered Sputniks
29-10-2003, 17:32
Corinthe, [violet] determined that my promise would be disallowed as overly unfair. It's all in the "Decision on the Pacific" thread, somewhere around pages 32-35/36.
29-10-2003, 17:34
Corinthe, [violet] determined that my promise would be disallowed as overly unfair. It's all in the "Decision on the Pacific" thread, somewhere around pages 32-35/36.

Understood.

Now it's time to give this thread a rest, and put a lid on it.

Btw. I was talking about the thread Francos started, which I (if I was in his shoes) would have kept very quiet :P

-=Corinthe=-
29-10-2003, 17:36
Don't get me wrong, I think the whole situation was handled poorly. Both sides were promised something, but in the end neither promise was totally fulfilled. You just have to realize, as the invading nation, you are going to have to overcome every obsticle. The way the rules are currently written, the defender has all the power (believe me I've argued against that many times). While it is possible to overthrow Francos, I believe it's gonna take more of a cunning approach than a blunt force attack.
29-10-2003, 18:05
Don't get me wrong, I think the whole situation was handled poorly. Both sides were promised something, but in the end neither promise was totally fulfilled. You just have to realize, as the invading nation, you are going to have to overcome every obsticle. The way the rules are currently written, the defender has all the power (believe me I've argued against that many times). While it is possible to overthrow Francos, I believe it's gonna take more of a cunning approach than a blunt force attack.

While I know that such plan exist, we all know that most of the players are tired of the politics in this game. We have the power, but not the will to do so. We only fantasize of the awesome power of 70.000 nations. We have been demoralized to many times now.
I don't believe a word of players who are organizing to tople Francos, until I see a hyperactive region filled with 300 (non multy) UN nations.
Actually, I don't believe any of of you is able to pull it off ever.

We are SO off topic now, it embarrasses me. :oops:

-=Corinthe=-
29-10-2003, 18:26
We are not demoralized...In fact this last fiasco has reinvigorated many to continue until we achieve victory. Noone Should give up. If you do you will miss out on being a part of the most monumentous event in NS history. The Liberation of the Pacific will continue and succeed.

As an aside: If you are waiting to see 300 nations in a region labled "free the Pacific", forget it. That has to be the most obvious, easily detectable way of insuring failure.

But there are other ways....
29-10-2003, 18:47
As an aside: If you are waiting to see 300 nations in a region labled "free the Pacific", forget it. That has to be the most obvious, easily detectable way of insuring failure.

That is below the belt :lol: You know darn well, that there was never more than one nation in that region :P

-=Corinthe=-
29-10-2003, 20:50
This was figurative really. It was not intended to reflect an actual region. I have no knowledge of a region by that exact name. I was simply pointing out that to telegraph an attack is a bad idea. :oops:

And there are not really 70,000 players in this game. There are a certain amount of UN Nations so we can expect there to be slightly less than that number of legitimate players.
29-10-2003, 22:59
This was figurative really. It was not intended to reflect an actual region. I have no knowledge of a region by that exact name. I was simply pointing out that to telegraph an attack is a bad idea. :oops:

Just kiddin' :P The region Is called Pacific Freedom Force. It's suposed to become something like Pacific army, but I never bothered to advertize it, because of the same reason, you stated :wink:

And there are not really 70,000 players in this game. There are a certain amount of UN Nations so we can expect there to be slightly less than that number of legitimate players.

26.586 UN members and 1976 Regional delegates. About 0.3 % of these are willing to give up their security, and fight for the cause. Find them, and you have an army. If only one of the other Pacifics acnowledged the danger of Francos's succes, this fight would have been over long time ago. Can you Imagine if all Pacifics would band together, and freed Francos's Pacific, you guys would teach all, would be, Pacific dictators a lesson non of us will ever forget.

Oh well, you can't take away a girl's dream, can you?

-=Corinthe=-
29-10-2003, 23:40
If you want to take over the Pacific, just leave the UN with your original nation, create a puppet and join the UN with the puppet. That way, you won't be banned from the Pacific.
30-10-2003, 00:18
There's more to the problem than that. As soon as Francos knows that the puppet is controlled by someone trying to get rid of him, it'll be on his list of nations to boot just before the update. And it's not difficult to figure that out if any of the normal attack methods are used.

I have thought of a plan which should reduce this problem considerably, and might have a chance even if Francos knows what it is. The problem with this is that I don't know who to talk to to organise such an attack, and if everyone knows this plan then it makes invasions against large regions more difficult to prevent...
30-10-2003, 00:35
I made a deal with Kandarin, that every nation from The Pacific has a warm blanket and a soft spot to land, when ejected from any place in NationStates, and especially The Pacific. What's the big deal? Invaders deserve to be ejected. That's not the issue!
There is a small region called Pacific Freedom Force. That's all I tell. You find a spot there to talk tactics.

Right now I issue a MODALERT!!! Either the mods give aproval of discussing tactics here, ot they lock it. I'm done with my goodbye speech many posts ago.

-=Corinthe=-
30-10-2003, 01:29
Wait, are you leaving or not?
The SLAGLands
30-10-2003, 01:42
Right now I issue a MODALERT!!! Either the mods give aproval of discussing tactics here, ot they lock it.

Well, that's up to you... but I'd just start a new thread for discussing tactics. ;)
30-10-2003, 07:18
If only one of the other Pacifics acnowledged the danger of Francos's succes, this fight would have been over long time ago. Can you Imagine if all Pacifics would band together, and freed Francos's Pacific, you guys would teach all, would be, Pacific dictators a lesson non of us will ever forget.

Oh well, you can't take away a girl's dream, can you?

-=Corinthe=-

It has been my dream that all of the Pacifics take on the task as a general task and responsibility of saving a fellow Pacific Region. But I have moved on.
Dettibok
30-10-2003, 07:50
Corinthe, [violet] determined that my promise would be disallowed as overly unfair. It's all in the "Decision on the Pacific" thread, somewhere around pages 32-35/36.

This one (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1951199#1951199)?

]My actions did make Neut look bad. They reflect poorly on me. In my defense, I wasn't aware at the time that Neut had overruled the earlier decision of non-intervention; I actually thought I was supporting the mod decision. In retrospect, given the late hour that I became aware of the situation, I would probably have stayed out of it. I'm happy to overrule moderators where I think it's appropriate -- and nobody should be shocked by that -- but here I came in too late to have much of an effect, made flippant remarks, and caused a valued moderator to look bad. This in a situation that was a tough judgement call anyway.

It sounds as if [violet] didn't know of your ruling. But in this post (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1950967#1950967), it sounds af if [violet] was in contact with the mods:
]
We had a system glitch that dropped us into unexpected territory, and exposed the Pacific (among other regions) to invasion. For a while there we had contradictory opinions from the mods and I as to whether we should just go with the flow, or attempt to prevent anyone from taking advantage of these circumstances. There were good arguments for both sides, but in the end it was decided that glitches were part of life, and the mods shouldn't prevent an invasion. That's it.

When did [violet] learn about your ruling, and about your promise?
30-10-2003, 13:37
Wait, are you leaving or not?

I'm still allowed to spam the forum with useless advise, but I'm not playing anymore. Therefor I will not join any thread about tacticts and stuff.
I can still see my puppets off-site, and some are allready 3 days inactive.

-=Corinthe=-
TROUSRS
30-10-2003, 13:42
Wait, are you leaving or not?

I'm still allowed to spam the forum with useless advise, but I'm not playing anymore. Therefor I will not join any thread about tacticts and stuff.
I can still see my puppets off-site, and some are allready 3 days inactive.

-=Corinthe=-

I once let this game get to me..

I left for 2 months.. then I came back. Its hard to leave NationStates. Truth is, I never did. Durring those two months I used another nation, I know how you feel. You get so frusturated over a game and you deny your addiction.. acceptance. That is the next step. I accept that when I sit on the computer for 7 hours a day and 14 on weekends, that I have an illness, the NS addiction..
TROUSRS
30-10-2003, 13:47
And your advise is most definatley not useless. Sure, you're a little weird sometimes, we all are. Sometimes you have an off day.. or two.. or, you get the point. We all do. Once you start NationStates, its hard and sometimes impossible to let go. I can't tell you how many friends I've made on here, Klamath, Diminix, Intergallactic Hell, Sirocco, Bisons.. and when I say I'm quitting the game.. does that mean I'm quitting my friends?
Tactical Grace
30-10-2003, 18:47
Right now I issue a MODALERT!!! Either the mods give aproval of discussing tactics here, ot they lock it. I'm done with my goodbye speech many posts ago.
[Winces at the intensity of her shriek, which seemed to tear into the fabric of reality itself]

Hehe, only kidding. :wink:

If you want to discuss tactics, you could start a dedicated thread in the NationStates Forum. Of course, it would all be totally public, so you could use telegrams, an off-site forum or even an IRC channel for the really sensitive bits.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
30-10-2003, 19:38
If you want to discuss tactics, you could start a dedicated thread in the NationStates Forum. Of course, it would all be totally public, so you could use telegrams, an off-site forum or even an IRC channel for the really sensitive bits.

Lol, that was that modalert all about. This thread has outlived it's purpose.
Anyway, discussing tactics is not my way. The only thing I wanna discuss is when, and how many. Last time I tried to to raise a trained army, I ended up with 10 generals, and not one soldier :P I've hinted many times about my own board. I can't join Proboard, and they all swear by it.
It's time to move on. I'll be back before my puppets die, I hope.

-=Corinthe=-
Tactical Grace
30-10-2003, 19:41
It's time to move on. I'll be back before my puppets die, I hope.
[Wishes her well] :)
30-10-2003, 20:06
[Wishes her well] :)

I play Diablo II now, and I'm awful mean hardcore assasin :)
Can you lock this now please? :wink:

-=Corinthe=-
Tactical Grace
30-10-2003, 20:15
I play Diablo II now, and I'm awful mean hardcore assasin :)
Can you lock this now please? :wink:

-=Corinthe=-
:shock: Hehe, that one is surprisingly popular amongst the girls I know. And yes, sure thing, locking. Hope I see you around the Forums again. :)

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
The Most Glorious Hack
31-10-2003, 06:27
[Wishes her well] :)

I play Diablo II now, and I'm awful mean hardcore assasin :)
Can you lock this now please? :wink:

-=Corinthe=-

Hm. My assassin always got spanked fighting Diablo in Nightmare. The Amazon, on the other hand, is a fear-monger.

Oh, wait... hijacking and posting around a lock. Whoops... :wink: