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i hope you can get this in time. there have been some _very_ offensive posts on the Pacific board.


The Pacific
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UN Delegate: The Dominion of Francos Spain.

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The Largest Soda Pop Sector in the Pacific

# Nation UN Category Motto
1. The Empire of Amor Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Intelligence Beyond the Gods"
2. The Fiefdom of Kirbonia Left-Leaning College State "Carpe diem."
3. The Holy Empire of Dragonion Moralistic Democracy "Non Sufficit Orbis"
4. The Empire of Iron Fist Iron Fist Consumerists "We are more than a tiny dot on the map.........."
5. The Borderlands of Saldean Corporate Police State "Anythings for sale at the right price"
6. The Dominion of Kaitenni Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Time is also a limited resource"
7. The Protectorate of Timbour Left-Leaning College State "Live and Let Live."
8. The Kingdom of Red Swingline Corporate Police State "Respect Is Everything"
9. The Dictatorship of Elbonia Iron Fist Consumerists "We kick you while you're down"
10. The Democratic States of The Higher Ground Capitalist Paradise "Well, it started out nice"
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3094. The Republic of Barthes Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "I show how mad reason itself is"

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The Pacific Civil Headquarters
Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.

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3 hours ago The Theocracy of Kampali Aha. Calling someone a brownnoser. The classic fallback defense, one that truly is extremely difficult to prove false. So I won't waste my breath on what you already deem to be fact.

And he said it was a stereotype, if you'd not been blinded by your urge to attack anyone who mentions the Dutch and anything else demeaning in the same sentence. That doesn't mean he believed it to be true. Perhaps, where he's from, it is indeed a stereotype (though, personally, I've not heard anything of the sort), so what would be wrong with what he said?

I'm a very apathetic person most of the time, but not when it comes to annoying idiots, spammers, and others who simply seek to cause trouble. With them, I'm all for showing them the door.
3 hours ago The Dictatorship of Kizmyaz Well just let me stay. Do not boot. People do not have to "spam". Although reacting to a messege is not considered as spam.

And if you read the message well your nose target is agreeing with the stereotype.
3 hours ago The Dictatorship of Kizmyaz Or let Sheep Boy react on his own. If he tells that he did not want to offend all Dutch I will rest my case and even call him Master Franco like you do
3 hours ago The Dominion of Dutch Dork-Patrol
Well that booting wasn’t classy Sheep Boy. Style, elegance and wit are not some of your villages qualities after all I presume?


And to east of Bob and all: Go pick that cotton Boy. Slaves thou art.



Greetings to Dolly and Molly.

On behalf of my friend Kizmyaz.

2 hours ago The Holy Empire of Yodastan G'day, I've just moved here, what are the chances of me getting booted out?

110 minutes ago The Republic of The MDDP well, seems to me that sheep boy doesn't have the guts to have a discussion, he rather bans people..
96 minutes ago The Kingdom of DrigenChar Message from Radio free Pacific;
Nations Francos of Spain and his lackeys do not deserve you endorsements. He takes your free speach away and will bann you for you speak out. Depose the tyrant! Free the Pacific!
Un-Endorse Francos of Spain.
84 minutes ago The Incorporated States of Heavyhanded dictators If your wanting to be ruled by a Heavy Handed Dictator Elect me at least I don't hide it like Francos.

Un-endorse the tyrant of the Pacific.
80 minutes ago The Republic of Jesse James II Nations of the Pacific the great plague of Francos of Spain has once again infected this mighty region.
Free yourselves of this dictator! Un-endorse Francos of Spain, InfernoIce and Poskrebyshev. Don't be ruled
by three petty dictators. If he is truely for the people why not give HIS people a chance for the UN
delegatecy. But true to his tyrantical ways he won't. Depose Francos!! Free the Pacific!
22 minutes ago The People's Republic of Wolf Allies ? *is lost and dazed* I just got da UN status thing but I will just be staying neutrual for some time till I know what is going on.... ?


slaves thou art? go pick some cotton? this is offensive. thanks for any help.

:roll:

Barthes, do you get off on reporting nations or something? Makes you feel big? :roll:

No insults in here.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

Barthes, do you get off on reporting nations or something? Makes you feel big? :roll:

I would have thought it obvious that Barthes is a puppet. :roll: just as you probably are.

Seriously though, that was some very offensive stuff. Was anything done about it?

Yes this is a puppet, but it was not used because I want to conceal my identity or something. So, especially for you:

My headnations are:

DRONRIJP, [EDIT]

DUTCH PIRATES, from the region of THE MIGHTY DUTCH DORK PATROL.

Drop by sometimes, we'll have a cup of tea together!

And by the way: The nation of The Dork Patrol is NOT one of my puppets (you can do an IP check). I am not defending my own 'spam' here.

here is the next installment.
sigh... will they never grow up?


The Pacific
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UN Delegate: The Dominion of Francos Spain.

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Today's United Nations Report
The Largest Soda Pop Sector in the Pacific

# Nation UN Category Motto
1. The Empire of Amor Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Intelligence Beyond the Gods"
2. The Fiefdom of Kirbonia Left-Leaning College State "Carpe diem."
3. The Holy Empire of Dragonion Moralistic Democracy "Non Sufficit Orbis"
4. The Empire of Iron Fist Iron Fist Consumerists "We are more than a tiny dot on the map.........."
5. The Borderlands of Saldean Corporate Police State "Anythings for sale at the right price"
6. The Dominion of Kaitenni Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Time is also a limited resource"
7. The Protectorate of Timbour Left-Leaning College State "Live and Let Live."
8. The Kingdom of Red Swingline Corporate Police State "Respect Is Everything"
9. The Dictatorship of Elbonia Iron Fist Consumerists "We kick you while you're down"
10. The Democratic States of The Higher Ground Capitalist Paradise "Well, it started out nice"
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3094. The Republic of Barthes Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "I show how mad reason itself is"

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The Pacific Civil Headquarters
Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.

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2 hours ago The Republic of Barthes Is that all you people talk about, the delegate?
118 minutes ago The Disputed Territories of Sneak Theif That seems to be all anyone wants to talk about, sad to say but it is the truth.

Wish someone would make things more interesting here for us, oh well I think I am going to step out and streach my legs a little today.
106 minutes ago The Rogue Nation of Lucoz Hi there,

What to come to a real region then come to "The Alliance of REAL DRINKERS"

We are a small group so far but with your help we could make it the best region in NationStates. All kinds of people are welcome and where you are not be ejected for you views on things.

It's really up to you but we do look forward to having you there.

Thank you for reading.

P.S this is not a spam this is a offer.
82 minutes ago The Most Serene Republic of Lombago Greetings,

We look forward to excellent diplomatic relations with all of our neighors. Have a nice day!
80 minutes ago The Empire of Emerald Ultras UNENDORSE F#&%RANCO!!! NOBODY FCUKS WITH FRANK DE GRAVE

DUTCH VIGILANTES
75 minutes ago The Constitutional Monarchy of HRH Queen Beatrix Want wat is sterven anders
Want wat is sterven anders dan naakt staan in de wind
en samensmelten met de zon?
En wat is ophouden met ademen anders
dan de adem bevrijden van zijn rusteloze eb en vloed,
opdat hij ombelemmerd oprijst en zich ontvouwt en op zoek gaat naar God?
Alleen wanneer je uit de rivier van stilte gedronken hebt, zul je waarlijk zingen.
En wanneer je de top van de berg bereikt hebt,
pas dan zul je beginnen met klimmen.
En wanneer de aarde je ledematen zal opeisen,
pas dan zul je werkelijk dansen.
68 minutes ago The Constitutional Monarchy of JP Balkenende Van tijd naar eeuwigheid


Dit alles schonkt ge mij. Wèl was het veel,
maar één verlangen zwelt nog naar mijn keel.
Voor alles dank ik u, wat ge me schonkt,
voor al de malen, dat ge mij toewonkt
in een gedachte, een glimlach, een lied.
Uw straling schonkt ge me, uw kern nog niet.
Eén gave onthield ge mij nog en ik derf
z’al nooder. Daarom vraag ik: eer ik sterf
geef me, al mocht het ook slechts éénmaal zijn,
mij te zonne’ in den glans van uw aanschijn.
Doorscheur’t gezicht eener alomme Tegenwoordigheid,
éénmaal voor mij ’t weefsel van ruimte en tijd.


Maar zoo ’k dit beleven niet waardig ben,
laat dan aan d’overzij der diepe wateren,
mijn wezen, als een pijl gericht,
toevliegen recht op uw Onmeetlijk Licht.

67 minutes ago The Constitutional Monarchy of JP Balkenende Well, report this Barthes!
58 minutes ago The Republic of Jesse James II Nations of the Pacific the great plague of Francos of Spain has once again infected this mighty region.
Free yourselves of this dictator! Un-endorse Francos of Spain, InfernoIce and Poskrebyshev. Don't be ruled
by three petty dictators. If he is truely for the people why not give HIS people a chance for the UN
delegatecy. But true to his tyrantical ways he won't. Depose Francos!! Free the Pacific!
Seconds ago The Republic of Barthes By swearing at me in a language i can't read? okay... wonder if one of the mods can get a translation....

The last thing you have quoted is not swearing my friend. That is just some nonsense poems, you can ask any Dutch guy you know.

You really are a trigger happy modbuddy aren't you?

I have nothing against you personally B, I just don't like the way some people (more and more actually) enjoy reporting other nations to the mods all to quickly for minor offenses. Here, in your last report, you don't even know what I was talking about!


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By the way: Let me stress that the region of Holland has absolutely nothing to do with all of this. We are acting in our own name, from our own region. I only mentioned the region Holland because you thought I was hiding behind a puppet. I will try to EDIT the region name out of my first post. Some of my regionmates hate to make enemies and are afraid our region image might suffer from this. And there is something to say for that argument. So once more, This has nothing to do with Holland!
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This should be reported through the getting help page.

This should be reported through the getting help page.

it was. this is just the evidence. which no one saw fit to confirm.

Ok, here's my take.

Barthes had every right to believe that JP's second installment was flaming him in a different language as JP's first post was flaming him. It's quite a logical assumption, however quickly Barthes jumped to it.


JP, quit flaming/trolling/flamebaiting - whatever you want to call it. Let bygones be bygones and simply return to your region, leaving Barthes alone.

Barthes, in fhe future it might be prudent to use an online translater before calling foul. It will likely save a good number of headaches down the road.


Neither of you two are to have any other interactions with each other - neither directly, nor through proxies, nor puppets. Either player in violation will be dealt with according to the circumstances.

That was a whole lot of text to read. There are no flames and curses in those lines. Just mindless poetry. JP Balkenende is not my fav RL politician, but I don't want to see him deleted for writing poetry. JP, can you contact me about these trollings in The Pacific?! I'm very curious about what you guys are up to.
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OK, Corinthe, will do.

NSputniks, I will not contact Barthes anymore (Can't say that for 100% though, Barthes is only a puppet and I don't know who his big nation is).

Discussion closed!?

It's not mindless poetry. They describe dying as a journey to, and re-unification with, God (in a Christian perspective).

Ballotonia

OK, discussion not closed apparently.

Of course they are about something. It was a matter of copy/paste from some strange site. I didn't even read the poems before I posted them.

To all:

After reading the above I made the choice of reacting on that what was brought up by some:
Since English is not my native language I excuse myself for any mistakes made in this statement

First a little explanation:

I was accused of Flaming or whatever you people call it by someone with the name of Barthess.

The “flaming” or whatever you label it was not an action on it selves but a re-action on some things said by the delegate of the pacific Francos Spain (Sheep Boy for all that know him well) and some of the people which vegetate in his region. Sheep Boy did made a statement that was very racist and offensive to the (real-life)nation, which was the subject of his remark.

I reacted to this hideous statement with a message on his board with a nation, which was a Pacific “native”. Normal response for any dictator was, and certainly that of Sheep Boy’s, was instant booting.

After that I got in again with a puppet and posted another message. Remind both statements where sharp but not offensive but invitations to Sheep Boy to discuss his statement. Again no reaction but instant booting on the second nation. At that time some of the nations which noses seem to always in a certain direction which I will not describe here, where making wise remarks at the whole procedure.

The remark to the two nations involved was an, for those who only read magazines which got pictures in it, literary allusion. One of our great writers from the past has made this statement about a certain state of mind on people whom are oppressed. In context it is one slave to another saying that they have to change their attitude to authority.

In that context it is not offensive at all but a call for mental independence. That some of the lesser educated ones think it is racist or whatever is pitiful but more their own responsibility to educate themselves.

And do not come running that Sheep Boy is offensive because the subject at hand made known to me to like his new name:


The Dominion of Francos SpainReceived: 1 day ago "Sheep boy." I like that one. Has a nice rustic feel to it. You know, out here in the boonies and all.

This is all I wish to say about it. I am however sorry that somehow the region of Holland is wrongly accused of being involved in this. I want to emphasize that this has nothing to do with the region of Holland.

okay, here's the story (or at least my part of the story)

someone posted some rules on the pacific's civil HQ, rules francos apparently made (i think most people have already seen those).
i used a puppet to move in the pacific, and commented on which of those rules i had already broken (for example, being a puppet of a banned nation, collecting endorsments).

francos responded on the board, calling the dutch criminals by nature, he also sent this telegram to my puppet:

The Dominion of Francos Spain
Received: 1 day ago Criminal by nature.

my guess is, he tried to lure me back in the pacific to post, so he could ban my puppet..
well, i did come back to answer, using a different puppet this time, i told him on the board we were only criminals in a dictators eye.
i think he didn't expect this, cause that puppet got this telegram:

The Dominion of Francos Spain
Received: 1 day ago Uh, I didn't respond to your telegram so you move here yet again with yet another nation and post your message on the Civil HQ? Sheesh, grow up.

i told my dutch friends about what he posted, i take it they didn't like it, and they took action against francos.

Ugh, I can't believe I'm wasting my time with this, but...

Sheep Boy did made a statement that was very racist and offensive to the (real-life)nation, which was the subject of his remark.

Uh, assuming you're referring to me, that is untrue, as we'll see...

I reacted to this hideous statement with a message on his board with a nation, which was a Pacific “native”. Normal response for any dictator was, and certainly that of Sheep Boy’s, was instant booting.

No, you moved in a puppet, posted, then left rapidly. Only on the third time that you came to the region were you cocky enough to stay for more than 30 seconds, which is when you were booted.

And do not come running that Sheep Boy is offensive because the subject at hand made known to me to like his new name:


The Dominion of Francos SpainReceived: 1 day ago "Sheep boy." I like that one. Has a nice rustic feel to it. You know, out here in the boonies and all.

That was sarcasm, obviously. One nation quite arbitrarily called me a hillbilly, or mountain boy, or something to that effect, and you came in and dubbed me "Sheep boy." I found it amusing because I'm actually closer to being from the city. I don't appreciate the nickname, but I have thick enough skin that I'm not going to be offended or report you for it.

someone posted some rules on the pacific's civil HQ, rules francos apparently made (i think most people have already seen those).

Not that it matters, but the Civil Code was drafted by the Senate and approved by me.

francos responded on the board, calling the dutch criminals by nature

You left out a very important part of that comment. After you came in, jocularly and derisively posted about all the rules you violated, and left, I wrote, "You are just reinforcing the stereotype of Dutch being criminal by nature."

I said it was a stereotype, not that I agreed or disagreed, but that you were reinforcing it. Maybe the problem lay in the language barrier, but you should still make sure you have your facts in order before levying the heavy charge of calling me (or "telling your friends" that I am) a racist.

No, you moved in a puppet, posted, then left rapidly. Only on the third time that you came to the region were you cocky enough to stay for more than 30 seconds, which is when you were booted.

The second puppet was cocky enough. The first one that was booted was "-404_error-" which was since it's first day in the Pacific. So he was native and he made the first comment on your statement.


And about the Sheep Boy. You did send the TM that you liked it. Now you say you do not like the knickname. Perhaps you should start saying what you mean. It beats booting by the way if you just "discuss" issues with people. If you convince them there is more satisfaction than the more "autistic" approach you are conducting right now.

Just to see what you can accomplish with talking to one another I will respect your wish and not call you by your nickname again.

What does "jocularly and derisively" mean? Sorry I don't have a dictionary. :D (No, really, I can't find it!)

And Francos, if you "can't believe why you are wasting your time with this", then don't post. Don't act like we are the idiots here who are prolonging this discussion while you are doing the same thing.

What does "jocularly and derisively" mean? Sorry I don't have a dictionary. :D (No, really, I can't find it!)

Jocularly and derisively = flippantly and disparagingly.

And I wrote that this was a waste of time because the original subject of this thread was frivolous to begin with and it has gradually transformed into an irrevant thread to criticize me.

(And I'm pretty sure that Crazy girl has posted every single telegram I've ever sent her onto this forum without exception, no matter how negligible.)

Jocularly and derisively = flippantly and disparagingly.

I don't want to come over like a complete dickhead and I know it is completely offtopic but....Flippantly and disparablablabla?????? What's that?!

Man, this is just as hard for me to translate as those Dutch poems I posted must have been for you!

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I know the discussion in this thread is not really worth continuing, but hey, I didn't start it!

Both of you knock it off, seperate, and keep yourselves apart.

franky, i never called you a racist, al i did was copy and paste your message, and asked if we had to take this, and i haven't posted all your telegrams to me on this forum, just the relevant ones.

en voor JP: http://dictionaries.travlang.com/EnglishDutch/

das altijd makkelijk ;)

Both of you knock it off, seperate, and keep yourselves apart.

Another relationship on the virge of taking off shattered. "Ah young love, how fragile".

Look at the above Francos of Spain. That is sarcastic. Little poetic too but my point is that if you want to be cynical or sarcastic you better be sure the adressed person knows one is trying too.

And I called your remark racist. The sheer fact that you bring up such a statement in that situation assumes and implies you agree with it. You have left it out in the open so I reacted on that assumption. Still haven't heard you saying that you do not agree with the statement about all Dutch. So is stil think my assumption is right.

oops, i see i posted my message with my puppet ;)

sorry bout that.

Everyone either knocks it off, or I get "DEAT-Happy", kapesh?