Griefing in Spratly
Go look up Kengsai, and check its IP with those of nations in Paripana (ones I suspect who did it) and warn/DEAT both accordingly. While your at it could you check and see if any nations in Spratly have the same IP as any in Paripana? Thx
EmpTim
Use
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Please.
Edit: and you shouldn't publicly accuse nations!
I see Corinthe doing things like this. Besides its my region.
Tactical Grace
12-10-2003, 01:17
He is right, when will people start reading the stickies and announcements? This forum is mainly intended for Forum issues. If you wish to report Multis, that is a Game issue, and necessitates the use of the Getting Help page:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help
Tactical Grace
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Tactical Grace
12-10-2003, 01:20
I see Corinthe doing things like this. Besides its my region.
Corinthe is uniquely useful as she goes into a lot more detail, and has proven to be accurate several times. Her activity here, although not strictly speaking in line with the intended purpose of this Forum, is tolerated, and indeed appreciated. But this is not the place for any player to report potential UN Multis.
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Kandarin
12-10-2003, 01:29
In any case, this is a spamming case, not griefing. I already filed a report on it yesterday.
Kandarin
12-10-2003, 01:35
Yes.
Also, you're requesting an IP scan on two regions. This isn't an easy thing for the mods to do, and shouldn't be asked for unless you can provide some good evidence for why it is required.
The reason why, is that nations in Paripana have, for the past few months, been hiding their puppets in my region for the purpose of spying on and invading me. I need to know who is at fault. I also need to know who is behind Kengsai, so I can execute my foundal powers by declaring war on their owner, with a true casus belli.
Kandarin
12-10-2003, 01:40
The reason why, is that nations in Paripana have, for the past few months, been hiding their puppets in my region for the purpose of spying on and invading me. I need to know who is at fault. I also need to know who is behind Kengsai, so I can execute my foundal powers by declaring war on their owner, with a true casus belli.
That doesn't indicate any link between Kengsai and Paripana.
The reason why, is that nations in Paripana have, for the past few months, been hiding their puppets in my region for the purpose of spying on and invading me. I need to know who is at fault. I also need to know who is behind Kengsai, so I can execute my foundal powers by declaring war on their owner, with a true casus belli.
How did you know that they have been hiding puppets in your region in the first place? Any proof?
And using OOC infomation for IC puproses is a good excuse for an ignore, you know.
Any proof? Certain, they have said so themselves.
Kandarin, I have this suspicion. They would sort of have a reason too, because they hate me. No one else would, i think...?
Any proof? Certain, they have said so themselves.
Any proof on whether they actually admitted it or not?
Yes, in the htread where uncle crac declared war on me.
Peng-Pau
12-10-2003, 01:55
Yes.
Also, you're requesting an IP scan on two regions. This isn't an easy thing for the mods to do, and shouldn't be asked for unless you can provide some good evidence for why it is required.
Actually...
It is.
Kandarin
12-10-2003, 01:56
Where is this thread?
Kandarin
12-10-2003, 01:57
Yes.
Also, you're requesting an IP scan on two regions. This isn't an easy thing for the mods to do, and shouldn't be asked for unless you can provide some good evidence for why it is required.
Actually...
It is.
Look at the last post in the following. Although it speaks of UN sweeps and not IP scans, comparing the IPs of everyone in one region to everyone in another region must be time-consuming.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51584
Tactical Grace
12-10-2003, 01:58
I'm sure I read somewhere recently that we generally do not perform IP scans on entire regions on request, unless the circumstances are judged to be exceptional. I might be wrong, however. The procedures are scattered all over the place. Hmm, I need to make a clipboard . . . I will seek clarification.
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Lemme see...
It was a rotten RP on my part. But here it is
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64673&start=0
As you see Ilevaicam, Dextremmika had been used as bases to attack me
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78772&start=0
Also this
Also a bunch of off site threads, that I can't access anymore because they booted me out of paripana
Tactical Grace
12-10-2003, 01:59
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51584
Ah yes, that's the one. Cheers!
Kandarin
12-10-2003, 02:02
Lemme see...
It was a rotten RP on my part. But here it is
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64673&start=0
As you see Ilevaicam, Dextremmika had been used as bases to attack me
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78772&start=0
Also this
Also a bunch of off site threads, that I can't access anymore because they booted me out of paripana
Those forum links have no reference to Kengsai or Spratly.
What's their forum's address? I can access it for you and copy any genuine incriminating info to this one.
Peng-Pau
12-10-2003, 02:04
Yes.
Also, you're requesting an IP scan on two regions. This isn't an easy thing for the mods to do, and shouldn't be asked for unless you can provide some good evidence for why it is required.
Actually...
It is.
Look at the last post in the following. Although it speaks of UN sweeps and not IP scans, comparing the IPs of everyone in one region to everyone in another region must be time-consuming.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51584
Yes, but performing an IP check on a nation is a piece of pee. It's comparing them that takes time, because it involves a lot of flitting between pages.
Check the Spratly Region. You'll see the spamming. I may be wrong about Kengsai being ap uppet a member of Paripana, but I'm suspicious.
Tactical Grace
12-10-2003, 02:08
In the region Spratly, the Regional Happenings ticker has been spammed:
[code:1:f556aa0a56]
Regional Happenings
18 hours ago: The Nomadic Peoples of Wakizashi arrived from The East Pacific.
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai departed this region for Northwesteren Paradise
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai arrived from Northwesteren Paradise.
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai departed this region for Northwesteren Paradise
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai arrived from Northwesteren Paradise.
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai departed this region for Northwesteren Paradise
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai arrived from Northwesteren Paradise.
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai departed this region for Northwesteren Paradise
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai arrived from Northwesteren Paradise.
21 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Kengsai departed this region for Northwesteren Paradise
[/code:1:f556aa0a56]
This is a deletable offence. Please report it using the Getting Help page:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
He also said "I flodded Spratly" both in Spratly and NWP.
I have filed the help request.
I have noted the actions of Kengsai in my region and he has been booted. I am Requesting of Kengsai a very sincere apology on behalf of Spratly.
Oops. I can't do that. I'm verry sorry for flooding spratly, But I wanted to cover up my new hiding place to avoid a short and brutal (For Wakizashi) war. I cannot speak for kengsai, But he will be booted from my region as well.
Uh huh.
"n00b + spammer + godmodder = ignore"
in the words of...me
Hay! Whattabout me?
I flodded Spratly.
That guy is looking for a DEAT, and I would be glad if someone gave it to him.
Stephistan
15-10-2003, 02:36
The point here is this... These are Game Mod issues.. that is what the "getting help" page is for. We are Forum mods..and therefore are not really in a position to answer these questions. This section is suppose to be for moderating the forum.. if you have game issues.. take it to the proper place. This isn't it!
Thank You
Stephanie
Forum Mod
I see Corinthe doing things like this. Besides its my region.
Corinthe is uniquely useful as she goes into a lot more detail, and has proven to be accurate several times. Her activity here, although not strictly speaking in line with the intended purpose of this Forum, is tolerated, and indeed appreciated. But this is not the place for any player to report potential UN Multis.
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
I don't like to be "tolerated" Actually my postings here are a sort of "panic button". I only report regions that are about to be destroyed by the update of the server, because the griefers left the place pasworded, so the natives can't return. You may look back in forum history, I never report any takeovers or stuff, that can easily be reported by the natives, since the region still exist.
In short; I only report incidents that are griefing beyond and doubt, and need mod attention fast, preferably the same day.
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Tactical Grace
15-10-2003, 21:38
Relax, Corinthe, I meant no disrespect. I think you are performing a useful function, actually. :)
Thing is, players less familiar with this place might be getting the wrong idea, and I wanted to emphasize that you are an exception. Sorry if I got it wrong. Once again, [appreciation].
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Thing is, players less familiar with this place might be getting the wrong idea, and I wanted to emphasize that you are an exception. Sorry if I got it wrong. Once again, [appreciation].
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Okay, I understand 8)
I only wished that my posts could be smaller without tampering on the evidence. I could use some hints in how to report without filling the complete screen. It's not the work, but I understand why huge pages shouldn't be displayed here.
Btw, I'm sorry if my blabbermouthing puppet GodZillah comes reporting here ocasionally. I have strictly forbidden him to do that, but the lizzard doesn't respect me :wink:
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Ballotonia
15-10-2003, 23:27
I only wished that my posts could be smaller without tampering on the evidence. I could use some hints in how to report without filling the complete screen. It's not the work, but I understand why huge pages shouldn't be displayed here.
Since you ask...
Use the [quote]-tag instead of the [code] tag. It's a tad smaller print and reads better because of the different font.
Something I've already seen you do on occasion: leave out the messageboard if it has no info related to the griefing, like when it's old.
Ballotonia
Tactical Grace
16-10-2003, 00:19
Interesting thing has come up. Griefers might be using this forum to check whether their actions have been noticed. Maybe the Getting Help page really is a better idea? Would the region snapshot fit?
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Neutered Sputniks
16-10-2003, 00:31
Generally speaking, we can do a multi scan of a region fairly easily (depending on region size. However, this is done only when an experienced GM finds there to be sufficient evidence of multying.
Corinthe's posts are not endorsed by the Moderators, and it is actually preferred that she adhere to her own sig line and use the getting help page as opposed to posting here in the forums.
Interesting thing has come up. Griefers might be using this forum to check whether their actions have been noticed. Maybe the Getting Help page really is a better idea? Would the region snapshot fit?
Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
It was fun while it lasted. I have decided not to post this much about grievings in the Getting Help section, since I expect many people to do, and you would get many messages of only one griefing. It's better if natives report their own grieving, as I will do when it happens to me. Gotta find myself another occupation now :(
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Tactical Grace
16-10-2003, 03:08
No worries, you were timely and thorough. :) Only it really is best left to the natives. Have fun with your region.
Neutered Sputniks
16-10-2003, 03:22
Corinthe, we appreciate the wealth of information you provide. Perhaps you could post a note in the Getting Help page and then I could contact you when we get to that specific tasking and ask you to email me screenshots...
We're not too keen on tipping off those breaking the rules by posting it in the public forums that they're under suspicion.
Fyreheart
16-10-2003, 04:27
Corinthe, we appreciate the wealth of information you provide. Perhaps you could post a note in the Getting Help page and then I could contact you when we get to that specific tasking and ask you to email me screenshots...
We're not too keen on tipping off those breaking the rules by posting it in the public forums that they're under suspicion.
I'm confused. Wouldn't they have already performed the griefing? What could they possibly do even if they did know?
Corinthe, we appreciate the wealth of information you provide. Perhaps you could post a note in the Getting Help page and then I could contact you when we get to that specific tasking and ask you to email me screenshots...
We're not too keen on tipping off those breaking the rules by posting it in the public forums that they're under suspicion.
Yeah, we can't them get away with griefing so I'm your girl. No matter what my feelings are about you, you're still the biggest enemy of those griefers. And the enemy of of my enemy (Griefing losers) is still my friend. :wink: Now I can check you on your response time :lol: :lol:
Corinthe, we appreciate the wealth of information you provide. Perhaps you could post a note in the Getting Help page and then I could contact you when we get to that specific tasking and ask you to email me screenshots...
We're not too keen on tipping off those breaking the rules by posting it in the public forums that they're under suspicion.
I'm confused. Wouldn't they have already performed the griefing? What could they possibly do even if they did know?
Knowing that they have been reported could make them go rampage, while thinking that they got away might make them sit back and relax. If a person knows he's gonna be deleted, he has nothing more to lose, right?
I'm glad when this ThanksGiving thing is over. 75% of the time I can't get into the forum, and the game is awfully sluggish :cry:
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Do I have to post it under "Cheating", or under "Other"?
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Cogitation
16-10-2003, 15:23
Do I have to post it under "Cheating", or under "Other"?
You refer so many people to the Getting Help page and you don't know how to use it? For shame! :P :lol:
Seriously, though, "Cheating" sounds like the best category.
--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
You refer so many people to the Getting Help page and you don't know how to use it? For shame! :P :lol:
Seriously, though, "Cheating" sounds like the best category.
--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Lol, I rarely needed help. I always know how to deal with my own problems. 8)
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