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I'd like to know why Who Gives a Damn and one other nation were deleted from National Socialist Europe yesterday. I've asked via the "Getting Help" page already, and would like to know. Why were we mod-bombed?

Did you have...

More than one UN nation

Swastika flags

offensive mottos or national animals

??

That was my only UN nation, and I had no offensive material (they'd been stripped from me some time ago). I know the grounds for deletion, and I was not in violation of any, which is why I ask.

Who Gives A Damn is an old, old nation. I know it from back in the day.

Were you given any warnings? If so, what for? If not, why do you suspect you were deleted?

I am sure a mod/s can answer this Q for you.

No warnings, not a word. I logged on yesterday, and my nation no longer existed. I'd been fairly inactive out of my region lately, so I have no guesses as to why.

I'm hoping the mods will get to this.

There were a small number of nations reported for having offensive flags/national animals/mottos. Two of them had tags on their info indicating they had been warned once already. The standard procedure in those cases is deletion, given the one-strike way we're told to run things by.

There were a small number of nations reported for having offensive flags/national animals/mottos. Two of them had tags on their info indicating they had been warned once already. The standard procedure in those cases is deletion, given the one-strike way we're told to run things by.

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago. I had nothing offensive whatsoever. I know because I tended to leave them to what they were reset to, as I didn't want to bother changing such minor details.

Thank you for your response, but I don't see how this would apply to my nation.

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago.

What flag did you have then? Something must've triggered this, I think.

Ballotonia

My traditional swastika was long ago replaced with the flag of Tomania, from The Great Dictator, which I selected for its similarity to the traditional swastika. There's a version of it here (http://images.flagspot.net/f/fic-gdt.gif).

My traditional swastika was long ago replaced with the flag of Tomania, from The Great Dictator, which I selected for its similarity to the traditional swastika. There's a version of it here (http://images.flagspot.net/f/fic-gdt.gif).

I can testify.

There were a small number of nations reported for having offensive flags/national animals/mottos. Two of them had tags on their info indicating they had been warned once already. The standard procedure in those cases is deletion, given the one-strike way we're told to run things by.

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago. I had nothing offensive whatsoever. I know because I tended to leave them to what they were reset to, as I didn't want to bother changing such minor details.

Thank you for your response, but I don't see how this would apply to my nation.

I am as far from a defender of WGAD as you will find. I don’t want to give too much food for fodder to my enemies, but I will openly say I have been in opposition to the foul beliefs, and thus the nation of WGAD. In fact, I raided one of his regions 2 or 3 times (fun every time). But it is fair to ask why one is deleted, despite the political make-up.

Reploid, are you able to look into anything else about this?

I'd appreciate a more specific answer from ANY mod. If the mods do keep track of who does what, then someone should be able to look back and say what happened.

I can confirm the fact that he did not have a swastika in his flag. But then again i can also confirm that I did not have multi's but no one seems to give a rats booty about my word

Ahhh don't mind me I'm just in a bad mood and sick of seeing the mods who DEATed people not answering why.

Well, I think they are busy tonight, and last night, but I do hope you get a response by forum or by TM or email, you deserve that much. I feel comfortable it is not because your poltical make up, tho would guess you might have crossed the racist line somewhere... it's a hard line to walk on and stay on the right side of the game rules.

And I guess they might have been either busy all day today, or have e-mailed you privately?

No - no private TM, nothing. I've asked through "Getting Help" and the Moderation forum, and I still have no solid answers after 6 days.

I have a question pertaining to deletion, How long can you leave your account idle or not log into it without it being shutdown?

To the FAQ with you.

I am curious about this one because WGAD was here for so long. A bit daft ont he whole love the brotherhood of man stuff, you know with his whole the white race reigns supreme stuff, still could be a nice guy at times. Of course, didn't you harrass Parratoga one time? Could this have been the cause?

I am curious about this one because WGAD was here for so long. A bit daft ont he whole love the brotherhood of man stuff, you know with his whole the white race reigns supreme stuff, still could be a nice guy at times. Of course, didn't you harrass Parratoga one time? Could this have been the cause?

That was a long time ago Ack, it would imply a very large stack of reports in the getting help section if it was a result of that.

Yes it has been a long time since this happens. While not singular, it is odd to have a week without an offical mod response to this. Not saying they need to make a habit of responing wihtina week, just that they gen. do.

But the mods have responded.
There were a small number of nations reported for having offensive flags/national animals/mottos. Two of them had tags on their info indicating they had been warned once already. The standard procedure in those cases is deletion, given the one-strike way we're told to run things by.

Ahh, but you forget:

There were a small number of nations reported for having offensive flags/national animals/mottos. Two of them had tags on their info indicating they had been warned once already. The standard procedure in those cases is deletion, given the one-strike way we're told to run things by.

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago. I had nothing offensive whatsoever. I know because I tended to leave them to what they were reset to, as I didn't want to bother changing such minor details.

Thank you for your response, but I don't see how this would apply to my nation.


If this is not the whole truth, I would expect a mod to say such. Not critisizng, just saying.

But the mods have responded.
There were a small number of nations reported for having offensive flags/national animals/mottos. Two of them had tags on their info indicating they had been warned once already. The standard procedure in those cases is deletion, given the one-strike way we're told to run things by.

Yes, and I thanked Reprod for that. But it didn't answer my question. See below.

Ahh, but you forget:

There were a small number of nations reported for having offensive flags/national animals/mottos. Two of them had tags on their info indicating they had been warned once already. The standard procedure in those cases is deletion, given the one-strike way we're told to run things by.

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago. I had nothing offensive whatsoever. I know because I tended to leave them to what they were reset to, as I didn't want to bother changing such minor details.

Thank you for your response, but I don't see how this would apply to my nation.


If this is not the whole truth, I would expect a mod to say such. Not critisizng, just saying.

Yes, this would be all well and good if I still had any objectionable material. But I didn't for months before the deletion, so what I want to know is, why the sudden deletion? This is my question, and there has been no specific answer.

If I can be candid, I find this nation to be disgusting.


But look around, for the tineist question nations get responses on these forums. Players I have never heard of get an answer how they objected this rule or the other.

I ASK ALL VET NATIONS to re-read this thread. Doesn't it seem odd to have this much of an absence of answer. The best there is a mod saying what they think could have happened.


Is it odd no mod has an explination as to why they deeted this nation?

Be disgusted all you like, but we both agree that there's something very wrong here...

Then again when I made a valid point in the deletion of Nazi Europes many UN members the thread suddenly died. I've also noticed the nations you have never heard of get responses but all the vet nations get jack didly squat. Well of course except for the "Many nations were reported havign offensive flags blah blah blah" did he ever say that was why WGAD was DEATed?

Whatever though because if someone steps up to the mods then they're either deleted or shunned by nations sucking up to the mods.

FYI:National Socialist Europe was Nazi Europe. I was like 2nd member in their and saw it go over 100 members so if anyone says "You don't have any experience in NSE" stuff it!

If I get warned/deleted for this we know my point was right.


EDIT:Heres one of the threads......
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56717&highlight=
and
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57088&highlight=

I in no way intend offend the mods here, but if I can make an observant question…

Does 11 days with only a guess why this nation was deleted mean that the mods have no idea why he/she was deleted?

How it seems thus far. Perhaps, the question you should ask As.s, is who deleted you? I am not saying there is a conspiracy, I just know that this issues was broached a long time ago.

I found it odd that sometimes mods did not know what others mods have done, and it seemed odd. We, as a community, all talked about the type of system that would be best to make sure when a mod checked on that the others knew of official actions.

Anyway, it was said that the current system the mods have is the best, and that they do have a system of seeing other mod actions. My question is simply, if this really does exist, how come know one seems to know why it was deleted?

Just Q,

~Ack

Actually, I was too lazy to bother.

But, to end this, I went and ressurected Who Gives A Damn and took a look. Well, there was a warning about an inappropriate animal, which means it had already been changed once by a Mod.

I scroll down to look at the current animal, and lo! It was inappropriate. Surprize, surprize, a nation ignores Moderator action and gets deleted.

I swear, if people would quit spending so much time trying to be martyrs, and just play the game properly, life would be a lot easier, and happier.

Agreed.

Thanks for looking into it TMGH.

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago. I had nothing offensive whatsoever. I know because I tended to leave them to what they were reset to, as I didn't want to bother changing such minor details.

Thank you for your response, but I don't see how this would apply to my nation.

He claims to have left the animal at whatever the mods changed it too. I guess we wait to hear from AS.

/shrug

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago. I had nothing offensive whatsoever. I know because I tended to leave them to what they were reset to, as I didn't want to bother changing such minor details.

Thank you for your response, but I don't see how this would apply to my nation.

He claims to have left the animal at whatever the mods changed it too. I guess we wait to hear from AS.

/shrug

I doubt the Mods changed it to "untermensch"

Untermensch? lol. I used to have it Unterrasse. But then I had UnterraBe so noone knew :P

If "untermensch" as a term is deletion-worthy (I don't see how, in that it targets no group of people *specifically*), then quite frankly I have nothing more to say on the matter, except that Nationstaters, I hope you like your oatmeal plain!

I had replaced my flag, and mods had replaced everything else, weeks if not months ago. I had nothing offensive whatsoever. I know because I tended to leave them to what they were reset to, as I didn't want to bother changing such minor details.

Thank you for your response, but I don't see how this would apply to my nation.

He claims to have left the animal at whatever the mods changed it too. I guess we wait to hear from AS.

/shrug


I doubt the Mods changed it to "untermensch"

Call me uninformed, but I'm not really up on my "nazispeak". What does that mean?



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unthermensch = inferior human.
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Not right now, but I'll keep you in mind.



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So tell me, mods, how does "untermensch" qualify as a violation of the rules? It offends no group of people, as there is no group specified. No real life human is targetted by this item used in one's "national animal" slot. So how does this violate a rule?

BUMPed for [violet].

So tell me, mods, how does "untermensch" qualify as a violation of the rules? It offends no group of people, as there is no group specified. No real life human is targetted by this item used in one's "national animal" slot. So how does this violate a rule?

Does this term serve any purpose then that of a racist slander? Is it used commonly, or just by racists? I don't know the word, that I know of.

So tell me, mods, how does "untermensch" qualify as a violation of the rules? It offends no group of people, as there is no group specified. No real life human is targetted by this item used in one's "national animal" slot. So how does this violate a rule?
Context, interpretation, etc. Our call, deal with it. Locking.

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