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I was going to put this on the other thread, but it got locked just as I was posting

Corinthe, we know that you are just trying to be helpful, but the way that you have recently been answering questions seems to convey to other players that you are a mod.

Do you think people can't look over to the side and see that it doesn't say mod under her name?

Also:It has become overly frequent to see players attempting to resolve issues which only the Mods can resolve.

On the other hand, ]How Do I Become a Moderator?
If you regularly make helpful posts in the forums, especially the Technical Forum, the mods and I will notice you. Once you've established a reputation, you can let one or two moderators know that you are interested in modding. The next time we want to add more moderators, we will discuss various candidates and make a decision. If you are chosen, I will e-mail you an invitation.

You should not hassle the mods, or be too demanding: this will disqualify you. We want moderators who are interested in helping other players, and able to deal with the quite stressful job of handling large numbers of player complaints and problems without losing their cool. To become a moderator you must demonstrate that you fit that description.
Doesn't this suggest that players are supposed to help other players with problems too?

I'm not sure why it would matter if another player offers some general advice before a mod addresses the problem with specific information

I'm not sure why it would matter if another player offers some general advice before a mod addresses the problem with specific information
I agree, especially if its a more experienced player than the one asking the question.

Here here! Given that the moderators are notoriously hard to find, and that newbies are notoriously impatient I don't see anything wrong if Corinthe or anyone else attempts to anwser their questions. They may not have all the doctorines on hand, but if you're an experienced player you know the ground rules well enough to handle the little stuff. Heck, I'd expect the mods to be thanking Corinthe and the others for helping them alleviate their overbearing workload.

There are different kinds of problems. Not every issue needs a Mod. However, as I stated and you conveniently left out, no player can know the reasons for a nations deletion or UN ejection. Posting in a thread wherein a player is asking for assistance directly from a Moderator has become overly frequent, and is now somewhat akin to "spam" in attempts to become the next Moderator (not in every case, but in far too many).

And I gave a reason in the original post that was misquoted: Oft times those experienced players give mistaken information, or jump to the wrong conclusion and as a result confusion abounds. Thus, we ask that players not address issues that only a Mod can address.

The other forums have plenty of players asking for assistance that does not require a Moderator's input, and players are therein encouraged to assist (RP, Tech issues, UN, etc.).

There are different kinds of problems. Not every issue needs a Mod. However, as I stated and you conveniently left out, no player can know the reasons for a nations deletion or UN ejection. Posting in a thread wherein a player is asking for assistance directly from a Moderator has become overly frequent, and is now somewhat akin to "spam" in attempts to become the next Moderator (not in every case, but in far too many).

The other forums have plenty of players asking for assistance that does not require a Moderator's input, and players are therein encouraged to assist (RP, Tech issues, UN, etc.).


Even if a player simply states the basic rules which may tell the person asking why they were ejected or deleted?

I agree to some extent with both sides. On the one hand, the Game Mods are correct in stating that they have a privileged perspective on things, and people should not be too quick to say "oh, well that's what must have happened". Sometimes, I conceed that I am making an assumption and do not really know the specifics.

On the other hand, those comments did strike me as being a bit abrupt when I read them, and hope that Corinthe does not take offence. She is one of the truest players, and on the whole, I have found her to be very helpful. Personally, I would have handled the situation with a bit more tact. But then, we all have our styles. They should be recognised as such, and if something is out of place, a private and respectful word would suffice.

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Here here! Given that the moderators are notoriously hard to find, and that newbies are notoriously impatient I don't see anything wrong if Corinthe or anyone else attempts to anwser their questions. They may not have all the doctorines on hand, but if you're an experienced player you know the ground rules well enough to handle the little stuff. Heck, I'd expect the mods to be thanking Corinthe and the others for helping them alleviate their overbearing workload.
And Corinthe especially has a pretty exceptional record for helping people.

Well, as long as we're talking about Cornithe I nominate him/her to be a mod.

My entire comment was not directed at only Corinthe. In fact, most of my comment was not. But, I guess I should have made that extremely clear. Therefore, from now on, I will ensure that whomever I am specifically addressing knows through the use of bold and italic...or...I could simply continue to hope that the other members of this site would mature a little bit and cease fighting the Mods simply because it's something to do...

My entire comment was not directed at only Corinthe. In fact, most of my comment was not. But, I guess I should have made that extremely clear. Therefore, from now on, I will ensure that whomever I am specifically addressing knows through the use of bold and italic...or...I could simply continue to hope that the other members of this site would mature a little bit and cease fighting the Mods simply because it's something to do...

I'm sorry but that is not why I have posted here, I usually agree with the mods in fact, but this doesn't mean I can't state my opinion on something.

So then why, once the question has been answered, is it rephrased time and again in attempts to catch the Mods up? Or is it that people just simply refuse to accept an answer they dont like?

There are different kinds of problems. Not every issue needs a Mod. However, as I stated and you conveniently left out, See Neut, this is what I meant on my "do the mods like the players thread". You imply some kind of malicious, deceptive intent on my part. I cut your quote because I didn't feel it was necessary. If you think it was, and want to edit my original post to put your comments in their entirity, feel free to do so.

no player can know the reasons for a nations deletion or UN ejection. Posting in a thread wherein a player is asking for assistance directly from a Moderator has become overly frequent, and is now somewhat akin to "spam" in attempts to become the next Moderator (not in every case, but in far too many).As to the first bit, don't you think it would therefore be a good idea to put the reasons for ejections or deletions somewhere? As to the second bit, I don't quite understand what you mean, are you suggesting helpful posts are spam?

And I gave a reason in the original post that was misquoted: Oft times those experienced players give mistaken information, or jump to the wrong conclusion and as a result confusion abounds. Thus, we ask that players not address issues that only a Mod can address. Does Corithe suggesting the most likely reasons for a UN ejection overstep her limits? And generally the confusion you mention can be fairly simply sorted out by someone with the title "moderator" posting a correction.

Ya know what Spoffin, by God, you're right. You should be a Moderator, you're so intelligent. Want my position? I'm getting quite fed up with people pushing questions that have already been answered by rephrasing the question.

My entire comment was not directed at only Corinthe. In fact, most of my comment was not. But, I guess I should have made that extremely clear. Therefore, from now on, I will ensure that whomever I am specifically addressing knows through the use of bold and italic...or...I could simply continue to hope that the other members of this site would mature a little bit and cease fighting the Mods simply because it's something to do...

Well, I'm not usually one to comment here in Moderation, but I do get rather incensed when one of the must helpful and very kind players here is told essentially to shuttup, now if the situation was handled differently or with a little more politeness as TG said then we might not feel the need to come to the defense of that person. And of course since the particular situation was rather common knowledge for those who frequent the faq and moderation.

Karma did ask tactfully. Corinthe then slammed the Mods for not responding fast enough, to which I replied that this is merely a game. Now, if there was a more tactful manner, then Corinthe missed out when she slammed the Mods.

My entire comment was not directed at only Corinthe. In fact, most of my comment was not. But, I guess I should have made that extremely clear. Therefore, from now on, I will ensure that whomever I am specifically addressing knows through the use of bold and italic...or...I could simply continue to hope that the other members of this site would mature a little bit and cease fighting the Mods simply because it's something to do...
I almost feel like modalerting this for flamebait. You're doing nothing short of telling me to grow up. I refer you again to this thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85184&start=20)

Also, gee, god forbid that in a topic in which I explicitly cited Corithe as an example I should suppose that you're referring to her.

Ya know what Spoffin, by God, you're right. You should be a Moderator, you're so intelligent. Want my position? I'm getting quite fed up with people pushing questions that have already been answered by rephrasing the question.


Calm down, whats wrong with discussing something?

And yet the post you quoted was not directed 100% at Corinthe, thus, although the thread was intended to be directed at her, it was actually directed at the general public - which I was attempting to point out.

Modalert it for flaming, but perhaps you do need to grow up instead of continuing to push just because it's something to push...

Discussing something is one thing. Constantly repeating the same question with different wording is another.

Karma did ask tactfully. Corinthe then slammed the Mods for not responding fast enough, to which I replied that this is merely a game. Now, if there was a more tactful manner, then Corinthe missed out when she slammed the Mods.

Yeah, she was so abusive to you, saying this

Would be better if mods were a bit faster in answering on certain hours of the day though, but than again, even that is not my business.

She actually said that it wasn't her buisness. Thats not slamming the moderators, thats just explaining her reasons for trying to help.

Horse manure, and we all know it. That's like my post that you called me out for "flamebaiting" because I told you to "grow up."

Actually, it seems as though she was being sarcastic and implying the mods weren't doing their job properly.

Calm down guys, remember the love . . . 8)

Ya know what Spoffin, by God, you're right. You should be a Moderator, you're so intelligent. Want my position? I'm getting quite fed up with people pushing questions that have already been answered by rephrasing the question.
See, now you're just trying to get me riled up. I never once suggested that I was more intelligent than you. And moreover I have no wish whatsoever to take your position. Moderators are hated by a large and growing number of players, and with the way you've treated me on this thread, with good reason.

Ya know what Spoffin, by God, you're right. You should be a Moderator, you're so intelligent. Want my position? I'm getting quite fed up with people pushing questions that have already been answered by rephrasing the question.
See, now you're just trying to get me riled up. I never once suggested that I was more intelligent than you. And moreover I have no wish whatsoever to take your position. Moderators are hated by a large and growing number of players, and with the way you've treated me on this thread, with good reason.

When the mods have to put quite a lot of time into keeping this game civil, and then they get grief for doing their jobs, is it really any wonder they get a bit tired of being constantly criticised?

Ya know what Spoffin, by God, you're right. You should be a Moderator, you're so intelligent. Want my position? I'm getting quite fed up with people pushing questions that have already been answered by rephrasing the question.
See, now you're just trying to get me riled up. I never once suggested that I was more intelligent than you. And moreover I have no wish whatsoever to take your position. Moderators are hated by a large and growing number of players, and with the way you've treated me on this thread, with good reason.

When the mods have to put quite a lot of time into keeping this game civil, and then they get grief for doing their jobs, is it really any wonder they get a bit tired of being constantly criticised?

This was not a mod griefing thread,it was just stating that a player disagreed with a moderator

Calm down guys, remember the love . . . 8)
I'm trying very hard to keep love in my mind TG.

Calm down guys, remember the love . . . 8)

That's why I'm staying out of this one.

And given Spoffin's history of constantly questioning/criticizing the Mods, complete with rephrasing of answered questions (as was done here), it kind of creates a pattern ya see. So once Spoffin began rephrasing the answered questions, I recognized the pattern, and attempted to call her on it.

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This was not a mod griefing thread,it was just stating that a player disagreed with a moderator

But a familiar pattern is emerging. This thread will decend into flames, and eventually get locked, and then in a future argument of this type the thread will be dug up as evidence of 'power abuse.'

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This was not a mod griefing thread,it was just stating that a player disagreed with a moderator

But a familiar pattern is emerging. This thread will decend into flames, and eventually get locked, and then in a future argument of this type the thread will be dug up as evidence of 'power abuse.'

But if that pattern continues no complaints will ever be taken seriously

And given Spoffin's history of constantly questioning/criticizing the Mods, complete with rephrasing of answered questions (as was done here), it kind of creates a pattern ya see. So once Spoffin began rephrasing the answered questions, I recognized the pattern, and attempted to call her on it.
That would be him for your information. And constantly is a massive exagguration. Also, if you'd care to show, for example, quotes that appear to show me just rephrasing my question instead of accepting you answer to it, that'd be just dandy.

The way I see it is this: Corinthe sometimes answers queries as if she was a mod, but she isn't. Yes, /she's just trying to be helpful/, but in certain situations (i.e.; why was my nation blahblah booted from the UN), the moderaters would have a direct answer, whereas Corinthe may not.

So as much as I think that maybe they were a little harsh, I can't /completly/ disagree with them; when I read those quotes the temperment surprised me, but one must remember that emotions are not easily conveyed through text.

So I think this: When you answer a query that the mods probably have better information or information that might contradict your own, just inform the player that you are not a mod. It worked for Cogitation, for example. ;)

(.02)

--Felix

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This was not a mod griefing thread,it was just stating that a player disagreed with a moderator

But a familiar pattern is emerging. This thread will decend into flames, and eventually get locked, and then in a future argument of this type the thread will be dug up as evidence of 'power abuse.'
If this does descend into flames, I'll keep the traditional playground style defence of "I didn't start it!"

The way I see it is this: Corinthe sometimes answers queries as if she was a mod, she isn't. Yes, /she's just trying to be helpful/, but in certain situations (i.e.; why was my nation blahblah booted from the UN), the moderaters would have a direct answer, whereas Corinthe may not.

So as much as I think that maybe they were a little harsh, I can't /completly/ disagree with them; when I read that the temperment surprised me, but one must remember that emotions are not easily conveyed through text.

So I think this: When you answer a query that the mods probably have better information or information that might contradict your own, just inform the player that you are not a mod. It worked for Cogitation, for example. ;)

(.02)

--Felix

Yes,thank you for a reasonable response, I am mainly concerned that is sounded as though one could not respond to a Why was I deleted post by telling someone some possiblilities,if it is simply that one should make clear that one is not a moderator than I understand

Ya know, had you read the actual original thread, you'd have caught those answers NuMetal...

Ya know, had you read the actual original thread, you'd have caught those answers NuMetal...

>> http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85338

I hope that this thread doesn't get locked, because I hate to start a new thread about this issue.
I was sarcastic about mods not doing their jobs properly, like Neut is sarcastic to me many times, that I'm repeating the same issue over and over again. My sister posted in the moderator's forum a week agao, and the matter has still not been answered by the mods, and when they would answer it it, it will probably wit a sarcastic remark like; "Another player got deleted and than comes to the mod complaining that it was unjustfull, while the players knows darn well that he/she was flaming ect."

Please don't lock up this thread yet, for flaming and stuff (Actually, you should all calm dow a bit!). I am busy digging up threads up unto 1 week ago, where players asked questions, and never got an answer until today.
All calm down now, okay?!
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^seconded.

Ya know, had you read the actual original thread, you'd have caught those answers NuMetal...


I did read the original thread as it happened, I apparantly misunderstood though as,I believe, did some others. In any case, I'm sorry if you thought I was arguing just because I enjoy annoying the mods, but all I can do is assure you that this was not my intention, I just needed clarification on a point.

NuMetal, I apologize for your being caught in that generalization. My points were directed more towards Spoffin than towards yourself.

NuMetal, I apologize for your being caught in that generalization. My points were directed more towards Spoffin than towards yourself.
Sorry, which comments?

People, please. My comments were only in reference to actions which a mods access to information is key, such as UN issues, or deletion issues. What we are trying to avoid is a bunch of people asking someone if they had done this or that to get deleted, when we can just go and find out directly why. We can get to more issues if we do not have to sift through 4 pages of posts to find the problem. We also try to avoid the "well, so and so said this and that" syndrome, where players get the idea that something is a "rule" when it really is not. We do not mind players helping people with everyday issues, but please, if you do not have access to the information, let those who do handle it.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84669
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84783
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84093
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84148
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84107
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84048
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83800
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83619
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83687
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83574
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83569
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83427
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83423

These are threads (only from the moderator's forum) in which mods never responded once, from until only 1 week ago. Am I implying now that mods don't do their work properly? No not really, I just want to show that the mods do need help of players, who really like to help out as much as they can.

And now about the thread in which I was answering to a player who got rejected from the UN for violations.
I have seen many questions like that one, and until now, none of these claims have openly been reversed because the rejection was a mistake. I have great confidence in the mods about this matter. UN violations are checked carefully, as far as I know.
Thus I asked the person if he was on some kind of network, in which he positive responded. It was at his work. So I thought; "See, the mods don't make mistakes in cases like this :) ". I answered that he was rejected from the UN for having more that one UN member with the same IP adress. The mod in question checked and proved me right, so I thought; "See, the mods are very accurate in this :) ", but now I was wrong for answering this case :( .
Right now I'm confused. Should I continue to help players, or should I admit of being a noob and stop answering questions in the moderator's forum? :?
I don't have the Getting help link for nothing in my sig, you know?
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People, please. My comments were only in reference to actions which a mods access to information is key, such as UN issues, or deletion issues. What we are trying to avoid is a bunch of people asking someone if they had done this or that to get deleted, when we can just go and find out directly why. We can get to more issues if we do not have to sift through 4 pages of posts to find the problem. We also try to avoid the "well, so and so said this and that" syndrome, where players get the idea that something is a "rule" when it really is not. We do not mind players helping people with everyday issues, but please, if you do not have access to the information, let those who do handle it.
Okay, thats fair enough. Its just that you seemed to imply that Corithe was decieving people into thinking she was a mod. Obviously the mods know more about why someone was deleted than players.

Corinthe, I know you mean well. Sometimes though, it's easier for us to address issues without having to read through everyone else's responses. We're not asking that you cease posting in this forum entirely. Rather, we'd like those threads that need specifically to be addressed by a Mod to not be posted in by other players.

Just because a Mod doesnt respond in public does not mean the issue was not addressed. Oft times issues are addressed from the getting help page and the thread not even posted in.

NuMetal, I apologize for your being caught in that generalization. My points were directed more towards Spoffin than towards yourself.
Sorry, which comments?
Bump this

<---------- Not Moderator! 8)

Corinthe, I know you mean well. Sometimes though, it's easier for us to address issues without having to read through everyone else's responses. We're not asking that you cease posting in this forum entirely. Rather, we'd like those threads that need specifically to be addressed by a Mod to not be posted in by other players.

Just because a Mod doesnt respond in public does not mean the issue was not addressed. Oft times issues are addressed from the getting help page and the thread not even posted in.

I looked every unanswered post up in modertor's forum. Í don't believe that you send them all a TG with their answers :P I even skipped some of the silly topics. Even a lock is a moderator's answer. I am sure that in Technical are at least the same number of unanswered questions.

I didn't jump into conclusions about UN multies, I just did let the guy answer his own question, and I gave him/her a decent answer in good faith with the moderator's decision that made him eject from the UN. I am very sure that mods know what they do, I only have doubts if they do enough.
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Check your telegrams, Spoffin. :wink:

Check your telegrams, Spoffin. :wink:
Edit: found it. Check for reply

Edit: and again.

Ok, sometimes other posts will only make helping more difficult. I can see that. So, what would be a constructive way of handling that problem?

1- Inform users what a good approach is to help out (like, IMHO, refering to stickes with links, the help page, maybe even straigthforward answering a question if the user is confident about being correct, or asking key questions in an attempt to gather more information so a Mod won't have to ask these.)

2- Berating users for attempting to help a fellow player.

I know *I* would pick #1 between these two. It's more work initially, but I think it's also more productive in the long run.

Ballotonia

We've done that before Ballotonia...

<----------- Not a moderator


Maybe the way to go is just quoting the FAQ when someone has a question. This way I'll never be accused of overstepping my boundaries. It is a very cold way to do, but what else is there?
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Maybe the way to go is just quoting the FAQ when someone has a question. This way I'll never be accused of overstepping my boundaries. It is a very cold way to do, but what else is there?

Well, there could be an amount of leeway allowed for players to help one another.

<----------- Not someone who would be mistaken for a moderator

We've done that before Ballotonia...

Well, I missed that completely then, as apparently did Corinthe. Do you have a link to the advice you gave priorly? It can be darn difficult to find stuff on this forum without any clue what one specifically is looking for.

Ballotonia

We've done that before Ballotonia...

Well, I missed that completely then, as apparently did Corinthe.
As did I

As did I

We are struck by lightning, but I guess we got the point now :)
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I am finding this thread most interesting. As the regional vp for the south pacific i feel it is part of my job to help the newer players out when they have questions. Indeed so do the rest of the cabinet there; we watch for spam, we help out with the usual round of new player questions. Would I be correct in reading (through this thread) that we should not be doing that at all?

I am finding this thread most interesting. As the regional vp for the south pacific i feel it is part of my job to help the newer players out when they have questions. Indeed so do the rest of the cabinet there; we watch for spam, we help out with the usual round of new player questions. Would I be correct in reading (through this thread) that we should not be doing that at all?


As I understand it,you can help out but make it clear you are not a moderator and try to stay away from the questions of "why was I deleted/ejected from the UN"


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uhh usually i just say nice things like 'let me know if you need any help - bistmath - vp the south pacific'

Helping out new players and answering general questions is welcomed. We are simply addressing those players that are asking for MODERATOR assistance - i.e. something only a Moderator can assist with, UN ejections/deletions/etc.

oh. okay good. I will keep the cabinet at it then.
thanks.

Helping out new players and answering general questions is welcomed. We are simply addressing those players that are asking for MODERATOR assistance - i.e. something only a Moderator can assist with, UN ejections/deletions/etc.

Which, I might add, should be reprted using the Getting Help Page.

Which, I might add, should be reprted using the Getting Help Page.

And I have it in my sig :P
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Which, I might add, should be reprted using the Getting Help Page.

And I have it in my sig :P
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Thats always how I find it, cos I can't remember where the official link is.

Which, I might add, should be reprted using the Getting Help Page.

And I have it in my sig :P
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Thats always how I find it, cos I can't remember where the official link is.


It's in the faq,I think they should put it on the sidebar really


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It's in the faq,I think they should put it on the sidebar really.

Imagine being a newbie. First you need to go to FAQ (You have no idea why), than go to technical (You wonder if your question: "Where am I", is technical, or just stupid), and there in the text somewhere is a link hidden, that says "Getting Help". You want to post your question there (Remember, you are still a newbie), but you have to find out what kind of question it is. After some while thinking, you decided that your question "Where am I" and why am I send to the Rejected Realms" is an "other" question. Okay, you post it there, and wait for your answer. The "getting Help" section is not particulary the fastest way to get answers. So you start spamming your question everywhere possible until one day you find out that your nation doesn't exist anymore. Thus brings us back to the beginning of this little story again, because you simply create another nation :P
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CorinThe
The getting help section! (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) (for all your gaming problems)http://www.nationstates.net/forum/templates/subSilver/images/whosonline.gif
The Free Pacific (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=the_free_pacific) (for The Pacific alternative.)

Um....is that still related to the other issue, or is that more in support of adding the link to the sidebar?

Cuz, I'm kinda confused...

Um....is that still related to the other issue, or is that more in support of adding the link to the sidebar?

Cuz, I'm kinda confused...

It's related to "Where is the getting help section" :lol:
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The getting help section! (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) (for all your gaming problems)http://www.nationstates.net/forum/templates/subSilver/images/whosonline.gif
The Free Pacific (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=the_free_pacific) (for The Pacific alternative.)

lol...OK. I agree, I dont often post the link since it's a pain to find it. It should be easier to find.

Check your telegrams Corinthe.

lol...OK. I agree, I dont often post the link since it's a pain to find it. It should be easier to find.

Check your telegrams Corinthe.

I did, and I decided not to anwer in the open, because of your pride :P
Or are you refering to a TG not from you? :?
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The getting help section! (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) (for all your gaming problems)http://www.nationstates.net/forum/templates/subSilver/images/whosonline.gif
The Free Pacific (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=the_free_pacific) (for The Pacific alternative.)

Ya know what Spoffin, by God, you're right. You should be a Moderator, you're so intelligent. Want my position? I'm getting quite fed up with people pushing questions that have already been answered by rephrasing the question.
Your sarcasm doesn't make you any more popular. i enjoy some well-placed sarcasm, but that is downright insulting. i just have to say that you don't seem very thankful for help, if you are a mod who wants to lower his workload. :roll:

Ahh, but see, it doesnt lower the workload. No matter what anyone asks or whatnot, the Mods still have to check it. Only, we also have to read through extra posts in the related thread.

Not to mention phantom rules showing up (similar to the 40% ejection cap rule that showed in The Pacific but had never been mentioned by a Mod...) that have to be discredited (not an easy task).


And, uh, I'm not in this for the popularity contest ;)

see, i made a nation like 2 days ago as a joke. parody of your name. status: DEAT. i sure hope it's not, because i hate you now :wink:

see, i made a nation like 2 days ago as a joke. parody of your name. status: DEAT. i sure hope it's not, because i hate you now :wink:Mod parodies get priority for deletion

i know. it's a stupid rule. :x

i know. it's a stupid rule. :xNot really a rule, technically.

it's a stupid philosiphy then :x

it's a stupid philosiphy then :xYes.

Someone made a puppet for greifing me, called "SpoffinIsANazi". Most of the mods thought there was nothing wrong with that. It took them about 4-5 days to kill it.

I used to act as if I had insider information (now that I know that the mods dislike it I will cut it out) and I did not always mention that the mods might beg to differ when I felt confident. I know that TOUSRS, Goobergunchia, Konania, and Peng-Pau often did the same, so the question is, why was only Corinthe warned? :?

There was no warning issued...just a request...and it was making it's rounds. Just hadnt gotten to anyone else yet.

it's a stupid philosiphy then :xYes.

Someone made a puppet for greifing me, called "SpoffinIsANazi". Most of the mods thought there was nothing wrong with that. It took them about 4-5 days to kill it.
they care when they're made fun of, but when the regular players are insulted, it's no big deal. Sputtered Neudniks, was a harmless joke. SpiffinIsANazi was an insult. they DEATed the joke within the day, but the insult took 4 times that. can you say "self-cented game mods"? :roll:

There was no warning issued...just a request...and it was making it's rounds. Just hadnt gotten to anyone else yet.


I guess it's a good thing I saw this thread then, I know I responded to questions of UN ejection before

Yep, sure are...wait...I didnt DEAT eithe...


Anyway, about the time that you created that puppet, Arribastan, there was another player creating similar puppets and attempting to wreak havoc, thus, yours was deleted due to the circumstances at the time (once again, I did not delete any of those nations)

ahh. then why was the origianal Sputtered Noodniks deleted? it was a while ago.

It was determined that such puppets could cause confusion. I know there was a puppet created named Neutred Sputniks that caused quite a bit of confusion.

I think there is a slight difference between
Neutered Sputniks" and "Sputtered Noodniks," though maybe people are stupider then i thought. :roll:

Um, Sheol (who was IP banned, a couple times) came back most recently as "Neo-Sheol"...so, yes...people are really that stupid...lol

ohh. i'm sorry to all the stupid people i've offended by assuming they are smarter than they are :lol:

How is this not flaming?

*Hijacks the thread for a few secs*

OK did Neut call you she or was it Corinthe he spoke of, i'm dying of curiosity :D

No, Neut is in fact unable to tell the difference between men and women.

I dunno, but I think my wife is glad I can tell the difference...


Anyway, lets drop it Manmen. I apologize for hijacking the thread earlier.

I dunno, but I think my wife is glad I can tell the difference...


Anyway, lets drop it Manmen. I apologize for hijacking the thread earlier.

You didn't, really. You laid the tracks upon which the train that was hijacked traveled, but you didn't do it yourself. On a side note, can someone ban Texa?