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I have a question about a symbol that I'd like to use on one of my puppet nations, but seeing how certian other symbols are banned....I thought it best to ask first.

http://transtopia.org/TOMOYESERPENT.jpg


It's a Tomoyeserpent a fusion of the Ouroboros and the Tomoye. This a a symbol I'd like to use on my puppet nation however I want to make sure that you guys won't delete my nation because you think it's a swastika or something.


http://transtopia.org/tomoye.gif

The Tomoye is a symbol from the Japanese Samurai heraldry and the ancient Japanese Shinto religion. The name translates into "revolution of the universe."

I doubt even the whiniest of the hyperactive patrolling players would mistake that for a swastika, and I imagine the mods would just roll their eyes if it was.

I can't see how anyone could mistake that for anything that's banned.

The only thing it shares with any of them is that it's "running" like a swastika, and I'm sure that can't be the reason the swastika's banned.

Triskeles and triskele-like objects have been deemed inofensive by the moderators several times - even those used by extreme right supremacist groups. The triskele also appears of the Isle Of Man flag which is one of the selections available from the default drop-down menu at nation creation.

Parra, that top image is nice, and could kinda be used for both your main nations as it covers your Asp too. .

lol , bad pun

Parra, that top image is nice, and could kinda be used for both your main nations as it covers your Asp too. .

lol , bad pun

Don't see why that'd be a problem.

I don't see that one being a problem. The trifoil 7 swastika is borderline, but the examples you give would be perfectly OK.

Tactical Grace
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I don't see that one being a problem. The trifoil 7 swastika is borderline, but the examples you give would be perfectly OK.

Tactical Grace
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Erm out of couriousity, what is a trifoil 7 swastika? (just a description please)

I think he meant triple 7... ;)

One of these:
http://balthazar.simpli.biz/~veratien/images/7triskele.jpg

Note that this is still a triskele, not a swastika. This particular triskele is used by some South African National Socialist groups.

I think he meant triple 7... ;)

One of these:
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ugSh_2vhSE4C:www.webcindario.com/euskalherria-ns/banderas/TRISKELE.GIF

Ah.

I see a lot of those. (And the other symbols stolen from pagans by neo-nazis too.)

Heh, I edited the image because technically the red circle is nothing to do with the triskele...

It's a rasist's flag, and it relates to this one:

http://www.flags-by-swi.com/fotw/images/za}bwb1.gif

Are you sure you want a rasist's flag for your nation? :?
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I have a question to the moderators:

Would this, the traditional Buddhist good luck symbol (swastika is sanskrit for "good luck", lit. "it is good") be allowed? Note it does include the four dots...

http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/6/6b/Swastika1.png

Personally, no, but on that one you've posted, if you rotate it 65 degrees anti-clockwise, it looks rather good...

http://balthazar.simpli.biz/~veratien/images/corinthetriskele.jpg

Well, some people like having racist flags because they are racists and it gives them a buzz. Generally, this is permitted so long as there is no swastika present. However, the example Peng-Pau posted is too obvious an attempt to bend the rules to be approved of. There is no ruling on it as yet, but I would not take kindly to any nation using a variaton of that one. But all other triskele symbols are perfectly OK, no need to worry.

Tactical Grace
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Another swastika thread :P
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Would this, the traditional Buddhist good luck symbol (swastika is sanskrit for "good luck", lit. "it is good") be allowed?
No, it's collateral damage, I'm afraid. The ban covers all four-legged swastikas irrespective of configuration.

Tactical Grace
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Would this, the traditional Buddhist good luck symbol (swastika is sanskrit for "good luck", lit. "it is good") be allowed?
No, it's collateral damage, I'm afraid. The ban covers all four-legged swastikas irrespective of configuration.

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Fair enough. It's just a shame that because of a few narrow minded individuals who mostly died at least 30 years ago the whole idea of the swastika has been tainted.

Fair enough. It's just a shame that because of a few narrow minded individuals who mostly died at least 30 years ago the whole idea of the swastika has been tainted.
Agreed, and on top of that they have to steal several others too including the mandala, and these two:

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It made my blood boil when I went to the ADL site and saw all of the pagan symbols that they had stolen including my favorite, the mandala. :evil: :x :evil:

http://www.abm.ndirect.co.uk/leftside/arty/stupa/mandala.gif
http://balthazar.simpli.biz/~veratien/images/weird_swastika.jpg
http://balthazar.simpli.biz/~veratien/images/weird_swastika2.jpg

These are all allowed, aren't they?

Yes, other wise I wouldn't have dared post the las two.

The first is a racist symbol? :shock:

Ask yourself, are those swastikas? Rule says; Swastikas are not allowed. Other decent flags are.
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Yes, the above three are allowed. In fact, the middle of the three looks a bit like UK Merchant Navy Officer shoulder flash insignia, though I will have to check that. The fact is, racist and white nationalist groups often did not have the imagination to come up with their own stuff, and borrowed ideas. I would not be surprised if a century from now, some group will have adopted the Playstation delta-OX-hollow square symbol. :roll:

Yes, the above three are allowed. In fact, the middle of the three looks a bit like UK Merchant Navy Officer shoulder flash insignia, though I will have to check that. The fact is, racist and white nationalist groups often did not have the imagination to come up with their own stuff, and borrowed ideas. I would not be surprised if a century from now, some group will have adopted the Playstation delta-OX-hollow square symbol. :roll:
Borrowed?

I'd say hijicaked is more like it.

Those symbols are now no longer useable for their intended purposes.

Especialy the mandala.

The mandala is my favorite ancient symbol and I'm furious at whatever white nationalist group it was that decided to use it.

Are Confederate flags allowed?

Are Confederate flags allowed?
Yes they are, Parratoga flew one for months


It says that pornographic flags are not allowed. Does it mean pornography (either nude or non nude) or all nudity?

I thought all pornography was nudity.

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I thought all pornography was nudity.

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Homophobia is so gay.
Letilan moths! Yay!
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I disagree. I think that a clothed but overtly sexual picture can be far more pornographic even than a full nude picture.

Would this, the traditional Buddhist good luck symbol (swastika is sanskrit for "good luck", lit. "it is good") be allowed?
No, it's collateral damage, I'm afraid. The ban covers all four-legged swastikas irrespective of configuration.

Tactical Grace
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Fair enough. It's just a shame that because of a few narrow minded individuals who mostly died at least 30 years ago the whole idea of the swastika has been tainted.
I agree completely - I might consider using a swastika otherwise, in association with its shamanist/pagan, Jain, Buddhist and Theosophical uses.

Yes, other wise I wouldn't have dared post the las two.

The first is a racist symbol? :shock:

It's a form of the mandala. ;)

The ADL forgets tomention that this was a hijacked pagan symbol:
http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/processed_new_images/celtic_cross.gif
A very pretty symbol, a sort of mandala, and it makes my blood boil that racists have twisted it like this. :x :evil:

Is the SS symbol banned, becuase I've seen a nation with it?

Is the SS symbol banned, becuase I've seen a nation with it?

No, just the swastika.